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Bronya Boga Semper Ubi Sub Ubi 77	Posted - 2013.01.24 05:56:00 - [1] - Quote Alright gents and ladies I was hoping I wouldn't have to do this but I would like to get this rolling before its too late. I invite everyone that wishes to run for CSM8 to post in here. We need to create a list of candidates to have ready incase CCP changes the voting system, or have a list to run primaries off of so we can get representation through the current system. I will try to maintain this list updated and Down The Pipe will do short 15-30 minute interviews with each candidate and post them here. Once we get a few more candidates on the list we will do debates which I think will be an hour long I think(still thinking about it) You dont have to start a thread for you candidacy (like Cipreh has) you can just post a reply in here. Obviously make it a proper announcement as I will be linking those for people to read. List of announced candidates: Cipreh Thanks for reading, Bronya Host of podcast Down The Pipe www.downthepipe-wh.com Podcast Public Channel is DTP Podcast @drverikan on twitter [email protected]
Klarion Sythis Bite Me inc Bitten. 123	Posted - 2013.01.24 06:42:00 - [2] - Quote Two step wrote: Klarion Sythis wrote: Cipreh has a point regarding a lack of information on the primaries. That's how I'd prefer to vote, but I haven't seen any solid information on it yet. Is it still just an idea or is someone actually making it happen? I am working on it, but if you read the minutes, CCP may be changing the voting system which would make a primary unneeded. I am trying to get confirmation from them, which should be this week (hopefully) that the changes will happen. If not, I am planning on running a primary. FYI I'm all for someone getting the ball rolling on this as long as people aren't stepping on each other to be the one to do it.
Bronya Boga Semper Ubi Sub Ubi 78	Posted - 2013.01.24 11:32:00 - [3] - Quote totaly missed that, either way worst case we have a list already going Host of podcast Down The Pipe www.downthepipe-wh.com Podcast Public Channel is DTP Podcast @drverikan on twitter [email protected]
Rek Seven DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale. 603	Posted - 2013.01.24 12:06:00 - [4] - Quote I don't think it's fair to expect all candidates to be willing to be interviewed on a podcast. Instead, you should ask all candidates to answer a standard list of question and submit a personal statement (so people know what they stand for) in this thread. Then you should update your initial post with links to all the candidates "election posts". Why i play EVE:-á20% for gameplay experience, 30% for the social aspect and 50% because of CCPGÇÖs empty promises.-á
Bronya Boga Semper Ubi Sub Ubi 78	Posted - 2013.01.24 12:12:00 - [5] - Quote Rek Seven wrote: I don't think it's fair to expect all candidates to be willing to be interviewed on a podcast. Instead, you should ask all candidates to answer a standard list of question and submit a personal statement (so people know what they stand for) in this thread. Then you should update your initial post with links to all the candidates "election posts". If any candidate doesnt wish to participate in an interview I cant force them, its something we offer to do and think(In our humble opinion) any serious candidate should take advantage of. Its just another way for them to talk to the community and show their involvement. Host of podcast Down The Pipe www.downthepipe-wh.com Podcast Public Channel is DTP Podcast @drverikan on twitter [email protected]
Rek Seven DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale. 603	Posted - 2013.01.24 12:18:00 - [6] - Quote Oh i think the interviews are a good idea but only later on in the process. I would suggest saving the interviews until we have a short list of wormhole candidates. I mean what if we get 20 candidates that all want to be on your podcast, are you going to interview all 20 who might be saying similar things? Why i play EVE:-á20% for gameplay experience, 30% for the social aspect and 50% because of CCPGÇÖs empty promises.-á
Glasgow Dunlop Gigaverse The Imperial Senate 47	Posted - 2013.01.24 12:40:00 - [7] - Quote Well It would mean a hell of a lot more work, and we would all have to listen to all the podcast to get a fair and vaild hue about every person, then there's the primary itself ( dont know whats going on with that just now ) But as Rek said before, getting a set of standard questions & so other things. you could ask: Why are you running? What do you want from the CSM? Whats your credentails? Whats the thing at the top of your agenda, were you to be put forth as our choice? Stuff along those lines I am a small portion of the community-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194625
Bronya Boga Semper Ubi Sub Ubi 78	Posted - 2013.01.24 13:08:00 - [8] - Quote These are all valid concernes. Candidates should mainly rely on written statements. And if anyone want to know more they can listen to the interview. As far as 20 candidates, yea I'll do the work because I think its worth it its also why they will be short 15 minute pieces. And yes there will be a standard list of questions. Edit:spelling because I didn't get coffee Host of podcast Down The Pipe www.downthepipe-wh.com Podcast Public Channel is DTP Podcast @drverikan on twitter [email protected]
Two step Aperture Harmonics K162 3218	Posted - 2013.01.24 13:14:00 - [9] - Quote I support this plan. Please even if you are not ready to announce publicly, at least EVE mail me. I know a lot of people were considering running, please just drop me a quick note if you are still planning on running. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
Chitsa Jason DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale. 257	Posted - 2013.01.24 18:02:00 - [10] - Quote Two step wrote: I support this plan. Please even if you are not ready to announce publicly, at least EVE mail me. I know a lot of people were considering running, please just drop me a quick note if you are still planning on running. I am still planning on running. Ready to post my platform just don't want to rush it.

corbexx Aperture Harmonics K162 72	Posted - 2013.01.24 18:39:00 - [11] - Quote I'd like to hear candidates view on some maybe controverial stuff. leashing of sleepers dread blapping while i accept that this is mainly in high end wh's i'd still like there veiw
Alisyana The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost 99	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:13:00 - [12] - Quote corbexx wrote: I'd like to hear candidates view on some maybe controverial stuff. leashing of sleepers dread blapping ....and drunken engagements and wife swapping ;) Definition of "SD" (Self Destruct) = "It's like running up to someone to kick them in the balls, they see you and proceed to kick themselves in the balls, and then laugh at you for denying someone a chance to kick them in the balls." -á- Celery Man
Taz Edenrunner The Dark Space Initiative 5	Posted - 2013.01.24 21:27:00 - [13] - Quote Alisyana wrote: corbexx wrote: I'd like to hear candidates view on some maybe controverial stuff. leashing of sleepers dread blapping ....and drunken engagements and wife swapping ;) I'm all for that....although might struggle to get the wife to agree
Paikis Vapour Holdings 574	Posted - 2013.01.25 07:15:00 - [14] - Quote Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related? Anyone feel like putting their hand up to run for the rest of wormhole space, so you can get 12 votes and feel like ** afterwards? Bah! I hate popularity contests. Alisyana wrote: corbexx wrote:** I'd like to hear candidates view on some maybe controverial stuff. leashing of sleepers dread blapping ....and drunken engagements and wife swapping ;) Two possible responses: 1. Can I swap my wife for a slab of beer? 2. What's controversial about those?
Winthorp Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 62	Posted - 2013.01.25 08:12:00 - [15] - Quote Alisyana wrote: corbexx wrote: I'd like to hear candidates view on some maybe controverial stuff. leashing of sleepers dread blapping ....and drunken engagements and wife swapping ;) When do i get to vote for you and your perfect platform, i will even ignore your affiliations with TL for your said cause.
Terrorfrodo 382	Posted - 2013.01.25 09:41:00 - [16] - Quote Paikis wrote: Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related? WH alliances are not large enough that any one alliance could push their candidate like goons could with Mittani (who got also one of my four votes :p). And there's plenty of rivalry between the larger alliances. If someone from a small wh corp would run and present a sensible platform and prove that he/she is dedicated and competent, I'm pretty sure he'd have a good shot at winning the nomination and a CSM seat. .
Bronya Boga Semper Ubi Sub Ubi 85	Posted - 2013.01.25 11:43:00 - [17] - Quote Gents lets keep this thread constructive. WH corps\allliances need to push a candidate that is knowledgeable and cares for WH space and it shouldn't matter what corp he is from. Host of podcast Down The Pipe www.downthepipe-wh.com Podcast Public Channel is DTP Podcast @drverikan on twitter [email protected]
Nathan Jameson Talocan Dominion Talocan United 558	Posted - 2013.01.25 14:08:00 - [18] - Quote I will be running for CSM8 this year. I have been waiting to publish my platform based on whether we will have wormhole primaries or not (still waiting on word from CCP). However, I can at least state my intentions in this post. As the fundamental purpose of the Council of Stellar Management is communication between the player base and CCP, I will not be running a platform based on broad, sweeping changes to any particular element of EVE. (Well, except maybe POS's, but this is nothing new.) I will instead be focusing on two elements that are important to me. First is communication, as it was the entire reason the CSM was formed. Communication of one kind or another has always been vital to me (and is, in fact, one of my IRL degrees). To give an example, our alliance's website conveys a large quantity of information that has helped many incoming pilots adjust to wormhole space. And wormhole space can always use more pilots. No candidate can be a strong candidate if he forgets his ultimate priority. Second is a respect for diversity, something that my alliance has respected since the very start. We do not all roll in large deadspace-fit T3 gangs (although some do). Some of us like to camp systems in stealth bombers; some like to farm PI; some like to manufacture and research; some of us even like to shudder mine (which I have done my own fair share of). Sometimes we blob, when we feel the situation warrants it. In most cases, however, our fleets are perhaps a dozen, if not far fewer. We hunt wormhole space, low-sec, and null. We live in systems ranging from C1's and C2's to higher C5's. We are an alliance founded on diversity and mutual respect for the playstyles of others, and we have shown more than one corp the door that has breached this sacred trust. While any specific change to EVE's mechanics will always advantage one group over another, I believe it is my job to represent this mindset...to promote a wide variety of improvements that ultimately remembers everyone, from the richest, most devoted C6 pilots to those who can only sign in on weekends to run their PI. Because in the end, they all pay for their subscription. I appreciate your consideration for me as your candidate for CSM8. Win or lose, I firmly believe it is important for me to run.
MisterAl tt1 Pretenders Inc W-Space 41	Posted - 2013.01.25 14:28:00 - [19] - Quote You may be interested to know, that there is a plan to have some kind of Primaries if the voting system is not changed by CCP. The idea is to have a single (or two, but unlikely) candidate from WH community. Having a lot of candidates can bring none to CSM. More details are to come the next week, since ATM we are waiting for CCP to change (or not) the mechanic. To my knowledge most of the candidates from big alliances are aware of this idea, that was simultaneously proposed by several people, Two Step including.
Fradle Bite Me inc Bitten. 25	Posted - 2013.01.25 18:59:00 - [20] - Quote Chitsa Jason wrote: Two step wrote: I support this plan. Please even if you are not ready to announce publicly, at least EVE mail me. I know a lot of people were considering running, please just drop me a quick note if you are still planning on running. I am still planning on running. Ready to post my platform just don't want to rush it. Gonna start playing EVE again? I hear your RL is busy, nothing against that... we just need a CSM that is active in the game that he's representing.

Bane Nucleus The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost 315	Posted - 2013.01.25 22:26:00 - [21] - Quote Paikis wrote: Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related? That won't happen Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter
Doc Hollidai V0LTA Verge of Collapse 11	Posted - 2013.01.25 23:08:00 - [22] - Quote Bane Nucleus wrote: Paikis wrote: Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related? That won't happen I second this, it will not happen.
Jack Miton Aperture Harmonics K162 1328	Posted - 2013.01.26 02:35:00 - [23] - Quote Paikis wrote: Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related? considering the 2 candidates currently up both live in low class WHs, this comment must be on some sort of level of genious I can't relate to...
Paikis Vapour Holdings 575	Posted - 2013.01.26 02:48:00 - [24] - Quote Jack Miton wrote: Paikis wrote: Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related? considering the 2 candidates currently up both live in low class WHs, this comment must be on some sort of level of genious I can't relate to... Jack... normally I like your posts, but you're making it hard... Confirming that TLost and Talocan are NOT large alliances that live in wormhole space. Also confirming that no one else is allowed to announce that they'll be running now that we have 2 guys (3 guys if you read the first page of this thread). And confirming that no one ever votes for their corp mates just because they're in the same corp. The CSM is a popularity contest where the most votes wins, and the most votes will come from those large alliances. Just like how there's a very large proportion of nullsec members, because those alliances have large numbers. I live in hope, but let's be realistic about this. Anyhow, I'll stop crapping up this thread and ask that anyone who wants to continue this please PM me.
Casirio DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale. 358	Posted - 2013.01.26 03:59:00 - [25] - Quote Paikis wrote: Jack Miton wrote: Paikis wrote: Why do I get the feeling were going to end up with another guy from a large alliance who completely ignores anything that isn't c6 related? considering the 2 candidates currently up both live in low class WHs, this comment must be on some sort of level of genious I can't relate to... Jack... normally I like your posts, but you're making it hard... Confirming that TLost and Talocan are NOT large alliances that live in wormhole space. Also confirming that no one else is allowed to announce that they'll be running now that we have 2 guys (3 guys if you read the first page of this thread). And confirming that no one ever votes for their corp mates just because they're in the same corp. The CSM is a popularity contest where the most votes wins, and the most votes will come from those large alliances. Just like how there's a very large proportion of nullsec members, because those alliances have large numbers. I live in hope, but let's be realistic about this. Anyhow, I'll stop crapping up this thread and ask that anyone who wants to continue this please PM me. so please tell me what is so wrong about a CSM member coming from a large wormhole alliance? also, with that attitude no one else will run. Who's stopping anyone else from putting their voice out and being a good candidate? I will vote for whoever I think will get the job done best. Based on their interaction with our small wormhole community and the points they will push to CCP as a CSM member.
Nathan Jameson Talocan Dominion Talocan United 571	Posted - 2013.01.26 04:35:00 - [26] - Quote Ironically, I actually live in Jita. >_< With the amount of admin paperwork and diplo I have to attend to, also dealing with a personal POS, system, and scanning down exits each day just proved to be too many things on my plate at once. On the plus side, I'm now always available for chat. And, hooking up with individual corp ops is a lot easier now.
Incindir Mauser Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy 45	Posted - 2013.01.26 04:46:00 - [27] - Quote Nathan Jameson wrote: Ironically, I actually live in Jita. >_< With the amount of admin paperwork and diplo I have to attend to, also dealing with a personal POS, system, and scanning down exits each day just proved to be too many things on my plate at once. On the plus side, I'm now always available for chat. And, hooking up with individual corp ops is a lot easier now. Wormhole rep that lives in Jita because he couldn't handle living in a hole. : \|
Casirio DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale. 358	Posted - 2013.01.26 04:57:00 - [28] - Quote Nathan Jameson wrote: Ironically, I actually live in Jita. >_< With the amount of admin paperwork and diplo I have to attend to, also dealing with a personal POS, system, and scanning down exits each day just proved to be too many things on my plate at once. On the plus side, I'm now always available for chat. And, hooking up with individual corp ops is a lot easier now. get the **** outta here ...
Nathan Jameson Talocan Dominion Talocan United 571	Posted - 2013.01.26 05:20:00 - [29] - Quote I'm aware how it could be taken. ;-) I really don't care. Either you want me to be a good wormhole pilot, or a good CSM candidate and diplo. Both of them are full-time jobs.
Incindir Mauser Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy 47	Posted - 2013.01.26 05:34:00 - [30] - Quote Okay if we are going to be electing a representative, I think we need to establish that the person at least understands the concept of representation. Your personal opinions are subsumed by the will of your constituency. This is why communication with your constituents is important. There's a saying in the military that you never complain down you only complain up. Our candidate, whomever we pick, needs to understand completely and thoroughly that this is a thankless task and it's not going to be a whole terrible lot of fun at times. You're going to be getting complained at a lot. Yes, you get a plane ticket to Iceland, it may be cold, but you are going to have flames under your ass no matter what you do. Get too aggressive, you'll be mocked and shouted down by your representative peers. Do nothing and incur the wrath of your constituency. Naturally large W-Space corps and alliances such as Transmission Lost and Aperture Harmonics will put one of their own up for election. It's to be expected. What we need from this person is sound knowledge of w-space, and open lines of communications to everyone living in W-Space. Not just those that live at the upper end of W-Space, like myself. C1's and the like often have their own residents and small corps. Just because TL and AHARM are the big kids in the sandbox, doesn't mean that the people they put up for representatives shouldn't be reaching out to the little guys and getting their thoughts and concerns as well. For this I propose that we get some kind of diplomatic forum going. (If there already is one, I am woefully ignorant, and would appreciated being enlightened.) Yes killing each other makes us better people. But when it comes time to pick our rep, we need to pull together as a community and work together. If only long enough to get the job done, and then go back to stalking each other with murderous intent. Our representative should have good people skills and able to deal with the big egos of the null space crowd so they don't get drowned out when it comes to "bullet point" concerns W-space residents have. And I have to say that Two step has done a pretty good job so far. Not perfect, mind you, but pretty good. And I thank him for his time and efforts on our behalf.



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