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Dr Nacho Cheese
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.01.29 03:52:00 -
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Not sure where to put this but I was wondering if you guys at CCP were looking into the Oculus Rift, a new and innovative way to game that allows the user to delve into the gaming experience in a much better way then your normal monitor/television.
"Here's the skinny on the Oculus Rift: it's a headset that covers your eyes with a 720p screen. There are two lenses in front of your eyes, and the screen shows a left and right stereo image that the lenses pipe through to your eyeballs, creating an immersive 3D virtual reality experience. Also inside the headset are high resolution sensors that track the motion of your head and shift your in-world view to match. It takes just two milliseconds for the sensors to tell the displays to update as your head moves, which means that the effect is convincingly real: as you physically move your head in any axis, the gameworld follows just as if you were there in real life." http://www.dvice.com/2013-1-11/heads-oculus-rift-immersive-vr-headset-ces
The Website http://www.oculusvr.com/
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
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Posted - 2013.01.29 03:59:00 -
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Ship spinning nausea awaits!  |

Sairi Katelin
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:00:00 -
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So.. basically, it's one of those VR headsets that they were dinking around with in the 90's with a newer monitor? I dont get why you're using the word "new" here. This is a technology that we had in the stores when the latest major game console played Super Mario Brothers and the original Legend of Zelda. This is pretty much the definition of retro. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:11:00 -
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There's already been a threadnought about this. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |

Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:37:00 -
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VR? It works pretty good for flight sims I must admit, but I'm really struggling to find it useful for Excel graphical shell EVE. Well, it may be cool on a few occasion, but not very practical IMO. |

Ila Gant
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:49:00 -
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Those plus signs are coming right at me! |

Ai Shun
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:46:00 -
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Dr Nacho Cheese wrote:Not sure where to put this but I was wondering if you guys at CCP were looking into the Oculus Rift, a new and innovative way to game that allows the user to delve into the gaming experience in a much better way then your normal monitor/television.
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=171077 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=190662 EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here |

Not Politically Correct
Veerhouven Ventures
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Posted - 2013.01.29 06:33:00 -
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Is it new? No Is it revolutionary? No Is it within everyone's reach? No Would it add anything to the game? No
Not sure why you are curious. It might be cool, but do you use it? |

Talemecus Valta
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.29 09:40:00 -
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So how do you see the keyboard to make commands or type in local?????
A good idea but not practical for a game like EVE.
I think it's more suited to console/PC controller games.
Using hot keys from a KB is gonna be tough. Only 40 rounds per gun... I hate reloading in the middle!
I'll make it through each day, Singing DEATH OR GLORY!!!! |

Shalia Ripper
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Posted - 2013.01.29 09:51:00 -
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One step closer to shooting someone in the eye with autocannons.
But I really don't see it benefiting EvE play all that much. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8
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Solstice Project
T E R R O R I S T S
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Posted - 2013.01.29 10:58:00 -
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It's not innovative. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Renzo Ruderi
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:03:00 -
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OP's advertisement is an obvious advertisement. |

Gutuie
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:13:00 -
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I dont care about 3D idea, why should i wear glasses or other device on my eyes to play a game or watch tv and to act like a zombie in my house ? better play for fun not like a robot and use your eyes in the most natural way |

Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:14:00 -
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Dr Nacho Cheese wrote:Not sure where to put this but I was wondering if you guys at CCP were looking into the Oculus Rift, a new and innovative way to game that allows the user to delve into the gaming experience in a much better way then
Use of then instead of than RECORD SCRATCH.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:25:00 -
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Dr Nacho Cheese wrote:Not sure where to put this but I was wondering if you guys at CCP were looking into the Oculus Rift, a new and innovative way to game that allows the user to delve into the gaming experience in a much better way then your normal monitor/television. "Here's the skinny on the Oculus Rift: it's a headset that covers your eyes with a 720p screen. There are two lenses in front of your eyes, and the screen shows a left and right stereo image that the lenses pipe through to your eyeballs, creating an immersive 3D virtual reality experience. Also inside the headset are high resolution sensors that track the motion of your head and shift your in-world view to match. It takes just two milliseconds for the sensors to tell the displays to update as your head moves, which means that the effect is convincingly real: as you physically move your head in any axis, the gameworld follows just as if you were there in real life."http://www.dvice.com/2013-1-11/heads-oculus-rift-immersive-vr-headset-cesThe Websitehttp://www.oculusvr.com/
Nice gadget but I need way more resolution than that for EVE. Get back to me when they do one in 2560x1920. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2013.01.29 12:09:00 -
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My God, what fantastic new innovations will they come up with next? Video telephones? Portable computers? DIGITAL CAMERAS?
The sky's the limit  "Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |

Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.02.18 06:07:00 -
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CCP, do you have one
have you ordered one
(would you like one)
their website suggested ordering a developer kit for our favorite games, and it made me think of you <3
Sairi Katelin wrote:So.. basically, it's one of those VR headsets that they were dinking around with in the 90's with a newer monitor? I dont get why you're using the word "new" here. This is a technology that we had in the stores when the latest major game console played Super Mario Brothers and the original Legend of Zelda. This is pretty much the definition of retro.
no, not basically, it's not what we had in the 90's. the tracking has 2ms lag, and there haven't been graphics worthy of attempting VR, and we're closer to that than ever.
Malcanis wrote:
Nice gadget but I need way more resolution than that for EVE. Get back to me when they do one in 2560x1920.
I disagree, and i think 720p is fine. it's not about having the glorious finished result at this point, it's about supporting the development of it.
Talemecus Valta wrote:So how do you see the keyboard to make commands or type in local?????
A good idea but not practical for a game like EVE.
I think it's more suited to console/PC controller games.
Using hot keys from a KB is gonna be tough.
if you need to look at your keyboard as you play, the visor is not your problem http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2013.02.18 06:31:00 -
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>Oculus Rift >Not innovative >Had VR helmets years ago
Do you people even know what the Oculus' contributions to the field are? Innovation isn't just about inventing whole new gadgets you know.
It's useless for a game like EVE though. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.02.18 06:37:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:>Oculus Rift >Not innovative >Had VR helmets years ago
Do you people even know what the Oculus' contributions to the field are? Innovation isn't just about inventing whole new gadgets you know.
It's useless for a game like EVE though. you think it's useless because you lack the creativity
its biggest innovation is a low response motion tracking ability. http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air
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Posted - 2013.02.18 06:40:00 -
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what you gonna use it for 3d while you watch youtube as your mack runs cycles afk? spreadsheets in 3d? gonna make the red crosses and white squares be all 3d and shiznit? not effin likely, take this 90s technologies and keep it away with my space-zork i call EVE, nerd |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2013.02.18 06:40:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:you think it's useless because you lack the imagination No, it's pretty frickin' useless in it's current form because of the difference in the center and peripheral resolution. Unless you want to have to turn your head every time you look from one EVE window to another.
My imagination is fine BTW. I don't see myself just playing EVE with this, I see myself discarding my monitors and interacting with my PC solely through this, but with a much later, more advanced version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsQT3mbvVWY [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.02.18 06:48:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:what you gonna use it for 3d while you watch youtube as your mack runs cycles afk? spreadsheets in 3d? gonna make the red crosses and white squares be all 3d and shiznit? not effin likely, take this 90s technologies and keep it away with my space-zork i call EVE, nerd [too busy to acknowledge the name calling.] for the time being, 2D is ok. I'm willing to wait on CCP for that... they've done it once, maybe they'll do it again in the future.
**** double post. http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |

Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.02.18 06:49:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Rain6637 wrote:you think it's useless because you lack the imagination No, it's pretty frickin' useless in it's current form because of the difference in the center and peripheral resolution. Unless you want to have to turn your head every time you look from one EVE window to another. My imagination is fine BTW. I don't see myself just playing EVE with this, I see myself discarding my monitors and interacting with my PC solely through this, but with a much later, more advanced version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsQT3mbvVWY
I think UI should remain locked to the screen, and the tracking should only apply to the view of space, like when you right-click-and-drag in space. like I said... imagination. http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2013.02.18 06:50:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I think UI should remain locked to the screen, and the tracking should only apply to the view of space, like when you right-click-and-drag in space. Enjoy your hilariously low-res UI then. The peripheral is well below 720p.
Also, 3D is unimpressive in EVE anyway. The scale is so large that almost everything is just off at infinity. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.02.18 06:52:00 -
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it's a developer kit, not a retail product. all it needs is something like a retina display http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2013.02.18 06:57:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:it's a developer kit, not a retail product. all it needs is something like a retina display Retail will be 1080p AFAIK, so in the peripheral it'll still be too low. Wait for them to get high enough res displays to be able to do without the lens distortion. Then developers will be able to use your entire field of view properly. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:04:00 -
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I like the idea, I want to be the first one on the block to have one, and when I'm not EVE'ing I'll be playing Hawken... which I've been eyeing since this time last year.
I would've had the first developer kit release, but I didn't know about it during the kickstarter, or in time to order it for the first run of developer kits.
if CCP doesn't have one I would like to get them one. I would just need a c/o CCP ______ so it gets to the right person.
know what else it would be awesome for? dust exploration. dust period http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:12:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I would've had the first developer kit release, but I didn't know about it during the kickstarter, or in time to order it for the first run of developer kits. You can still get one for April (expected).
Rain6637 wrote:wanna hear something crazy? i don't think the reticle in FPS should be locked to the center of view. they should be independent and the visor should be used in tandem with a handheld sensor such as the Playstation move. it's a step toward running around with a weapon in your hands that aims independently of center view That is pretty crazy, considering that the people who've used it have said that aiming by looking at things, which uses standard reflexes, is better than any existing input method. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:16:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Rain6637 wrote:I would've had the first developer kit release, but I didn't know about it during the kickstarter, or in time to order it for the first run of developer kits. You can still get one for April (expected). Rain6637 wrote:wanna hear something crazy? i don't think the reticle in FPS should be locked to the center of view. they should be independent and the visor should be used in tandem with a handheld sensor such as the Playstation move. it's a step toward running around with a weapon in your hands that aims independently of center view That is pretty crazy, considering that the people who've used it have said that aiming by looking at things, which uses standard reflexes, is better than any existing input method.
I've ordered one, last week.
it might be the best method currently, but it's not natural. don't worry, I know
the playstation move, which isn't as good as the wii mote for accuracy, could get better and if the playstation 4's version is accurate enough to aim a weapon, I would hope they would allow the option of independent aiming and scanning. heck, and movement. http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:19:00 -
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You think aiming a handheld weapon at something is more natural than looking at it? What are you, American? (joking)
I was going to split the cost of one with a friend, but the additional cost incurred by importing it pushed it too high considering that the dev version has limited game support. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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