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arrPIRATEarr	Posted - 2005.07.05 22:32:00 - [1] any comments abaut misiles just plz give caldari new bs bassed on rails. thx
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.07.05 22:33:00 - [2] EW and missiles appear to be it for specialties. ~Toh'kra Shi'Khran Pawi
Face Lifter	Posted - 2005.07.05 22:35:00 - [3] Just train for gallente bs
keepiru	Posted - 2005.07.05 22:37:00 - [4] Id love a shield-tanking railboat bs - The Shoe dont count here -------------
juduzz	Posted - 2005.07.05 22:48:00 - [5] scorp with rail bonuses would own, ( range and damge) Just dont touch my raven ----------------------------------------------
Diana Merris	Posted - 2005.07.06 14:55:00 - [6] I liked the old 10% range / 5% shield HP Scorp myself. I was even thinking of posting about maybe suggesting they add a "base model" ship based on the Scorpion ship model to fix the backstory problems between the Scorpion, Raven and Rattlesnake descriptions and Ruthless storyline. An "old" version from which the Rattlesnake and "brand new cutting edge" EW Scorpion evolved.
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2005.07.06 14:56:00 - [7] its very fine as it is
Zaintiraris	Posted - 2005.07.06 15:00:00 - [8] That'd suck. Just another sniper ship. Don't you people have enough of those? --- Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
ALPHA12125	Posted - 2005.07.06 15:02:00 - [9] Make the scorpion a new class, like ewar-bs as it is anyway not a bs anymore. Give the caldari a new gunboat as option. a nice tier one bs with an optimal range bonus maybe and no damage bonus since it is tier 1.
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.07.06 15:03:00 - [10] Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 06/07/2005 15:03:09 If you want damage bonuses, go Gallente , otherwise stop trying to copy our great nation.
Cosmic Dragon	Posted - 2005.07.06 15:08:00 - [11] Caldari = MISSILES first rails second mimitar = Projectile first Missiles second Gilent = blasters first drones second Amarr = lasers first missiles second Basically caldari are amissile race but no reason why you cant use rails its just there are no bonuses for using them Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beer Holder!!!
Naughty Boy	Posted - 2005.07.06 15:20:00 - [12] Edited by: Naughty Boy on 06/07/2005 15:21:03 Originally by: Cosmic Dragon Caldari = MISSILES first rails second mimitar = Projectile first Missiles second Gilent = blasters first drones second Amarr = lasers first missiles second Basically caldari are amissile race but no reason why you cant use rails its just there are no bonuses for using them That doesn't work for two reasons. First, gallente have one gunboat BS and one droneboat BS. One get bonus and fittings for the primary weapon, the second... for the secondary weapon. Why not caldari ? Second, your reasoning is like: "mosquitos only bites people who complains about them, i know it, because anybody whom i heard complaining about mosquitos had been biten"... Is caldari a "missile race" because they have missile boats, or do they have missile boats because they are a "missile race" ? I don't get you point tbh. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy.
Sforza	Posted - 2005.07.06 15:21:00 - [13] OK fine, As long as your give the Gallente an ECM ship, the Minnies a missle boat, and the Amarr a drone ship. Sforza Director - FU2 Council Member - Ushra'Khan
MrBadidea	Posted - 2005.07.06 15:24:00 - [14] Convert the Scorpion in its current form into the T2 Scorp- its huge array of midslots, combined with the apparant command-purposes of the T2 battleships should fit quite nicely. In its place, we can have the "old" scorpion, back when it had the rail bonuses.
Noriath	Posted - 2005.07.06 15:30:00 - [15] Originally by: ALPHA12125 Make the scorpion a new class, like ewar-bs as it is anyway not a bs anymore. Give the caldari a new gunboat as option. a nice tier one bs with an optimal range bonus maybe and no damage bonus since it is tier 1. Yea, that would be the best thing to do... Move the Scorpion to a whole new class of ships, then give the other 3 races Ships with some bonuses, like a long range damper-ship for Gallante, a long range propulsion jamming ship for minmatar, and long range weapon jamming ship for amarr... Each with at least 6-7 meds. Then give Caldari a Railgun based Battleship with a damage and a ROF bonus, 6-8 guns, 6 med 5 low... Right now the Scorpion is stupid, every race gets two combat ships and no EW except for Caldari who get one EW and one combat ship. It would just make more sense if everyone had their EW and two combat ships - especially since weapon jammers, propulsion jammers and dampers don't get bonuses on any battleship sized platform.
Alex Harumichi	Posted - 2005.07.06 15:37:00 - [16] Actually, one fun option would be to introduce one new t1 battleship to all the races. Give the Caldari a railgun platform, and the others some other shiny new toys.
Vicious Vic	Posted - 2005.07.06 15:45:00 - [17] 4 x 425 II's on a Scorp and the ability to jam up to 4 battle ships at the same time and you want another bonus on the scorp What is max range of a target painter on a scorp anyway
Cosmic Dragon	Posted - 2005.07.06 16:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Vicious Vic 4 x 425 II's on a Scorp and the ability to jam up to 4 battle ships at the same time and you want another bonus on the scorp What is max range of a target painter on a scorp anyway Exactly same goes for raven and other caldari ships Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beer Holder!!!
j0sephine	Posted - 2005.07.06 16:54:00 - [19] "4 x 425 II's on a Scorp and the ability to jam up to 4 battle ships at the same time and you want another bonus on the scorp" 4 x 425 tech.2 rails with all relevant skills maxed: ~95 dps against unhardened target, ~50 against anything vaguely protected. The only way you'll kill someone with that is, they die from laughter when they see your damage output. And yes, "same goes for raven and other caldari ships"...
slothe	Posted - 2005.07.06 16:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Vicious Vic 4 x 425 II's on a Scorp and the ability to jam up to 4 battle ships at the same time and you want another bonus on the scorp What is max range of a target painter on a scorp anyway firstly its difficult to fit 4 425mm railguns on a scorp even if you wanted to due to pg constraints. secondly, even if you did, so what? 4 x 425mm arent that powerful (when low slots wont have damage mods on a scorp as youll need rcu or ps to fit them) especially compared to a megathron that can fit 7x425mm rails easy with up to 5 damage mods. id bet most people would stick with a "nerfed (tm)" cruise missile setup over rails on a scorp for defensive potential. caldari historically are meant to use railguns, missiles have evelved over time as they do more damage than rails. Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" lordmix >... i helped a corp m8 pull it off
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.07.06 17:25:00 - [21] Originally by: slothe firstly its difficult to fit 4 425mm railguns on a scorp even if you wanted to due to pg constraints. Train Advance Weapons Upgrades 4tw. Quote: secondly, even if you did, so what? 4 x 425mm arent that powerful (when low slots wont have damage mods on a scorp as youll need rcu or ps to fit them) especially compared to a megathron that can fit 7x425mm rails easy with up to 5 damage mods. id bet most people would stick with a "nerfed (tm)" cruise missile setup over rails on a scorp for defensive potential. caldari historically are meant to use railguns, missiles have evelved over time as they do more damage than rails. The devs have long ago gave up trying to make the Caldari a more Rail race. Just specilaize in missles and ew. Also, stop whining that your tier 1 BS can't compete with the tier 2. PS the amaragedeon is way to strong yes.
Kyse	Posted - 2005.07.06 17:44:00 - [22] Good lord dont be making caldari battleships rail boats. You want a rail boat then get a gallente megathron. Caldari have never really run any gun boats we have always been missile boats. Missiles work just fine once you pick up the new skills, yes their are a few but hell you need many skills to make turrets worth jack as well. PS: Yes the Armageddon is way overpowered.
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.07.06 17:58:00 - [23] we have our blackbird and caracal equivilent battleships, we want our moa. Ferox is a great ship but it's not a battleship ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
Ademaro Imre	Posted - 2005.07.06 18:47:00 - [24] Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi EW and missiles appear to be it for specialties. The scorpion is an appalling EW platform. The tiny 5% boost to jammer strength mean absolutely nothing when it is by far the slowest targeting battleship in the game. So - you must give up med slots for sensor boosters. Give up med slots for painters if you want to use a launcher. So you have 6 slots left for tanking.
Rezy	Posted - 2005.07.06 18:55:00 - [25] Edited by: Rezy on 06/07/2005 18:57:22 I find the 5% to jammer strength very helpful with the ECM's. If it was any more then we would have a major inbalance. As for their targeting speed yes it does suck that it is so low. But one Sensor booster 2 really helps it along. Just about all battleships need a sensor booster to make their targeting speed worth while. Plus the Scorp has the longest targeting range which does balance out its lower locking time. (Perhaps not in all situations but hell.) And only 6 mid slots left for tanking? My god most ships dont even have the 6 mid slots. PS: If you having a problem with jamming then i suggest using more then one jammer on a ship for a better overall chance. Its still better then what ECM's use to be.
Cheim	Posted - 2005.07.06 19:45:00 - [26] Originally by: Ademaro Imre The scorpion is an appalling EW platform. The tiny 5% boost to jammer strength mean absolutely nothing when it is by far the slowest targeting battleship in the game. So - you must give up med slots for sensor boosters. Give up med slots for painters if you want to use a launcher. So you have 6 slots left for tanking. Tanking? Target Painters? Huh? Try a couple sensor boosters and a bunch of ECM jammers. Of course it is an appalling EW platform if you don't fit any EW. The Scorpion's bonuses are fantastic for ECM. Dropping one for 10% optimal with large hybrids would ruin the ship. Right now the Caldari have a missile battleship and an EW battleship. What's wrong with that? Minmatar use missiles as a secondary weapon, yet their battleships don't get bonuses for them.
Noriath	Posted - 2005.07.06 20:03:00 - [27] There is nothing wrong with it, it would just be better if other races had some EW too, and Caldari had a gunship too. I mean a lot of people don't care what race ship they fly, they just pick them by the stats and bonuses they want and that's ok, but especially for people who fly only one race because of roleplaying its very anoying if they don't have access to EW based battleships at all because only one exists and its only availible for one race...
Taraniis	Posted - 2005.07.06 20:15:00 - [28] Edited by: Taraniis on 06/07/2005 20:20:57 What the ** is wrong with you Caldari whining nancy boys? You get a missile fix which makes the missiles far more effective than they were pre patch. (STFU moaning about the fact your torps can't OMG!wtf?pwn a bazillion frigates anymore, big ships are NOT supposed to hit little ones, simple.) And now you want a 3rd BS just because you can't be bothered to train Gallente or Minnie ship skills? You already have the hardest BS in the game (also the most prolific) and you have most arguably the best EW ship in the game too!! What more do you *ers want? Shut up and train skills like the rest of us. As for roleplay. If you picked the Caldari knowing they don't have rail boats then tough luck, your bad, get on with it. Why pick a race and then moan that the race you picked doesn't have the ship you want? Thats like buying a Ford Focus and complaining its not a Mercedes S-Class. Is it just me or does anyone else have a problem with this? edited 1 time - by Taraniis*
Kelcen	Posted - 2005.07.06 20:21:00 - [29] i think you should work on your language skill. also you should fit a agression reducing mod.
Lao Tzu	Posted - 2005.07.06 20:28:00 - [30] I agree

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