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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2005.07.04 04:23:00 -
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When you have a small ship orbiting certain other ships, that other ship starts to wobble around. This perturbs the warp drive, and the ship is unable to warp.
So the net result is you can be prevented from warping without your enemy having a warp disruptor/scrambler.
So when I compare my Mammoth to my Prowler, they both have +4 warp core stability. But the mammoth is so dang big and long that it can be easily perturbed. (I havent had anyone do that to my Prowler yet.) So this begs the question; The Mastodon is quite tough and hauls quite a bit and also hold +4 WCS strength, BUT its long and slow to warp like the mammoth. So is the Mastodon going to be easily perturbed like the mammoth?
Honestly, a 1MKg interceptor should not cause a 10MKg hauler, and certainly not a 20MKg one. Can we just fix this so it does not happen, or make sure it dont happen to the super expensive haulers. If not this is going to be a racial penalty because Amarr have nice small package haulers.
Any ideas on this?
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Felsin
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Posted - 2005.07.04 06:49:00 -
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When Im flying my hauler around (which I do everyday), I notice this alot too. Usually when my structural refabricator starts to make my signature radius resistance lower I see this wobble effect. I researched a bit and figured out that the camera drone felt the fabric ripple as well causing a slight disruptance in my area readjustment module or better known as a video camera.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.07.04 07:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Imhotep Khem
Honestly, a 1MKg interceptor should not cause a 10MKg hauler, and certainly not a 20MKg one.
Err, a 1mkg interceptor hitting you at 2km/s is going to produce a lot more force then 10mkg.
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Chuck Sausage
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Posted - 2005.07.04 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Imhotep Khem
Honestly, a 1MKg interceptor should not cause a 10MKg hauler, and certainly not a 20MKg one.
Err, a 1mkg interceptor hitting you at 2km/s is going to produce a lot more force then 10mkg.
Force isn't measured in kg 
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Nanus Parkite
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Posted - 2005.07.04 09:32:00 -
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Inty and hauler at 90 degrees:
Inty travelling 4km/s weighs 1Mkg
Hauler travelling 100m/s weighs 10Mkg
Inty momentum = 4,000*1,000=4,000,000 Ns
Hauler momentum = 100*10,000=1,000,000 Ns
But as the inty will most likely bounce back in the opposite direction we have to double its momentum figure to account for the change in direction.
Then tan^-1 8/1 = 82.9 degrees
So using a very rough physical model we can see that the hauler would get pushed well off its course.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.07.04 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Chuck Sausage
Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Imhotep Khem
Honestly, a 1MKg interceptor should not cause a 10MKg hauler, and certainly not a 20MKg one.
Err, a 1mkg interceptor hitting you at 2km/s is going to produce a lot more force then 10mkg.
Force isn't measured in kg
Yeah. And EVE also doesn't have anything approaching real physics. I would kill just to have the stupid planets orbit.
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Vathar
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Posted - 2005.07.04 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Nanus Parkite
Inty and hauler at 90 degrees:
Inty travelling 4km/s weighs 1Mkg
Hauler travelling 100m/s weighs 10Mkg
Inty momentum = 4,000*1,000=4,000,000 Ns
Hauler momentum = 100*10,000=1,000,000 Ns
But as the inty will most likely bounce back in the opposite direction we have to double its momentum figure to account for the change in direction.
Then tan^-1 8/1 = 82.9 degrees
So using a very rough physical model we can see that the hauler would get pushed well off its course.
Yeah, but we also hav to take into account that a frontal collision with a huge object when you're going 4km/s in a flying nutshell could cause some damage ...
I once got bumped by a Battleship leaving warp just on top of me and bounced across the system at 11000km/s ... took me some time just to decelerate and stop ... Hopefullt, EVE does not have any form of collision damage implemented, otherwise, I woudl have been toast ...
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2005.07.12 01:20:00 -
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The main issue is buyin an 80M isk Mastodon and loosing it to an 11M isk interceptor. Prowler gets to warp fast enough, so im cool with it. But Mastodon I need for the 5000m3 cargo space to move some of the larger POS parts, but it don't get to warp fast enough to not get manually disrupted.
Whats all the isk for then?
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2005.07.12 01:38:00 -
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Doesnt the mastadon get a bonus to resistancs, and rep modules?
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2005.07.12 01:51:00 -
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Man, no one gives a **** about the real world calculations. Since when has Eve had anything to do with real world physics? All the poor guy was saying was that it's stupid that Minmatar industrials are so easy to bump compared to Amarr ones.
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Creed74
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Posted - 2005.07.27 13:04:00 -
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This needs to be fixed, I was looking at getting one, but now not sure if it's worth the 80mil!
Also Can you get them cheaper than that now??
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