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MainDrain
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Posted - 2013.01.25 12:17:00 -
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Ildryn wrote:Baron Dmitri Harkonnen wrote:Because all I see are complaints.
I would of thought the developers would of received overwhelming data and feedback from players before making such a change since it affects such a large amount of the player base but the majority of the threads are wanting a rollback until it's fixed.
It's like a select few of you have this opinion on what EVE PVE should be and screw everyone else who thinks otherwise. You want it to be more like PVP but if people wanted that then...wouldn't they go and just PVP? Why are you forcing these changes when all the threads on the matter say no thank you.
Not only that but it's broken. I mean it's doable but it's a teeth pulling experience. EWAR is out of hand and flying a drone boat is just a hassle, you basically have to babysit your drones and even then they have a tendency to pop faster that you can recall.
So I ask you: Why the drastic changes and why change it like this? Where did you get your data from that this would be the best way? Why have you re-balanced NPC AI without the rest of the PVE changes that it was obviously intended for?
*Puts flame retardant suit on* There has been no significant changes since you started playing. What changes has there been for you?
People dont like changes because they have to pay attention and it now takes slightly more effort to grind the isk! Had they dumbed the AI down to make it easier people would have complained as well.
Players like to moan, nothing they could do would please everyone. I for one am happy with the changes after the fixed the insane aggro against drones (which they admitted)
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MainDrain
7th Deepari Defence Armada
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Posted - 2013.01.25 12:36:00 -
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Baron Dmitri Harkonnen wrote:MainDrain wrote:
People dont like changes because they have to pay attention and it now takes slightly more effort to grind the isk! Had they dumbed the AI down to make it easier people would have complained as well.
Players like to moan, nothing they could do would please everyone. I for one am happy with the changes after the fixed the insane aggro against drones (which they admitted)
Again no one is complaining about difficulty. This is an issue of introducing half of the "rebalance of PVE" without the other. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2462718#post2462718They go on to say: "Reducing NPC numbers also allows us to better scale EW player faces on a regular basis (mainly, we are referring to missions like the Blockade here). Assigning strong EW effects to few NPCs is fine, but it becomes horribly frustrating when faced with 5 full waves of NPCs sensor dampening you, as there is little the player can do to counter it. We should be relying on gameplay players can overcome if they are smart instead of brute force mechanics." So we got the smarter AI and too many ships with EWAR. Why not wait until the whole thing is done?
Yeah ill admit that the EWAR issue has been cocked up a little but, and it wasnt implemented in an ideal way
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MainDrain
7th Deepari Defence Armada
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Posted - 2013.01.25 13:00:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Azitek wrote:
I dunno, it sounds like you're complaining about difficulty to me.
Concerning drones, it's beyond difficulty. 100% chance of death for them. That's an issue.
If you lose 100% of your drones you are doing it wrong! I will lose on average 2-3 small drones per day (that could be up to 6 hours running mission) Larger drones are more at Risk but you if you take out all the cruisers with guns and set the heavies on the BS you are generally ok. I tend to loose a few more of them per day than the smaller drones, but mainly thats due to lack of attention |
MainDrain
7th Deepari Defence Armada
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Posted - 2013.01.25 13:04:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:MainDrain wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Azitek wrote:
I dunno, it sounds like you're complaining about difficulty to me.
Concerning drones, it's beyond difficulty. 100% chance of death for them. That's an issue. If you lose 100% of your drones you are doing it wrong! I will lose on average 2-3 small drones per day (that could be up to 6 hours running mission) Larger drones are more at Risk but you if you take out all the cruisers with guns and set the heavies on the BS you are generally ok. I tend to loose a few more of them per day than the smaller drones, but mainly thats due to lack of attention Obviously you have not done Level IV missions lately. Battleships alone on a field will now target and destroy your Large Drones now long before they can get back to their bay. Eliminating frigs and cruisers stops nothing.
I run missions must week nights, always level 4s as well, it is not an issue i have noticed at all they may get targeted and even hit a few times while MWDing towards a target but once in orbit they never have issues. Perhaps increase your drone skills (durability and interfacing iirc) to make them last longer and hit harder. |
MainDrain
7th Deepari Defence Armada
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Posted - 2013.01.25 13:48:00 -
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I think the issue about taking new players into your mission is a fair one! we used to help people kill dagan, then let them join us for a couple of missions to boost their wallets and standings
Its not to much risk to bring them in |
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