EVE Search - What's with Freighter prices?

All Channels

Ships and Modules

What's with Freighter prices?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Veneth	Posted - 2005.07.06 01:08:00 - [1] Edited by: Veneth on 06/07/2005 01:11:13 seriously what is going on with frieghters?? why do they take such a enormous amount of minerals to build? and the prices of the skills are astronomical. I think the dev's are starting to think that players have to much money kicking around, which is sort of true, but this has gotten insane.. it's a cargo hauler... I can buy/build a small fleet of battleships for that price. I just can't believe how many people seem ok with these prices..
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.07.06 01:11:00 - [2] Considering it is just a giant cargo bay, with no fittings at all, the pricing of it seems off. ~Toh'kra Shi'Khran Pawi
MooKids	Posted - 2005.07.06 01:19:00 - [3] Ever try hauling 14 million trit over 10 jumps in a standard Industrial? -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Veneth	Posted - 2005.07.06 01:23:00 - [4] Originally by: MooKids Ever try hauling 14 million trit over 10 jumps in a standard Industrial? you relieze it takes about 10 times that much trit to build one?
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.07.06 01:26:00 - [5] trust me .. the ships are fine as they are. Plenty of people will want at least one. POS? outpost? oh man.. if only I had one of these when I set up my POS. Would have been worth every penny ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
Moominer	Posted - 2005.07.06 01:26:00 - [6] Edited by: Moominer on 06/07/2005 01:26:51 I think the idea is they are intended for corps/alliances for large scale hauling (of repackaged ships/modules/fuel etc. etc.) from empire down to 0.0 in one big go, and not for individuals to hop around empire in. Or obviously very rich players, in which case they are being an isk sink which is badly needed currently. My hauler alt can basically fly a gallente frieghter already (its 2 months old...) but im not going to be able to afford one for myself for a long, long while.
Veneth	Posted - 2005.07.06 01:30:00 - [7] Originally by: Moominer Edited by: Moominer on 06/07/2005 01:26:51 I think the idea is they are intended for corps/alliances for large scale hauling (of repackaged ships/modules/fuel etc. etc.) from empire down to 0.0 in one big go, and not for individuals to hop around empire in. Or obviously very rich players, in which case they are being an isk sink which is badly needed currently. My hauler alt can basically fly a gallente frieghter already (its 2 months old...) but im not going to be able to afford one for myself for a long, long while. It's not an isk sink, people are building these, so someone is making money. Rich is so..relative.. I have around 1 billion in cash + assests.. I know people with 300+ billion.. My point is. why charge so much for something that just hauls cargo??
Sicori Malaki	Posted - 2005.07.06 01:46:00 - [8] because .. it is not intended for personal use.. it is intended for "mega" corporations who need to move couple battleships, cruisers, frigates and still more between places. it is intended for alliances, who need to do the same as "mega" corps + it is needed to build outposts which costs even more and each component takes 100k m^3. this is not intended for the single induvidual or small corp, its expensive because it's not "just" a hauler, it's an important logistic ship. ______________ Only in the Tales that humans tell, do the hunters kill the wolf in the end.
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.07.06 01:52:00 - [9] Originally by: Sicori Malaki because .. it is not intended for personal use.. it is intended for "mega" corporations who need to move couple battleships, cruisers, frigates and still more between places. it is intended for alliances, who need to do the same as "mega" corps + it is needed to build outposts which costs even more and each component takes 100k m^3. this is not intended for the single induvidual or small corp, its expensive because it's not "just" a hauler, it's an important logistic ship. Good point. ~Toh'kra Shi'Khran Pawi
Moominer	Posted - 2005.07.06 01:53:00 - [10] Edited by: Moominer on 06/07/2005 01:53:45 Originally by: Veneth It's not an isk sink, people are building these, so someone is making money. Originally by: Veneth and the prices of the skills are astronomical. Skills, ship BPO, component BPO all are bought off the market from NPCs so are isk sinks. The minerals mined to manufacture the ships are just moving isk already in the system not generating any more. Quote: Rich is so..relative.. I have around 1 billion in cash + assests.. I know people with 300+ billion.. My point is. why charge so much for something that just hauls cargo?? Said already => (edit: said better post above)
hellraiser 2	Posted - 2005.07.06 01:57:00 - [11] they changed the ships skillbefore it went on TQ and you don't require the capital ship skill now. That skill alone is 400mil which you won't have to pay so don't complain. anyway just think of all those trade good people can ship around and sell now with those things. The shear quantity means you will make alot more isk from doing it. Also if you are going to build an outpost you need one because some of the components are 100,000m3 and they need to be built in a station before being hauled to ther platform.
Vinyl Pants	Posted - 2005.07.06 02:21:00 - [12] Originally by: hellraiser 2 they changed the ships skillbefore it went on TQ and you don't require the capital ship skill now. That skill alone is 400mil which you won't have to pay so don't complain. anyway just think of all those trade good people can ship around and sell now with those things. The shear quantity means you will make alot more isk from doing it. Also if you are going to build an outpost you need one because some of the components are 100,000m3 and they need to be built in a station before being hauled to ther platform. onlything is, with base speed and no modules, everyone will be insta-booking them, or have a friend as a gang member, giving you a good warp in point at every gate
Will Basthard	Posted - 2005.07.06 03:56:00 - [13] IMHO it doesn't cost enough. If it was 2 billion I would still buy one because I have cussed too many time wasting valuable man hours hauling cruisers and battlecruisers 10+ jumps from my mineral depot to amarr. Cargo is the life blood of EVE... naturally a uber cargo ship will cost uber wages. Its a professionals ship... if your not one then don't complain and just get an itty 5 and some 27% expanders... oops hell that is pretty expensive too... go chew out the vultures selling expanders so high before you question the DEVs intentions.
Veneth	Posted - 2005.07.06 05:04:00 - [14] I'd like to thank all the L33t that came here and proved my point "doesn't require a 400 mil skill so be happy" "i'd buy one if it was 2 bill" perhaps you have forgotten there are still people that are will to spend large sums of money on a ship, but since when should a massive freight hauler make a battleships price tag seem whimpy? Many of you have simply lost a grip on money with how easily it can flow in eve, I'll just leave and let you all enjoy excessive pricing. And my heartfelt apology to any noob trying to make it somewhere in this game these days..
Domalais	Posted - 2005.07.06 06:15:00 - [15] Originally by: Veneth perhaps you have forgotten there are still people that are will to spend large sums of money on a ship, but since when should a massive freight hauler make a battleships price tag seem whimpy? Do you have any concept of how much money you could make with just one transport of goods? How about the truly mind boggling quantities of minerals you could move from those huge, low priced sell orders to those huge, high priced buy orders?
Veneth	Posted - 2005.07.06 06:31:00 - [16] Edited by: Veneth on 06/07/2005 06:34:53 Originally by: Domalais Originally by: Veneth perhaps you have forgotten there are still people that are will to spend large sums of money on a ship, but since when should a massive freight hauler make a battleships price tag seem whimpy? Do you have any concept of how much money you could make with just one transport of goods? How about the truly mind boggling quantities of minerals you could move from those huge, low priced sell orders to those huge, high priced buy orders? transport of trade goods wouldn't be affected terribly much seeing there's a limted number released in a day. and the low sell orders and high buy orders would even out as they could themselves move the minerals.. those getting rid of the need to blow out the mins cause you don't wanna haul.. THINK edit: and simply because joe other there wants to sell his trit at .001 cause he has 30 mill units shouldn't be a basis for a pricing of a new ship class.. should the prices of i5's rocket cause I'll give you free Zyd that'll just fill it's cargo hold so u can sell it? no..
Lansfear	Posted - 2005.07.06 06:34:00 - [17] Extremely worth the isk. Im sick of transporting 50mil units of minerals by indy everytime.
Domalais	Posted - 2005.07.06 06:39:00 - [18] Originally by: Veneth transport of trade goods wouldn't be affected terribly much seeing there's a limted number released in a day. and the low sell orders and high buy orders would even out as they could themselves move the minerals.. those getting rid of the need to blow out the mins cause you don't wanna haul.. THINK You think. I said goods not trade goods. If you can't imagine a dozen ways to make a billion isk by using a freighter then you lack imagination. These are powerful tools and a valuable investment. Time is isk. Those buy and sell orders even themselves out? Looked at the market lately? Transporting huge amounts of mins is costly. When one run in one ship can replace dozens of runs by a half dozen ships, that is worth MONEY. When one ship can transport five battleships at one time to their point of sale, that is worth MONEY. When those battleships can be of all four races and not require a transport character with skills to pilot all four races' battleships, that is worth MONEY.
belzebub1	Posted - 2005.07.06 07:29:00 - [19] Edited by: belzebub1 on 06/07/2005 07:29:55 Doing 200 jumps in 1 day with 2 accounts hauling trit is a pain. I am glad that freighters are here and I am happy with the price. My BPo is already in the lab and the components Bpo's will be hitting the labs today. Some points to note Gallente freighter takes nearly 3 weeks to raise 1 ME. Takes 15 days just to build 1 - not including the components and gathering materials. It also takes a long time to copy the BPC's. Taking all of this into account there will not be to many of these produced every day unlike all the other ship classes. Want to hire trit miners will be paid very well Dont forget to visit Magma Index at the below Link. http://www.magmaindex.uni.cc/
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.07.06 08:40:00 - [20] Originally by: Veneth I'd like to thank all the L33t that came here and proved my point "doesn't require a 400 mil skill so be happy" "i'd buy one if it was 2 bill" perhaps you have forgotten there are still people that are will to spend large sums of money on a ship, but since when should a massive freight hauler make a battleships price tag seem whimpy? Many of you have simply lost a grip on money with how easily it can flow in eve, I'll just leave and let you all enjoy excessive pricing. And my heartfelt apology to any noob trying to make it somewhere in this game these days.. You are absolutely right. The first thing a new player needs on joining the game is a freighter. I mean if its not for new players then whats the point in making them in the first place. The BPO is also unreasonably priced. I dont think its worth more than maybe 45k to 50k isk. The mineral requirements should def be below that of a shuttle. Oh wait I'm talking nonsensical crap just like you are. Get a grip and enjoy the game or quit (I prefer whiners quitting actually) Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!! In the Immortal words of Kayosoni (and where applicable) "This thread sucks. 2 Newb corps trying to make themselves look good... ugh"
s73v3n2k	Posted - 2005.07.06 09:58:00 - [21] Originally by: belzebub1 Edited by: belzebub1 on 06/07/2005 07:29:55 Doing 200 jumps in 1 day with 2 accounts hauling trit is a pain. I am glad that freighters are here and I am happy with the price. My BPo is already in the lab and the components Bpo's will be hitting the labs today. Some points to note Gallente freighter takes nearly 3 weeks to raise 1 ME. Takes 15 days just to build 1 - not including the components and gathering materials. It also takes a long time to copy the BPC's. Taking all of this into account there will not be to many of these produced every day unlike all the other ship classes. Want to hire trit miners will be paid very well Yep they take about 15 days to make the ships and something like 6 weeks to make a BPC so don't expect that to happen. No point inresearching the ME unless you have the Component Bpo's. At current minerals prices expect them to be closer to 1bil than 800mil
BlackMatrix	Posted - 2005.07.06 11:27:00 - [22] Edited by: BlackMatrix on 06/07/2005 11:27:44 Please could someone paste the mineral/component req's in here for freighters (for the people who haven't quite got enough money to buy one yet :) ) Many thanks
anthonieak	Posted - 2005.07.06 11:32:00 - [23] Are those BPO's or BPC's come frome mission or can buy them on market or escrow. What are mineral requirements of a freighter. It final has use too mine tritanium again. 50 mil trit a week a hope. Just buy a freighter BPC for tritanium. AK *********************************************** Miner Addicted Corvetor Modulated Miner Veldspar crystals II Mining drones lvl 5 10 mining drones too work
belzebub1	Posted - 2005.07.06 12:32:00 - [24] anthonieak These are BPo's they are only available on maret, Gallente BPo costs 1.98 Billion, If you get a BPc you either have to get BPc's for all 4 components or buy the components from manufacturers. If you are intrested in mining trit give me a shout ingame please as my corp will be making freighters. Dont forget to visit Magma Index at the below Link. http://www.magmaindex.uni.cc/
mememem	Posted - 2005.07.06 13:32:00 - [25] Originally by: s73v3n2k Originally by: belzebub1 Edited by: belzebub1 on 06/07/2005 07:29:55 Doing 200 jumps in 1 day with 2 accounts hauling trit is a pain. I am glad that freighters are here and I am happy with the price. My BPo is already in the lab and the components Bpo's will be hitting the labs today. Some points to note Gallente freighter takes nearly 3 weeks to raise 1 ME. Takes 15 days just to build 1 - not including the components and gathering materials. It also takes a long time to copy the BPC's. Taking all of this into account there will not be to many of these produced every day unlike all the other ship classes. Want to hire trit miners will be paid very well Yep they take about 15 days to make the ships and something like 6 weeks to make a BPC so don't expect that to happen. No point inresearching the ME unless you have the Component Bpo's. At current minerals prices expect them to be closer to 1bil than 800mil Isnt it 2 weeks to make, 6 weeks to research me 1 lvl, and 3 weeks to copy? Or is my bpo just broken?
Veneth	Posted - 2005.07.06 14:26:00 - [26] Edited by: Veneth on 06/07/2005 14:27:48 Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Veneth I'd like to thank all the L33t that came here and proved my point "doesn't require a 400 mil skill so be happy" "i'd buy one if it was 2 bill" perhaps you have forgotten there are still people that are will to spend large sums of money on a ship, but since when should a massive freight hauler make a battleships price tag seem whimpy? Many of you have simply lost a grip on money with how easily it can flow in eve, I'll just leave and let you all enjoy excessive pricing. And my heartfelt apology to any noob trying to make it somewhere in this game these days.. You are absolutely right. The first thing a new player needs on joining the game is a freighter. I mean if its not for new players then whats the point in making them in the first place. The BPO is also unreasonably priced. I dont think its worth more than maybe 45k to 50k isk. The mineral requirements should def be below that of a shuttle. Oh wait I'm talking nonsensical crap just like you are. Get a grip and enjoy the game or quit (I prefer whiners quitting actually) here's a little hint. next time you try to call someone a noob why don't you check out just how long they've been playing for? I think you'll be suprised did I say noob being able to buy one? no.. my personal vision for freighter prices was in the 150-200 million range. not this astromical pricetag they've come up with for a mass cargo ship. The problem this game is encountering is that every new ship they crank out (besides Destroyers and BCs) but the Interceptors, covert ops, Logestics (sp), HACs, Assault ships, Bombers,transports and now the Freighters and Dread's are for the select few. there's no reason for a mass cargo ship to have close to a 1 bill price tag. the price of a battleship + some would of been fair enough if you ask me. The problem I see with most of you older players like myself is you "screw NEWER players" attitude. you've become to leet. heaven forbid someone playing this game for a few months can fly something cool And don't worry I already quit. but no you can't have my stuff. gave it all to the Corp ;)
Domalais	Posted - 2005.07.06 15:57:00 - [27] Originally by: Veneth The problem this game is encountering is that every new ship they crank out (besides Destroyers and BCs) but the Interceptors, covert ops, Logestics (sp), HACs, Assault ships, Bombers,transports and now the Freighters and Dread's are for the select few. They're all for the select few because they are specialized ships and only needed by the select few. The price of freighters is based on their potential profitability. Is a freighter potentially ten times more profitable than a battleship? Easily yes.
Not Hanz	Posted - 2005.07.06 16:17:00 - [28] Hi, noob here. Ive been playing this game for a couple days shy of a month now. I have absolutely no problem with the new freighter prices. If everything in the game was available to anyone that played the game hard for 2 months what would the point be of playing for more than that? I love the fact that there are huge things out there to strive towards.
Onmarr Shan	Posted - 2005.07.06 16:33:00 - [29] Anyone care to post the mineral requirements in here please :)
Sophie Mae	Posted - 2005.07.06 18:10:00 - [30] Originally by: Not Hanz Hi, noob here. Ive been playing this game for a couple days shy of a month now. I have absolutely no problem with the new freighter prices. If everything in the game was available to anyone that played the game hard for 2 months what would the point be of playing for more than that? I love the fact that there are huge things out there to strive towards. Ditto, been playing about 2 months now. Mainly as a hauler to/from 0.0 to/from Empire, and love the idea of Freighters, and am fine with the price. It shouldn't take that long to recoup with the profit potential of that ship.

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.