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Methelic Mahyisti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:37:00 -
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I have been browsing through several forums, but most of them seem to want players only with more than 10-15 M SP.
Is it even possible to get into the larger alliances like test, goons, razor etc. with 3-5 m SP? |
March rabbit
Aliastra
509
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:43:00 -
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i can be wrong here (been away from 0.0 for like a year) however...
Usually it is not alliance who recruits. Actual recruitment is done by its corporations. You become member of corporation.
This means that actual requirements you get from corporation recruiter. And it depends of him and his corporation.
Let's say is corporation does PvP you need to fly doctrine ships with good skills.
However if you are getting into industrial corp you can get with retriever and train hulk later. Additional skills will be bonus but they are not "must have".
Choose what do you want from 0.0 and then browse for alliance/corporations. |
Spurty
V0LTA
Verge of Collapse
773
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:44:00 -
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Don't think skill points are the barrier with any of those
TEST - Reddit account
GOONS - Something awful account
RAZOR - Valid LARP membership
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Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
314
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:46:00 -
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Goons only recruit from the something awful forums and the others you'll have to jump thru hoops like a good doggie but it helps to know someone inside who can vouch for you or have a killer kill board with lower SP toon and focus on PVP cause that's what they look for including you got to bare all full API your alt, transactions, a letter from your mother yada yada. |
Thur Barbek
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:53:00 -
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Think of corp recruitment requirements as recommendations. Ideally, you would fit most of the req's. The majority of corps will work with you if you show interest. |
Marsan
Caldari Provisions
84
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:07:00 -
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In general large nullsec alliances don't want to bring in low skill point folks for fear of spies, and general lack of leetnesss. The Goons and Test corps require some number months membership in their forums. Other alliances like pandemic simply have too high of skill point and killboard requirements. That said both the HBC, and CFC have a lot of corps, and semi-allied corps that do recruit low sp characters.
Things to note:
0) If it's test or the goons and you didn't go the forum route it's a scam.
1) If some asks for an API it's pretty standard.
2) If some asks for a deposit/fee it's a scam.
3) If they ask you to contract them all your worldly possessions it's a scam. Once you get in corp, and get out to NS then you can contract some of your stuff over for transport.
My advice is to look at faction warfare or low sec corps 1st. Get some pvp experience, something on your killboard and some people who will vouch for you. Most pvp focused corps I've been in have ended up moving to NS or some portion has broken off to do so within 6 months. |
Dunkler Imperator
N.F.H.P.
SQUEE.
27
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:17:00 -
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alot of 0.0 have feeder alliances. I believe Tribal Band is test alliance feeder and Fatal ascension is the goon one.Try applying to those ones first. |
Trendon Evenstar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:20:00 -
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Piugattuk wrote:Goons only recruit from the something awful forums and the others you'll have to jump thru hoops like a good doggie but it helps to know someone inside who can vouch for you or have a killer kill board with lower SP toon and focus on PVP cause that's what they look for including you got to bare all full API your alt, transactions, a letter from your mother yada yada.
This is untrue. GoonWaffe- the severely bloated 8000 man flagship corp recruits explicitly from SA, member corps in the alliance "Goonswarm Federation" have their own recruiting practices. |
Methelic Mahyisti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:23:00 -
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Trendon Evenstar wrote:Piugattuk wrote:Goons only recruit from the something awful forums and the others you'll have to jump thru hoops like a good doggie but it helps to know someone inside who can vouch for you or have a killer kill board with lower SP toon and focus on PVP cause that's what they look for including you got to bare all full API your alt, transactions, a letter from your mother yada yada. This is untrue. GoonWaffe- the severely bloated 8000 man flagship corp recruits explicitly from SA, member corps in the alliance "Goonswarm Federation" have their own recruiting practices.
This is also what I gathered. Any idea if member corporations of the alliance recruit people with 3-5M SP? |
Hannah Flex
laissez-faire economics
155
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:24:00 -
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Methelic Mahyisti wrote:I have been browsing through several forums, but most of them seem to want players only with more than 10-15 M SP.
Is it even possible to get into the larger alliances like test, goons, razor etc. with 3-5 m SP?
I was browsing through the recruiting tool the other day and there was a Fatal Ascension corp and a TEST one that would come up as: new player friendly. Try those filters if you're looking for the true 0.0 power bloc experience. |
Trendon Evenstar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:29:00 -
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Methelic Mahyisti wrote:Trendon Evenstar wrote:Piugattuk wrote:Goons only recruit from the something awful forums and the others you'll have to jump thru hoops like a good doggie but it helps to know someone inside who can vouch for you or have a killer kill board with lower SP toon and focus on PVP cause that's what they look for including you got to bare all full API your alt, transactions, a letter from your mother yada yada. This is untrue. GoonWaffe- the severely bloated 8000 man flagship corp recruits explicitly from SA, member corps in the alliance "Goonswarm Federation" have their own recruiting practices. This is also what I gathered. Any idea if member corporations of the alliance recruit people with 3-5M SP?
I'm sure some of them do, you just need to look at Dotlan or use the ingame tools to see the member corps and most of them will have recruitment contact info in their descriptions. Just be aware that theres about 150 corps in GSF but a lot of them are personal corps for dropping pos and moon mining. Theres about 40 or so "real" corps. You can figure out the real ones by the member count 
Alternatively I would suggest contacting an official recruiter like Scooter McCabe |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
245
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:31:00 -
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The reason for the SP requirement is not that your character is finally useful. The point is the damage that letting in an infiltrator can cause. People are very willing to invest a month or two (and $15 real) building an infiltration alt. They are less likely to spend 2 years ( and $350 real) building an infiltration alt.
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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
725
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:33:00 -
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Hannah Flex wrote:Methelic Mahyisti wrote:I have been browsing through several forums, but most of them seem to want players only with more than 10-15 M SP.
Is it even possible to get into the larger alliances like test, goons, razor etc. with 3-5 m SP? I was browsing through the recruiting tool the other day and there was a Fatal Ascension corp and a TEST one that would come up as: new player friendly. Try those filters if you're looking for the true 0.0 power bloc experience.
this is terrible advice
nobody in their right mind would use the recruitment tool, use dotlan to find a corp (and disregard any corp with less than 50-100 members as it is an alt corp and probably only set up for scamming purposes).
I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
Call Rollard
Grim Determination Academy
Nulli Tertius
26
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:38:00 -
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Trendon Evenstar wrote:Piugattuk wrote:Goons only recruit from the something awful forums and the others you'll have to jump thru hoops like a good doggie but it helps to know someone inside who can vouch for you or have a killer kill board with lower SP toon and focus on PVP cause that's what they look for including you got to bare all full API your alt, transactions, a letter from your mother yada yada. This is untrue. GoonWaffe- the severely bloated 8000 man flagship corp recruits explicitly from SA, member corps in the alliance "Goonswarm Federation" have their own recruiting practices.
From my experience talking to other people in EVE, corps in TEST or Goons, even if its not Dreddit or Goonwaffe scam. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
725
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:42:00 -
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Call Rollard wrote:Trendon Evenstar wrote:Piugattuk wrote:Goons only recruit from the something awful forums and the others you'll have to jump thru hoops like a good doggie but it helps to know someone inside who can vouch for you or have a killer kill board with lower SP toon and focus on PVP cause that's what they look for including you got to bare all full API your alt, transactions, a letter from your mother yada yada. This is untrue. GoonWaffe- the severely bloated 8000 man flagship corp recruits explicitly from SA, member corps in the alliance "Goonswarm Federation" have their own recruiting practices. From my experience talking to other people in EVE, corps in TEST or Goons, even if its not Dreddit or Goonwaffe scam.
your experience is misleading.
there are corporations in TEST and GSF that recruit from other communities (e.g. Eighty Joule Brewery - Elitist Jerks; Merch Industrial - Penny Arcade; Bat Country - f13.net; Ars Ex Discordia - Ars Technica; ...) and there are corporations that just do public recruitment (e.g. Eternity Inc, WIdot, Enlightened Industries, The Milkmen, ...).
As I said above - scams are usually conducted with personal alt corps (PACs) which are easily recognized.
I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
794
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:55:00 -
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Hi. I got into Dreddit with approximately 6000 skillpoints (or however many it is you have when you start the game).
To join Dreddit, all you need is to have been an active Redditor for at least three months. This is because Dreddit is a Reddit community. Other corps in TEST have their own recruitment procedures. Enlightened Industries, for example, is notoriously sluttish when it comes to letting people in.
The other way to join Dreddit is to persuade a current member of Dreddit to sponsor you. If you can find any Dredditors and persuade them to sponsor you, you're in.
Best start making friends!
You have become the pubbie, Mittani. Yours is the temple whose technetium-clad tables are at risk of being overthrown, whose seats need mixing. You're the one who fears war. -- Sadleric |
Methelic Mahyisti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:01:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Hi. I got into Dreddit with approximately 6000 skillpoints (or however many it is you have when you start the game).
To join Dreddit, all you need is to have been an active Redditor for at least three months. This is because Dreddit is a Reddit community. Other corps in TEST have their own recruitment procedures. Enlightened Industries, for example, is notoriously sluttish when it comes to letting people in.
The other way to join Dreddit is to persuade a current member of Dreddit to sponsor you. If you can find any Dredditors and persuade them to sponsor you, you're in.
Best start making friends!
It's hard to make friends in a world where everyone seeks to kill you.  |
Jonah Gravenstein
The Burning Lotus
5220
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:19:00 -
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Methelic Mahyisti wrote:It's hard to make friends in a world where everyone seeks to kill you.
Do unto others before they do unto you
It's not hard to make ingame friends and acquaintances, it's just hard to trust them. In Eve friendship is cheap, trust is the valuable commodity here.
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's a goonspiracy. |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
253
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:34:00 -
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F1 skills and drake will get u in asap..just don't do much thinking.
"it put ore down in can or it gets the hose again"
Leeloo Dallas Multipass - "Big bada boom"
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
1675
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:45:00 -
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Methelic Mahyisti wrote:
Is it even possible to get into the larger alliances like test, goons, razor etc. with 3-5 m SP?
Sorry, you will have to train your awoxing alt more to gain entry.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
794
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:46:00 -
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Methelic Mahyisti wrote:It's hard to make friends in a world where everyone seeks to kill you.
Didn't someone say that money can't buy you love but it can buy friends?
Mina Sebiestar wrote:F1 skills and drake will get u in asap..just don't do much thinking.
No they won't. Not with posting like that.
You have become the pubbie, Mittani. Yours is the temple whose technetium-clad tables are at risk of being overthrown, whose seats need mixing. You're the one who fears war. -- Sadleric |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3754
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:57:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Call Rollard wrote:Trendon Evenstar wrote:Piugattuk wrote:Goons only recruit from the something awful forums and the others you'll have to jump thru hoops like a good doggie but it helps to know someone inside who can vouch for you or have a killer kill board with lower SP toon and focus on PVP cause that's what they look for including you got to bare all full API your alt, transactions, a letter from your mother yada yada. This is untrue. GoonWaffe- the severely bloated 8000 man flagship corp recruits explicitly from SA, member corps in the alliance "Goonswarm Federation" have their own recruiting practices. From my experience talking to other people in EVE, corps in TEST or Goons, even if its not Dreddit or Goonwaffe scam. your experience is misleading. there are corporations in TEST and GSF that recruit from other communities (e.g. Eighty Joule Brewery - Elitist Jerks; Merch Industrial - Penny Arcade; Bat Country - f13.net; Ars Ex Discordia - Ars Technica; ...) and there are corporations that just do public recruitment (e.g. Eternity Inc, WIdot, Enlightened Industries, The Milkmen, ...). As I said above - scams are usually conducted with personal alt corps (PACs) which are easily recognized.
Wow Bat Country recruits off f13.net? Did not even know that crazy site still existed. I kept litigating with the mods all the time 
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |
Methelic Mahyisti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.01.29 18:00:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Methelic Mahyisti wrote:
Is it even possible to get into the larger alliances like test, goons, razor etc. with 3-5 m SP?
Sorry, you will have to train your awoxing alt more to gain entry.
Sorry, my main has 3-5m SP. Creating an ALT would be a little dumb in my opinion. |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
796
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Posted - 2013.01.29 20:50:00 -
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Methelic Mahyisti wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Methelic Mahyisti wrote:
Is it even possible to get into the larger alliances like test, goons, razor etc. with 3-5 m SP?
Sorry, you will have to train your awoxing alt more to gain entry. Sorry, my main has 3-5m SP. Creating an ALT would be a little dumb in my opinion. Is Goonswarm mainly EU?
Goonswarm and Dreddit are both around 50/50 EU and US.
You have become the pubbie, Mittani. Yours is the temple whose technetium-clad tables are at risk of being overthrown, whose seats need mixing. You're the one who fears war. -- Sadleric |
Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
214
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:01:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Methelic Mahyisti wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Methelic Mahyisti wrote:
Is it even possible to get into the larger alliances like test, goons, razor etc. with 3-5 m SP?
Sorry, you will have to train your awoxing alt more to gain entry. Sorry, my main has 3-5m SP. Creating an ALT would be a little dumb in my opinion. Is Goonswarm mainly EU? Goonswarm and Dreddit are both around 50/50 EU and US.
Now if only they actually pulled their weight around. |
Methelic Mahyisti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:09:00 -
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What are the major differences between Dreddit and GoonWaffe?
I know they origin from their respective communities, but how does that reflect their every day in-game? |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
187
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:27:00 -
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Being in one of the big alliances is over rated.
You're simply a number and there are so many on TS during fleet ops that you'll rarely have anything to say.
Why be a slave?
Join a med size corp or small alliance and you will, normally, have a lot more fun, and actually be able to talk, unless combat comms have been called of course.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
7091
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:29:00 -
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:Being in one of the big alliances is over rated.
You're simply a number and there are so many on TS during fleet ops that you'll rarely have anything to say.
Why be a slave?
Join a med size corp or small alliance and you will, normally, have a lot more fun, and actually be able to talk, unless combat comms have been called of course.
Quiet Mr. I-forgot-to-use-the-flash
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
3607
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:29:00 -
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Spurty wrote:RAZOR - Valid LARP membership
wat
Malcanis for CSM 8
Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
187
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Posted - 2013.01.29 21:31:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:Being in one of the big alliances is over rated.
You're simply a number and there are so many on TS during fleet ops that you'll rarely have anything to say.
Why be a slave?
Join a med size corp or small alliance and you will, normally, have a lot more fun, and actually be able to talk, unless combat comms have been called of course.
Quiet Mr. I-forgot-to-use-the-flash
Actually, the camera broke. 
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