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Verone
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Posted - 2005.07.07 09:23:00 -
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Bomb blasts?
Buses and stuff getting blown up?
Tube stations?
Casualties?
Half of london looks like it's getting Evac'd??
WTF?
Any of you guys down south got any more info that Sky news, who're flapping like tarts atm?
Looks pretty serious to me
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d'hofren
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Posted - 2005.07.07 09:36:00 -
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I am am sitting almost next door to it all.
The current story is that there was a power surge on at aldgate. No causualties and reports of "walking wounded"
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Jernau Gurgeh
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Posted - 2005.07.07 09:38:00 -
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Here comes the Iran war
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Akaviri
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Posted - 2005.07.07 09:44:00 -
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Wow, this sucks. I hope it wasn't a terrorist attack, but it looks that way.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 09:45:00 -
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I just got out of London and so far there has been 6 train station explosions and 3 busses.
London is now completely closed off and only emergency convoys are getting in.
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Xav Vorbarra
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Posted - 2005.07.07 09:46:00 -
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CNN just reported bomb blasts in London in the Underground and on Double Decker buses. The Underground has been shut down but they don't know about casualties yet.
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anister
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Posted - 2005.07.07 09:49:00 -
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A post i made on another forums, whats i know so far:
Causes not entirely sure, bombs have been thought to have been the cause but police have said explosions occured at:
Kings Cross, Old Street, Aldgate, Edgeware Road and Russell Square.
Early reports are suggesting at least 3 bombs on buses and related power surges.
*edit:
several fatalities confirmed.
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.07.07 09:51:00 -
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double decker bus was blown up, most lily people have died, 'bodies laying everywhere'
also a attack on the tube aswell,
only casulty reports, however i suspect soon for a death count to come in...
but it was perfect timing just after the announcement on the olympics :/
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FraNtik
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Posted - 2005.07.07 09:57:00 -
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Damn, deja vu. Sounds like the terrorist attacks in March 11th in Madrid last year. 
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A'de N'ahten
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Posted - 2005.07.07 09:58:00 -
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The news channels are running round like headless chickens - so not sure what the actual state of play is london-wide.
I live Just up the road from Liverpool Street and Loads of Sirens and stuff zooming past to the stations (moorgate and aldgate east which are also only a couple of mins away have incidents as well I believe).
But basically no idea what is actually going on.... is probably going to take a while for the news channels to calm down and stop trying to 'break news first' and actually report facts.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:00:00 -
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Seems there are two or three theories on it...
1) Some power surge on the underground took out Aldgate.
2) Some other underground 'explosions'* are at other tube stations.
3) Some buses might have popped.
*Explosions _could_ have been caused by bombs, but that's speculating.
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Kar Brogan
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:00:00 -
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I heard initially it was put down to a power surge, but now buses are being destroyed and power companies are reporting no problems.
I wonder who is going to claim responsibility for this? I wonder what level of retaliation will take place this time......
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:00:00 -
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At least 90 casualties at Aldgate station alone apparently
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: FraNtik
Smells like Al Qaeda, same MO like in Madrid last year...
Its election time in england already??
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anister
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: ApophisXP
This is sooo f'd up! tried calling my m8s down edgeware road and all lines busy
A lot of the mobile networks are fubared in london at the moment.
Latest reports are saying 5 bombs, not power surges, bombs.
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ApophisXP
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:09:00 -
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erm is it just my area in london(nw2) or majority of the mobile networks in london are down now?
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: ApophisXP
erm is it just my area in london(nw2) or majority of the mobile networks in london are down now?
Mobile, house phone 90% of the time cant get thru.
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Stogee
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:10:00 -
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Damn, im from just outside london, got friends who live n work in central london. They use the tube too. I hope everyone is ok.
I better make some calls.
And no I doubt its the Irish, the IRA are too f****** stupid to be able to pull of something like this.
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A'de N'ahten
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:11:00 -
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I think at the moment the news channels are just running with any rumours they can find.
This was apparent when interviewing an eye witness and the news presenter was saying 'apparently there were 2 explosions in russell square (in a bin and on a bus)' and the eye witness says 'no just the bus - no other explosions here.
Really they have a responsibility to at least try to deal with facts as best they can - not try to be the first with everyting.
I would rather wait half an hour and get decent reporting rather than watch half an hour of 'omg bombs here and there - oh no just here - but wait what about this - reports coming in about...... oh it's not there but here instead. lets now go live to some poor sod on his mobile who was in the train when the explosion happened and badger someone who's probably in shock for information they have no way of knowing..... Bob - was it a bomb or a train collision - I don't know i've never experienced either but I would guess it's a bomb'
They even said to one bloke after speaking to him for 5 mins - stay on the line while we got to this repoter becuase we want to speak to you again - and he had to say - sorry I can't hang around I've got to find my girlfriend who's waiting for me.
I can't help getting the feeling that the news channels get some kind of rush out of it - which is a bit ghoulish.
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anister
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:11:00 -
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Tony Blair hasn't said anything yet but the eu president has confirmed that this was an attack.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:13:00 -
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Not the Irish? Does anyone here REMEMBER the Docklands bomb?
Then again, since it has been shown that IRA splinter groups have worked with Al Quaeda before, how different is it? Just be careful if you send troops into Belfast please? I've got a great aunt living there...
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Bsport
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:13:00 -
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Edited by: Bsport on 07/07/2005 10:13:54
currently from the bbc
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0849 - Report of explosion on Metropolitan Line between Liverpool Street and Aldgate
Further explosions reported at Aldgate East, Edgware Road, King's Cross, Russell Square and Moorgate
Two Underground trains collide near King's Cross
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41276000/gif/_41276695_london_tube_map416.gif.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:14:00 -
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ryctor on 07/07/2005 10:15:59
Originally by: Stogee
And no I doubt its the Irish, the IRA are too f****** stupid to be able to pull of something like this.
I remember someone saying that back in 93 right before the PIRA almost took out the St Ethelburga's Bishopsgate church.  I wouldnt put it past them.
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:17:00 -
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Looking at it, it could have been alot worse.
Not good anyway, nobody deserves it. The only hope that you can take from things like this is that it helps awareness and vigilance to hopefully help prevent future attacks.
Little doubt it will happen again.
My sympathy goes to those involved, and the familys that will suffer.
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Joe
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:17:00 -
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The 'news flash' on Australian TV (channel 10) is that 2 trains in the tube crashed into eachother due to a power surge. no terriost involvement.
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A'de N'ahten
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:19:00 -
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No one is "too f'in stupid" to do anything.
They just need to be sufficiently pi$$ed off to act in this manner.
That kind of 'we're superior they're imbeciles attitude' doesn't help matters.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:19:00 -
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I would think its best to hold on our theories and snap judgements until the authorities (who have more intelligence resources than us) can find out whos responcible.
This is harsh, as a English bloke I'm furious and ofc my sympathy goes to anyone caught up in this world wide madness.
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shanii
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:19:00 -
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they think mobile phones where used as remotes so all the networks have been shut down 
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Stogee
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:20:00 -
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yeah and since all they've managed is faulty bombs that didnt go off and to be ripped apart by UKSF and British Intelligence.
Ive not heard about the IRA being linked to Al Quaeda. But you know that the IRA was and still is funded by American Citizens too? Who donate money knowing exactly whose its going to and what for.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:21:00 -
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It's just been confirmed by the govt/met that there are at least 20 dead.
dbp
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:22:00 -
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TBH, any old muppet can create an explosive device and stick a few of them on timers on trains. It's hardly McGuyver difficulty.
I would keep the IRA/Al Queda accusations down for now.
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:22:00 -
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Don't really know what to say about this. It's not a good thing, that much is true.
Best hopes for those affected by it. Not much more I can think to say.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:23:00 -
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Looking at the reports, the terrorist angle doesn't ring true.
Whatever caused this, a little planning could have added zeroes to the number of people involved. If it was planned then it was planned to only harm a limited number of people, which would certainly rule out Al Quaeda since they always go for bodycount first.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: shambley
yea A'de N'ahten couldn't agree more
Its a media feeding frenzy where sensationalism overides facts and they use viewpionts of people in shock as fact.
So far there are several buses reported blown up, only all reports are actualy of one bus that they are saying is in russel square or tavistock square when its actualy one bus as these places are next to each other and different reporters are calling it by a different name.
Not entirely.
The facts are coming direct from the government and the met office.
dbp
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Rath Amon
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:25:00 -
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damn even reuters.com is too busy  ...must...have...news
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Stogee
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:26:00 -
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20 deaths? I just saw a report of just 2.
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ElectroSister4
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:27:00 -
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im innocent!
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:28:00 -
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I saw 20 hospitalised.
However, remembering previous British reporting, I suggest nobody pay too much attention to the numbers. They're most likely massaged to sell papers.
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: ElectroSister4
im innocent!
Christ grow the **** up.
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A'de N'ahten
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: shambley
yea A'de N'ahten couldn't agree more
Its a media feeding frenzy where sensationalism overides facts and they use viewpionts of people in shock as fact.
So far there are several buses reported blown up, only all reports are actualy of one bus that they are saying is in russel square or tavistock square when its actualy one bus as these places are next to each other and different reporters are calling it by a different name.
Not entirely.
The facts are coming direct from the government and the met office.
dbp
Not when I was watching - it was a shambles. They even said on news 24 that there had been no official statement from the government yet (i'm guessing but I think this was at about 10 or 10.30 ish)
Also see post below yours about fatalities.... they all usually have different running totals until about 24 hours after an incident.
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Cypherous
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:31:00 -
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Quote:
Loyita Worley, who works for a City law firm, said she was on the underground train when an explosion took place in the next carriage, while it was in a tunnel.
The 49-year-old said: "All the lights went out and the train came to an immediate halt. There was smoke everywhere and everyone was coughing and choking, but remained calm. We couldn't open the doors."
Once the doors were opened they were taken along to Liverpool Street station.
She said the carriage where an explosion happened was "black on the inside" she saw people who appeared to have their clothes blown off, and she saw bodies lying inside the carriage.
Damn this is bad :(
And to think i went through one of the bombed stations only an hour before it happened, my sympathies go out to the friends and family of anyone injured :(
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Chi Chianka
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:33:00 -
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my isk is on an anachist group making a point regarding the G8 summit
who knows but as eris said lets keep it clean and not go pointing the finger until the experts have been in!
for now lets keep it real, real facts, real figures, real locations and NO speculation.
and on a second note our hearts and minds go out to the victims. Im sure yours all do to?
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:33:00 -
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Edited by: corporal hicks on 07/07/2005 10:34:06
Originally by: FireFoxx80
TBH, any old muppet can create an explosive device and stick a few of them on timers on trains. It's hardly McGuyver difficulty.
I would keep the IRA/Al Queda accusations down for now.
Agree completly, I am watching it unfold myself on Sky at present, a terrible thing, throwing around wild speculations while only on this forum will only cause hard feelings. We as a Community are shocked and that Community is made of many nationalities be its Irish/English or whatever and trying to speculate that one group or another might have done it is pointless.
For matters as regards the Irish been mentioned and the IRA, all I can say is I am Irish and the Irish people are as appauled by this as anyone else. Now stop speculating and pointing fingers and guessing before you offend someone.
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Specture
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:33:00 -
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my hat is off to the brits, and all the calualties to this accident or attack
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:34:00 -
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Took an hour and a half to get through to my father on the phone, thankfully fine. Complete chaos atm with the phonelines.
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A'de N'ahten
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: A''de N''ahten on 07/07/2005 10:35:31
Originally by: Chi Chianka
who knows but as eris said lets keep it clean and not go pointing the finger until the experts have been in!
for now lets keep it real, real facts, real figures, real locations and NO speculation.
and on a second note our hearts and minds go out to the victims. Im sure yours all do to?
Exactly - seconded
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Captain Rod
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:38:00 -
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Come on ccp get TQ up and running to take our minds off things, Mr BLiar being E.U. President soon plus winning the olympic bid and hosting the G8, we are donkey target no.1.
Modulate tq shield harmonics for impact. Power to shields and all that. 
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Dragothmar
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:39:00 -
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Edited by: Dragothmar on 07/07/2005 10:40:56
latest: Army's been deployed according to SKY
I hope there aren't going to be many casualties, terrible stuff
Best wishes to everyone out there...
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:41:00 -
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if you are ingame join channel eve chat if you have any up to date info please.
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:44:00 -
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Edited by: Weeman on 07/07/2005 10:47:59
Ok hopefully i can clear up a few things just from looking at the situation, i dont work in the home office or anything :P
The mobile networks going down - probably due to overloading and everyone calling in/out making sure friends and family are ok.
Bombs in bins - not hugely likely, in case some people havent been to london after the 80's there arent a lot of bins in central london anymore after the IRA stuck one outside harrods.
The area around Liverpool street station seems to be the most badly affected area of general chaos. Reported explosions on the tube initally said to have been caused by a power surge has been denied by the National Grid (which distributes power to everywhere in england and wales not sure about scotland) which say that didnt happen.
As people rushed out of the stations and onto busses the top deck of a bus exploded causing large amounts of devestation - ripped the top deck off basically. Given thats what happened theres bound to be fatalities even though they havent been confirmed yet.
North london resembles baghdad atm :/
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Mikesnail
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:46:00 -
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I currently cannot access a television, and so i will not be able to watch the statement that tony blair will make shortly.
Would someone be kind enough to write a breakdown of what is said in that statement once it has been aired.
I would really appreciate that.
My thoughts go out to anyone who is affected by this.
Thankyou.
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dethanor
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:52:00 -
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i cannot get my head around all this.
it makes me feel sick to my stomach.
a lot of my friends live and work in london.
a lot of my friends commute daily to london and hearing about the kings x blast especially just twists my insides.
we live in a very sad world and it is things like this that make us realise this.
i am not a religious man but i will pray anyways hoping all are ok
There is no art more beautiful nor diverse than the art of death!!!
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Garric Vor'g
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: dethanor
i cannot get my head around all this.
it makes me feel sick to my stomach.
a lot of my friends live and work in london.
a lot of my friends commute daily to london and hearing about the kings x blast especially just twists my insides.
we live in a very sad world and it is things like this that make us realise this.
i am not a religious man but i will pray anyways hoping all are ok
There is no art more beautiful nor diverse than the art of death!!!
Makes you think about your sig, doesn't it. I've said this b4 to co-workers and they laughed. But really, why do men feel they can justify death??
I know that's a line from the Patriot, but it fits none the less. If only people would learn to agree to disagree and to care for someone other than themselves the world wouldn't have 1/4 of the problems it does today...
Best wishes/hopes to those in London
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:57:00 -
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The radio is more up-to-date with the news than the websites, but I don't have a radio here, only the one in the next room muffled through the wall.
But I just heard "under control" and "coordinated attack on london"
Blair apparentely to make a statement at noon, so in 5 mins.
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Meehan
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:57:00 -
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Can someone clarify to a non-native whether casualty means fatality or just victim?
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
... but personally I want to get as much information as possible right now.
And I sympathise - so do I - but the vast majority of "information" coming out right now is speculation. Nobody knows anything for sure yet. That's what the networks should be telling you.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Meehan
Can someone clarify to a non-native whether casualty means fatality or just victim?
Usually fatality.
dbp
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Meehan
Can someone clarify to a non-native whether casualty means fatality or just victim?
Strictly speaking, it means anyone hurt. The news companies tend to refer to casualties rather than fatalities, because it makes the numbers sound more spectacular.
Hospital fellow is on BBC24 right now. Apparently "over a hundred casualties", but only seven of those are critically ill; most are just slightly burnt or got knocked down by the blast. The last I heard, there are only two known deaths.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Meehan
Can someone clarify to a non-native whether casualty means fatality or just victim?
Usually fatality.
dbp
Casualty is not the same as fatality.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:09:00 -
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Stay safe ppl in London, hope you all are ok.
Regards C4w3.
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Cypherous
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:09:00 -
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Tony blair has said that it was terrorists and that he will be coming back down to london although he wants the G8 conference to continue in his absense, all london transport is stopped and they are saying not to call any of the emergency services.
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Mikesnail
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: DaRuLe
Edited by: DaRuLe on 07/07/2005 11:10:15
Edited by: DaRuLe on 07/07/2005 11:08:59
Edited by: DaRuLe on 07/07/2005 11:08:01
Originally by: Mikesnail
I currently cannot access a television, and so i will not be able to watch the statement that tony blair will make shortly.
Would someone be kind enough to write a breakdown of what is said in that statement once it has been aired.
I would really appreciate that.
My thoughts go out to anyone who is affected by this.
Thankyou.
Short transcibe of what Blair said: (English is not my native language, so i had to leave out bits and pieces..)
Blair:
Quote:
Reasonably clear a series of terrorist atacks, obviously casualties.
My intention to leave the G8 and get down to London.
Return later this evening.
Meeting will continue in his absence, and reach the conclusions they where going to reach.
It is barbaric that this has happenend on a day where they try to resolve problems in Africa and ....
Important for those that engage in terrorism, to realize that we defend our values and ways of live, which is greater than their way of life of destruction. It is our determination that they will never succeed...
It was a very short statement by the way.
Thankyou DaRule that was most appreciated.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:14:00 -
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i hope all eve players in london area are ok.
the "terrorists" are only going to loose even more now as this will bond the people of the world together more and people of the free world will commit even greater forces to combat the terrorists.
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Ja'kar
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ja''kar on 07/07/2005 11:15:47
There is pic of the bus with its roof blown off- they saying there was no survivors, been through with IRA, I just don't go into London now.
ItÆs the peoples family I feel sorry for...
A victim on interview said "these people deserve pity"
6 blast in total-
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Sherkaner
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:15:00 -
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Temp sticky
My feelings go out to everyone affected in London 
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DaRuLe
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mikesnail
Thankyou DaRule that was most appreciated.
You're welcome.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: corporal hicks
(( the Offend someone bit is Directed at all the people mentioning different groups not at Firefoxx ))
Ta.
On a lighter note. There was a quote on one of the news sites, I cen't remember the exact page, but I will paraphrase:
"Many people are wondering around panicking, some are casualties, whilst others are just annoyed."
Good to see London hasn't been changed.
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mms://wmlive.bbc.net.uk/wms/news/now3_bb_s1
Live BBC feed if anyone wants to find out more. The BBC at least seem to be staying calm and not going crazy on rumours.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:18:00 -
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I am stil in a state of shock. This is so close to home. I know I should be used to it after years of the IRA campaign, but to be honest, nothing makes it easier to live with.
I just don't know what to say
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ApophisXP
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Albus
mms://wmlive.bbc.net.uk/wms/news/now3_bb_s1
Live BBC feed if anyone wants to find out more. The BBC at least seem to be staying calm and not going crazy on rumours.
Thank you for posting this stream link
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Keyes on 07/07/2005 11:27:59
Sadly to say, but it was always only a matter time until the UK experienced terrorist attacks
Whats worse are people who make jokes in a situation like this, on another forum i use (non EVE related) some people started posting things like "I hope they dont cancel Neighbours" and other generally sick things making fun of it. Its bad enough that we have people in the world willing to do dispicable acts like this, but we dont need our own people taking the **** out of it all when people are dead and dying in our nations capital.
I'm british but thankfully live over 100 miles from London. But my prayers go out to all those affected in London.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:27:00 -
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I already apologised for bringing it to the wrong forum and got my head bitten of for :(. This has effected me more than you know. I don't frequent the out of pod forum enough to remember it's there, esepsiacally now. I cant phone my family, trains wont take me to London right now, I'm stuck here, alone and very very worried right now.
A lot of people are going through the same right now. The best we can do is be supportivein the best way that we can.
I'll keep wacthing the news, reading here. I cant do anything more than twiddle my thumbs right now.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: sycokill
Edited by: sycokill on 07/07/2005 11:25:50
i seriously can't belive this has happened, but i can't say that i never thought it would happen. last time i checked on thenews i heard there were 20 deaths and 90 injured,these numbers are unconfirmed so there maybe more.
The latest "official" count still only lists two deaths. There will most probably be more; some will die of their injuries.
One of the more ghoulish aspects of these occasions is when the news agencies compete among themselves to report the most number of deaths.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Keyes
Whats worse are people who make jokes in a situation like this...
Using humour to deflect from a tragedy has always been an English trait. You'd be amazed how many sick jokes come out at funerals, for example.
The English, on the whole, don't do strong emotions very well. Easier to be flippant and cover things over with a joke.
This is much distinct from people not directly affected making jokes out of what's happened, which *is* sick. I'm not sure to which type of person you refer.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:30:00 -
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Most of London seem to be more calm than expected. People aren't going about their own business as usual i wouldn't say, but there's no anarchy or frenzy or public events making the public seem as if they're in a disarray. The most shocking thing if anything would be that the streets are empty of personal transport and of normal people. Most activity on the ground at London is emergency services.
Most of Central London is practically paralysed with the entire London Underground (the Metro system) being suspended and all bus services within London so most commuters wont be able to make it in.
Casualties are reaching the 100-200 area with one of the larger hospitals in london taking in around 95 people including patients on critical status.
This comes in a crucial time because in London there has been a massive hype for the G8 and the millienium project to relieve poverty in Africa. From the live8 concerts occuring and the programs on the BBC providing larger public awareness. Such important issues will be shifted out of proportion with issues of terrorism and a stepped up priority on anti-terrorism and military. It is hoped that such issues will not be dwarfed and that all issues will be treated with the attention that demands it.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:31:00 -
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just got through to my m8 in edgeware road, seems like theres another explosion there
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Delgado Isai
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:31:00 -
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My and my comrades sympathies go out to people in london, also I live in Brighton and we've had our station evacuated and croydon and swindon are meant to be supposed targets. Stay safe people.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Matthias Ungabii
I'm shaking here...my mum went down to London with work earlier, can't get a hold of her. I don't and can't understand these kind of actions.
Heart goes out to everyone and anyone affected.
feel for you man, hope your mums okay. my fater was meant to go in, but hes off in bristol I think. I know some peopl who work there, wont know till tonight if their okay, this is just unbelievable you know? and heard a short thing suggesting al qaeda may be involved, any more known on that front?
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:32:00 -
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I just woke up to this...I have it on BBC 1 now....& explosions, 6 on the tube, 1 on a bus.
2 death confirmed. I don't live In london but I chill still went through my spine when I woke up, turned on the TV an saw "LONDON BLASTS" all over the TV screen.
I just hope the bastards who did this get caught.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:34:00 -
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Thing is, we all knew this was a matter of when, not if.
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Admiral Keyes
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Admiral Keyes
Whats worse are people who make jokes in a situation like this...
This is much distinct from people not directly affected making jokes out of what's happened, which *is* sick. I'm not sure to which type of person you refer.
Sorry, i refered to the people who are not directly affected by the events cause they live elsewhere.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Stogee
Thing is, we all knew this was a matter of when, not if.
And I think that is the saddest part of all.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:36:00 -
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UK is getting weak, and it saddens me. We let a guy like that fanatic Hook guy, preach his hatred on the streets of London.... we house him for free, we pay all his benefits for free.... hell we even paid for their transport cars and free hospil treatment.
But we still let people like this stay here and organise these awfull terrible crimes. If they hate England so much, then why are people like the fanatics (and only the known ones) allowed to stay here to spread their evil.
Back in the days they would have been hung for treason. I pray that there are no more casualties and that my friends and family that live in the area are safe.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:39:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Sam Spacey
But we still let people like this stay here and organise these awfull terrible crimes. If they hate England so much, then why are people like the fanatics (and only the known ones) allowed to stay here to spread their evil.
This isn't really the place, but ... one of the great strengths of a liberal democracy - and also one of its weaknesses - is that it allows people to live within it who are actively campaigning for its downfall.
Provided they stay within the law, of course. Incitement to commit atrocities remains a crime. There, we in the UK should be enforcing the law a bit more strictly, I agree.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:40:00 -
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Damn wish the mobile phone network would start working again there a loads of people I care about in london
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Dante Chusuk
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Using humour to deflect from a tragedy has always been an English trait. You'd be amazed how many sick jokes come out at funerals, for example.
The English, on the whole, don't do strong emotions very well. Easier to be flippant and cover things over with a joke.
This is much distinct from people not directly affected making jokes out of what's happened, which *is* sick. I'm not sure to which type of person you refer.
Agreed Baldour, I have a friend in Wales (currently at home and in game as well b******) whose brother is almost on top of where all this is happening (I'm just to the south of it all) and couldn't get through on the mobile and I was trying to find out contact details for where his bro works when he comes up with
"Oh and ask him if it is raining there if you get through ...oops dark British humour coming through".
Yes we Brits aren't too big on emotions and try to cover them with a cynical humour where possible.
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Exhorder
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:42:00 -
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Perhaps the fact that terrorists can set off at least SEVEN separate explosions is a strong sign that we as a country need to seriously start focusing a lot harder on protecting our people from this kind of terrorist attack... This also accents the fact that Great Britain has a lot of these terrorist sympathisers already in our country and that they need to be dealt with, pronto.
My best wishes go out to anyone who has been a victim of this chaos, take care guys.
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sam Spacey
UK is getting weak, and it saddens me. We let a guy like that fanatic Hook guy, preach his hatred on the streets of London.... we house him for free, we pay all his benefits for free.... hell we even paid for their transport cars and free hospil treatment.
But we still let people like this stay here and organise these awfull terrible crimes. If they hate England so much, then why are people like the fanatics (and only the known ones) allowed to stay here to spread their evil.
Back in the days they would have been hung for treason. I pray that there are no more casualties and that my friends and family that live in the area are safe.
Agreed. If the goverment doesn't do something about Hamza soon, Someone is going to lynch him...
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Bomb blasts?
Buses and stuff getting blown up?
Tube stations?
Casualties?
Half of london looks like it's getting Evac'd??
WTF?
Any of you guys down south got any more info that Sky news, who're flapping like tarts atm?
Looks pretty serious to me
I live in Wimbledon.
LOTS of sirens and police flapping about all over. Trains stopped etc.
Very sad indeed
This is going to have pretty long lasting implications.
I can't think the culprits will ever get away with this. CCTV is on every building in those parts of town and on most of the busses in "the City" area.
I hope their nadgers get lopped off with a rusty blade.
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ApophisXP
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:48:00 -
[92]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: ApophisXP
just got through to my m8 in edgeware road, seems like theres another explosion there
Are you hearing anything else? Alot of the msg boards are saying there has been more explosions but they have locked down all media reporting for the minute to curtail panic.
dbp
ill post on anything i get but at the moment the mobiles gone down again and the sound of sirens is deafning
really hope everyone is ok....real smack in the face this is for me and alot of people
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:48:00 -
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yeah but my mates gf is in edgeware rd. He spoke to her about 20 minutes ago and now can't get through. Needless to say we want to know wtf is going on. Obviously with an confirmed rumour going out like this will cause everyone to phone and cause problems with the phone networks which is why I was asking him if he had heard anything more.
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Exhorder
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:48:00 -
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Yes, it's hard enough to decipher any sort of sense out of situations like these without the constant rumours and hearsay. I'd just take what BBC News is saying as closest we can get to actual truth for the time being. 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:48:00 -
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Looking at the pictures of the buses, I cant imagine many people surviving. They was opened up like a tin can.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Looks like a coordinated series of planted bombs in cars or planted inside the tubes/buses.
Probably carried in suitcases by suicide bombers.
That would be my first impression, but if there really are only two casualties from seven explosions, that doesn't add up.
Of course, they may not have found the other bodies yet; but from my experience of the London Underground, it's way too damn easy to leave a suitcase behind even when you didn't want to. There's really no reason to blow yourself up in order to achieve this.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:49:00 -
[97]
Originally by: ApophisXP
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: ApophisXP
just got through to my m8 in edgeware road, seems like theres another explosion there
Are you hearing anything else? Alot of the msg boards are saying there has been more explosions but they have locked down all media reporting for the minute to curtail panic.
dbp
ill post on anything i get but at the moment the mobiles gone down again and the sound of sirens is deafning
really hope everyone is ok....real smack in the face this is for me and alot of people
thanks.
dbp
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:49:00 -
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just a note for those of you watching bbc and whose native language is not english, it is bbc policy to differentiate between casualties (wounded) and fatalities (dead).
i'd just like to add that me and my coworkers shocked, sympathies to all affected by this. stay safe people.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:49:00 -
[99]
Hope my dad is ok, i cant get through to him on the phone
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Laythun
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:49:00 -
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at least 15 fatalities
kings cross station is the worse. double digit fatalities
aldgate, russel sq, edgeware
ffs we under attack
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:50:00 -
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One of my corp mates maintains the signals on the underground. We're all just hoping he's ok as he was probably at work right now.
Thoughts go out to all the families.
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jukriamrr
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: ApophisXP
not trying to be funny and all but got guys outside my place here saying its the french cause they lost the olympic bid
How come people be so low-IQ'ed...
Thinking thing like this at a time like this is... well..
I'm French and profundly mourn over this attack. Above all, I'm scared of what might happen in 2012 when the Olympics take place in London. Oh Boy ...
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ophiuchus3000
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:51:00 -
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BBC news has just reported that Al Qaeda have owned up to this bombing. Blair is coming back to London today for a meeting with the goverment officials and then will be heading back to the G8 this evening.
On a personal note I can't hold of a friend in London :( All mobile phone networks have shut down the london area as their networks can't handle the strain of the amount of txt messages and phone calls, so if anyone is trying to get hold of someone there, try and be patient.
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Stogee
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:51:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Looks like a coordinated series of planted bombs in cars or planted inside the tubes/buses.
Probably carried in suitcases by suicide bombers.
That would be my first impression, but if there really are only two casualties from seven explosions, that doesn't add up.
Of course, they may not have found the other bodies yet; but from my experience of the London Underground, it's way too damn easy to leave a suitcase behind even when you didn't want to. There's really no reason to blow yourself up in order to achieve this.
Thing is, why attack those stations then? Why not target Victoria tube station, that place is so packed they wouldnt even be able to catch you on CCTV or spot a suitcase left behind?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:52:00 -
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Got through to my mates gf, there are 0 ppl on the street and she's not seen anymore emergency services entering the area in about 20mins and no more explosions as far as she is aware.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:52:00 -
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Quote:
Sadly to say, but it was always only a matter time until the UK experienced terrorist attacks
Those of us who are over 20 will well remember IRA attacks on mainland Britain.
As a journalist it is interesting to see people's reaction to the media, basically all news media relies on wire reports, something like this happening throws that equation out the window - Reuters et al need 2 independent witnesses to verify something before they broadcast it, to keep their credability.
Now the likelihood is there are journalists stuck in the middle of this so you get all sorts of reports and especially TV/Radio require reaction hence asking dazed people things.
Sadly in a 24 hour news environment basically all you get is wild speculation, it is the printed media that has the time to sit back and analyse.
As for the media being ghoulish well who is the ghoul, the one who reports what happens or the one that is desperate for that information. In essence a journalist's job is only to report what is going on, people are desperate for info on what happened in London hence someone has to report it.
Although I will concede that there are those that get carried away, in many cases this is because today will be a career defining day for a handful of them.
At its best the media is a great profession as long as it is responsible, at its worst it is downright scaremongering.
Oh and radio always will be quicker than any medium, it is the most 'pure' of all media because all you require is a voice = it's the fastest medium.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: mirel yirrin on 07/07/2005 11:56:10
Charles clarke is just making a speech in Parliment now..
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:58:00 -
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Ok Sky News say that a European cell of al Qaeda (sp?) has claimed "credit" for this.
Also I remember the IRA incidents in Town.
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Dragothmar
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:59:00 -
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Can't get through to anyone yet, really worried about some friends... :(
And I've got like 5 are you ok texts I can't reply to... ARG, damn I hate worrying people...
Well to all fellow londoners out there: at least there's actually a reason for the tube not working today . And damn I hope that there aren't many deaths from this - Wishful thinking I know
I would like to swear more, but the profanity filter would make it pointless...
FFS I just can't express anything atm, everything seems screwed up, this is where a lot of us live! WTF is up with this?
Quitting before I start throwing stuff around the room with frustration.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: Exhorder on 07/07/2005 12:00:41
Originally by: Dante Chusuk
Ok Sky News say that a European cell of Al Qaeda has claimed "credit" for this.
Like I mentioned earlier, in UK our enemy is within as well as abroad
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Stogee
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Posted - 2005.07.07 11:59:00 -
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I keep flicking to certain channels and it seems some are only concerned about the price of oil dropping?
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Santiago Cortes
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:01:00 -
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Let's keep this simple, keep the speculation to a minimum and post a link to your source.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:02:00 -
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i herd that a suiside bomber was shot by police at canrey warf.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:02:00 -
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Just remember, statistically there have been very few fatalities. There are a lot of walking wounded though.
People with loved ones and friends in London, I know it is hard, but be patient. The chances are, everyone you know is ok.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:02:00 -
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I hope everyone's ok.
My father only left london yesterday... my thoughts and heart go to all those involved.
This sucks.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Stogee
Thing is, why attack those stations then? Why not target Victoria tube station, that place is so packed they wouldnt even be able to catch you on CCTV or spot a suitcase left behind?
it looks like theyve attacked the business district. all those stations feed centrall london with workers.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:03:00 -
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I know it's near impossible to avoid in London but this is one reason I'm not keen on public transprt
Fortunately so far the number of fatalities seem low and the emergency services seem well organised.
Seems like the classic "wait until attention is elsewhere" tactic what with the G8 in progress up in Scotland. Hope they get those responsible, shame we only lock people up these days
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: Dante Chusuk on 07/07/2005 12:06:40
Edited by: Dante Chusuk on 07/07/2005 12:05:24
Didn't want to post again but can't edit my own post, apparently doesn't belong to me
Our engineers are currently working up in London and as far as I know one team still has not checked in (though so far most have had the sense to ask the building manager/security to use a landline). One team is near Aldgate/Liverpool Street but they have checked in after being asked to leave the roof due to a suspect package outside the building at ground level.
Edit: As Santiago requested Sky News article. Fact that it was a European cell was a from a friend watching BBC News 24 on Freeview.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dragothmar
Well to all fellow londoners out there: at least there's actually a reason for the tube not working today .
Case in point. In England - and in London probably more so than anywhere else - the natural reaction to horrifying events, is black humour. It's a trait I've come to find quite endearing.
London will remain closed for the day, and by extension, most of the south of England (they all seem to work in the City these days).
It seems clear that, whoever is responsible, causing deaths has not been their primary aim. (They didn't go for Victoria, Waterloo...) Rather they've set out to paralyse the City for the day; in which they were bound to succeed. The question is how do we react to it.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:05:00 -
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just saw a chinook from a nearby military base pass over in london direction, thought i should mention.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:06:00 -
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Just a quick comment:
My Real Life job is military Emergency Management, which is VERY similar to civil Emergency Management, especially sense 911.
In an incident like this, initially no one, not the government, not the Emergency Responders, not even the bad guys, have really accurate information.
Takes a while to get solid information, even for folks who's job it is to deal with this sort of thing. Give it a few hours before you trust any info (although you must operate with the info you have, which you must remember is not reliable.....), and be ready for that info to continue to have moderate revisions.
The first thing the response focuses on is controling the incident. If a building is burning, and the fire dept responds, when they arrive, their immediate actions are "in response" to the fire. They are reacting to it. But as the fire fighters work, they gain "control" of the situation, and it starts responding to them. That moment when responders are no longer "reacting", but are forcing the incident to respond to their actions is magic. As soon as you reach that moment, the thread of lose of life, or even major property damage drops dramaticly. Its harder and touchier to make human opponents react to you, but the same principle applies.
Best thing to do is let em work and don't second guess em the next day. They second guess themselves the next day, professionally.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:06:00 -
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I'm amazed that there is confusion about who is behind this! Who the hell else blows up subways and buses? Canadians?! Come on people, take a wild guess...
I give my condolences to the UK. What they did to you is really ****ty and as an American, I share in your pain.
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belzebub1
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:07:00 -
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For those who can not contact people in London the mobile phone networks were shut down. I have also heard that another bomb was found in Brighton.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:08:00 -
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Blame canadaaa
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:08:00 -
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hmmm...
received two text messages from one of my icelandic corp mates...
1) Are you ok?
2) Are the eve-servers ok?
Priorities?
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ophiuchus3000
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:09:00 -
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I was raised in the forces had have been subejct to mortar bombings from the IRA. I totally understand the pain felt by people in London at the moment.
I'm a web based jouralist Santiago Cortes, so I perfectly understand what your saying. I have some contacts in the BBC at the moment and reports are that a cell in France has owned up to this, but like always with this kind of thing, lots of different types of nutters put their hands up. So it's unlikely, like you say, that real details won't come out until press prints hard copies tomorrow. Swollowing my frosites tomorrow morning is going to be hard :(
*if there are typos put it down to a tremor in my hands, still cant get hold of a friend in the area
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:10:00 -
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Another sad day when terrorists inflict pain upon innocents.
Got friends and family down there who I can't seem to get hold off, although as mentioned above mobile networks have been shut down.
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Amaron Ghant
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:11:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Admiral Keyes
Edited by: Admiral Keyes on 07/07/2005 11:27:59
Sadly to say, but it was always only a matter time until the UK experienced terrorist attacks
Dude how old are you?. Do these names mean anything to you? IRA, PIRA, INLA, Red Hand Commando, UVF, UDA, UFF ?? UK has been experiencing terrorist attacks since just after the First World War.
Unfortunately due to the way a modern democratic society works, it¦s all to easy now for a terrorist cell to plot, plan and carry out an attack. They only have to be lucky once. We have to be lucky all the time.
The war on terrorism didn¦t start on 9/11, it¦s been going on in Europe for at least 50 years. There¦s not an active Regiment in the British Army that hasn¦t lost someone to the bombs and bullets of terrorists.
I¦ll make a prediction for you...... When they sift through the video footage and identify the murdering scum responsible, I bet some of them are known to the Intelligence agencies, some will be illegals, and quite a few will be claiming benefits and unemployment.
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Touk
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:11:00 -
[129]
in respect to the chinnok flying over head....ive had a army up bringing...i was living in osnabruke when the ira attacked all those years ago and it was common procedure then, as im sure it is now for all military installations to be put on high alert in order to back up the emergancy services if needed.
After all the army/air force and navy are 2nd only to the NHS when it comes to medical facilities available.
im sure all the emergancy services are doing the very best they can...this is what thye are trined for...although no one likes to think about it
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Amarr knight
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:13:00 -
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Wont go into any speculation.
I just hope the people from uk are ok. Hope the casualty numbers stay down. Kinda worried abt some of my corp mates.
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Angel Alita
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:13:00 -
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Up until the end of last year, I was commuting into London, Liverpool St. then traveling by tube. I spent some time this morning getting in touch with old colleagues and friends, most of them seem ok.
Like many UK residents, I remember the attacks by the IRA on this country (harrods, brighton), and missed a railway station bomb by 24 hours, and heard another go off in my home town. Bomb scares, etc, used to be a fact of life.
I dont think we will hear the full story of this until much later today. So far, we are getting rumour, speculation, and hearsay.
I hope everyones loved ones / freinds / etc are alright.
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ophiuchus3000
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:13:00 -
[132]
Just got hold of my friend in London, hes fine \o/ Phew!
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: The Praetor
I'm amazed that there is confusion about who is behind this! Who the hell else blows up subways and buses? Canadians?! Come on people, take a wild guess...
There have been about 20 such attacks in London by Irish terrorists and about none by Islamist terrorists.
So that makes two suspects, both equally likely.
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Bawldeux IV
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:14:00 -
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My best wishes to all involved, and simpathy to those families and friends that where harmed or taken from us.
I can only hope those responsible are brought to justice.
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:14:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Amaron Ghant
Originally by: Admiral Keyes
Edited by: Admiral Keyes on 07/07/2005 11:27:59
Sadly to say, but it was always only a matter time until the UK experienced terrorist attacks
Dude how old are you?. Do these names mean anything to you? IRA, PIRA, INLA, Red Hand Commando, UVF, UDA, UFF ?? UK has been experiencing terrorist attacks since just after the First World War.
Unfortunately due to the way a modern democratic society works, it¦s all to easy now for a terrorist cell to plot, plan and carry out an attack. They only have to be lucky once. We have to be lucky all the time.
The war on terrorism didn¦t start on 9/11, it¦s been going on in Europe for at least 50 years. There¦s not an active Regiment in the British Army that hasn¦t lost someone to the bombs and bullets of terrorists.
I¦ll make a prediction for you...... When they sift through the video footage and identify the murdering scum responsible, I bet some of them are known to the Intelligence agencies, some will be illegals, and quite a few will be claiming benefits and unemployment.
yup quite a few of them were probably let into this country by the current goverment and their lax border contols
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LORDRICKSTER
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:16:00 -
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I wish the best to all of you over there in london..........keep cool.........Myself and my family live in New York, I know what your going through
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Santiac
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:16:00 -
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Not that any of these sort of attacks have any "valid" purpose, nothing can justify them, but if al-qaeda did this as they say they did, why attack one of the citys in the world, that holds most immigrants and is more open then most?
I can't help but shake the thought that in their statement they reminded Denmark and Italy of their warning to them aswell, so much hate they must harbour.
Whatever it's worth, my deepest sympathies go out to those with friends, family, or anyone they know missing in london, i can only hope for you that your worries will be proven wrong.
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Touk
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:16:00 -
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its an unfortunate truth.....the scumbags that did this WILL have claimed some kind of benefit from the state of some kind....or atleast some of them.....
with the UK's open door policy on immigrants its enevitable that we will attract the kinds of ppl who wish this county only harma dn suffering.
this is another very sad day for the human race....just goes to show what some of our numbers are capable of....i hate, as im sure everyone else does. that we have this link to these kinda ppl.
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Wraith Hunter
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Wraith Hunter on 07/07/2005 12:18:09
so far the local news conferms 7 explostions but they are keeping the death toll quite, there are euro fighters flying out from brize norton airbase in oxfordshire and the country are on high alert, we were very lucky my mother missed it by 10 mins she was on the train infrount of the one wich had the bomber on it , my best gose out to you all  |
Dragothmar
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Dragothmar
Well to all fellow londoners out there: at least there's actually a reason for the tube not working today .
Case in point. In England - and in London probably more so than anywhere else - the natural reaction to horrifying events, is black humour. It's a trait I've come to find quite endearing.
Sorry if that offended anyone btw, I think I'm going to go barmy soon in any case - you never realize how many people you care about until you scroll through your phonebook and find you can't text anyone - I'm sure they're ok though. Damn:/
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
London will remain closed for the day, and by extension, most of the south of England (they all seem to work in the City these days).
It seems clear that, whoever is responsible, causing deaths has not been their primary aim. (They didn't go for Victoria, Waterloo...) Rather they've set out to paralyse the City for the day; in which they were bound to succeed. The question is how do we react to it.
That's a very good question: what do you do? What should you be feeling?
Fecked if I know - Kind of sad and ****ed off at the same time right here...
*Wesside?*
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
I don't think our precious Eve servers are in that part of London.
Edit: Though I imagine the network infrastructure may be getting a bit of a beating.
Edit 2: I imagine DT might be extended though.
Oveur has just posted in EVE general; DT was going to be extended today anyway, as it happens, for extra database stuff. It's apparently not related to the events in London.
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EXZODIER
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:18:00 -
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A terror group linked to al Qaeda has claimed it carried out a series of terror attacks on London that have left a number of people dead and hundreds injured.A previously unknown group calling itself "Secret Organisation al Qaeda in Europe" said it carried out the attacks.
Sad to say the polotics of the3 world has affected so many of us again
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Hella May
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:18:00 -
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Its the bloody FRENCH!
We have a lot of people in our business down in London at the moment....
Minor incident with a manager who went on the underground and did not have the common sense to ring his wife and inform her he was safe......instead he went into a meeting and turned his phone off :)
Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:19:00 -
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Why wait until after the IOC decision?
Blowing up buses/tubes before the decision would've lost us the vote, I bet. That would've been a huge blow.
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Lyra VX
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:20:00 -
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My friend in Liverpool St. is stuck inside his building, next door to a "suspicious package"
They've been ordered not to move and to close all the blinds, stay at the back of the office etc.
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Crackfarmer
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:22:00 -
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Flame the ebil terroists not me :(
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lolz0rb
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:25:00 -
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all Mobile calls to london ahve been stopped due to congestion, you can get through but its taking 7 or 8 tries.
i attauly thought this was a joke when i woke up i had to check the date.
Terroist scum.
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Olrun Hlathguth
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:25:00 -
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The whole of CSI offer its support wishs and hopes to
our London UK players and hope them and there loved ones are safe and we await news on those london players of eve.
God bless !
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:26:00 -
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The ironic thing is that in late 2001 we were all shaking our heads and saying that it had only been a matter of time before terrorists struck at the US.
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Slaxl
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:26:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Case in point. In England - and in London probably more so than anywhere else - the natural reaction to horrifying events, is black humour. It's a trait I've come to find quite endearing.
i agree, i've made a few of these types of comments today, although i got no reaction i cant help myself. While i've checked to make sure no friends or family were hurt I still feel really hurt myself by this whole day.
Currently i'm living abroad and was discussing moving back to London before all this happened. As i said to a friend "i dont know why but i feel like i should be there, london is a part of me, when londons hurt im hurt"
I still remember vividly being not more than a few hundred yards away from IRA bombs in archway when i was younger, words can't describe really.
So to all those Londoners still there and expiriencing more grief than I am then you have my best wishes and sympathies.
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anister
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:27:00 -
[151]
My thoughts, condolences and deepest respects go out to my friends in london and the families of others there.
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Asharee Intrefer
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Why wait until after the IOC decision?
Blowing up buses/tubes before the decision would've lost us the vote, I bet. That would've been a huge blow.
To send a message, like saying "we plan to be around until 2012 and after, you can't catch us all"? Maybe they had things ready to go in the other candidate cities as well. Well, enough speculation from me. This is just terrible.
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Lyra VX
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:28:00 -
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It's all rather scary. I live in Greater London - a fair way away from the blasts - but it's all a bit close to home now :s
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Pyxee
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:28:00 -
[154]
partial mail sent by our company's Director of Security Risk Management
"...Due to a major security incident in Central London involving the Underground and London buses all staff are advised not to travel into London today. *** employees based in London should remain in their current location unless advised otherwise by the authorities.
All access roads into the city, and the Underground services are closed due to the emergency..."
Fairly obvious sensible advice
Pyxee
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Stogee
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:28:00 -
[155]
Im currently abroad also (Canada). Ill be headin back in about 2 months.
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A'de N'ahten
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:29:00 -
[156]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 07/07/2005 10:45:10
ok.
You keep your head in the sand but personally I want to get as much information as possible right now.
Don't bother replying to me again A'de N'ahten, I'm not interested in your opinion thanks.
This thread sure as hell is not the place for bickering - but I have to ask WTF is your problem?
I never attacked you or your opinion - just stated that the news organisations were not reporting facts - just rumours at the time I was watching that later proved to be completely wrong. Also they were being rather heavy handed in interviewing the poor sods involved in the incidents - (a) not really very humanitarian and (b) not a reliable source of info as they are probably in shock.
All in all not a very professional way to carry on - more scare-mongering than reporting.
As to why I have a problem with this:
A) I live a few mins walk from Liverpool Street and Aldgate East
B) My Wife travels on the hammersmith and city line to work travelling through : Liverpool Street, Moorgate, Kings Cross and Edgware Road.
Get the point? - I did not want to hear a load of rumour, scare stories and $hitty reporting this morning when I couldn't contact her for an hour or so. I wanted facts.
As for not being interested in my opinion that's fair enough - although wasn't so much an opinion on you - just lamenting the standard of reporting when I desperatley wanted info.
Don't know why you took it personally or to heart.
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Lijah
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:29:00 -
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Listening to our UK news right now.
4 Bombs confirmed, news reporting 7 explosions in total. No official line on who or why, but Terrorist link established by the government.
For those in fear of corp mates ... 2 people confirmed Fatal, there was initailly talk of 20. Hundreds injured to various degrees.
Tranpsort inside London has been brougth to a halt. People instructed by Police to stay in their offices/homes and not to travel.
Bus, Undergorund, Cabs all susepended for today.
many overground tains suspended. Most North London train stations Closed.
It happened about 9-10am this morning. Most people who commute into london were already en ropute, and I've managed to get through the phone lines to confirm most people got to work and then discovered what had happened from those at home.
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Perramas
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:30:00 -
[158]
Prayers and condolences from across the pond to all those affected by this horrible act.
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Admiral Keyes
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:31:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Amaron Ghant
Originally by: Admiral Keyes
Edited by: Admiral Keyes on 07/07/2005 11:27:59
Sadly to say, but it was always only a matter time until the UK experienced terrorist attacks
Dude how old are you?. Do these names mean anything to you? IRA, PIRA, INLA, Red Hand Commando, UVF, UDA, UFF ?? UK has been experiencing terrorist attacks since just after the First World War.
*snip*
I'm only 21 atm so i remember some of the IRA attacks but not very clearly. But i think you slightly misunderstood what i meant by my post, or rather i didnt say it clear enough. I was relating to all these latest attacks around the world in "supposed retaliation" of the Afghan/Iraq wars.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:31:00 -
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Attacks on civilians are so cowardly and insidious. I hope that these scum will receive justice soon.
My condolence onto all families and people in London.
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eyenstein
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:33:00 -
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I remember September 11, 2001 here in the U.S. like it was yesterday. Living in Washington D.C. and the amount of security in this city often reminds us of the very real threat terrorists pose. My deepest sympathy and heart felt prayers go out to those in London. I remember the frustration and helplessness that accompanies such attacks but do not that allow you to become complacent and reluctant to take action in the name of freedom. I can't commend enough the Prime Minister's resolve and perserverence in this situation.
May God be with you all.
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Skarsnik
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:34:00 -
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This is truly horrendous, it's taken at least 2 hours for me to get in touch with family who live in Aldgate to make sure they were ok.
We shall prevail though and these terrorists will not win the day, that much is certain.
I'm not going to even try to consider or guess as to what the retalitation will be.
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Hella May
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:36:00 -
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Some news for you all on casualties etc:
BBC Link
Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
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Chi Chianka
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Reptar
Damn wish the mobile phone network would start working again there a loads of people I care about in london
the other reason they disable the mobile phone network is mobile phones can be used as detonators
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:38:00 -
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I was just told that the police have been on local news saying that there are reports of more bombs than there actually were because they're evacuating people out of multiple stations from one incident.
From the sound of things, if it was Al-Quaeda then the bodycount is going to be extremely low for their records.
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Lyra VX
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Skarsnik
This is truly horrendous, it's taken at least 2 hours for me to get in touch with family who live in Aldgate to make sure they were ok.
We shall prevail though and these terrorists will not win the day, that much is certain.
I'm not going to even try to consider or guess as to what the retalitation will be.
Hope the family are all fine, I can't imagine how long those 2 hours must have felt.
Try not to get into retaliation though - we don't even know who did it yet (yeah, I know, al-Qaeda letter - please don't try to take that as proof). England is remaining remarkably calm over this, and I think that'd be a good attitude to continue with :)
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Alita Tiphares
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:41:00 -
[167]
tbh it was only a matter of time, if you attack someone they will attack back sooner or later
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:41:00 -
[168]
Originally by: A'de N'ahten
As for not being interested in my opinion that's fair enough - although wasn't so much an opinion on you - just lamenting the standard of reporting when I desperatley wanted info.
Don't know why you took it personally or to heart.
Quite simply because you replied directly to me.
I wanted info there and then and wasn't particularly interested in whether it had been confirmed or not.
I sincerely hope that you contacted everyone in the area and they are ok.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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Santiago Cortes
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:44:00 -
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For those wanting something of a round-up, try here:
Wiki
It's not mainstream but does a good summerisation.
As for the comments on immigrants, please desist, it borders on racism and now is hardly the time to point fingers at any isolated group and in any case we should be unified not divided.
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RichThugster
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:45:00 -
[170]
My wishes goto those who have lost family and friends, hopes goto those who are injured.
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Souro Foirtan
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:46:00 -
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England shall never surrender
You shall not break us
You shall not send us in to the night in fear
You shall never win
Freedom has a price to pay and every body in england will glady pay that price in the face of terrorism !
Stiff upper lip !
Never broken !
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:48:00 -
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I was on the central line on my way to work minding my own business when it stopped and we were told to evacuate.
Scary as hell. Tis pure chaos down here at the moment. If I hadnt have been late to work this morning god knows where i'd have been :(
Thinking about it I was playing eve till late last night so I have eve to thank for me being late (again)
Thanks eve!
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:50:00 -
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FIRSTLY CAN PEOPLE STOP POSTING STUPID RUMORS ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING SHOT OUTSIDE CANARY WHARF FGS
With that over, i shall continue. The Dept. Commisioner for the Metropolitan Police say they now have the situation under control. Scotland Yard has confirmed 6 explosions, there may or may not have been more. People exiting from lots of different tube stations has not helped when trying to get accurate ideas of numbers.
Large numbers of people have been injured, 12 confirmed deaths. The phone networks arent down, but resources have been diverted to emergency services.
The best source of offical information is The Home Office Website
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Valan on 07/07/2005 12:52:15
As I was travelling today there were reports of issues on the Northern line and Bakerloo. I got to work fine then we had reports of issues at Aldgate and Edgeware Road. Then a bus at Regents Square was reported to be blown to pieces. From that moment it became obvious it was a terorist attack, then the lock down started.
There are around 7-9 reported explosions, with a lot of casualties. Entire tube carriages have been gutted which can easily carry 50. Entire double decker buses jammed packed with people have been blown to pieces. Luckily I don't use Kings Cross or Aldgate anymore and all I have to put up with is a 10 mile walk home.
As far as the networks go most of the C&W exchanges are congested, congestion measures have been applied but aren't making much of a difference. Its having a cascade affect on the rest of the UK network.
It doesn't seem to be the same MO as usual. There were reports of items being discarded in the vicinity of the explosions. So it doesn't look like suicide bombers. Seems the British public are not as vigilant as they used to be. We used to shut stations for unattended carrier bags.
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Wraith Hunter
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Wraith Hunter on 07/07/2005 12:51:16
i just hear the sad news that there's poss 40 dead so far... my hart gose out to them, and there seems to be a poss attack in another place in london but not confermed
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:52:00 -
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Ken Livingstone, the mayor of London just gave an excellent speech before flying back to heathrow from singapore.
Just waiting for all our London based guys in [SNIGG] to check in on our forums to makes sure they're all OK.
I advise any Corp who has forums to make sure their members who live in and around london, or commute there, to ask their members to check in on their forums, or if none are available to post here to confirm they are safe and well.
It's a sad loss of life when people try and dictate to us how to live with the use of violence and attempted mass murder.
It's excellent, however to see the Emergecy Services of London coping perfectly undera surpise attack, a credit to all the training they've done since the atrocoties of 9/11.
I hope everyone down there will lend a hand wherever they can, and I'd just like to say, that everyone who's starting with the racist bigotry should be ashamed of themselves.
London is one of the few cities in the world where Christans, Muslims, Hindu's, Catholics, everyone, all live together in relative peace. This isn't an attack on a certain religion or race, this is an attack on the city of London, and it's inhabitants as human beings, regardless of race and skin color, so cut the crap with the racism, the last thing we need when we have morons trying to kill us all is people discriminating against eachother because of racial bigotory.
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A'de N'ahten
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:53:00 -
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I haven't checked back - but I intended just to quote the bit you said about info coming directly from the police and home office - which at that time it wasn't
Not having a pop at you - after all you would expect it to be the case that reporting would be based on solid facts - but they even stated on-air that there had been no official statements - it was just rumours.
Thanks for your best wishes - luckily my wife and everyone else I know is fine.
My thoughts go out to all the others who may not be so fortunate.
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:53:00 -
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Edited by: Mather Maelstrom on 07/07/2005 12:55:48
First of all I do wish teh best to everyone in London families, victims and those shocked by this.
Here's my piece of anger and hatred to cool off seeing those victems:
In my opinion stop all the charity and wellfare aid to those muslim countries and put what you safe in the South Africa countries. Put a big wall around the middle east and let them pay a barrel a bread, that's the only way to deal with the scumm. You know they have the richest countries (richest per head civilian) and we still send money there. Look at the scumms there, they did not give a tiny bid of money to the tidal wave victims in India etc. those people there care about no one and they wouldn't even feed their neighbours.
Look at the World Champion ship soccer match under 20, the Moroccan both on the field as in the stadium missbehaved by attacking the players of Nigeria, they trashed the stadium chairs for about 80.000 euro's. You're talking about a match for kids under 20 years and because one team is beating yours by just playing better doesn't mean you have to attack that team players or when you tackle them and get a red cart even spit at them as they lie down on the ground.
It sure felt good that the very Christian Nigerian team won from Alah's beloved team -amen-
"these are not the kind of people that fight and aid against attrocities, but cause them and celebrate"
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Fabiusbile
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 07/07/2005 12:13:11
Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 07/07/2005 12:11:13
Originally by: true sight
hmmm...
received two text messages from one of my icelandic corp mates...
1) Are you ok?
2) Are the eve-servers ok?
Priorities?
I don't think our precious Eve servers are in that part of London.
Edit: Though I imagine the network infrastructure may be getting a bit of a beating.
Edit 2: I imagine DT might be extended though.
The eve servers for london and the south east are housed in canary wharf so i'm told.
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Beryllina
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:55:00 -
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My heartfelt sympathies go out to the people of both London and the British Isles in general this morning. When I heard the news bright and early today I did not wholly know what to think. My initial reaction was one of a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach, followed by that faintly queasy feeling of impending doom.
There are no real words that will make any of this better.
No words that can be said to rectify the loss.
But those of my fellow gamers, and employees of the company, who reside in and around London, good fortune to you and godspeed.
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:55:00 -
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my sympathies go out to all londoners and especially to the ppl involved and their families.
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Snaieke
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:55:00 -
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I would just like to say, England for the win.
I have been following this attack pretty much since the news started reporting on it, nd I have actually been really impressed by the way its been dealt with. There seems to be no mass panic, people arent running about screaming and such, everything seems to be being contained nd whatnot. Kudos to us (i am british btw)
And ofcourse, my sympathy's go out to all involved
My names Blind Lemon Jefferson, 'nd I 'dun plucked out muh eyes fuh Jesus
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Slaxl
Currently i'm living abroad and was discussing moving back to London before all this happened. As i said to a friend "i dont know why but i feel like i should be there, london is a part of me, when londons hurt im hurt"
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Yeah I feel the same way, I was just looking at a job I might apply for back in London when I heard. It is not a good state of affairs.
Its terrible that on a day the eyes of the world should be directed towards Gleneagle and the hope for a better world, they are now focused on London and this tragedy.
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Kasibee'an
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:57:00 -
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I hope there's a rally against terrorism along the lines of that following the Madrid bombing. If there is, you will find me there.
We'll get through it.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: A'de N'ahten
Edited by: A''de N''ahten on 07/07/2005 12:54:27
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Quite simply because you replied directly to me.
I wanted info there and then and wasn't particularly interested in whether it had been confirmed or not.
I sincerely hope that you contacted everyone in the area and they are ok.
dbp
I haven't checked back - but I intended just to quote the bit you said about info coming directly from the police and home office - which at that time it wasn't
Not having a pop at you - after all you would expect it to be the case that reporting would be based on solid facts - but they even stated on-air that there had been no official statements - it was just rumours.
Thanks for your best wishes - luckily my wife and everyone else I know is fine.
My thoughts go out to all the others who may not be so fortunate.
edit: forgot the quote!
k, apologies for getting heated up, was rather worried at the time.
dbp
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Periapsis
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:59:00 -
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Today is slighty surreal.
The mobile network is starting to recover now after almost completely crashing.
Russell Square is only 10 minutes walk from my office, we thought the bang was just thunder or something. At that point we thought the problems on the underground were power failure, annoying, but it's never been the most reliable transport system.
Half of the guys that work here didn't get in at all and after spending a couple of hours stuck on the underground have got home. Fortunately everyone safely.
Public Transport in London is still listed as almost completely shutdown, the Tube network is suspended and all bus services in zone 1 (Central London) are cancelled until further notice.
Not sure what's going to happen when 5pm comes and everyone starts wanting to get home.
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Breaka
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:02:00 -
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To all our friends in London.
I hope you and your families are all ok.
From America with sympathy.
/sigh
This world today....
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Wraith Hunter
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:03:00 -
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its a sorry day when any life is lost over land,and religon .
what have we become,only time will tell, but i fear we dont have enough time to show our true protential. before we destroy each other
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Periapsis
Today is slighty surreal.
The mobile network is starting to recover now after almost completely crashing.
Russell Square is only 10 minutes walk from my office, we thought the bang was just thunder or something. At that point we thought the problems on the underground were power failure, annoying, but it's never been the most reliable transport system.
Half of the guys that work here didn't get in at all and after spending a couple of hours stuck on the underground have got home. Fortunately everyone safely.
Public Transport in London is still listed as almost completely shutdown, the Tube network is suspended and all bus services in zone 1 (Central London) are cancelled until further notice.
Not sure what's going to happen when 5pm comes and everyone starts wanting to get home.
The underground will not be operational today. Mainline trains are running as normal. Busses will also probably not be running. Looks like people will be sleeping in the office tonight :/
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:06:00 -
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I dont think this attack was meant to kill as many people as possible, more like to spread fear and terror througout england.
In spain they aimed to kill as many as possible, knowing the goverment would withdraw its troops. Due to tony blairs resolve in the question, im thinking theyll spread fear and terror instead until england gives up and withdraws.
And i guess another era of arab-muslim hate and blatant racism has begun
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Valan
Seems the British public are not as vigilant as they used to be. We used to shut stations for unattended carrier bags.
Over time, we kinda came to the conclusion that disrupting our lifestyle on such a huge scale, so regularly, was pretty much doing the IRA's job for them. Although it sounds heartless to say - *particularly* today, and my heartfelt sympathy goes out to all victims and their families - it's considered better to have to face this kind of atrocity once in a while, than have total disruption of society on a permanent basis.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, as a great American said. On days like today, one begins to wonder if it's really worth paying; but in the long run, I believe it is.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Pieg
Due to tony blairs resolve in the question, im thinking theyll spread fear and terror instead until england gives up and withdraws.
You're probably right that that is their aim; but it won't work. We stood out against the IRA's terror campaign for thirty years. We'll stand out against this one for as long as it takes.
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
Due to tony blairs resolve in the question, im thinking theyll spread fear and terror instead until england gives up and withdraws.
You're probably right that that is their aim; but it won't work. We stood out against the IRA's terror campaign for thirty years. We'll stand out against this one for as long as it takes.
the difference is, the IRA were much kinder when it came to terrorism. For instance they warned your goverment in time to evac on several occasions.
To be honest i doubt england can stand against something like this when the body count starts to stack up. Just look at france and iran.
Years ago france caught one of irans most known terrorists and refused to send him back to iran. A wave of bombs swept through france, people died, france gave in. The same will happen here.
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Alphamarine
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:11:00 -
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First
Mobile networks go down, its standard operating procedure in terrorist attacks to stop communication between them.
Dont think because your friends and families mobiles are dead that they have been hurt of injured.
Secondly im not religious but can people stop blaming religion or countrys , it cheapens the loss of others. Its not a religion that does this but a lunatic who bends religion who has a strong will , this strong willed person is then followed by weak willed people who do that persons bidding as its better than their life.
My father is now confirmed ok who passed through Aldgate station 30 minutes prior to the explosion , my heart felt pain goes out to the people who have suffered loss in this appaling attack.
Attacking the defenceless is wrong and everyone knows it, London is responding very well to this attack and the emergency services are doing what they have planned for.
Lets all stop the specualtion and post only support for those involved please. Thanks for your support
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:11:00 -
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Hi guys, I hope everyone that is in London today like me is OK. It's an absolutely crazy atmosphere here right now. I am actually a very lucky man and this has been sinking in as the day goes by.
I get off my main line train at about 9am every day at Kings Cross, today I was on a train that put me in Kings cross at 9.25, when I arrived the tube line was closed, this is not unusual though so I set about walking to work going South West towards Covent Garden. I decided to take the smaller back roads as they were far less crowded than the main Euston road and it looked a far less stressful experience.
At about 9:35-40 I heard a terrific explosion to my right, it didnt sound like anything I had heard before, everyone stopped in the street and looked around. When I rounded the corner there were people running towards me. One guy said "just go home mate, a bus has just exploded down that road"
I immediately went into Russell square and stayed there with others. Many of us totally unaware what was going on. Rumours of bombs, train crashes were buzzing around. After staying in the park for a while I decided to continue with my walk to work so that I could watch the news and find out for sure what had happened.
The explosion I had heard was indeed the bus being destroyed near Russell Square. Don't know if anyone lost their lives on that, but the pictures don't look good at all. Also had I been on my usual train I would have been much closer to the underground incident on the Picadilly line which they say now has claimed up to ten peoples lives.
Not sure how I will get home today as the trains are sure to be severely disrupted going out of London from Kings Cross and most the other stations too I'd say. I'll just be glad to get out of the city and most likely won't come back into town tomorrow.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Pieg
the difference is, the IRA were much kinder when it came to terrorism. For instance they warned your goverment in time to evac on several occasions.
Fair point. But we also stood out against the ****s, when not a single country in the world supported us. These guys won't beat us down either.
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Zdragva
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:12:00 -
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The status quo of pain and death continues, of empty lives and wasted time. Pain and sorrow drowned out by the march of 6 billion souls, wondering if this is really how it must be.
The meek and the misfortunate scream their hate for the strong and the lucky, who in turn are at a loss for the pain they themselves can see. Helplessness and fear grips the hearts of all, and anger and hate flows from sourceless wells.
The whole world cries, do we hear it?
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Mina
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Why wait until after the IOC decision?
Blowing up buses/tubes before the decision would've lost us the vote, I bet. That would've been a huge blow.
Even bigger when you have to do all the work for the Games Preparation and not having people go to the games because you got attacked the very next day after the IOC decision.
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Layrex
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:20:00 -
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It just keeps happening. It makes me want to cry.
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Nim Nom
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: Nim Nom on 07/07/2005 13:29:54
Still waiting on of our boys to check in atm.
Tecnospy, if you see this, drop me a line on the moby, and/or most of us are on msn atm. (as u know our corp forums are down atm)
Again regards to all those affected.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:37:00 -
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You guys might not like Americans, or America, but know that riding the metro in to work today in DC, you could just see the shock and numbness on peoples faces.
I know I felt sick, the feeling i had for the week after 9/11 came back when I found out I nearly lost my uncle in one of the towers (he was supposed to be working on the 93rd floor but was transfered to the 43rd 2 weeks before 9/11, and got out).
I'm just glad it wasn't worse. Seems like amazingly few casualties...
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Touk
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:40:00 -
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the british ppl have always lived with the threat of terrorism hanging over our heads...as have our parents.
They did not crumble when the IRA were at its strongest and neither shall we.
If the perps of this cowardly attack believe they are doing themselves some good and that the UK will bow down to them and do as they ask then they will be sorely dissapointed...all they have achieved this day is to strengthen our resolve and awake a slumbering beast.
For the first time i find myself agreeing with the primeminster....our determination to protect our way of life and the lives of our fellow human beings will not be over come by thier determination to cause death and destruction.
The moral-vacuam these ppl live in will not be tolerated imo. They will be found and brought to justice.
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Sydonis
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Critta
Edited by: Critta on 07/07/2005 13:26:44
It is the first day of the G8 summit in Edinburgh, I'd suggest it's got more to do with that than anything else.
Tony Blair has headed back to London already.
Blowing things up to disrupt a summit tackling poverty in Africa is a disgrace.
I suspect you're right - I can't see the French being THAT upset about not getting the Olympics.
I've just been going through all the people I know and all seem ok, so I'm relieved... but my heart truly does go out to all those who know those who have losses and injuries.
It's like the 80's all over again. True, the IRA did often warn first, but not always in time to clear the area... and sometimes not at all... but they didn't go in as hard as this.
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Santiac
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Santiac
Not that any of these sort of attacks have any "valid" purpose, nothing can justify them, but if al-qaeda did this as they say they did, why attack one of the citys in the world, that holds most immigrants and is more open then most?
I'm sorry if this seemed racist to anyone, was not meant as one, far from it, you have my apologies if you were offended by it. :)
To try and clarify what i meant, i was refering to al-qaeda seemingly having something against the western world, and now it's obvious, as people have already said, that it's merely a fact of where you are to them, and obviously not a matter of religion either - they might say it is but when they attack a beautifully diverse city and country as England, they prove their own statements false.
Again i apologies if i offended anyone, was not meant as a racial slur.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:47:00 -
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Theory:
This attack was a "warning shot" for England. Hell, off the top of my head I could prolly come up with dozens of more deadly attack methods. This attack was aimed at sending a message to you guys, saying "dont help the us or heres what happens."
Expect bigger, deadlier attacks in the next few months .
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: DrunkenOne on 07/07/2005 13:48:01
btw al qaeda just claimed responsibility
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&sid=aTmt3j5vkwHw&refer=europe
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200507/s1409548.htm
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dokkillo
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:49:00 -
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I am sad for London I hope all our friends and his familys are ok
my condolences to the british people
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Sydonis
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:49:00 -
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OK, according to the news, it's an Al Quieda cell and they've warned that other countries that sent forces to Iraq will be next.
Looks like people's guesses were correct - the G8 was probably the key though - hit the host country at the start to get everyone's attention.
I'm surprised they didn't aim at Edinburgh or even at the G8 itself.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:52:00 -
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I think really you should lay off the IRA topic, The IRA's agenda as regards the UK was to hurt the English Tax payer causing enough damage that they hoped the English people would just say to hell with this give them back Northren Ireland, people were killed and hurt but warnings were given in 99% of the incidents. I am not condoning this in anyway just showing the difference the IRA are as much Scum as the rest.
What you are dealing with now are extremists, something the IRA are not, they do not do suicide Bombs and all that stuff, drawing comparrisons between the two is pointless as already pointed out these Islamic fundamentalists are the extreame of Terrorism.
Now not getting into a Political debate as its againest forum policy, but as a Irish person I am getting abit miffed at the amount of times the IRA has been mentioned. People are upset hell even I am upset been glued to Sky news all morning, but again throwing wild speculations around offends and leads to miss-information and general panic ect.
" Stay Frosty "
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sydonis
I'm surprised they didn't aim at Edinburgh or even at the G8 itself.
Too hard a target, probably. Far easier to use it as a distraction and slip under the net in London while the security forces are busy protecting the summit.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew
Originally by: Sydonis
I'm surprised they didn't aim at Edinburgh or even at the G8 itself.
Too hard a target, probably. Far easier to use it as a distraction and slip under the net in London while the security forces are busy protecting the summit.
In most case's making a attack on the Capital City where security is normally better is sending a bigger message, hence London/madrid ect, NEw york unfortunatly while not the Capital of the USA is its most widely known city.
" Stay Frosty "
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Konietzko
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Posted - 2005.07.07 14:11:00 -
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God, I hope everyone is ok. That's some scary ****. Also in DC, noticed that Crystal City/Pentagon City were a lot more protected then usual. Crazy.
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Delgado Isai
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Posted - 2005.07.07 14:12:00 -
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It's more like 45 Deaths now.
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MIGHTYDWC
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Posted - 2005.07.07 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: MIGHTYDWC on 07/07/2005 14:13:57
I was too lazy to look around the forums and see if there was another post about this, sorry for the wrong placement. Here's what I said.
Hopefully i'm putting this in the right section, but my thoughts and prayers to anyone who was directly affected by today's cowardly acts of murder and mayhem today in London, including their friends and or family members. Im sure we all at some point and time fight each other somewhere somehow in this universe of EVE, but i'm sure the whole will agree with me in saying this.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2005.07.07 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: corporal hicks
I think really you should lay off the IRA topic, The IRA's agenda as regards the UK was to hurt the English Tax payer causing enough damage that they hoped the English people would just say to hell with this give them back Northren Ireland, people were killed and hurt but warnings were given in 99% of the incidents. I am not condoning this in anyway just showing the difference the IRA are as much Scum as the rest.
The IRA started giving warnings when people stopped believing them when they claimed responsibility after the fact. There was a joke that they would claim responsibility for your car backfiring.
They have shot babies at point blank range, blown the legs of pregnant women and more. Their warnings are always ambiguous and frequently fail to save lives, because they don't care how many people they kill, as long as they spread terror.
Sorry, but I've heard the 'warnings = not wanting to kill' fallacy too many times.
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IamBen
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Posted - 2005.07.07 14:26:00 -
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My condolences to all the londoners.
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Skidd Chung
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Posted - 2005.07.07 14:35:00 -
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My condolences to the families who lost their loved ones, and sympathies to Londoners and English people in general.
Stay strong is all I can say.
safe travels
skidd
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anister
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Posted - 2005.07.07 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Delgado Isai
It's more like 45 Deaths now.
33 confirmed dead on the tube explosions so far.
Unknown number of deaths (hopefully none although unlikely) on the bus explosion.
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Janos Abaddon
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Posted - 2005.07.07 14:44:00 -
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Press Conference by the Met is now saying 33 dead excluding the bus.
4 explosions. 3 on underground trains, 1 on the bus
My though and prayers are with all Londoners
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Kreeper
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Posted - 2005.07.07 14:57:00 -
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My prayers are with the people in London.
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Smother another Failur
Lay this to rest...
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Princess Beefcurtains on 07/07/2005 15:19:02
I would just like to add my condolances to anyone affected by this attrocity and my heart goes out to their friends and families.
this is obviously a shakey time for us Brits and of course many people are worried about their safety. I expect it has already been suggested, but I would like to ask if CCP would be willing to post a News item on the home page to inform those who may not be aware of the attacks.
This is being reported as the most deadly terrorist attack in Brittain ever. Let's all take a little time to think of those affected.
Thanks
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heavyg
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:15:00 -
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FYI ifyou are havin problems getting through on mobiles they had ealier switched on some sort of selective use policy to allow the emergency services only to comunicate. Keep trying.
To those affectted my thoughts are with you.
HG
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David Goodwill
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:19:00 -
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I just got home from London, watching the rest of it unfold. The people who did this do not deserve the life they have been given to live on this planet. they are a truely disgusting source of humanity. I have checked the rest of my family and they are ok. My heart goes out to all those with loved ones caught up in it.
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Andre Ricard
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: anister
33 confirmed dead on the tube explosions so far.
Unknown number of deaths (hopefully none although unlikely) on the bus explosion.
CNN is quoting people as saying that bus went "airborne" when the bomb went off.
I'm not being pessimistic when I say the bus alone will probably double that 33 fatalities... it was a packed double decker, after all.
Remember, London: this too shall pass. And you've got friends.
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:22:00 -
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My dad went to London for the first time in ages. Was about to get on the tube when it all started. Now hes stranded with 20p and they wont let him get his car out the car park, looks like he got off easy. Know a few people that take the tube, hopefully they will be allright.
My thought are with everyone involved with the inncodent.
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Santiago Cortes
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:24:00 -
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Quote:
This is being reported as the most deadly terrorist attack in Brittain ever
Lockerbie?
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Lord Xantos
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:25:00 -
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It is a sad day today...
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Cortes
Quote:
This is being reported as the most deadly terrorist attack in Brittain ever
Lockerbie?
That was Scotland I believe although I may be wrong. just relaying what I have heard via BBC, ITV, Sky etc
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CoolSprog
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:35:00 -
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Edited by: CoolSprog on 07/07/2005 15:34:58
Scotland is Britain :).
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: CoolSprog
Edited by: CoolSprog on 07/07/2005 15:34:58
Scotland is Britain :).
Meh, my bad... I blame the news reader, he prob meant England...
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Sanalsa
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: corporal hicks
I think really you should lay off the IRA topic, The IRA's agenda as regards the UK was to hurt the English Tax payer causing enough damage that they hoped the English people would just say to hell with this give them back Northren Ireland, people were killed and hurt but warnings were given in 99% of the incidents. I am not condoning this in anyway just showing the difference the IRA are as much Scum as the rest.
What you are dealing with now are extremists, something the IRA are not, they do not do suicide Bombs and all that stuff, drawing comparrisons between the two is pointless as already pointed out these Islamic fundamentalists are the extreame of Terrorism.
Now not getting into a Political debate as its againest forum policy, but as a Irish person I am getting abit miffed at the amount of times the IRA has been mentioned. People are upset hell even I am upset been glued to Sky news all morning, but again throwing wild speculations around offends and leads to miss-information and general panic ect.
I agree
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:42:00 -
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Just heard my Dad is ok although he was traveling in central London at the time. If anyone else is waiting for news of loved ones I hope that you recieve the same good news shortly if you have not already.
Once again my condolances and sympathy goes out to all affected by this, yet another cowardly attack on innocents. I am truly shocked...
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:43:00 -
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Really, cool, I work at the Wharf
Originally by: Fabiusbile
Originally by: FireFoxx80
Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 07/07/2005 12:13:11
Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 07/07/2005 12:11:13
Originally by: true sight
hmmm...
received two text messages from one of my icelandic corp mates...
1) Are you ok?
2) Are the eve-servers ok?
Priorities?
I don't think our precious Eve servers are in that part of London.
Edit: Though I imagine the network infrastructure may be getting a bit of a beating.
Edit 2: I imagine DT might be extended though.
The eve servers for london and the south east are housed in canary wharf so i'm told.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:43:00 -
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I cannot even start expressing the sadness and sorrow i feel at times like these. At times when Nightmares come to life, and evil is allowed to spread this far into our daily lives.
At this time, all my thoughts is with those who have been both directlly and in-directlly effected by the Cowardish act taken by Al-Quaida.
I myself have witnessed two suicide bombings, and i know that it is not easy, no matter how you think of it. Just knowing that this sort of thing is even possible, makes me sad and sick, at the same time.
However, it is times like these, that you need to stay strong, and not let those kind of things, no matter how horrifying they are, take control of your feelings and mind.
Living in fear is not an option - I live in Israel, I know.
To all those who lost people dear to them - My heart is with you, and so are the hearts of every single sane and civilized pearson on this earth.
My best wishes to all of you, dear brothers from overseas.
When I first read about the bombing, I was shocked. i did not belive that Evil and terror was allowed to make it to the peaceful island to which i so want to go for a visit.
Again, allow me to share my sorrow with you, on this sad day.
I wish all of the best to the familys of the ones that were injured, adn the ones that were sadlly taken away from us with this horrible blast of illogical reality.
All my thoughts are with you guys right now, and i hope that all who has been effected recover soon, and smile at the shining sun and the blue skies once more.
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CoolSprog
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains
Originally by: CoolSprog
Edited by: CoolSprog on 07/07/2005 15:34:58
Scotland is Britain :).
Meh, my bad... I blame the news reader, he prob meant England...
Heh yes, in England it probably is. It is indeed a sad day for Britain :<.
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:51:00 -
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For those wanting more information and numbers to call in case you are worried about a loved one, please click on either of the following links for the latest: www.bbc.co.uk or BBC News
hope this will help people
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:57:00 -
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I say it were american or english nationalists or even parts of the government to prepare the people of the UK for further wars.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:58:00 -
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Whether or not this is the worst attack in England depends on how you do the maths. But it doesn't matter.
Do I believe the hitherto unheard-of group who claimed responsibility after nobody else had? No. Why should I? After all, someone claimed responsibility for 9/11 in the name of the DFLP but it turned out to be a hoax. If these nameless typists want me to believe it was them then they'll have to do a lot better than that.
I wonder what Bin Laden thinks of them claiming to be a part of his organisation? I hope it makes him miserable, because that has to be good in my book.
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Sydonis
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Cortes
Quote:
This is being reported as the most deadly terrorist attack in Brittain ever
Lockerbie?
Well, technically, that was over britain, but I agree that Lockerbie was worse. But Lockerbie wasn't quite so intentional - they only had the one bomb didn't they? Not 4... and it's this co-ordination that makes it worse in some ways.
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Syrus666
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Posted - 2005.07.07 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Syrus666 on 07/07/2005 16:18:28
My heartfelt condolences go out to the family of those hurt and killed in these attrocious attacks.
Also to all you here with friends and family down in london atm, I hope they're all safe and well and my thoughts go out to you.
I live in B'ham, and have just got back from work - news has been on the plasma screens all day, watching it now too..
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.07.07 16:19:00 -
[241]
good luck guys, though you hardly need luck. Hope everyones loved ones are ok. Dont let em break you.
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.07.07 16:25:00 -
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Looks like a terrorist organization is claiming responsibility, but the anti-terrorism units say that they ppl claiming the acts are not empowered enough to do it. So they eiter got help, or upgraded their ops big time.
Last I heard here in the USA, it was up to 7 bombs in 4 different locations. 3 on the rails, 1 on a bus. Uncomfirmed reports of 40 ppl dead, and roughly 300 injured. Confirmed reports of at least 3 ppl dead. I'm sure that will go up of course.
My prayers go out to everyone there. This sort of thing should never have to happen in todays world, but some people are just purely evil.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2005.07.07 16:28:00 -
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40 dead 300+ injured 40 seruiously injured. this does not include the bus attack where at least 10 have died.
london is locked down for the day im just happy friends are all ok.
my condolences to anyone directly affected.
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James Raven
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Posted - 2005.07.07 16:31:00 -
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Yea, condolences to all that were affected by all of this, I hope that things will turn out good for you all.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.07.07 16:37:00 -
[245]
Edited by: JoCool on 07/07/2005 16:37:55
My comment was deleted, I think because it lacked explanation. It is my honest opinion and might be REAL. I did not intend to start a flame war with it, just point out that it might be possible because it HAS happened and in fact such things started the biggest war mankind has ever seen, WW2.
The comment which was deleted pointed out, that it could have been nationalists from the UK or the US or even parts of the government itself.
Why seems it so ridiculous that the *government* found a *new* so called Al-Qaeda page in the internet. The british people are being prepared mentally for further wars.
In fact A. H. used the same tactic, his party's private army SA faked an ambush on a german village at the border to poland, disguised in Pole outfits. This was live transmitted by a german radio station, and the german people were fierce and ready for revenge. The invasion of Poland followed which led to the war declarations of France and the UK shortly after against Germany. The known result was that the foolishly blinded germans thought they would fight a pre-emptive war up until 1944. The same tools of fear were used back then and they're still effective as ever.
Whatever one individual might think, what is true is that the British population is now fierce, willing for revenge and holds together stronger than ever before.
God bless the UK.
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OFFT
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Posted - 2005.07.07 16:37:00 -
[246]
My condolences to all who may be involved.
I for one am angered and appalled.
I wont bow to Terrorism.
OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY
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Marie Sklodowska
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Posted - 2005.07.07 16:49:00 -
[247]
Originally by: JoCool
Edited by: JoCool on 07/07/2005 16:37:55
My comment was deleted, I think because it lacked explanation. It is my honest opinion and might be REAL. I did not intend to start a flame war with it, just point out that it might be possible because it HAS happened and in fact such things started the biggest war mankind has ever seen, WW2.
The comment which was deleted pointed out, that it could have been nationalists from the UK or the US or even parts of the government itself.
Why seems it so ridiculous that the *government* found a *new* so called Al-Qaeda page in the internet. The british people are being prepared mentally for further wars.
In fact A. H. used the same tactic, his party's private army SA faked an ambush on a german village at the border to poland, disguised in Pole outfits. This was live transmitted by a german radio station, and the german people were fierce and ready for revenge. The invasion of Poland followed which led to the war declarations of France and the UK shortly after against Germany. The known result was that the foolishly blinded germans thought they would fight a pre-emptive war up until 1944. The same tools of fear were used back then and they're still effective as ever.
Whatever one individual might think, what is true is that the British population is now fierce, willing for revenge and holds together stronger than ever before.
God bless the UK.
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I cannot believe you are saying that. I hope your post and your character get deleted.
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Lanish
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:02:00 -
[248]
Im English but living and working in Germany and I have spent the day calling friends, family and checking Web Sites for news.
Call me soft, but I miss home and I been in a near state of tears all day.
My heartfelt thoughts are with those that are injured or greiving.
With regards to the Conspiracy theories.
You could all be right and no one could be right.
The only people that will ever know the truth first hand 100% are the people that made those decisions and did what they did, everything else is just speculation and opinions and NOTHING else.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 07/07/2005 17:10:14
I was shocked and surprised when I heard about this today. The loss of any inoccent life is always deplorable, and it is unfortunate that these misguided people felt that attacking innocent civilians was the correct way to influence international politics. Another example how the horrors of war reach across the globe with no regard for borders, nationality, religeon or creed.
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Fekkerov U
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:17:00 -
[250]
timeline London blasts timeline
Below is a timeline of the unfolding story from central London. All times are British Summer Time.
8:51 a.m.
During morning rush hour an explosion hits a subway train between Moorgate and Liverpool Street stations in London's financial district. At least seven are later reported dead.
8:56 a.m.
A second blast hits a subway train between King's Cross and Russell Square. At least 21 die in the blast.
9:15 a.m.
Emergency services are called to Liverpool Street Station as the incident is identified as an explosion, possibly because of a train collision or power surge. "Walking wounded" are reported.
9:17 a.m.
A third explosion occurs on a train at Edgware Road Station. At least five die.
9:47 a.m.
Police confirm an explosion on a double-decker bus in Tavistock Square near Russell Square. Witnesses report that the bus's roof was ripped off by the blast. Casualties have not been announced.
9:49 a.m.
London's Underground is shut down.
9:53 a.m.
Police identify reports of incidents throughout central London.
10:02 a.m.
Scotland Yard says that it is handling a "major incident." Twenty minutes later it confirms that "multiple explosions" have hit London.
11:18 a.m.
London Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair says that he knows of "about six explosions" but says that it is "still a confusing situation."
12:05 p.m.
Prime Minister Tony Blair releases a statement from the G8 Summit in Gleneagles, Scotland: "Our determination to defend our values and ways of life is greater than their desire to create death and destruction and impose extremism on the world. Whatever they do, it is our determination that they shall not succeed."
12:10 p.m.
BBC monitoring services announces that it has discovered a 200-word statement on a Web site popular with Islamic militants. The statement, filed by The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe, says that the blasts were in retaliation for Britain's involvement with Iraq and Afghanistan.
12:38 p.m.
Scotland Yard announces that there have been four blasts: A train between Aldgate and Liverpool Street; a train between Russell Square and KingÆs Cross; a train at Edgeware Road station; a double-decker bus at Tavistock Square, near Russell Square.
1:25 p.m.
U.K. Prime Minister leaves the G8 Summit in Gleneagles, Scotland, for London.
2:38 p.m.
Latest casualty figures are put at 33 killed and at least 300 wounded.
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My prayers go out to the people affected by this act of cowards.
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Khaldun
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:20:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Krapz
Last I heard here in the USA, it was up to 7 bombs in 4 different locations. 3 on the rails, 1 on a bus. Uncomfirmed reports of 40 ppl dead, and roughly 300 injured. Confirmed reports of at least 3 ppl dead. I'm sure that will go up of course.
Latest news on the BBC reports 4 bombs (three trains, one bus) and at least 33 confirmed deaths.
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Yarrick
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:20:00 -
[252]
Great Britain will Never bow down to Terrorism.
My Condlences to those caught up in this act of Cowardice.
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KIAGumpy
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:32:00 -
[253]
As a Londoner and a British Citizen I would like to state that this kind of terrorism is not new, we have been through this before and will go through it again as our parents (IRA) and Grandparents (Blitz) did. We wont let these people change our way of life or live in fear of them and will continue our daily lives as normal, for if we do they will have got what they want.
The people behind it will burn in hell for their actions.
My condolences to anyone who suffered losses.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:33:00 -
[254]
I was in central london 2day :(. Bombs went off on the underground, the power got shut off, whole system came to a standstill. A Bomb went off in a bus and teared it apart. Railway stations/underground were cornered off with armed police, bus's were cancel, cars were stopped coming into london and cars were checked that were leaving, roads were blocked, police were everywhere. People in even remotely large buildings were taken out and put on the streets, shops were closed, armed guards, sniffer dogs, ambulances, firetrucks were EVERYWHERE.
People didnt know what to do, PEOPLE IN THE CAPITAL DIDNT EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON stuff was just closing, mobiles were down, no1 knew wtf was happening it was chaos. Syrens going off all over the place, cab drivers charging ******* stupid ammounts to go even short distances.
Half of london LITTERALLY walked out, there was no other way to leave, i walked 10 miles to eventually get picked up in battersea by my dad.
All those people dead :(. I went into an electrical store that sells tv's and sky news said that nearly 45 people have died, more are stuck in the wreckage that could be dead, so many people injured and at least 50 of them critical. I think the death toll will rise much higher :(.
It was terrible, i cant believe any1 could do that.
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Uncle George
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:34:00 -
[255]
Edited by: Uncle George on 07/07/2005 17:34:49
A mate was evacuated from Kings Cross this morning on his way to work. It is his first terrorist experience.
I had my first terrorist experience about ten years ago when the IRA planted bombs in various stations (notably Reading and Basingstoke). According to the CID who interviewed me later, I was sitting on the platform for over an hour on a bench situated around ten feet away from one of the bombs that failed to detonate.
These people need to be sent right back to the clone bay they came from.
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implanted
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:36:00 -
[256]
700 injured and 37 dead......its all happening just up the road from me.....im so shocked it feels like 9/11 all over again.
al queada or what ever they call themselves will NOT terrorise us londoners....we are made of sterner stuff and have a high resolve.
we will find you and you will be brought to justice.
my heartfelt condolences go out to all people concerned.
well done to all emergency services , you were magnificent !
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:40:00 -
[257]
Latest confirmed numbers: 37 Dead, 700 injured, still no word on how many killed/injured on the bus blast, which is unsurprising due to the evident incredible force of the explosion and subsequent chaos
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D'Artagnan
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:42:00 -
[258]
Originally by: KIAGumpy
As a Londoner and a British Citizen I would like to state that this kind of terrorism is not new, we have been through this before and will go through it again as our parents (IRA) and Grandparents (Blitz) did. We wont let these people change our way of life or live in fear of them and will continue our daily lives as normal, for if we do they will have got what they want.
The people behind it will burn in hell for their actions.
My condolences to anyone who suffered losses.
I could not agree more with gumpy on this one. I too am a londoner and this has come as a real shock to everyone here. Thank god i quit my old job a couple of weeks back or i would have arrived right in the middle of it.
I hope no one in game has been a victim of this horrific act
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Roba
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:46:00 -
[259]
Wow, its like a regular day in Pakistan
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Mara Morai
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:53:00 -
[260]
To all of our Fellow EVE Players in London. I hope you are all okay and that your family and friends are ok. My condolences to you and your country go out to you at this time of tragedy.
~Mara
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Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:56:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Darko1107
It was terrible, i cant believe any1 could do that.
Americans felt the same way September 11, 2001.
Indonesians felt the same way October 12, 2002
Russians felt the same way October 23, 2003.
Spaniards felt the same way March 11th, 2004.
Israeli's feel the same way nearly daily.
There are more... many more. Because terrorism, the bane of free and decent societies everywhere, knows no limits; no sanctity of human life, no such thing as "innocents", no rational except hatred... we have got to draw the line somewhere. I wish I knew the solution, but I do know that the people responsible for this are cowards.
I'm very sorry that this has happened. God bless and keep all people affected by this trajedy, and may the murderers be brought swiftly to justice.
After the nerfing of three sig's, Latex still won't give ISD what they really want...
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:56:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Fekkerov U
Originally by: Roba
Wow, its like a regular day in Pakistan
Why do people choose to spew out ridiculous statements that donÆt help anything?
agreed, its pointless and rather thoughtless!
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Uncle George
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:56:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Fekkerov U
Originally by: Roba
Wow, its like a regular day in Pakistan
Why do people choose to spew out ridiculous statements that donÆt help anything?
Because they are flippant and stupid.
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Harkan Ramientes
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:01:00 -
[264]
my sincerest condolences to all that could have suffered for this coward act
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:02:00 -
[265]
the animals that did this should be strung up most of my friends who i havent been able to get hold of due to mobile networks being down i just dont know. i wasnt near any of the blasts but felt the aftershock and the sureal atmosphere around dalston/liverpool street where i was stuck behind gridlock.
gutless spineless pond life
jst dont know what to say
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Tryker
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:05:00 -
[266]
this is just sad, i dont see the point in people hurting other people, just to prove points that they are capable of stuff like that, people in london my thoughts go out to all people affected by this....
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Kunoichi
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:07:00 -
[267]
Edited by: Kunoichi on 07/07/2005 18:07:10
maybe just think in this sad moment about all the other ppl in the world who suffer either from terrorism or supression by the state.
i guess those ppl won't see a mighty bush helping to "spread peace and freedom" in the world?!?
anyway, my true and best wishes are with the ppl who lost loved ones in london.
greets
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Ronin Woman
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:07:00 -
[268]
I would like to add my heartfelt condolences to the United Kingdom & London in particular.
It appears that as world citizens we cannot let these cowardly bastrds live since it is very clear that they do not respect anyones life regardless of who they are or where they come from.
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Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:08:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Kunoichi
i guess those ppl won't see a mighty bush helping to "spread peace and freedom" in the world?!?
Shut up, toad.
What a loathesome person you are for using a time like this to espouse your political views... 
After the nerfing of three sig's, Latex still won't give ISD what they really want...
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Kain De'Stroi
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:15:00 -
[270]
A very distressing time indeed. My thoughts and prayers are for the people effected by this tragedy.
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Calvoor
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:16:00 -
[271]
I just want to post repsects to the families of those lost and injured by the attacks on my country today.
It is very nice to see that although the Eve community is set in a world far from reality, we can still stop and take a look around and touch on the real world, repsects to all posters on this thread.
Recover...Rebuild...Remember
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Eversor
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:24:00 -
[272]
Edited by: Eversor on 07/07/2005 18:25:25
To our British friends, you are in our thoughts, here in the US.
The UK's population is strong, proud and resilient, there is no doubt in my mind that they will recover quickly from this. They have faced greater challenges before and defeated them all.
My heartfelt sympathies to the children, husbands, wives and mothers that will not have a loved one coming home tonight.
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Novah
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:28:00 -
[273]
Just got home..........
Things are crazy here in london today. Its craxy and quite surreal that things like this happenlike 10 miles from my home.
things are on the mend though :)
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Intersteller eXodus - Making Stain A Happier Place To Raise Your Family.
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marioman
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:43:00 -
[274]
My condolences to my fellow British Evians. Hope all your family and friends are ok
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chillz
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:45:00 -
[275]
Hmm, surreal day. All home safe thankfully.
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A gun and a packet of sandwiches.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
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Leitari
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:58:00 -
[276]
hope all eve players are safe home
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Insane Angel
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Posted - 2005.07.07 19:00:00 -
[277]
To all my ingame friends and enemies that live in the area affected in London: I hope you and your famlies are safe and well and I hope all of you stay safe.
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HeLlRaIzA666
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Posted - 2005.07.07 19:01:00 -
[278]
apparantly al qeada claimed it on there TV channel thingy, and it was bombs, not power surges,
condolences to the ppl who lost there lives due to some pathetic terrorists
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.07.07 19:19:00 -
[279]
Edited by: X''Alor on 07/07/2005 19:21:09
My thoughts go out to all in london and families affected.
I live a tiny bit outside NYC and can still remember very very vividly where and what I was doing on 911 here and the kind of hysteria it brought just a few hours outside the city let alone inside the city.
I can't immagine in london like that.
Just sureal. Maybe one day everyone will see that the US is not warmongers but trying to stop this sort of thing from happening anywhere else in the world.
How many bombs, how many countries, how many lives and how many families need to be affected in how many various parts of the world from the far east to africa to europe to england to the US and soon to be south america before the world leaders realize that this is a global problem and can affect anyones homeland before something is REALY done about it.
starts playing the tune "bombs over bagdhag"
I bet some guy named George H(itler) Bush does what he should in support of our allies in this crazy insane world we live in these days.
go gettem georgie boy, and may I sign my name on one the first ones being dropped.
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Valan
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Posted - 2005.07.07 19:59:00 -
[280]
Edited by: Valan on 07/07/2005 19:59:09
Got home eventually, thank god it was only 4 bombs instead of the inital reports of more around 7. A tragedy all the same.
I'm proud to say the British spirit came into play. Strangers giving other people a lift. Taxi drivers moving people around for free. Kind of a wierd sight, no traffic with thousands of people walking home on a sunny afternoon. Occasionally coming across a secure zone and 'fully' armed police officers patrolling the streets. Very surreal.
Just have to say the British emergency services are outstanding, fast expert response. They kept everything under control and saved countless lives because they are so professional.
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Eilonwy Lyr
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Posted - 2005.07.07 20:06:00 -
[281]
Edited by: Eilonwy Lyr on 07/07/2005 20:08:49
Edited by: Eilonwy Lyr on 07/07/2005 20:08:06
Screw the cowardly terrorists! As a Londoner I still want to celebrate getting the Olympics. This is a horrible day but as has already been pointed out, Londoners have a resiliance against this sort of thing going back generations.
Hell, if ****** (hohum over-sensitive and boring censorship, this word is German dictator with Charlie Caplin moustache) and the IRA couldn't make Londoners cower, what hope do a bunch of 2-bit religious fanatics think they have.
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Basileus
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Posted - 2005.07.07 20:25:00 -
[282]
My condolences to the victims' families. I hope we will provide justice for them. This evil deed should not go unpunished.
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Grant Smith
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Posted - 2005.07.07 21:54:00 -
[283]
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families who've suffered losses over the course of the day.
Let those who've fallen rest in peace.
Good luck to the families, London and the government on the situation. It rest in your hands Tony Blair.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.07.07 21:56:00 -
[284]
Originally by: Valan
Edited by: Valan on 07/07/2005 19:59:09
Got home eventually, thank god it was only 4 bombs instead of the inital reports of more around 7. A tragedy all the same.
This got confusing, because with the bombs going off in between stations, people were being evacuated from the stations on either side: so, the press saw ppl exiting from six different stations and assumed six Tube bombs. There were in fact only three.
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2005.07.07 23:05:00 -
[285]
Edited by: KIAPieman on 07/07/2005 23:06:00
this is just a cowardly attack by a group of people wanting to speak for people who dont want them to.
it just makes me so sad.
a member of our corp lost a family member today, my thoughts and prayers go out to them in this time of sadness.
but we must remember
BRITAIN WILL ENDURE
BIRTAIN WILL SURVIVE
BRITAIN WILL WIN
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.07.07 23:23:00 -
[286]
my toughts wil be by teh victims , their families and our corp member who lost a relative today
these kinda peopel doesnt seem to understand they wont reach anything then agression , more racism and such .
We already have enuff problems with racism and this wont make it any better since a lot of people will say : oh its "race" again no doubt !
No doubt whatever race of people atm are behind these acts arent supporting their their race whether its a race or a form of beliveing , coz the innocent will suffer ..on both sides ...
and with our governments ...they live on stuff liek this liek Bush ..
you remember those movies about 2050 whatever ? police states and what not ? acts liek this and goverments liek this will eventually lead us to that crap ....
terrorist arent people who want a better place for living , they drag down innocent people with them for nothin then more agression , racism and what not i hope this wil bind us more together .
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Erik Pathfinder
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Posted - 2005.07.07 23:56:00 -
[287]
My thoughts go with the families affected today.
I used to travel on the tube a lot when I lived in the UK. Darn scary to see this happen in places I've been to. I hope the perpetrators are caught.
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Malena VXXI
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Posted - 2005.07.08 00:18:00 -
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This isnt god. I feel for those who lost someone today,
I got family living there. I yet too get in touch with them
I lost both friends and family the 11 Sept US
I realy dont want too go thrue that again.
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Young Blood
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Posted - 2005.07.08 00:20:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Zdragva
The status quo of pain and death continues, of empty lives and wasted time. Pain and sorrow drowned out by the march of 6 billion souls, wondering if this is really how it must be.
The meek and the misfortunate scream their hate for the strong and the lucky, who in turn are at a loss for the pain they themselves can see. Helplessness and fear grips the hearts of all, and anger and hate flows from sourceless wells.
The whole world cries, do we hear it?
Well said.
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Astor N'atrox
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Posted - 2005.07.08 00:30:00 -
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"This was not a terrorist attack against the mighty and the powerful. It was not aimed at Presidents or Prime Ministers. It was aimed at ordinary, working-class Londoners, black and white, Muslim and Christian, Hindu and Jew, young and old. It was an indiscriminate attempt to slaughter, irrespective of any considerations for age, for class, for religion, or whatever."
Speaking directly to those responsible for the blasts he said:
"In the days that follow look at our airports, look at our sea ports and look at our railway stations and, even after your cowardly attack, you will see that people from the rest of Britain, people from around the world will arrive in London to become Londoners and to fulfil their dreams and achieve their potential.
"They choose to come to London, as so many have come before because they come to be free, they come to live the life they choose, they come to be able to be themselves. They flee you because you tell them how they should live. They don't want that and nothing you do, however many of us you kill, will stop that flight to our city where freedom is strong and where people can live in harmony with one another. Whatever you do, however many you kill, you will fail."
Words from London Mayor Ken Livingston... It say it all I think
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Doomsayer
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Posted - 2005.07.08 03:03:00 -
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I almost lost a brother in the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington, if not for his supervisor cancelling the job at the last minute. My thoughts and prayers go out to all those who have lost a loved one or have been affected in any way.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.07.08 03:22:00 -
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Bah London has seen it all...Burned down twice, Blown up, Bombed, Carpet bombed.
Wheres that wacky british dark humor! Im willing to bet most of them dusted off the glass and dust from thier shoulders and said "My I do say, Looks like a bit of rain today. Bloody hell."
Ly'sol = Yank that <3 Brit's!
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Fedaykin
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Posted - 2005.07.08 04:19:00 -
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Let me just post a link to a flash video to do the talking instead. What applies to America here applies to Britain just as well.
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QwaarJet
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Posted - 2005.07.08 04:19:00 -
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sol, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case..that's what most of us are Brits are like :p
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Posted - 2005.07.08 04:48:00 -
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Edited by: 2ippy on 08/07/2005 04:48:43
you fund it, you ask for it. Shame we on the band wagon.
Don't worry blair will loose the next ellection and also be rid of bush. we learn from our mistakes hopefully.
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Posted - 2005.07.08 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: 2ippy
Edited by: 2ippy on 08/07/2005 04:48:43
you fund it, you ask for it. Shame we on the band wagon.
Don't worry blair will loose the next ellection and also be rid of bush. we learn from our mistakes hopefully.
Good to have your opinion, bad timing because your rubbing this in others faces. People with courage to stand against others who want nothing better then to hurt you and what your nation believes in.
Remember: The majority voted these Men into position, the majority re-elected these Men into the same position.
The whiney and vocal minority are not the majority. If you dont like it, go somewhere where your views are shared with them if you dont feel comfortable where different views are expressed by the majority of the population. I believe a short swim will make you feel at home.
I apologize for talking like this, but shame on you sir.
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MrPops
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Posted - 2005.07.08 06:23:00 -
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Just this week it was announced England drafted plans to pull out their troops from Iraq. So why would Al-Qaeda attack now? To speed up the pull out? Makes no sense.
So who stands to benefit from this attack?
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Khargos
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Posted - 2005.07.08 06:40:00 -
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oh well as long as the eve servers are still fine, all is cool.
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Missy Meatshield
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Posted - 2005.07.08 07:02:00 -
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Well atleast the terrorists didnt damage the CCP servers. Incompetent terrorists as usual.
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Legendary Clint
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Posted - 2005.07.08 08:10:00 -
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What I will remember from yesterday is how all the police came out onto the streets to reassure everyone. They seemed to be every 100 yards and I walked 6 miles from Lancaster Gate to Liverpool Street via Trafalgar Square and St Pauls. What was also impressive is how the bus management came out of the depots wearing their dress uniforms (they seemed too new for them to have worn before) to direct the emergency bus services outside Zone 1. I think they were there to reassure their own drivers as well as the public. At Liverpool Street, the situation was the same, lots of managers (they had no uniforms, only an orange jacket) plus staff in uniform were on the concourse trying to get people home. Well done everybody.
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d'hofren
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Posted - 2005.07.08 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Legendary Clint
What I will remember from yesterday is how all the police came out onto the streets to reassure everyone. They seemed to be every 100 yards and I walked 6 miles from Lancaster Gate to Liverpool Street via Trafalgar Square and St Pauls. What was also impressive is how the bus management came out of the depots wearing their dress uniforms (they seemed too new for them to have worn before) to direct the emergency bus services outside Zone 1. I think they were there to reassure their own drivers as well as the public. At Liverpool Street, the situation was the same, lots of managers (they had no uniforms, only an orange jacket) plus staff in uniform were on the concourse trying to get people home. Well done everybody.
Yes, I had to work late yesterday. To get home I walked from the city to Highbury to catch a bus, (it rained, which was reassuring, life as normal in london). The pubs and bars were still busy in Angel, people were sitting out under awnings enjoying conversation and watching the world go by in the rain.
After 10 minutes the bus arrived and I dug into my pocket for some loose change. The driver smiled, waved me on saying "It's free mate, we just want to get you all home". I am sure he was worried about his own safety driving a bus, I am sure his family would have rathered he didn't turn up for work that afternoon but he just wanted to make sure everyone got home.
That's what makes this city great, it's people, and that's why it has been my home since I first moved here 12 years ago. I have no intention of letting anyone bully me away from a way of life I value so much. I can assure you all that every londoner feels the same way.
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Lady Galadriel
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Posted - 2005.07.08 10:06:00 -
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Uptodate Information
http://www.met.police.uk/
No lies no rumors no bull****.
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Ja'kar
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Posted - 2005.07.08 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Ja''kar on 08/07/2005 11:13:59
Wheres that wacky british dark humor! Im willing to bet most of them dusted off the glass and dust
Ok since u asked- a m8 of mine said it was the French...
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Legendary Clint
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Posted - 2005.07.08 11:40:00 -
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I did go into one pub for a fuel stop and there were 4 TVs on, 3 showing Sky News and 1 showing the cricket (England v Australia One-Day Series). Everybody in the pub was watching the cricket.
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Cypherous
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Posted - 2005.07.08 11:48:00 -
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Quote:
Death toll rises to 50 with 22 still critically ill
And they expect it to rise even more
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Irashi
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Posted - 2005.07.08 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: MrPops
So who stands to benefit from this attack?
We've been getting bombed for 30 years by the IRA and that accomplished nothing except for a lack of rubbish bins at train stations. I just hope that the bombers were from somewhere else, if it turns out that they were british muslims then there'll be more support for the national front, which will be sad.
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Alita Tiphares
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Posted - 2005.07.08 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykin
Let me just post a link to a flash video to do the talking instead. What applies to America here applies to Britain just as well.
great flash
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Valan
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Posted - 2005.07.08 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ja'kar
Edited by: Ja''kar on 08/07/2005 11:13:59
Wheres that wacky british dark humor! Im willing to bet most of them dusted off the glass and dust
Ok since u asked- a m8 of mine said it was the French...
Yeh that was the first joke in our office. I'm gonna punch the first terrorist I see for making me walk home. My feet are in bits, didn't have my hiking boots on.
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Hella May
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Posted - 2005.07.08 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Valan
Originally by: Ja'kar
Edited by: Ja''kar on 08/07/2005 11:13:59
Wheres that wacky british dark humor! Im willing to bet most of them dusted off the glass and dust
Ok since u asked- a m8 of mine said it was the French...
Yeh that was the first joke in our office. I'm gonna punch the first terrorist I see for making me walk home. My feet are in bits, didn't have my hiking boots on.
I shouted it out in this forum about 12 pages back.....'ITS THE FRENCH'
G8 Meeting:
Tony Blair sitting opposite Chiraq:
Blair: "so frenchy..... gutted are we?"
chiraq: "Pardon Moi?"
Tony: "look mate... pwnd - You lost" (at which point blair does a little dance around the room)
Chiraq reaches for phone and dials 123..... 10 seconds later explosions all over london.
it seemed our London office (yards from kings cross) was more worried if they would be able to get to the cricket at headingly than bombs.
Its sad though to see the casualty list
Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.07.08 13:17:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 08/07/2005 13:20:54
Originally by: Verone
London is one of the few cities in the world where Christans, Muslims, Hindu's, Catholics, everyone, all live together in relative peace. This isn't an attack on a certain religion or race, this is an attack on the city of London, and it's inhabitants as human beings, regardless of race and skin color, so cut the crap with the racism, the last thing we need when we have morons trying to kill us all is people discriminating against eachother because of racial bigotory.
Well said. Blame the people, who are really responsible and not normal people, who are just living in a foreign country or have a different religion and who have nothing to do with it at all.
Ok, terrorists don't care much either, if they hit the right people, but that they don't use their brain for something constructive doesn't mean, that we should switch ours off, too.
Finally I hope for everyone here, that he's not directly affected. It makes me sad or angry if something like this happens, but personally I don't feel more insecure because of this. I know, that the risk of dying in a car accident is a lot higher than dying by a bomb, but I drive anyway. We just have to make sure that it stays like this. You can't reduce the risk to zero, if you want to keep your freedom. But that's just my opinion.
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Sparky McLeod
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Posted - 2005.07.08 14:04:00 -
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My thoughts and prayers are with those affected by this tragedy, I hope they are granted comfort and support as they grieve for their loved ones.
I have a very good friend who works and lives in London and had not heard from him all day yesterday. I'm thankful to say that I've finally managed to get through on the phone and he is fine. It really brings it home when your left waiting for news, praying for the best, dreading the worst.
If these terrorists think that Londoners or the British people in general can be beaten by these acts of violence then they know nothing of our history as a people. We have defended ourselves against French and Spanish armadas, weathered **** bombs that fell during WWII and carried on through years of IRA attacks. Whilst we will grieve for the loss of innocent life, the spirit of the British people will not be broken by the animals who carry out these attacks.
"Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy."
-Sir Winston Churchill
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Ja'kar
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Posted - 2005.07.08 14:53:00 -
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I shouted it out in this forum about 12 pages back.....'ITS THE FRENCH'
G8 Meeting:
Tony Blair sitting opposite Chiraq:
Blair: "so frenchy..... gutted are we?"
chiraq: "Pardon Moi?"
Tony: "look mate... pwnd - You lost" (at which point blair does a little dance around the room)
Chiraq reaches for phone and dials 123..... 10 seconds later explosions all over london.
it seemed our London office (yards from kings cross) was more worried if they would be able to get to the cricket at headingly than bombs.
Its sad though to see the casualty list
Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
ok - did not read all the posts-
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Alejandro Zapata
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Posted - 2005.07.08 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Alita Tiphares
Originally by: Fedaykin
Let me just post a link to a flash video to do the talking instead. What applies to America here applies to Britain just as well.
great flash
NOT a great flash. Keep your politics to yourself and blame the people that did this act not those that might or might not be indirectly responsible in these dark hours. These people who perpetrate these acts have and always will seek to harm those that are different from them.
My prayers go out to those affected by this barbarism.
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Knife
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Posted - 2005.07.08 16:51:00 -
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http://www.lnreview.co.uk/news/005167.php
A very British response. :)
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Kalahari Wayrest
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:18:00 -
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Quote:
http://www.lnreview.co.uk/news/005167.php
That's a great response
True too.
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:36:00 -
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RULE BRITANIA
BRITANIA RULES THE WAVES
ENGLAND NEVER NEVER NERVER
SHAL BE SLAVES
im so proud to be british right now. the reslove that everyone has not to alow this to get us down is amazing, true british grit and determination in the face of terrible things.
i salute you all
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.07.09 02:20:00 -
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****ing off the British people is the grandest form of ritualistic suicide. The only people to defeat them when truely ticked off came from the same island no one else can do it.
The greatest conquerors since the Roman Empire have all tried and have been utterly annihilated. I remember where I was when 9/11 happened and I will always remember where I was when I heard about this tragedy and note this as the day when historys two great "Sleeping Giants" woke.
And tho we yanks and you Brits may have our differences we got your back. My hearts and prayers go out to the people of London and to all Britons and when you feel like you can't go on remember the words of Churchill,they will ALWAYS get you through.
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Posted - 2005.07.09 14:42:00 -
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They just dont get it.
The French have tried and FAILED.
The Spanish have tried and FAILED.
The Germans have tried and FAILED.
They too will try and FAIL!!
Us Britons will NEVER cower, NEVER shy away from our duty and we will
NEVER, EVER SURRENDER!!!
You can break our bodies but you will NEVER break our spirits!!!
I am proud to call myself British and noone will ever change that.
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Mad Ahab
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Posted - 2005.07.09 19:10:00 -
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When I saw this on the news I was quite upset and had to wait a couple of days to be able to write something that would be civil and coherent. It amazes me the depths people sink to attempt to make their agendas and ideals, no matter how perverse, manifest. It sickens me that innocent people anywhere must be the targets of such cruelty. I have friends in the UK and I hope you are all well. I give my sincerest and most heartfelt condolences to the people who lost loved ones because of this attack.
Anyone who could do something like this without a thought of the innocent people they will harm are monsters, inhuman slime that grace us when they breathe their last breaths. At least any war the English fought was a war in which they looked their enemy straight in the eye. Anyone who has to hide behind a building and target civilians specifically is a vile coward. But this isn't about them I suppose. This is about you and your welfare. I see the rebuilding has already begun and the spirit of the English is still as strong as ever. I imagine that this will be countered with resilience and of course dry wit :) I am from The United States and I suppose I can't make any comments about the English way as it is not something I know. But I do know that England was one of the largest empires and that they tend to be victorious in the face of adversity. We may not always be the most considerate neighbor, but some of us feel that England will always historically be our mother country. You have relatives here that mourn your losses and pray for you. I only hope that this did not come across as message of hate for who did this, but more as a message of sympathy for England and her people.
I wish you well.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.07.09 21:32:00 -
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Im a third generation American mix and half my extended family still lives in both Scotland and Ireland. I worried intensely when I heard about this but if I know my relatives as well as I think I know them,well then the Black Watch is going to put a boot in someones ass soon so I am not all that worried anymore.
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Posted - 2005.07.09 22:01:00 -
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theyre evacuating birmingham tonight , over 30000 people so far , in response to a terrorist threat . apparently 1 controlled explosion has taken place
TRIGGER > time to die
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Posted - 2005.07.11 12:44:00 -
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Not sure how i managed it but i seem to of missed a story very close to home.
My ex-girlfriend, Yvonne Nash lost her ex-boyfriend (before me) of 5 years on the bus. Despite what the Mirror says, they were not boyfriend/girlfriend but people who had split and remained very, very good friends. I met him twice, once socialy and then once at her mum's, Pat Nash's wake. I have to say that in the twice I met Jamie, he was a totaly nice guy, great fun and very easy going.
Don't know where you are now Jamie but, have a pint, I will for you tonight mate.
Yvonne has now lost her mum and now a very, very close friend of 7 years in the past 8 months. Does life get more ****?
My deepest sympathy and wishes go out to her and all the other people affected by this.
Darwin 4tw
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Posted - 2005.07.11 13:50:00 -
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Edited by: 0seeker0 on 11/07/2005 13:50:59
The past week;
3 tube trains, 1 bus.
Birmingham evacuated
Leeds centre evacuated yesterday.
Today whitehall in london has been evacuated... so im told. (BBC has said nothing on leeds or whitehall, so far as i am aware)
Other things (hint; police snipers, HSBC tower, suicide bombers) we arnt supposed to talk about.
I and my freinds know from past experience that we are not allowed to say what we feel on open forums. Lets just put it this way; many of the most popular islamic websites came down for "maintenance" after the bombs. I am an Englishman and dont put up with having my country pulled from under me.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2005.07.11 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ly'sol
"My I do say, Looks like a bit of rain today. Bloody hell."
I saw one women who was very shaken, brushing glass off her shouldres as she gave a breif interview, minor cuts, the interviewer asked another question and the woman excused herself and said she had to get to work!
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2005.07.11 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Galadriel
No lies no rumors no bull****.
Not the whole truth though... i understand your sentiments, i used to trust the police too.
Did you know they were running a security "exercise" in the exact same stations at the time they blew up? heh, were they heck, they were warned in advance but didnt want to warn us for various reasons. They arnt making that mistake twice which is why they are evacuating all the places i mentioned above (and maybe more)
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2005.07.11 17:46:00 -
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And now reports are coming in of kings cross being evacuated..
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2005.07.11 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: 0seeker0 on 11/07/2005 18:57:12
Linkage
Security "exercise" at the time of the blasts. BBC? lol lol. The police website? nah, im sorry, we do not live in a free world no more guys and the bbc is no longer impartial, you found this out from a games forum.
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Hella May
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Posted - 2005.07.12 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Hella May on 12/07/2005 12:38:35
Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
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Hella May
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Posted - 2005.07.12 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: 0seeker0
Edited by: 0seeker0 on 11/07/2005 14:11:48
Edited by: 0seeker0 on 11/07/2005 13:50:59
The past week;
Leeds centre evacuated yesterday.
Seeker.
Did I miss some thing?
I am presently working in LS1 (Leeds Centre) about 100 yards from the train station. I was not evacuated and our building is one of the main ones in the area.
Only issue was at Leeds bus station (miles out of leeds) where an old bird left her luggage behind by accident and the police blew it up.
Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2005.07.12 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: 0seeker0 on 12/07/2005 14:01:43
Originally by: Hella May
Did I miss some thing?.......
...........Only issue was at Leeds bus station (miles out of leeds)
From the BBC report (one day late) found Here
Quote:
The bus and coach terminal and streets within a 200-metre radius were closed by police on Sunday afternoon after reports of a suspect package...
...Leeds City Bus Station sits on York Street, at the south end of the city centre.
Traffic was diverted away from the area for about four hours on Sunday, although a police spokeswoman described the incident as a "limited evacuation".
West Yorkshire Police thanked members of the public removed from the area for their patience during the security alert.
Trust me :)
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Hella May
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Posted - 2005.07.12 15:56:00 -
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The bus station isnt the centre of leeds.
Oh.... And trust no one but yourself
Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2005.07.12 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: 0seeker0 on 12/07/2005 16:23:34
Confirmed; The attacks were by suicide bombers.
Strong speculation that military grade explosives were used.
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.07.12 18:18:00 -
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News on the TV at the moment, they suspect 4 men carried out the attacks, 3 are dead and 1 has just been arrested
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Posted - 2005.07.12 19:26:00 -
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Don't think I agree that this is what should happen, but it's been said on the Internet, and not a race hate site either:
One possible response is to turn the area all the way from Morocco to India into a sea of green glowing glass. **** off the West enough, and it WILL happen.
Personally, I think that the best long-term response to this sort of insanity is to properly develop alternative energy sources (space power satellites? ocean thermal? wave power?) so that the mediaeval theocracies funding it haven't got the money to do it any more. Let's see if they can eat their (expletive deleted) oil!
and, no, this isn't an attack on Islam, it's an attack on certain extremists with attitudes a millennium out of date.
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Posted - 2005.07.13 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 13/07/2005 14:46:07
Originally by: vanBuskirk
One possible response is to turn the area all the way from Morocco to India into a sea of green glowing glass. **** off the West enough, and it WILL happen.
Well, as someone who belongs to somewhere between morroco and india, let me say "f*** you" to each and everyone advocating that. It amazes me how people can so casually suggest snuffing out billions of people because of the action of a few. Its really no one's fault other than those who carried out the attack and those who offered direct support.
The oil funding idea is another winner. These attacks are dirt cheap, and cost pennies and dimes. There is no artery that extends from oil revenue into the heart of terrorism. These attacks are cheap enough they don't require it. These are not $2M cruise missles being launched. I do agree about the alternative energy tho, but only because I think oil is limited and civilization today has the know how to avoid using the black goop coming out of the ground. Realistically speaking, the alternatives are out there for power generation and transport, with the exception of air travel.
I'm not going to go into the causes of Terrorism, because there no two people can agree on its motives, and because it is largely unjustifiable. One important element is the 'passive support' factor. This is when you hear about Arabs or Muslims arguing that terrorism is wrong, but not being actively against it, or others who praise the attackers. Tom Friedman draws a good analogy for this with the O.J. Simpson trials in the US. African Americans were happy with the verdict because it was a blow for the LAPD, which was long known for racial abuse. They did know, like everyone else tho that the evidence likely meant that OJ was guilty (certainly terrorists of today are condemned on much less evidence). The same analogy can be drawn here, they blame the west for ongoing conflicts, border disputes, or being chummy with the local despot (Laura Bush exchanging pleasantries with Suzanne Mubarak ftw). So when something bad happens in London or New York, they condemn it because they know its wrong, but dont take any real action (at the individual level) because it harms a government they have no love for. Remember, they look at casualty numbers in London, Madrid or other attack sites with the same indifference someone in those cities reads Iraqi or Palestenian casuality reports.
But fortunately, the tide is changing. Lots of people in the arab world went out of their way to express their anger with the act, and drown out the voices that attempt to justify it. In the end, everyone does as they please. No amount of clerical preaching for any cause or television shows will dissuade someone. It was never an issue of asymmetic warfare, because in this case the whole war is entirely unnecessary.
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Posted - 2005.07.14 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin
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But fortunately, the tide is changing. Lots of people in the arab world went out of their way to express their anger with the act, and drown out the voices that attempt to justify it.....
I have to say I have noticed this change as well. Two friends of mine (Jamie (now deceased)and Yvonne) had nothing to do with the politics that have caused this.
Jamie was nothing but a top bloke everytime i met him despite it being very awkard. He wasnt in a job that affected politics, he had no power with the goverment, he ate from Pizza Hut, used the same electricity we did, drank the same water...
Why do this family of bombers think that they are furthering there cause by blowing up these people?
I guess I could never be a terrorist because I just don't understand this.
2 minutes silence for you Jamie and Yvonne, and all the others..... thinking of ya.
Darwin 4tw
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As sad as the occasion was I feel an enormous amount of pride in what I just witnessed. I stood on Edgware road with both sides full of people, all traffic stopped, observing the silence. I had a huge lump in my throat.
<3 to all fellow Londoners.
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Saladin
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Edited by: Saladin on 14/07/2005 17:04:53
Among praiseworthy men, the most praiseworthy are leaders and founders of religeons; after them come founders of republics and kingdoms; next most to be praise are those who, as commanders of armies, have extended the boundaries of their kingdom or country. To these we add men of letters and, since these are of various kinds, they are honored according to their rank. To all other men, who are infinite in number, we assign some measure of praise in the degree they merit it through their occupation or craft. Infamous and detestable, on the other hand, are the destroyers of religion, the wreckers of kingdoms and republics, the enemies of virtue, of learning, and of every other art that benifits and honors the human reace. Such are the irreligious, the violent, the ignorant, the useless, the slothful, the cowardly. There will never be anyone so ignorant or so wise, so bad or so good, who being asked to choose between one kind of men and the other, will not praise the praiseworthy and censure the blameworthy. Nonetheless, nearly all men, deceived by a seeming good or a seeming glory, willingly or unknowingly slip into the ranks of those who are more deserving of blame than of praise; and being able to establish a kingdom or a republic that would win them ever lasting honor, they establish a tyranny instead. They do not realize how much fame, how much glory, how much honor, security, tranquillity and satisfaction of mind they lose by this choice, and how much infamy, shame, censure, danger and affliction they incur.
Niccolo Machiavelli 1512.
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Alita Tiphares
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Posted - 2005.07.15 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Alejandro Zapata
Originally by: Alita Tiphares
Originally by: Fedaykin
Let me just post a link to a flash video to do the talking instead. What applies to America here applies to Britain just as well.
great flash
NOT a great flash. Keep your politics to yourself and blame the people that did this act not those that might or might not be indirectly responsible in these dark hours. These people who perpetrate these acts have and always will seek to harm those that are different from them.
My prayers go out to those affected by this barbarism.
ill keep my politics to myself if you keep your religious mumbo jumbo to yourself.
england sponsored a war that led to the deaths of over 4000 civilians, excuse me if i dont shed a tear for 50 dead brits.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2005.07.15 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Alita Tiphares
england sponsored a war that led to the deaths of over 4000 civilians, excuse me if i dont shed a tear for 50 dead brits.
May i ask you if your a muslim like the iraq'is? And it wasnt England, it was Britain. I take it your American from that gaffe. What is your feelings on 9/11? do you have any? people on this thread have lost freinds you know.
seeker
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.07.15 23:06:00 -
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Looks like the chemist suspected of making the explosives has been arrested in Cairo. Although there is no extradition treaty between Egypt and the UK, hopefully they can arrange an exchange and wanted militant leaders in UK like Shiekh Hamza and Yusuf Al-Karadawy can be handed over to Egyptian authorities in return for the chemist. |
0seeker0
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Edited by: 0seeker0 on 15/07/2005 23:24:49
Edited by: 0seeker0 on 15/07/2005 23:24:21
Originally by: Saladin
Looks like the chemist suspected of making the explosives has been arrested in Cairo. Although there is no extradition treaty between Egypt and the UK, hopefully they can arrange an exchange and wanted militant leaders in UK like Shiekh Hamza and Yusuf Al-Karadawy can be handed over to Egyptian authorities in return for the chemist.
Lol, i kid you not, Egypt has been cursing us for helping terrorists, there have even been calls for us to be put on the list of states that sponsor terrorists!
Quote:
"It was never understood why British authorities gave refuge to suspicious characters previously involved in terrorist activities. Why would Britain grant asylum to Arabs who have been convicted of political crimes or religious extremism, or even sentenced to death? Not only were they admitted to this country, but they were also provided with accommodation, a monthly salary, and free legal advice for those who want to prosecute the British government...... "
"......Britain has shut its ears [to hearing] the words of people who stood out as extremists; [it has shut its eyes to seeing] that every day they take in more activists, collect large donations, and expose their goals via the media; [and it has avoided seeing how] the papers and the media defend their terrorism. So it was unavoidable that London would, one day, fall victim to this leniency û because these base wild beasts do not differentiate between those who protect them and those who persecute them." [2]
Etc.
Read more Here
also there have been plenty more evacuations but they have just been people getting jumpy. It seems for now they are lying low. Hopefully we dont get anymore, hopefully, God willing. (or should that be allah willing, seen as we are all supposed to act like dhimmi's in our own country now incase we offend one of the poor lambs )
Seeker.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
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Mad Ahab
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Posted - 2005.07.16 15:15:00 -
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Edited by: Mad Ahab on 17/07/2005 00:04:22
Originally by: Alita Tiphares
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england sponsored a war that led to the deaths of over 4000 civilians, excuse me if i dont shed a tear for 50 dead brits.
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Interesting. So we can rejoice in the deaths of the British but not in the deaths of Iraqi civilians? How about the deaths in other countries that aren't part of this war? How about the hijackings and bombings that happened years and years before this war? I guess those people deserved it too?
What rubbish! If you cannot be sad for all of the innocent people that die, whether they are Afghani, Iraqi, British or whomever, then you are just as bad as the "warmongers" you so condemn.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.07.17 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 17/07/2005 02:14:49
Originally by: 0seeker0
Lol, i kid you not, Egypt has been cursing us for helping terrorists, there have even been calls for us to be put on the list of states that sponsor terrorists!
Quote:
"It was never understood why British authorities gave refuge to suspicious characters previously involved in terrorist activities. Why would Britain grant asylum to Arabs who have been convicted of political crimes or religious extremism, or even sentenced to death? Not only were they admitted to this country, but they were also provided with accommodation, a monthly salary, and free legal advice for those who want to prosecute the British government...... "
"......Britain has shut its ears [to hearing] the words of people who stood out as extremists; [it has shut its eyes to seeing] that every day they take in more activists, collect large donations, and expose their goals via the media; [and it has avoided seeing how] the papers and the media defend their terrorism. So it was unavoidable that London would, one day, fall victim to this leniency û because these base wild beasts do not differentiate between those who protect them and those who persecute them." [2]
Etc.
Read more Here
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floggar
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Posted - 2005.07.17 09:16:00 -
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ill keep my politics to myself if you keep your religious mumbo jumbo to yourself.
england sponsored a war that led to the deaths of over 4000 civilians, excuse me if i dont shed a tear for 50 dead brits.
you are a complete moron. Excuse you if you dont shed a tear for 50 dead brits??? You are cold.
England sponsored a war??? What are they, a corporation trying to do advertising?
Since your so worried about the Iraqi civilians, how many civilians a year do you think ******* killed? All the mass graves that have been dug up and bodies exhumed from them might just give you a clue. Were you talking crap while he was killing civilians? Heres a clue for you, terrorism was around before the wars, and was even around before GW bush.
Now is not the time for lame politics and comments like yours.
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Sherkaner
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Posted - 2005.07.17 17:10:00 -
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This thread is going way too far into the realm of politic discussion now. The EVE forums are not the right place for this, so it will be locked.
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