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s73v3n2k	Posted - 2005.07.11 06:25:00 - [121] Edited by: s73v3n2k on 11/07/2005 06:27:10 Edited by: s73v3n2k on 11/07/2005 06:26:34 Edited by: s73v3n2k on 11/07/2005 06:26:04 This is the best bug ever - currently i have caldari BS 5 torps lvl 4, all the new skills to lvl 3 apart from warhead upgrade which is lvl 2. now i would expect with no dmg mods to be hitting at around 570-580 maximum. Here is what i just got when i killed some BS in lvl 4 extrvaganza NPC BS 1 ------------------- 2005.07.11 05:53:57combatYour Mjolnir Torpedo I hits Gist Seraphim, doing 760.4 damage. 2005.07.11 05:53:59combatYour Mjolnir Torpedo I hits Gist Seraphim, doing 918.2 damage. 2005.07.11 05:54:28combatYour Mjolnir Torpedo I hits Gist Seraphim, doing 822.3 damage. NPC BS 2 -------------------- 2005.07.11 06:06:16combatYour Mjolnir Torpedo I hits Gist Seraphim, doing 897.0 damage. 2005.07.11 06:06:26combatYour Mjolnir Torpedo I hits Gist Seraphim, doing 733.4 damage. 2005.07.11 06:06:44combatYour Mjolnir Torpedo I hits Gist Seraphim, doing 918.1 damage. Now did i miss something when calculating the dmg ? They were all structure shots by the way but still it shouldn't be that much edit - typos
Aadarm	Posted - 2005.07.11 06:30:00 - [122] I kinda like the new missiles for the most part, Still trying to find a really effective way for my raven to take down frigs and intys but other than that I don't really see this as a nerf, Only problem I do have is that with the amount of missiles I am now using I think that the missiles could use a slight reduction in size to compensate for the increased number being used. Also find myself much prefering cruises now to torps as they tend to be doing almost the same damage as my torps against most bs.
j0sephine	Posted - 2005.07.11 06:32:00 - [123] "Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Guristas Kyoukan, doing 120.9 damage. Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Guristas Kyoukan, doing 141.0 damage." ... I hope to gods this is a result of some bug and not of --what's being discussed in general forum-- an actual system where missile damage is based on the target's vector rather than straight velocity... because if it's the latter and these figures are normal, why would a battleship ever want to bother fitting anything but the large launchers? :/
s73v3n2k	Posted - 2005.07.11 06:40:00 - [124] even better - i am still doing the same mission and just got this 2005.07.11 06:36:33combatYour Bane Torpedo I hits Gist Commander, doing 1016.5 damage.
ATRADE	Posted - 2005.07.11 08:08:00 - [125] i keep getting random damage. its pretty anoying if cannot calculate how much damage you do. 2005.07.11 08:04:04combatYour Inferno Torpedo I hits Guardian Captain, doing 179.3 damage. 2005.07.11 08:04:19combatYour Inferno Torpedo I hits Guardian Captain, doing 118.3 damage.
Grey Area	Posted - 2005.07.11 08:24:00 - [126] Originally by: s73v3n2k even better - i am still doing the same mission and just got this 2005.07.11 06:36:33combatYour Bane Torpedo I hits Gist Commander, doing 1016.5 damage. What the...? splutter ack gargle It's still the case that I can't hit NPC BS for more than 200 points...all new skills to level 3, Caldari BS to level 4, Torps to level 5. Have used Banes and Juggernauts so far...maybe I'll try the other two types. What is going on? I am starting to suspect that the new missile system has been poorly implemented and is giving different results from player to player. Can you post details of your setup so that I can see if there is some magic module I am missing? Thanks! ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * =========================================
Vilserx	Posted - 2005.07.11 10:45:00 - [127] Originally by: Nnnng Urghhhh [ 2005.07.09 14:29:59 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Guristas Kyoukan barely scratches you, causing 7.2 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:29:59 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Wrath Cruise Missile I belonging to Guristas Pirates hits you, doing 112.5 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:30:00 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Scourge Heavy Missile I belonging to Guristas Pirates hits you, doing 51.8 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:30:02 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Guristas Kyoukan, doing 120.9 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:30:03 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Guristas Kyoukan, doing 141.0 damage. and [ 2005.07.09 14:35:24 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Wrath Cruise Missile I belonging to Guristas Pirates hits you, doing 112.5 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:35:25 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Dread Pith Extinguisher, doing 345.1 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:35:26 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Dread Pith Extinguisher, doing 400.3 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:35:27 ] (combat) Dread Pith Extinguisher lands a hit on you which glances off, causing no real damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:35:28 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Dread Pith Extinguisher, doing 399.3 damage.[ 2005.07.09 14:35:29 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Dread Pith Extinguisher, doing 251.0 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:35:30 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits Dread Pith Extinguisher, doing 295.2 damage. [ 2005.07.09 14:35:31 ] (combat) Dread Pith Extinguisher barely misses you. ok so i exaggerated a bit but not much i certainly cant complain at the damage me missiles are doing funnily enough me cruise outdamage me torps Those are not 'consistent' hits however. Out of how many cruise missiles do your missiles hit for that damage on frigates? --------------------------- VSX EVE Design
Azrael Maxim	Posted - 2005.07.11 11:18:00 - [128] Edited by: Azrael Maxim on 11/07/2005 11:20:00 Just did damsel in distress lvl 4. I have all new missile skills at lvl 3, cruise on lvl 3 and i used 3 ballistic control units. I use a best named painter on frigs and cruisers, I also use 8 vespa drones as frig killers, but I think they are pretty much worthless since the drone controls are ****. Ill post damages done on various rats. [ 2005.07.11 09:17:15 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Wrath Cruise Missile I hits Mercenary Wingman, doing 31.5 damage. <- on shields. [ 2005.07.11 09:18:24 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Wrath Cruise Missile I hits Mercenary Wingman, doing 43.0 damage. <- on armor. [ 2005.07.11 09:18:33 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Wrath Cruise Missile I hits Mercenary Wingman, doing 55.9 damage.<- on structure [ 2005.07.11 09:22:29 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Wrath Cruise Missile I hits Zazzmatazz's Bodyguard, doing 131.8 damage.<-on shields. [ 2005.07.11 09:22:32 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Wrath Cruise Missile I hits Zazzmatazz's Bodyguard, doing 171.3 damage<-on armor. [ 2005.07.11 09:22:38 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Wrath Cruise Missile I hits Zazzmatazz's Bodyguard, doing 292.9 damage<-on structure. [ 2005.07.11 09:28:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Wrath Cruise Missile I hits Zor, doing 293.1 damage.<-on shields. [ 2005.07.11 09:28:29 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Wrath Cruise Missile I hits Zor, doing 365.8 damage.<-on armor. [ 2005.07.11 09:28:39 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Wrath Cruise Missile I hits Zor, doing 464.0 damage.<-on structure. Not much else to add really except that missions have become more of a grind and not less (personal opinion here!)
BIRDofPREY	Posted - 2005.07.11 22:01:00 - [129] A new interesting developement came up when I went to test my skills (all lvl 3) on a corp mates assualt frig... 2005.07.11 21:07:59 notify Your attempt to target Wolf failed. My Raven could not lock his ship - even after several attempts. I put on a tech II signal booster and it took almost 30 seconds to lock... screw this Your 650mm Artillery Cannon I perfectly strikes Serpentis Guard, wrecking for 340.0 damage
Grey Area	Posted - 2005.07.11 22:11:00 - [130] Having said for ages that I can't do decent damage to BS's....Just been on a mission with a corp mate and totally wrecked some...hits of 670 on structure, which is about 40 points better than it used to be. A question....have CCP been sneaky and made it so you only do half damage if you are alone? However...hits on a Shipyard still only 268 points...on structure...why are torps not doing full damage to structures? ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * =========================================
Epais Tete	Posted - 2005.07.11 22:53:00 - [131] Originally by: Black Tear I started playing this game because i saw that i can do everything by myself. I was hunting cruiser in a kessie, and it was fun. Now i entered with my caracal in a 4lvl complex and just tried my scourge missle on a cruiser... it sucked, from at 200dmg aprox 70dmg now? The Caldari mean missles, you just ruined them... I don't think i'll quit eve... yet... but sure a lot of new players won't play anymore. Many started playing because they saw that they can get in a ship pretty fast, now they'll just leave. Have you ever thought that a Frigate killing a cruiser was a little strange -- Like I guy with a bb gun killing a guy with a shotgun. I do agree that the Kessie is now nearly useless seeing I used to be able to hit drones at 27k+ and now need to be under 20k and forget killing light missile firing drones they hit u at 30K+ using light missiles. The Kestel doesn't have enough cpu/power to mount much unless u use civilian modules like civilian ABs and the like. I tried using a rocket launcher to fire defeners but it only held 7 at atime I think this patch isn't ok yet, you should think twice before making mistakes like this one. And the GM that came up with this ideea knows, and I'm waiting an answer from him. WE PAY FOR THIS GAME! WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET SOME ANSWERS! I'm waiting...
Grey Area	Posted - 2005.07.11 23:10:00 - [132] Originally by: Epais Tete Originally by: Black Tear "Like I guy with a bb gun killing a guy with a shotgun." If the guy with the BB gun is a good shot, and he's at a good distance from the guy with the shotgun, I'd give him pretty good odds...shotgun blast is easily survivable over a few tens of feet...very similar to a blaster in that respect. The guy with the BB gun could shoot the shotgun guy in the eye and kill him outright...very similar to a railgun I suppose. But all the above is a little academic. It's a game...of course you shouldn't stretch disbelief TOO far...but if the biggest ship always owns all others, then where is the incentive to fly the smaller ship? EVE would be full of Battleships, and their only "victims" would be noobs who are only in smaller ships cos they haven't learned the BS skill yet...doesn't sound like much fun to me. ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * =========================================

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