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Khatred
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:03:00 -
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I find it hard to believe that it's client side since it affect several characters on different computers and in different locations.
I mean Pator - Korama is 16 jumps short and going in Jita (0.9) and safe is also 16 jumps and going in Niyabainen (1.0)? That's a sick joke.
Pator - Nonni safe or shor it's the same thing and goes into 0.3 - 0.4 when there is a safe passage trough Gallente border zone and The Citadel?
FFS, fix it.
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Ryy Kishin
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:11:00 -
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Harry MacDougal
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:12:00 -
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That might also be part of the remapping of the highway systems. They did say those were going to change, this might be how they were changed.
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:12:00 -
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MAte maybe u should read some patch notes, dev blogs, story line....u know SOMETHING?!
here let me help u.
Go to www.eve-i.com read all past 20 posts, that's not much mind u, but u may understand some things like COSMOS project, new world order, enlightment through readin....
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Lufio II
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:14:00 -
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The Autopilot nott beeing able to determine the safe route if there is one sounds like a bug, tho.
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Khatred
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Virgo I'Platonicus
MAte maybe u should read some patch notes, dev blogs, story line....u know SOMETHING?!
here let me help u.
Go to www.eve-i.com read all past 20 posts, that's not much mind u, but u may understand some things like COSMOS project, new world order, enlightment through readin....
ta-ta
How about you reading my post again and again and again?
I said that THERE IS A SAFE ROUTE, just that the autopilot doesn't find it. DOH!
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:24:00 -
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How do you know if there is a saferoute if AP cant find it? you must be a astreologist or something.
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jbob2000
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:25:00 -
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One of my corpmates has to do a 24 jumps round trip for some of his agent missions. WTF is thaT?
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Khatred
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
How do you know if there is a saferoute if AP cant find it? you must be a astreologist or something.
Pator - Nonni safe or shor it's the same thing and goes into 0.3 - 0.4 when there is a safe passage trough Gallente border zone and The Citadel?
Lacking reading comprehesion?
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Hakera
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:30:00 -
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clear your cache/machonet folder and your ap will work
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Khatred
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:35:00 -
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Nope, doesn't work, already had to clear the cache folder in order to be able to set buy/sell orders, did it again out of curiosity, I highly doubt is't a client side issue.
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Hci Triglava
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:37:00 -
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maybe i wasnt clear enough or some ppl just dont wanna read and have things cleared up. THERE ARE NO SAFE HIGHWAYS ANYMORE. There. I've said it. Read it and weep. Whine all u want. No highways. At least no safe highways. And we knew that'd happen almost 2 months in advance.
Happy? (i know u're not but anyway) happy?
ta-ta cu l8r
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Larno
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
How do you know if there is a saferoute if AP cant find it? you must be a astreologist or something.
Look for the system "Evuldgenzo". Then scan right and you will see there is a big void in space. Then scan left and for each jump line you pass over, check to see if a) it goes all the way to caldari space and b) it is safe. The only two safe routes to caldari space are through either A) Kaaputenen or B) Sivala. Then you can do the same for the other empires. The map is really simple to use. Just spend more than 60 seconds looking at it and you will understand.
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Oz Draconis
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:48:00 -
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I have the same problem. I've also cleaned out my cache directory. Manually, I can pick waypoints to force a safe route that takes about 10 more jumps. Why cant the autopilot also find that route? 5 Installations of Eve on 3 different machines and not one of them can find a safe route from Pator to Nonni. 
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LeKjart
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:27:00 -
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We are working on a new ui control in the client that will allow to tune the security rating 'tolerance' of the pathfinder, i.e. how strict it should be in enforcing security limits for 'prefer safe' and 'prefer unsafe' routes. In this way people can tune the paths according to their needs. This might be relased as a mini-patch at a suitable time, once it has cleared QA.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Hci Triglava
maybe i wasnt clear enough or some ppl just dont wanna read and have things cleared up. THERE ARE NO SAFE HIGHWAYS ANYMORE. There. I've said it. Read it and weep. Whine all u want. No highways. At least no safe highways. And we knew that'd happen almost 2 months in advance.
Happy? (i know u're not but anyway) happy?
ta-ta cu l8r
See above. There are. lalalala youre wrong, happy? i hope not ^-^ 
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:46:00 -
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*insert evil pirate laugh*
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.07.06 22:31:00 -
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Yeah I noticed it's pirate galore in those systems between the empires. Especially the so-called 'safe' AP route Yulai-Niyabanen is infested.
My alt even had the honor of running into Tank CEO testing out the new missiles. Good thing cruise missiles suck vs frigates now.
Seems as if the pie-wat crowd will have a busy week until people have made new sets of insta's and figured out the safe routes with help of the map.
Tip: put 'selection lines only' on, then filter on security status and find yourself a safe route. It's really easy you know...
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.07.06 22:32:00 -
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How can you tune the security rating considering 0.5 to 1.0 is "secure" and 0.1 to 0.4 is "unsecure"?
It's virtually a case of black and white and surely shouldn't be made "grey"?
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.07.06 22:40:00 -
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Well, I would think it may be possible to tell your AP to 'take the safe route, but if you can safe me 6 jumps by hopping through a single 0.3 system then go for it'.
Or something among those lines.
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Kadarin
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Posted - 2005.07.06 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
How can you tune the security rating considering 0.5 to 1.0 is "secure" and 0.1 to 0.4 is "unsecure"?
It's virtually a case of black and white and surely shouldn't be made "grey"?
What if your sec status is such that you can't enter 1.0 systems, but can get into .5?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.07.06 22:46:00 -
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That means every system is "unsecure" to you?
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Bombcrater
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Posted - 2005.07.06 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Khatred
I mean Pator - Korama is 16 jumps short and going in Jita (0.9) and safe is also 16 jumps and going in Niyabainen (1.0)? That's a sick joke.
You're actually quite lucky - my autopilot doesn't work at all. It reports every destination as unreachable, no matter what path-finding option is set.
If I'm sitting in Ibura and ask it to plot a route to Torrinos, which is one jump away, it refuses. This affects the market, too, where all items are reported to be 10000000 jumps away.
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Juniper
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Posted - 2005.07.07 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Bombcrater
Originally by: Khatred
I mean Pator - Korama is 16 jumps short and going in Jita (0.9) and safe is also 16 jumps and going in Niyabainen (1.0)? That's a sick joke.
You're actually quite lucky - my autopilot doesn't work at all. It reports every destination as unreachable, no matter what path-finding option is set.
If I'm sitting in Ibura and ask it to plot a route to Torrinos, which is one jump away, it refuses. This affects the market, too, where all items are reported to be 10000000 jumps away.
Try turning off 'Stay out of pod-kill zones'.
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Mitawyn
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Posted - 2005.07.07 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hci Triglava
maybe i wasnt clear enough or some ppl just dont wanna read and have things cleared up. THERE ARE NO SAFE HIGHWAYS ANYMORE. There. I've said it. Read it and weep. Whine all u want. No highways. At least no safe highways. And we knew that'd happen almost 2 months in advance.
Happy? (i know u're not but anyway) happy?
ta-ta cu l8r
Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! There are safe routes and we are finding them. Maybe you can't use the map or just don't want to make the effort, but they are there. Too bad the dunce of an AP can't find them.
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Lag Fest
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Posted - 2005.07.07 05:49:00 -
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The autopilot simply is not working correctly at this point in time when mapping routes. After getting some very odd results, I tested this a little more. Set destination for a next door system. Sat on the gate. Set destination to next door, the autopilot insisted I needed to go 16 jumps... changing options for shortest, safest, low sec, pod killing zone, etc, did not change a single thing. I'm having issues like this all over. It's not cache related, has been completely cleared repeatedly. This is a problem with the patch, and hopefully it gets addressed VERY SOON.
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Wear
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Posted - 2005.07.07 06:41:00 -
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This problem already existed long before this patch.
It happened already 2-3 patches ago that the auto pilot couldn't find the shortest way to some systems or even the safest but you could manually.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.07.07 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Well, I would think it may be possible to tell your AP to 'take the safe route, but if you can safe me 6 jumps by hopping through a single 0.3 system then go for it'.
Or something among those lines.
Unfortunately, that's exactly what it's doing right now, which is why the "safe route" setting isn't giving out the safe routes - at least not if they're around 3+ jumps longer than the unsafe one.
What it's probably doing is adding a "weight" to each jump depending on it's security status, so that the routefinder sees a low-sec jump as more costly than a high-sec one, and then searching for the route with the least weighted cost. Unfortunately, right now we have no control over that weighting, so we can't tune how averse it is to low-sec jumps.
LeKjart, assuming the weighting system is the one being used, would it be possible to let us adjust the weighting for each security level seperately, for ultimate AP flexibility? Then you could just have a set of presets for "safe only", "prefer safer", "prefer less safe", "unsafe only". Would also be really useful to have something in there that looked at your sec-status and faction standings and let you block out any systems where you'd get shot by the local navy, but that's probably far more complex to do.
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belzebub1
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:10:00 -
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I am getting the same problems, One system in my assets actually showed as being 1,000,000 jumps away LOL.
I am hoping they resolve this soon
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Chesty McJubblies
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
How do you know if there is a saferoute if AP cant find it? you must be a astreologist or something.
Yulai to Agil has no safe route according to AP. Stick in a waypoint at Grinacanne and there suddenly is a safe route.
Sarcasm 4tw, I guess.
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