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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:26:00 -
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Here's my plan for attacking the Caldari. 1. I'll make a new post on Missle Nefing and the Physics of big torps and small ships vs Everything always looks bigger in the rear mirror!
2. After 30 minutes they'll all be in the forums whining and flaming, then we strike and rename their home worlds again.
3. To keep the Amarr at bay we tell them the Minmatar have discovered a gold plate eating virus.
Faulty testing kept me from delivering the "Logic Editor" earlier.
I was using my own post and it kept blanking everything out.
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Akaviri
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:31:00 -
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Just read the descriptions of the Federation Navy and the Caldari Navy. The Caldari have the more powerful navy, due to the stupid budget cuts that have slashed funding to the Federation Navy.
However, in a fleet battle the Gallente hold a large advantage due to the ability to focus fire and have instant damage. But then, the Caldari have EW ships. But then that's partly negated since the Gallente have some EW ships as well. Also, the battleships in the Gallente fleet can just use smartbombs to defend against incoming missles.
The Caldari won't be able to win any large engagements, so they'd be forced to operate in smaller groups. They would be difficult to stop. I think any real conflict would come down to who has the better leaders and pilots.
Originally by: Nostradamu5 Here's my plan for attacking the Caldari. 1. I'll make a new post on Missle Nefing and the Physics of big torps and small ships vs Everything always looks bigger in the rear mirror!
2. After 30 minutes they'll all be in the forums whining and flaming, then we strike and rename their home worlds again.
3. To keep the Amarr at bay we tell them the Minmatar have discovered a gold plate eating virus.
Excellent plan. See we have better leaders! ````````````` _ |\_ ````````````` \` oo\ ````````_____/ =__Y= `````` /` `````` ) `_``` / ` , ``` \/\_.(\_/) ((____| `` )_--\ \_-`(x.x) `------'`------` `--` (> <) Kitty pwns Bunny! |
lheila
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:31:00 -
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The thing with missiles is quite simple to stop, due to Gallente do have defenders who can take care of them quite good but defeating +15 drones / BS will for sure be a mess plus all gallentes can fit alot of turrets
(We do have minmatar snipers that do can take care of long range ravens with missiles ) So whats your choice, go close fear the drones , go in range, fear the snipers tempest And go real close then feel the "Jack the Ripper" Megathron blasters.
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M'tel Ankari
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:50:00 -
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Gallente Fleet warps in at 100km from Caldari Fleet
Caldari FC calls primary target, Megathron #1 Gallente FC calls primary target, Scorpion #1 Scorpion #1 Blows up Gallente FC calls next primary target, Scorpion #2 Scorpion #2 Blows up Megathron #1 warps out Caldari FC calls primary target, Megathron #2 Gallente FC calls primary target, Raven #1 Raven #1 Blows up Megathron #2 warps out Gallente FC calls primary target, Raven #2 Caldari FC calls primary target, Megathron #3 Raven #2 Blows up Megathron #1 warps in Megathron #3 warps out ...
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Sentani
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: Sentani on 08/07/2005 20:00:09 ok what would a gallente-minmatar fleet vs a caldari-amaar fleet look like ?
theoraticly spealing
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:05:00 -
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with or without dreads?
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Sentani
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:07:00 -
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anything... a full battle with dreads, frigs, cruisers and BS...
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Galk on 08/07/2005 20:25:20 Edited by: Galk on 08/07/2005 20:23:49
Originally by: Sentani Edited by: Sentani on 08/07/2005 20:00:09 ok what would a gallente-minmatar fleet vs a caldari-amaar fleet look like ?
theoraticly spealing
A bunch of stylish looks guys with there hip trendy looking allies towering over their, punk, freakish no whit backwards looking buddies.. who don't know the meaning of the word skincream...
Maybe --------
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Khes
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:25:00 -
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I have nothing against the Gallente. (My moms Gallente) But Caldari would win because of our determination and patriotic upbringing. All of the Caldari State's resources devoted to a single cause (destroying the Gallente) could not be stopped.
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Golden Helmet
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:27:00 -
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In a Gallente Vs Caldari war (not including ammar or minmitar or whoever else), the Gallente would probaly win. If each race stuck to their own ships, Caldari would be mostly missles and Gallente mostly turrets and drones. Gallante has only to load up a smatbomb or two, start pounding at caldari with the rails and drones, and courtesy of the Smartbombs the torps\missles will only rarely hit a Caldari ship. Over time, the Gallente's would wear down the Caldari, and they'd probaly win.
That's how i think it'd go anyways, assuming no other races\factions didn't interfere. Note to all my fellow Caldari's: find a new ship, one that dosent rely on missles, then we can pwn the Gallente fleets :P
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lheila
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:28:00 -
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Dreads spread around far behind with supports ships. Concentrating on dreads.
Cloak ships drops cans ontop on enemy once fleet battle starts and a few hundreds of megathrons with blasters warps in and smacks up everything bigger than frigs.
In a scenario like that they would probably leave and start peace talk again (Surrender big time), oh one more thing. A Jove titan would uncloak in the middle of the battle right before they leave just for the fact they can :) Or demostrate a large smartbomb wiping up an area of +150km
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Kalened
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:36:00 -
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The simple fact that the Caldari have already won their independence should say all that needs to be said. Caldari have always been one step ahead of the Gallentians. Gallente has hit such a hard time that it's had to resort to allying with slaves. Pathetic if you ask me. What do they hope to gain from such an obvious sign of weakness? Amarrians see the strength in the rising tide that is Caldari. The cold war will turn quickly into a campaign of subjugating the weak. Long live Caldari!
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Drutort
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Posted - 2005.07.08 21:00:00 -
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Bah drones donĘt mean a thing if you can spam missiles from long range and have a fleet of scorps that can jam just about anything, even your dreadnoughts :P of course caldari will win
and if we wanted to create fleet of smartbomb BS tanked a bit and bye bye to the rest of the drones
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.08 21:02:00 -
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Good god guys stop suggesting smartbomb BSes in fleet battles. Thats 1 guaranteed way to kill half your fleet before the first shot is even fired by the other side. Also you cannot jam dreadnoughts when their in siege mode so gg to the scorps while they get picked off .
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.07.08 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened The simple fact that the Caldari have already won their independence should say all that needs to be said.
Ya ... it says you don't have to stay in the Federation if you don't want to. We're a democracy
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Dexus
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Posted - 2005.07.08 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Drutort Bah drones donĘt mean a thing if you can spam missiles from long range and have a fleet of scorps that can jam just about anything, even your dreadnoughts :P of course caldari will win
and if we wanted to create fleet of smartbomb BS tanked a bit and bye bye to the rest of the drones
and how fast do missles go? If you see a swarm of missles comming at you, the smartest thing to do is to warp out It will take hours for the missles to reach their targets in long range, EW doesnt work in long range either.
Gallente-All it takes is a rack of rails, and a bay full of scout drones (for the frigs), and gallante win \0/ btw: SBs on missle boats? LOL Gal will defineffly win then!
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Fortior
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:01:00 -
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I'm thinking that smartbombs will help Caldari more now, since all missiles are _alot_ faster. That will make it very hard to time them in order to destroy incoming torps and cruises. Meanwhile, the SB's while be quite hard on the drones
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Tochik Nhill
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:03:00 -
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SB + shield boosting + weaponry means that the capacitor is going to drop quickly. They may eliminate the drones, but at the cost of how much remaining cap to take on the remaining fleet of rails/blasters? -------------------- The best way to explain the missile changes is to liken it to throwing a banana at a housefly. Can you hit a housefly with a banana? |
SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:06:00 -
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ok lets see... each ship will have to be 7.5km from each other otherwise risk fratricide. You will not have any frig support to hold the enemy ships down and the ships at the back will have no missiles as they wont be able to fly thru the multiple SBs going off. That nullfies half your fleet. Upclose the blasterthron is king and i doubt you'll get more than 3-4SBs off before your inbox starts blinking.
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Hikaru Okuda
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:15:00 -
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Both sides forget to register the war with CONCORD and everyone gets CONCORDOKKEN'd :)
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Tochik Nhill
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:16:00 -
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Quote: before your inbox starts blinking.
lolz, I love that wording -------------------- The best way to explain the missile changes is to liken it to throwing a banana at a housefly. Can you hit a housefly with a banana? |
Blydchyld
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:18:00 -
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Guys watching those dreadys on the test server if ANY dreadys got involved the caldari would wtfomgbbqpwn.
I saw 1 Pheonix annihilate 3 gallente dreadys from 90k in seige mode that means they cant move, at 90km the caldari dreadys would rip apart all ships bigger than a cruiser.
I bet Caldari 4 teh w1n!!!11eleven!!!
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Drutort
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Posted - 2005.07.08 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: SengH ok lets see... each ship will have to be 7.5km from each other otherwise risk fratricide. You will not have any frig support to hold the enemy ships down and the ships at the back will have no missiles as they wont be able to fly thru the multiple SBs going off. That nullfies half your fleet. Upclose the blasterthron is king and i doubt you'll get more than 3-4SBs off before your inbox starts blinking.
what are you talking about who said that the missiles had to be fired were the sb bs are? unless the commander is that stupid, and did you forget support/logi ships?
also did you forget other things like tracking disruptors... put a few on a dread, and lets see if they will hit anything at all then it will be missiles 4tw again
there are so many other tactical strategies, just because you dont see them or havent used doesnt mean they dont exist or dont work, do you also know the lock time on dreads when in siege mode? you could probably warp out if they are starting to target you and comeback in GG
and for those who think missiles are slow, look at the ship bonus + the new skills then tell me how slow missiles are
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Demetrius Carnigie
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Posted - 2005.07.08 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Demetrius Carnigie on 08/07/2005 23:20:27 sorry, - lies
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.08 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: SengH on 08/07/2005 23:30:53 Edited by: SengH on 08/07/2005 23:27:30 I have a bit of time.. just a bit to break down your argument
Originally by: Drutort
what are you talking about who said that the missiles had to be fired were the sb bs are? unless the commander is that stupid, and did you forget support/logi ships?
The commander is stupid if he tells half his fleet to use SBs in fleet battles. Theres a reason WHY the arent used at all during fleet battles.
Originally by: Drutort
also did you forget other things like tracking disruptors... put a few on a dread, and lets see if they will hit anything at all then it will be missiles 4tw again
look at the range on the tracking disruptors then come back
Originally by: Drutort
there are so many other tactical strategies, just because you dont see them or havent used doesnt mean they dont exist or dont work, do you also know the lock time on dreads when in siege mode?
you could probably warp out if they are starting to target you and comeback in GG
I take it you havent been in a fleet battle before. Theres too many targets on your overview and you dont warp out when 1 person locks you. You warp out when their whole fleet starts flashing yellow :P
Originally by: Drutort
and for those who think missiles are slow, look at the ship bonus + the new skills then tell me how slow missiles are
they are by no means slow but the time it takes to lock and plus the further time it takes for the missiles to reach their target by that time that target will have been long gone.
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Jester87
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Posted - 2005.07.08 23:32:00 -
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Caldari because they have better tech and stuff... Also in the Minmatar helped the Gallente, the Amarr would help the Caldari and then Minmatar and Gallente would be screwed... Cause Amarr = pwnage.
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Darkside101
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Posted - 2005.07.08 23:38:00 -
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CALDARI, no contest, no help.
my version of the battle
100 mega < 100 scorps
put every caldari pilot in an ew ship scorp and fit 3 large smartbombs and 3 425 rails or bb's with 3 assault lanchers and an auto targeter for any pesky frigs,
END OF WAR
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.08 23:41:00 -
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*starts taking names of people never to fly with in a fleet battles*
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD smartbombs are not an effective fleet battle weapons :P Also what if the megas stay outside ecm range with rails . Dead caldari fleet. Also lol have fun coordinating 100 ECM targets among 100 people... id hate to be that fleet commander.
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Tulor
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Posted - 2005.07.09 01:06:00 -
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Seng, have you ever looked at the range of ECM's on scorps with good skills?
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.07.09 01:13:00 -
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Corporate warfare is the way of the future, empire wars are so DAoC.
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