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ThiefKiller2
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Posted - 2005.07.08 16:44:00 -
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If these 2 races went to war who would u put ur money on to win and would other races ally with them
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2005.07.08 16:48:00 -
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Caldari definitely..
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.07.08 16:49:00 -
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Gallente, of course. We would subjugate the moralities (such as they are) of the Caldari race by wideband broadcasts of Holoreel ****ography into their territory. We'd invade and take control with nary a shot, after the initial tactic left their lonely pilots with so little strength. :)
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.07.08 16:54:00 -
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I thought that was our anti-Amarrian tactics Winter. You know, with all them priestlike religious types a bit of good old fashioned 20th century debauchery never fails to score.
As for the caldari, I'd expect we'd simply call on our great deity of TomBius to smite the Caldari's weapons after which we subdue them with our scout drones.
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Lonagan
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:03:00 -
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Gallentte Blind Folded
The might of the federation would be 2 much
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:05:00 -
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we would just warp in with 100 dominixes, unload our drones and watch all the caldari pilots suddenly disapear from space in utter fear of our blob.
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Sentani
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:06:00 -
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the galltentes are like 2x bigger... and the galltentes would get help from the mimatar...
minmatars dosnt exacly love the caldaris ...
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Galk on 08/07/2005 17:09:44
I got this glorious vision where we all live in peace.
You can see it shinning in caldari's forehead
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Tochik Nhill
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:10:00 -
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Wasn't the math recently done on Gallente tech 2 Ogre drones, doing near 1050 damage per second for 15 of them?
That's some hefty damage from drones alone, not including guns and armor tanking on the gallente side.
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Bohoba
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:11:00 -
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Cald of course :) well in 60 days or so with the missile Nerf a shuttle would win hands down :)
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Tekka Nub
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Tekka Nub on 08/07/2005 17:14:03
%*#&%*(#^%*&#(
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Tekka
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Omber Zombie
we would just warp in with 100 dominixes, unload our drones and watch all the caldari pilots suddenly disapear from space in utter fear of our blob.
Obviously they would all CTD and loose connection from the sudden lag of the drone blobage
Heres a tissue for you whiners
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Omber Zombie
we would just warp in with 100 dominixes, unload our drones and watch all the caldari pilots suddenly disapear from space in utter fear of our blob.
I think its safer to assume we don't need BIG battleships to gain victory (should the worst come to the worst)
All we need is frigs... lots of um
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Layrex
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: Layrex on 08/07/2005 17:29:17
Sry double post. :/
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Layrex
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:29:00 -
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Probably Gallante with drones and the missle nerf. 
Although... We have long range Ravens waste their battleships before drones can do anything, and then rail ships pop the frigs. Could work. 
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Tacnafarias
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sentani
the galltentes are like 2x bigger... and the galltentes would get help from the mimatar...
minmatars dosnt exacly love the caldaris...
And if the Minmatars got involved I don't think we'd try to restrain the Amarr, or Khanid Kingdom, both good friends of ours. 
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:35:00 -
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On military grounds, the Caldari can probably fight the Federation to a standstill: they've done so before.
On economic grounds, the Federation is bound to win in the long run; it's just bigger. But such a victory would in effect destroy BOTH empires. That's why they negotiated a settlement last time.
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Sanalsa
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:41:00 -
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The only reason the federation didnt win last time beceause the caldari had technological help from the jovians
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:46:00 -
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As Lord Xantos mentioned the Amarrians would help the Caldari so Caldari would have won.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.07.08 17:59:00 -
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You're making the flawed assumption that the Amarr would add anything to either side of a conflict. :)
The only allies that would be effetive would be the minmatar, really. They'd warp in, everyone would laugh at the rickety old rustbuckets they fly, and while we're busy trying to wipe the tears from our eyes they'd be putting holes in our ships. :)
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ThiefKiller2
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Posted - 2005.07.08 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
You're making the flawed assumption that the Amarr would add anything to either side of a conflict. :)
The only allies that would be effetive would be the minmatar, really. They'd warp in, everyone would laugh at the rickety old rustbuckets they fly, and while we're busy trying to wipe the tears from our eyes they'd be putting holes in our ships. :)
LOL True
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.07.08 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
You're making the flawed assumption that the Amarr would add anything to either side of a conflict. :)
Apart for the need for airfreshers.
Amarr are like the caldari anyhow.. nothing down below, or in the head... not even looks to fall back on...
How could we ever lose?
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Sentani
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Posted - 2005.07.08 18:12:00 -
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i dont think the amaars would help the caldari...
they are allmost in a state of civil war rigth now...
and they would probably do like the sovjets di in WW2 in poland and just go in and steal the scraps
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Spaja Saist
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Posted - 2005.07.08 18:54:00 -
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Gallente of course.
We already kicked the Caldari off their homeworld once.
We can always do it again.
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MrBadz0r
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:00:00 -
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/me straps 50 citadel torps to his crow
/me heads for the nearest domi
/me sets for RAMMING SPEED
;)
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:02:00 -
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I'd say the angel cartel would pwn everyone if they actually used half decent configs on all their ships(stop using mines and 280mms on your battleships).... Have you seen their fleets floating around in hisec space? their like 10-20x bigger than any empire presence there. And their pilots have crazy skills... they can make a battleship go 800m/s on a 1mn mwd. I'd hate to see em using real mods.
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O'knar
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:05:00 -
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once we're able to train new missile skillz, nothing could stop the most advanced fleet in EVE, the Caldari Navy. Kestrels, Caracals, Ravens, all will swoop in, raining a sh!t storm of missiles. Nothing will survive the missiles of DOOM!
LONG LIVE CALDARI! AND DEATH TO ALL OPPOSITION!
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: O'knar
once we're able to train new missile skillz, nothing could stop the most advanced fleet in EVE, the Caldari Navy. Kestrels, Caracals, Ravens, all will swoop in, raining a sh!t storm of missiles. Nothing will survive the missiles of DOOM!
LONG LIVE CALDARI! AND DEATH TO ALL OPPOSITION!
except a ship with 2-3 large smartbombs :)
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:07:00 -
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10 gallente dreadnoughts :P go into siege mode. Deploy drones.... bye bye caldari fleet :P
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Akaviri
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tochik Nhill
Wasn't the math recently done on Gallente tech 2 Ogre drones, doing near 1050 damage per second for 15 of them?
That's some hefty damage from drones alone, not including guns and armor tanking on the gallente side.
Nope
15 Ogre II's would do 435.6 dmg/sec
35 Ogre II's would do 1016.4 dmg/sec
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:26:00 -
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Here's my plan for attacking the Caldari.
1. I'll make a new post on Missle Nefing and the Physics of big torps and small ships vs Everything always looks bigger in the rear mirror!
2. After 30 minutes they'll all be in the forums whining and flaming, then we strike and rename their home worlds again.
3. To keep the Amarr at bay we tell them the Minmatar have discovered a gold plate eating virus.
Faulty testing kept me from delivering the "Logic Editor" earlier.
I was using my own post and it kept blanking everything out.
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Akaviri
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:31:00 -
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Just read the descriptions of the Federation Navy and the Caldari Navy. The Caldari have the more powerful navy, due to the stupid budget cuts that have slashed funding to the Federation Navy.
However, in a fleet battle the Gallente hold a large advantage due to the ability to focus fire and have instant damage. But then, the Caldari have EW ships. But then that's partly negated since the Gallente have some EW ships as well. Also, the battleships in the Gallente fleet can just use smartbombs to defend against incoming missles.
The Caldari won't be able to win any large engagements, so they'd be forced to operate in smaller groups. They would be difficult to stop. I think any real conflict would come down to who has the better leaders and pilots.
Originally by: Nostradamu5
Here's my plan for attacking the Caldari.
1. I'll make a new post on Missle Nefing and the Physics of big torps and small ships vs Everything always looks bigger in the rear mirror!
2. After 30 minutes they'll all be in the forums whining and flaming, then we strike and rename their home worlds again.
3. To keep the Amarr at bay we tell them the Minmatar have discovered a gold plate eating virus.
Excellent plan. See we have better leaders!
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lheila
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:31:00 -
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The thing with missiles is quite simple to stop, due to Gallente do have defenders who can take care of them quite good but defeating +15 drones / BS will for sure be a mess plus all gallentes can fit alot of turrets
(We do have minmatar snipers that do can take care of long range ravens with missiles ) So whats your choice, go close fear the drones , go in range, fear the snipers tempest And go real close then feel the "Jack the Ripper" Megathron blasters.
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M'tel Ankari
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Posted - 2005.07.08 19:50:00 -
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Gallente Fleet warps in at 100km from Caldari Fleet
Caldari FC calls primary target, Megathron #1
Gallente FC calls primary target, Scorpion #1
Scorpion #1 Blows up
Gallente FC calls next primary target, Scorpion #2
Scorpion #2 Blows up
Megathron #1 warps out
Caldari FC calls primary target, Megathron #2
Gallente FC calls primary target, Raven #1
Raven #1 Blows up
Megathron #2 warps out
Gallente FC calls primary target, Raven #2
Caldari FC calls primary target, Megathron #3
Raven #2 Blows up
Megathron #1 warps in
Megathron #3 warps out
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Sentani
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: Sentani on 08/07/2005 20:00:09
ok what would a gallente-minmatar fleet vs a caldari-amaar fleet look like ?
theoraticly spealing
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:05:00 -
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with or without dreads?
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Sentani
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:07:00 -
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anything... a full battle with dreads, frigs, cruisers and BS...
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Galk on 08/07/2005 20:25:20
Edited by: Galk on 08/07/2005 20:23:49
Originally by: Sentani
Edited by: Sentani on 08/07/2005 20:00:09
ok what would a gallente-minmatar fleet vs a caldari-amaar fleet look like ?
theoraticly spealing
A bunch of stylish looks guys with there hip trendy looking allies towering over their, punk, freakish no whit backwards looking buddies.. who don't know the meaning of the word skincream...
Maybe
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Khes
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:25:00 -
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I have nothing against the Gallente. (My moms Gallente) But Caldari would win because of our determination and patriotic upbringing. All of the Caldari State's resources devoted to a single cause (destroying the Gallente) could not be stopped.
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Golden Helmet
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:27:00 -
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In a Gallente Vs Caldari war (not including ammar or minmitar or whoever else), the Gallente would probaly win. If each race stuck to their own ships, Caldari would be mostly missles and Gallente mostly turrets and drones. Gallante has only to load up a smatbomb or two, start pounding at caldari with the rails and drones, and courtesy of the Smartbombs the torps\missles will only rarely hit a Caldari ship. Over time, the Gallente's would wear down the Caldari, and they'd probaly win.
That's how i think it'd go anyways, assuming no other races\factions didn't interfere. Note to all my fellow Caldari's: find a new ship, one that dosent rely on missles, then we can pwn the Gallente fleets :P
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lheila
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:28:00 -
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Dreads spread around far behind with supports ships.
Concentrating on dreads.
Cloak ships drops cans ontop on enemy once fleet battle starts and a few hundreds of megathrons with blasters warps in and smacks up everything bigger than frigs.
In a scenario like that they would probably leave and start peace talk again (Surrender big time), oh one more thing. A Jove titan would uncloak in the middle of the battle right before they leave just for the fact they can :)
Or demostrate a large smartbomb wiping up an area of +150km 
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Kalened
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:36:00 -
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The simple fact that the Caldari have already won their independence should say all that needs to be said. Caldari have always been one step ahead of the Gallentians. Gallente has hit such a hard time that it's had to resort to allying with slaves. Pathetic if you ask me. What do they hope to gain from such an obvious sign of weakness? Amarrians see the strength in the rising tide that is Caldari. The cold war will turn quickly into a campaign of subjugating the weak. Long live Caldari!
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Drutort
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Posted - 2005.07.08 21:00:00 -
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Bah drones donÆt mean a thing if you can spam missiles from long range and have a fleet of scorps that can jam just about anything, even your dreadnoughts :P of course caldari will win
and if we wanted to create fleet of smartbomb BS tanked a bit and bye bye to the rest of the drones
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.08 21:02:00 -
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Good god guys stop suggesting smartbomb BSes in fleet battles. Thats 1 guaranteed way to kill half your fleet before the first shot is even fired by the other side. Also you cannot jam dreadnoughts when their in siege mode so gg to the scorps while they get picked off .
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.07.08 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened
The simple fact that the Caldari have already won their independence should say all that needs to be said.
Ya ... it says you don't have to stay in the Federation if you don't want to. We're a democracy
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Dexus
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Posted - 2005.07.08 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Drutort
Bah drones donÆt mean a thing if you can spam missiles from long range and have a fleet of scorps that can jam just about anything, even your dreadnoughts :P of course caldari will win
and if we wanted to create fleet of smartbomb BS tanked a bit and bye bye to the rest of the drones
and how fast do missles go? If you see a swarm of missles comming at you, the smartest thing to do is to warp out It will take hours for the missles to reach their targets in long range, EW doesnt work in long range either.
Gallente-All it takes is a rack of rails, and a bay full of scout drones (for the frigs), and gallante win \0/
btw: SBs on missle boats? LOL Gal will defineffly win then!
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Fortior
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:01:00 -
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I'm thinking that smartbombs will help Caldari more now, since all missiles are _alot_ faster. That will make it very hard to time them in order to destroy incoming torps and cruises. Meanwhile, the SB's while be quite hard on the drones
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Tochik Nhill
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:03:00 -
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SB + shield boosting + weaponry means that the capacitor is going to drop quickly. They may eliminate the drones, but at the cost of how much remaining cap to take on the remaining fleet of rails/blasters?
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:06:00 -
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ok lets see... each ship will have to be 7.5km from each other otherwise risk fratricide. You will not have any frig support to hold the enemy ships down and the ships at the back will have no missiles as they wont be able to fly thru the multiple SBs going off. That nullfies half your fleet. Upclose the blasterthron is king and i doubt you'll get more than 3-4SBs off before your inbox starts blinking.
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Hikaru Okuda
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:15:00 -
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Both sides forget to register the war with CONCORD and everyone gets CONCORDOKKEN'd :)
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Tochik Nhill
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:16:00 -
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Quote:
before your inbox starts blinking.
lolz, I love that wording
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Blydchyld
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:18:00 -
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Guys watching those dreadys on the test server if ANY dreadys got involved the caldari would wtfomgbbqpwn.
I saw 1 Pheonix annihilate 3 gallente dreadys from 90k in seige mode that means they cant move, at 90km the caldari dreadys would rip apart all ships bigger than a cruiser.
I bet Caldari 4 teh w1n!!!11eleven!!!
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Drutort
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Posted - 2005.07.08 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
ok lets see... each ship will have to be 7.5km from each other otherwise risk fratricide. You will not have any frig support to hold the enemy ships down and the ships at the back will have no missiles as they wont be able to fly thru the multiple SBs going off. That nullfies half your fleet. Upclose the blasterthron is king and i doubt you'll get more than 3-4SBs off before your inbox starts blinking.
what are you talking about who said that the missiles had to be fired were the sb bs are? unless the commander is that stupid, and did you forget support/logi ships?
also did you forget other things like tracking disruptors... put a few on a dread, and lets see if they will hit anything at all then it will be missiles 4tw again
there are so many other tactical strategies, just because you dont see them or havent used doesnt mean they dont exist or dont work, do you also know the lock time on dreads when in siege mode? you could probably warp out if they are starting to target you and comeback in GG
and for those who think missiles are slow, look at the ship bonus + the new skills then tell me how slow missiles are
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Posted - 2005.07.08 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Demetrius Carnigie on 08/07/2005 23:20:27
sorry, - lies
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.08 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: SengH on 08/07/2005 23:30:53
Edited by: SengH on 08/07/2005 23:27:30
I have a bit of time.. just a bit to break down your argument
Originally by: Drutort
what are you talking about who said that the missiles had to be fired were the sb bs are? unless the commander is that stupid, and did you forget support/logi ships?
The commander is stupid if he tells half his fleet to use SBs in fleet battles. Theres a reason WHY the arent used at all during fleet battles.
Originally by: Drutort
also did you forget other things like tracking disruptors... put a few on a dread, and lets see if they will hit anything at all then it will be missiles 4tw again
look at the range on the tracking disruptors then come back
Originally by: Drutort
there are so many other tactical strategies, just because you dont see them or havent used doesnt mean they dont exist or dont work, do you also know the lock time on dreads when in siege mode?
you could probably warp out if they are starting to target you and comeback in GG
I take it you havent been in a fleet battle before. Theres too many targets on your overview and you dont warp out when 1 person locks you. You warp out when their whole fleet starts flashing yellow :P
Originally by: Drutort
and for those who think missiles are slow, look at the ship bonus + the new skills then tell me how slow missiles are
they are by no means slow but the time it takes to lock and plus the further time it takes for the missiles to reach their target by that time that target will have been long gone.
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Jester87
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Posted - 2005.07.08 23:32:00 -
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Caldari because they have better tech and stuff... Also in the Minmatar helped the Gallente, the Amarr would help the Caldari and then Minmatar and Gallente would be screwed... Cause Amarr = pwnage.
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Darkside101
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Posted - 2005.07.08 23:38:00 -
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CALDARI, no contest, no help.
my version of the battle
100 mega < 100 scorps
put every caldari pilot in an ew ship scorp and fit 3 large smartbombs and 3 425 rails or bb's with 3 assault lanchers and an auto targeter for any pesky frigs,
END OF WAR
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.08 23:41:00 -
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*starts taking names of people never to fly with in a fleet battles*
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD smartbombs are not an effective fleet battle weapons :P Also what if the megas stay outside ecm range with rails . Dead caldari fleet. Also lol have fun coordinating 100 ECM targets among 100 people... id hate to be that fleet commander.
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Tulor
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Posted - 2005.07.09 01:06:00 -
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Seng, have you ever looked at the range of ECM's on scorps with good skills?
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.07.09 01:13:00 -
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Corporate warfare is the way of the future, empire wars are so DAoC.
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Velax
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Posted - 2005.07.09 01:19:00 -
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100km+, EW is useless, gal/matari will tear you up, torps will take too long to get to your target.
10km, mega will pwn you.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.07.09 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Gallente, of course. We would subjugate the moralities (such as they are) of the Caldari race by wideband broadcasts of Holoreel ****ography into their territory. We'd invade and take control with nary a shot, after the initial tactic left their lonely pilots with so little strength. :)
For that it'd be worth being on the loosing side
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Fenris Wolf
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Posted - 2005.07.09 02:24:00 -
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I dont really belong to the playerbase that fancies the RP thing but:
If each race stuck to its own shiptypes and with no outside
interferance the caldari could win for sure.
bringing 2x as many bships wouldnt help the gallente should
the caldari bring scorps for the most part, fitted to jamm
gallente and then focused fire
Wouldnt be easy imo but the gallente would eventually lose,
tho the caldari prolly would have the numbers to subjugate
the federation... tho they could just massacre the whole lot of them
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Lonagan
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Posted - 2005.07.09 02:30:00 -
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Well in looks and style the gallente fleet would look much better with the megathron, the sleek thorax,maulus and aload incursus and thenn u have the caldaris points ugly ships although they have better names they look awfull i think like the raven,moa,ospery and griffin
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MrBadz0r
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Posted - 2005.07.09 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
Good god guys stop suggesting smartbomb BSes in fleet battles. Thats 1 guaranteed way to kill half your fleet before the first shot is even fired by the other side. Also you cannot jam dreadnoughts when their in siege mode so gg to the scorps while they get picked off .
Yeah, hf targeting a ship while your in seige mode to meight; think you might find it a TAD IMPOSSIBLE.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.07.09 04:01:00 -
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Suppose the Gallante/Minmatar vs. Amarr/Caldari war would ever come to pass, I'm pretty sure that over a shorter or longer period of time Gallante/Minmatar would become the dominant power.
Why? One reason, if Gallante and Minmatar are suddenly forced to stick together they will become one. Their values aren't exactly the same, but compatible on some level.
When Caldari and Amarr are forced to work together they will sooner or later have internal conflicts, simply because their systems are so different. The emperor will simply never regard anyone who got to power through nothing but money as an equal, since that is just against everything the Amarr believe in. The Caldari will find it extremly difficult to deal with a society where blood and birthright counts for way more then money also, since in their state the only thing that matters is how much money you have...
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Darkside101
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Posted - 2005.07.09 04:04:00 -
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SnegH m8, in reply...
1, you cant have every seen many good ew pilots in your time in eve, with ion field projector 2's and good bs skills you get a pretty good optimal range of about 110k and its only going to take 2 or 3 of them to jam a mega out of the battle for a while.
2, its not like you would even need to use the SB's on our ships very often as there only for drone defence and last time i checked the range of drones was pretty small, you would have to be within 35k or so.
3, i'd guess the sb's used would all be explosive and the scorps would fit a hardner to counter that, giving them about 80% resistance.
4, the caldari fleet wouldnt be doing much sheild tanking either as all fleet battles i have been in the primary target doesnt realy have much of a chance to use them anyway, we would just be trusting our ew skills.
5, it wouldnt be to easy to stop every mega from shooting back but dont forget that you will be being shot at yourselves by the caldari fleet at the same time, even if we only jam out 50% of your ships thats still enough to swing the battle our way, IMHO
6, and finaly, im sure that we could both go on and on about the perfect fleet and the perfect circumstance in which to fight, i guess you could say that your mega's could be firing at over 110k and that the fleet couldnt jam you out, which is a fair point, but in the end there will only be one way to tast it out
Anyone wanna fight my scorp in their mega ?
1 scorp > 1 mega
10 scorp > 10 mega
100 scorp > 100 mega
yarr
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Konoko Kusanagi
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Posted - 2005.07.09 04:24:00 -
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Gallente would win, no contest. We'd send whatever passes for Oprah on the Gallentean networks to talk to the Amarr/Caldari leaders, and they'd be crying sissyboys within minutes. The EVE universe will then be reduced to a state of total carebearism.
Ich, that's to horrid, even for me.
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M'tel Ankari
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Posted - 2005.07.09 06:42:00 -
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Scorps have such crap damage output that a fleet of them would struggle to kill anything. One Mega easily equals 3 (or 4) Scorps in terms of damage.
Also, the Scorp is a new ship. The description says it's a prototype so you won't find a fleet of Scorps anyway. The Raven is the main battleship of the Caldari Navy.
This vid has a bunch of Scorpions in battle
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Espen
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Posted - 2005.07.09 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: Darkside101
SnegH m8, in reply...
1, you cant have every seen many good ew pilots in your time in eve, with ion field projector 2's and good bs skills you get a pretty good optimal range of about 110k and its only going to take 2 or 3 of them to jam a mega out of the battle for a while.
2, its not like you would even need to use the SB's on our ships very often as there only for drone defence and last time i checked the range of drones was pretty small, you would have to be within 35k or so.
3, i'd guess the sb's used would all be explosive and the scorps would fit a hardner to counter that, giving them about 80% resistance.
4, the caldari fleet wouldnt be doing much sheild tanking either as all fleet battles i have been in the primary target doesnt realy have much of a chance to use them anyway, we would just be trusting our ew skills.
5, it wouldnt be to easy to stop every mega from shooting back but dont forget that you will be being shot at yourselves by the caldari fleet at the same time, even if we only jam out 50% of your ships thats still enough to swing the battle our way, IMHO
6, and finaly, im sure that we could both go on and on about the perfect fleet and the perfect circumstance in which to fight, i guess you could say that your mega's could be firing at over 110k and that the fleet couldnt jam you out, which is a fair point, but in the end there will only be one way to tast it out
Anyone wanna fight my scorp in their mega ?
1 scorp > 1 mega
10 scorp > 10 mega
100 scorp > 100 mega
yarr
... You do know that the federation is much bigger then the caldari state.
So, it would proabably be more like:
100 scorp < 200 mega
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M'tel Ankari
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Posted - 2005.07.09 08:03:00 -
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The Federation Navy may be bigger, but it's Navy has fewer bs.
Quote:
The Caldari Navy is smaller in personnel and total ships than both the Federation Navy and the Amarr Navy, yet they have more battleships than any other fleet and the average age of the Caldari ships is considerably less. This is because the Caldari are constantly replacing their oldest ships with newer ones, with better hi-tech equipment. The strategic doctrine of the Caldari Navy is simple: to be able to defeat any other navy in the world. Most experts believe it is.
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:41:00 -
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U could warp some ravens on top of that long range fleet :)
Tube 1,2,3,4,5,6 away sir, and then the look on caldari pilots face ... just
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Shatpank
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:53:00 -
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Edited by: Shatpank on 09/07/2005 12:53:47
Gallente would LOSE of course, now why, too pompus to work it out yet. Well Ill help you there derived from the French thats why... They loose every battle theve ever fought and im sure theve passed there looser genes into the spacetime continium through the guise of the Gallente.
Caladari 4tw!
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Sentani
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:56:00 -
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yeah lets just forget that they beat of the muslims coming in thru spain and the fact that they pwn allmost the entire eurpean continent
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Shatpank
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sentani
yeah lets just forget that they beat of the muslims coming in thru spain and the fact that they pwn allmost the entire eurpean continent
Touche!
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Fenris Wolf
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: M'tel Ankari
Scorps have such crap damage output that a fleet of them would struggle to kill anything. One Mega easily equals 3 (or 4) Scorps in terms of damage.
Also, the Scorp is a new ship. The description says it's a prototype so you won't find a fleet of Scorps anyway. The Raven is the main battleship of the Caldari Navy.
Damage still wont get you very far if you cant target, and a group of scorps could still focus fire to beef their dmg.
Its description has said that its a prototype for about 2 years now, if you ever found
yourself without anything better to do than to read the short story "ruthless" you would
know that the raven is actually newer then the scorpion.
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Sanalsa
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Posted - 2005.07.09 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Morpheusssss
WEll the gals would get the minmatars, but the caldarians would get the amarr on thier side and it would be OMGWTFBBQPWNED casue the amarr are so big (single most powerful) and if the war did happen the amarr could come in swat the weakend forces and then go mess up the minmatars so it would turn into a 3v1
If the Amarr joined the caldari the jovians would join the gallentte
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