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SirMolle
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:43:00 -
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Starting with the bloody sunday on 2004-10-31 where the by now infamous incidents occured and the flames and arguments about who shot who raged on for about 2 months, and where FA lost 24 bships in one day, and estimated value losses was ~2.2 billons.
Enter the talks, arguments, agreements and whatnot during November 2004, and only some scattered FA losses, totalling about 747 millions.
Enter December 2004, where FA tried sending suicide squads up north to try and take us on, but never got past ec-p, and lost rougly 420 millions value.
Enter January 2005, where we slowly trickled in down to delve and querious, and there actually was fightings... and FA losses totalling ~12 billions.
In february and march of 2005, it escalated, with february totalling losses of ~19 billions, and march ~10 billions. April and may followed to be a little bit calmer, with only some smaller raids from BoB. April totalled about 10 billions in losses for FA, and May about 7 billions. It continues into June, where June ended up with a warbill of ~7.5 billions for FA.
Now, its July.
The first 9 days of July, has so far totalled losses for FA of 6 billions. And this is, mind you, with FA saying "ignore the core, be elsewhere, bore them to death".
Doing the math since the conflict with FA began.. gives FA a total warbill of about 70-75 billions.
Enjoy your wallets. They used to be full.
Our journey has BEGUN.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:46:00 -
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Is that before or after insurance gives them almost all the money back ?
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
In the Immortal words of Kayosoni (and where applicable)
"This thread sucks. 2 Newb corps trying to make themselves look good... ugh"
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Snaieke
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:47:00 -
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Your point is...?
So you've smoked another alliance, bravo.
My names Blind Lemon Jefferson, 'nd I 'dun plucked out muh eyes fuh Jesus
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Darken Two
Is that before or after insurance gives them almost all the money back ?
As far as i know it shows the insurance payout (~100M per battleship) and not the insurance cost (~30M per battleship). Maybe BoB have changed it though .. no idea.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:51:00 -
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If the "bore them to death" tactic doesn't work on BoB, that means the reason you left the north must have been military defeat.
And, your calculations (aside from not taking insurance into account as has already been mentioned) assume these people did NOT attempt to make any money over this entire year of gameplay.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:52:00 -
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Impressive.. but you could have basically just linked t your killboard.. just like everybody else seems to be doing..
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
If the "bore them to death" tactic doesn't work on BoB, that means the reason you left the north must have been military defeat.
And, your calculations (aside from not taking insurance into account as has already been mentioned) assume these people did NOT attempt to make any money over this entire year of gameplay.
The numbers in kills were greatly in our favour, same as here. |
catz
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:53:00 -
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Your killboard is false. Maybe you're "forgot" some killmail... Who knows... FA for sure :)
Anyway, who's care ? We died one years ago 
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
If the "bore them to death" tactic doesn't work on BoB, that means the reason you left the north must have been military defeat.
And, your calculations (aside from not taking insurance into account as has already been mentioned) assume these people did NOT attempt to make any money over this entire year of gameplay.
The PA were defeated, if you recall the PA started out by fighting back, then went to empire. FA are starting out in empire and only those the alliance doesn't care enough about to organise are left in Core.
It's a different campaign, don't try and equate the two; BoB were not prepared for the "boredom" tactic against the Phoenix Alliance, we most certainly are prepared for it against the Fountain "Alliance".
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Shrike
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: catz
Your killboard is false. Maybe you're "forgot" some killmail... Who knows... FA for sure :)
Anyway, who's care ? We died one years ago
I think you just earnt yourself a 25 million fee for posting in threads, so, add another 25 mill to the numbers above pls.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Dianabolic on 09/07/2005 11:57:42
Originally by: catz
Your killboard is false. Maybe you're "forgot" some killmail... Who knows... FA for sure :)
As in, we've not posted our losses?
Prove it.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
If the "bore them to death" tactic doesn't work on BoB, that means the reason you left the north must have been military defeat.
We left because there was no-one left to fight in 7 or 8 regions around us. Don't kid yourself into hoping it was anything else.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: catz
Your killboard is false. Maybe you're "forgot" some killmail... Who knows... FA for sure :)
Anyway, who's care ? We died one years ago
No killboard is completely accurate: BoB's is one f the better ones..
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: hired goon
If the "bore them to death" tactic doesn't work on BoB, that means the reason you left the north must have been military defeat.
We left because there was no-one left to fight in 7 or 8 regions around us. Don't kid yourself into hoping it was anything else.
dbp
All lies. You left because you missed me and being in Venal reminded you of the fun times we had together and the pain was too much.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
In the Immortal words of Kayosoni (and where applicable)
"This thread sucks. 2 Newb corps trying to make themselves look good... ugh"
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BuRnEr
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:11:00 -
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Keep up the good work molle 
fa-military before DT:
Tobez > where is everyione has everyone left ?
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BoB moves in and an alliance mail come, does it say "hey bob is here come back and fight now!" nope sorry it dont:
2005.07.08 17:14:00
Greetings to all those in Fountain Alliance!
My name is Lord Saotome, and I thought it would be fun to start a Lottery!
o dear 
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: hired goon
If the "bore them to death" tactic doesn't work on BoB, that means the reason you left the north must have been military defeat.
We left because there was no-one left to fight in 7 or 8 regions around us. Don't kid yourself into hoping it was anything else.
dbp
All lies. You left because you missed me and being in Venal reminded you of the fun times we had together and the pain was too much.
Well actually, GODS were about the last corp to leave (although I know you weren't in them at the time) so kinda ;P
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: dabster on 09/07/2005 12:19:22
Wow, bob has an alt in FA, shockar and newsflash! HONEST!!
Do you realise that posting internal FA stuff is about 10 months old, and only really makes you a wannabe?
edit; that was for Burner, damnit stop spamming you forum*****s
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: hired goon
If the "bore them to death" tactic doesn't work on BoB, that means the reason you left the north must have been military defeat.
We left because there was no-one left to fight in 7 or 8 regions around us. Don't kid yourself into hoping it was anything else.
dbp
Well if you came up to kill any alliances, I'm afraid they're all very much still here. So if your objective = false, and then you leave, I'm pretty sure that constitutes a faliure.
In any case, good to see you guys are having fun crushing another alliance that's not fighting you.
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Leitari
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:25:00 -
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a wannabe what? a wannabe OMG I DONT WANNA FIGHT BOB so i post on the forums?
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Kariss
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:30:00 -
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More respect due, IMO, to the likes of PA/FA than those that would rather fight with BoB than fight against them. Yes, because fighting alliances and corps that you are quite happy to denounce saying they won't fight/are weak/have no pvpers* shows how truly skilled you are.
*And this is what you call fun eh? gg
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Shrike
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: dabster
Edited by: dabster on 09/07/2005 12:19:22
Wow, bob has an alt in FA, shockar and newsflash! HONEST!!
Do you realise that posting internal FA stuff is about 10 months old, and only really makes you a wannabe?
edit; that was for Burner, damnit stop spamming you forum*****s
Look ma, another 25 mill bill for posting in the forums.
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Evecrumble
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kariss
More respect due, IMO, to the likes of PA/FA than those that would rather fight with BoB than fight against them. Yes, because fighting alliances and corps that you are quite happy to denounce saying they won't fight/are weak/have no pvpers* shows how truly skilled you are.
*And this is what you call fun eh? gg
Yes your right, we should be spending our time attacking those alliances who will fight back. Now if you could just tell me their names and locations ill get right on that :)
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:41:00 -
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At least they are giving a good fight on forums
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Kromulus
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Evecrumble
Originally by: Kariss
More respect due, IMO, to the likes of PA/FA than those that would rather fight with BoB than fight against them. Yes, because fighting alliances and corps that you are quite happy to denounce saying they won't fight/are weak/have no pvpers* shows how truly skilled you are.
*And this is what you call fun eh? gg
Yes your right, we should be spending our time attacking those alliances who will fight back. Now if you could just tell me their names and locations ill get right on that :)
Check your standings! Your NAP'd with them all.
And i thought EVOL reset there standings a while back? Seems they have more friends now. Not hack it on your own??
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Evecrumble
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kromulus
Originally by: Evecrumble
Originally by: Kariss
More respect due, IMO, to the likes of PA/FA than those that would rather fight with BoB than fight against them. Yes, because fighting alliances and corps that you are quite happy to denounce saying they won't fight/are weak/have no pvpers* shows how truly skilled you are.
*And this is what you call fun eh? gg
Yes your right, we should be spending our time attacking those alliances who will fight back. Now if you could just tell me their names and locations ill get right on that :)
Check your standings! Your NAP'd with them all.
And i thought EVOL reset there standings a while back? Seems they have more friends now. Not hack it on your own??
Now now no need to get jelous, some people just make friends easier than others. Theres plenty of other good standing fishes in the sea, im sure youll find some oneday :P
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:47:00 -
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77 Billion is probly like pocket change to FA.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: hired goon
If the "bore them to death" tactic doesn't work on BoB, that means the reason you left the north must have been military defeat.
We left because there was no-one left to fight in 7 or 8 regions around us. Don't kid yourself into hoping it was anything else.
dbp
Well if you came up to kill any alliances, I'm afraid they're all very much still here. So if your objective = false, and then you leave, I'm pretty sure that constitutes a faliure.
In any case, good to see you guys are having fun crushing another alliance that's not fighting you.
Tell me, of the corps in PA in July 2004, how many are still in PA ?
I seem to recall PA retreating to empire, down in membership numbers by 80%, and utterly defeated. I remember extracts form alliance chat and posts on the PA boards with some pretty language on it.
The only ones left in 0.0 space where some GODS members, HAOS guys too stubborn to abandon Y-4 and some riffraff that would come up once in a while in assorted frigs.
Aside from that, Deklein was empty, Fade was empty, Pure Blind was a mess, Tribute and Vale were being overrun whenever we would bother.
Untill G came and filled the gaps in fade and somewhat in deklein. They never succeeded in anything more then that, and in all honesty the only reason they did is that we couldn't be arsed to defend all that space. We're talking 5 regions here we more or less totally emptied of residents and controlled for ourselves.
Military defeat my ass. We were up for something different, and bored ****less with playing hide and seek with the few hostiles left here and there across these 5 regions...
This time it's different though. We hold one region, and are taking another to go with it. Fountain will be emptied of FA, period. We know how to work in environments that feature roaming hostiles. That's what we do ourselves. Don't think a few colsup frigs or some hungarian snipers are going to stop us. And neither will boredom.
Killing an alliance is fun. As long as it remains we will be there doing it.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Darko1107
77 Billion is probly like pocket change to FA.
Not really.
Most of the damage done is done in terms of disabling functioning as an alliance in 0.0 space. You can't see that on killboards however :(
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2005.07.09 12:58:00 -
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I wonder what the FA perspective on this war has been...
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:06:00 -
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You know its a massive shame whats happend to hirr (i even remembered the lowercase 'h' :)). What they do in eve is a complete contradiction to them in Planetarion (a game they used to play in, much like xanadu infact).
I remember them throwing their entire fleet at an elysium planet knowing full well they'd get hammered, such great spirit and they earned so much admiration. I'm just gutted their part of this cowardly alliance in eve that actually admits to using tactics such as boring the enemy away, or my personal favorite the 'fish bowl' manouver.
Ah well rant over.
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kromulus
Originally by: Evecrumble
Originally by: Kariss
More respect due, IMO, to the likes of PA/FA than those that would rather fight with BoB than fight against them. Yes, because fighting alliances and corps that you are quite happy to denounce saying they won't fight/are weak/have no pvpers* shows how truly skilled you are.
*And this is what you call fun eh? gg
Yes your right, we should be spending our time attacking those alliances who will fight back. Now if you could just tell me their names and locations ill get right on that :)
Check your standings! Your NAP'd with them all.
And i thought EVOL reset there standings a while back? Seems they have more friends now. Not hack it on your own??
w0rd matey, w0rd. BoB will never fight 5 because they won't be soft targets. They are .. after all pussies who just wants to grief. Even you Molle, whoever you are.
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Kalened
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Kalened on 09/07/2005 13:11:50
Yeah its hard to kill an enemy who's known as LOGolution... enjoy the 30 minute timer :)
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:14:00 -
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They just want us to leave the peaceful mining money whoring alliances alone. HOW SWEET.
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened
Edited by: Kalened on 09/07/2005 13:11:50
Yeah its hard to kill an enemy who's known as LOGolution... enjoy the 30 minute timer :)
Laff. Go flame elsewhere, nublet. |
Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:27:00 -
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And you are ?
Originally by: Kalened
Edited by: Kalened on 09/07/2005 13:11:50
Yeah its hard to kill an enemy who's known as LOGolution... enjoy the 30 minute timer :)
Hmmm.
Originally by: pershphanie
TBH i have to disagree with that. Not fair to lump BoB in with ATUK on that one. Ive fought BoB extensivly and I cant remember them ever logging out to avoid a fight. Ive seem them log off parts of their fleet to pull a log on trap. But that's different. That's logging off to get a fight, not logging off to avoid one. Ive never seen them use WCS's in excess and only seen them SS when they are in a situation which is unwinable for them. It's hard to blame someone for that.
There are a lot of bad things you can say about BoB and be right. Those just arent them. I hate BoB just as much as the next guy. But they are good fighters. ya gotta give em that.
We know Pershphanie. She's on of our biggest fans .
But unlike silly buggers like you, she knows what's true and what's fiction concocted by malicious alts.
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anister
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: anister on 09/07/2005 13:43:05
Originally by: Kuolematon
They are .. after all pussies who just wants to grief. Even you Molle, whoever you are.
Hush.
*edit:
The fact you don't even know who molle is underlines you have no clue at all what you are talking about.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon
w0rd matey, w0rd. BoB will never fight 5 because they won't be soft targets. They are .. after all pussies who just wants to grief. Even you Molle, whoever you are.
We won't fight [5] because we have no reason to.
Lamers like yourself, however, give us all the reason in the world just to come and sit in space and try to prompt u to be brave enough to post with your main.
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Evecrumble
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Kuolematon
w0rd matey, w0rd. BoB will never fight 5 because they won't be soft targets. They are .. after all pussies who just wants to grief. Even you Molle, whoever you are.
We won't fight [5] because we have no reason to.
Lamers like yourself, however, give us all the reason in the world just to come and sit in space and try to prompt u to be brave enough to post with your main.
I think that is his main, but as i hinted on earlier he just has no mates :P
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Kalened
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kalened
Edited by: Kalened on 09/07/2005 13:11:50
Yeah its hard to kill an enemy who's known as LOGolution... enjoy the 30 minute timer :)
Laff. Go flame elsewhere, nublet.
Oh i forget only you guys get to flame here.. Sorry if you dont like the truth but thats your reputation these days. I guess it has to change now with the timer. I hope you enjoy fitting new ships :)
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.07.09 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 09/07/2005 14:03:01
Balazs, that is because of participation in the FA fleet. If at least 1 hun corp pilot participated in killing a ship, its counted in the list of kills from your corporation.
Originally by: Kalened
Oh i forget only you guys get to flame here.. Sorry if you dont like the truth but thats your reputation these days. I guess it has to change now with the timer. I hope you enjoy fitting new ships :)
Thank you
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Moneta
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Posted - 2005.07.09 14:00:00 -
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Edited by: Moneta on 09/07/2005 14:00:56
Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kalened
Edited by: Kalened on 09/07/2005 13:11:50
Yeah its hard to kill an enemy who's known as LOGolution... enjoy the 30 minute timer :)
Laff. Go flame elsewhere, nublet.
Oh i forget only you guys get to flame here.. Sorry if you dont like the truth but thats your reputation these days. I guess it has to change now with the timer. I hope you enjoy fitting new ships :)
Laff. Go flame elsewhere, nublet.
What would you know about our reputation ? You are nobody.
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2005.07.09 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: SirMolle
Starting with the bloody sunday on 2004-10-31 where the by now infamous incidents occured and the flames and arguments about who shot who raged on for about 2 months, and where FA lost 24 bships in one day, and estimated value losses was ~2.2 billons.
Enter the talks, arguments, agreements and whatnot during November 2004, and only some scattered FA losses, totalling about 747 millions.
Enter December 2004, where FA tried sending suicide squads up north to try and take us on, but never got past ec-p, and lost rougly 420 millions value.
Enter January 2005, where we slowly trickled in down to delve and querious, and there actually was fightings... and FA losses totalling ~12 billions.
In february and march of 2005, it escalated, with february totalling losses of ~19 billions, and march ~10 billions. April and may followed to be a little bit calmer, with only some smaller raids from BoB. April totalled about 10 billions in losses for FA, and May about 7 billions. It continues into June, where June ended up with a warbill of ~7.5 billions for FA.
Now, its July.
The first 9 days of July, has so far totalled losses for FA of 6 billions. And this is, mind you, with FA saying "ignore the core, be elsewhere, bore them to death".
Doing the math since the conflict with FA began.. gives FA a total warbill of about 70-75 billions.
Enjoy your wallets. They used to be full.
Our journey has BEGUN.
Yeah right.. Post with your main dude
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Recluse Viramor
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Posted - 2005.07.09 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kalened
Edited by: Kalened on 09/07/2005 13:11:50
Yeah its hard to kill an enemy who's known as LOGolution... enjoy the 30 minute timer :)
Laff. Go flame elsewhere, nublet.
From my experience in the north in just the past 2 months, the statement is true
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.07.09 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kalened
Edited by: Kalened on 09/07/2005 13:11:50
Yeah its hard to kill an enemy who's known as LOGolution... enjoy the 30 minute timer :)
Laff. Go flame elsewhere, nublet.
Oh i forget only you guys get to flame here.. Sorry if you dont like the truth but thats your reputation these days. I guess it has to change now with the timer. I hope you enjoy fitting new ships :)
I'm no fan of evolution, but from past experience, they have used tactics that have later been banned, but I have never seen them use exploits or logging off if they had a chance of winning. Same goes for RKK and BNC. So if you're going o make accusations, atleast prove it or stop flamining this thread unnecessarily. BoB might be the enemy, but this thread is def not worthy of unwanted flames.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
In the Immortal words of Kayosoni (and where applicable)
"This thread sucks. 2 Newb corps trying to make themselves look good... ugh"
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Kalened
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Posted - 2005.07.09 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Moneta
What would you know about our reputation ? You are nobody.
Ouch oh that hurt. I'm so crushed /cry.
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Kalened
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Posted - 2005.07.09 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kalened
Edited by: Kalened on 09/07/2005 13:11:50
Yeah its hard to kill an enemy who's known as LOGolution... enjoy the 30 minute timer :)
Laff. Go flame elsewhere, nublet.
Oh i forget only you guys get to flame here.. Sorry if you dont like the truth but thats your reputation these days. I guess it has to change now with the timer. I hope you enjoy fitting new ships :)
I'm no fan of evolution, but from past experience, they have used tactics that have later been banned, but I have never seen them use exploits or logging off if they had a chance of winning. Same goes for RKK and BNC. So if you're going o make accusations, atleast prove it or stop flamining this thread unnecessarily. BoB might be the enemy, but this thread is def not worthy of unwanted flames.
Sure i'll start proving everything i say when 5 starts proving everything they say LOL.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.07.09 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kalened
Edited by: Kalened on 09/07/2005 13:11:50
Yeah its hard to kill an enemy who's known as LOGolution... enjoy the 30 minute timer :)
Laff. Go flame elsewhere, nublet.
Oh i forget only you guys get to flame here.. Sorry if you dont like the truth but thats your reputation these days. I guess it has to change now with the timer. I hope you enjoy fitting new ships :)
I'm no fan of evolution, but from past experience, they have used tactics that have later been banned, but I have never seen them use exploits or logging off if they had a chance of winning. Same goes for RKK and BNC. So if you're going o make accusations, atleast prove it or stop flamining this thread unnecessarily. BoB might be the enemy, but this thread is def not worthy of unwanted flames.
Sure i'll start proving everything i say when 5 starts proving everything they say LOL.
[5] =! BoB.
Get a grip and calm down.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
In the Immortal words of Kayosoni (and where applicable)
"This thread sucks. 2 Newb corps trying to make themselves look good... ugh"
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Nifel
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Posted - 2005.07.09 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened
Sure i'll start proving everything i say when 5 starts proving everything they say LOL.
What's 5 got to do with this?
"We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." |
Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.07.09 15:00:00 -
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Thanks for cheering up my morning Kalaned you really are turning into one of the most ridiculous trolls.
P.S. How's the war against PA going? EXODUS doing ok there with the 'support' of all their allies? ROFL!
Eve Blacklight Style
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.07.09 15:12:00 -
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ROFL he really is a very fun little troll.
Nice job on recruitment EXO
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Uther Agnoius
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Posted - 2005.07.09 15:14:00 -
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Bastards making a thread while I was sleeping... 
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.07.09 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Thank you
and that doesn't include the days like this
Very inaccurate. The day u are referring was the time back in NSA. IRON are a totally different alliance now. Sadly, old NSA corps were for a long time (and are even now)) listed as IRON Corps which is infact not true.
Btw: PWNED! 
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.07.09 15:19:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Btw: PWNED!
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Deltitnu
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Posted - 2005.07.09 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: Deltitnu on 09/07/2005 15:20:13
hi mom
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Nifel
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Posted - 2005.07.09 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: TWD
Thank you
and that doesn't include the days like this
Very inaccurate. The day u are referring was the time back in NSA. IRON are a totally different alliance now. Sadly, old NSA corps were for a long time (and are even now)) listed as IRON Corps which is infact not true.
Btw: PWNED!
That was remedied about a month ago I believe. Nice ratio =].
"We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." |
Emno
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Posted - 2005.07.09 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Edited by: TWD on 09/07/2005 14:23:54
Balazs, that is because of participation in the FA fleet. If at least 1 hun corp pilot participated in killing a ship, its counted in the list of kills from your corporation. That way it might look better then it is in reality. Comparing in alliance vs alliance gives a more accurate view.
Originally by: Kalened
Oh i forget only you guys get to flame here.. Sorry if you dont like the truth but thats your reputation these days. I guess it has to change now with the timer. I hope you enjoy fitting new ships :)
Thank you
and that doesn't include the days like this
factor in actual cost to replace a bs and cost to replace hac and we are doing alot better
As for kal turning this into a flame fest evol created the impression of logging off whenever they met a fight during their little trip to v7-mid with the reseting all standings thing, its not our fault thats what we knwo evol for now.
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Kalle Port
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Posted - 2005.07.09 15:29:00 -
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We began the Fountain Alliance, tired of it, and now we have chosen to end it. Simple, really.
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Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2005.07.09 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Edited by: TWD on 09/07/2005 14:23:54
Balazs, that is because of participation in the FA fleet. If at least 1 hun corp pilot participated in killing a ship, its counted in the list of kills from your corporation. That way it might look better then it is in reality. Comparing in alliance vs alliance gives a more accurate view.
Well I cehcked it again, I'm familiar with the "assist" type statistics, FA killboard use it to... But the link I posted above is a HUN Corp. only statistic, and there are only kills with a HUN member in the final blow or a HUN member destroyed.
So my calculation should be quite accurate...
I do not know about the alliance vs alliance statistic, but it looks realy bad for us, thats true, but consider that, that our allaince have a realy big section of industrial ppl, who are easy kills (ad usualy fly expensive ships), while you guys are mainly PvP persons (in the particular corporation wich are on your killboard).. thats why we do not **** our pants looking your killboards... while it suggest we should
I like the feature on the killboard to compare kill ratios in ISK... if only the killmais would contain the loot not destroyed. Than a quit good and accurate formula could be done.... it would show the nice summ of ISK we get from your T2 equipment
oh, PS.: thx for the civil answer, I expected a bunch of flames ... 
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Woad Raider
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Posted - 2005.07.09 15:52:00 -
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you guys really need to get a clue! all i do is mine and do missions ,then give it all to my main in fountain. so how you gonna beat me (and this is 1 of many alts)and most fa peeps do the same,anyway best of luck"
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.07.09 16:01:00 -
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So in 9 months (since 2004-10-31) we've had losses of 70-75B
An impressive number - or so it would seem.
Lets break it down a bit. (rough numbers here)
Losses per month ~8B
Losses per day ~250M
250M per day - That looks kinda bad....
But wait... With an average 25 corps in FA during this time:
- Thats a loss of 10M per corp per day
I'm sorry... But if your point was to prove that FA has/is beeing hurt ISK wise....
You just have to try harder I guess...
Or was the point something else?
BIG Lottery
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2005.07.09 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Woad Raider
you guys really need to get a clue! all i do is mine and do missions ,then give it all to my main in fountain. so how you gonna beat me (and this is 1 of many alts)and most fa peeps do the same,anyway best of luck"
Wow,
that sounds like quite the experience you have in eve...
All you FA people must be truly happy, all that money \o/...
gg etc
best of luck finding something interesting to do.
/applaud
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Band Zior
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Posted - 2005.07.09 16:11:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Woad Raider
you guys really need to get a clue! all i do is mine and do missions ,then give it all to my main in fountain. so how you gonna beat me (and this is 1 of many alts)and most fa peeps do the same,anyway best of luck"
This has got to be anti-FA alt.
I don't think any FA member would write this. They are not retarded.
Or are they?
wtf
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Moneta
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Posted - 2005.07.09 16:13:00 -
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omg, did missions just get nerfed to about 50% earnage compared to before ?
Oh damn, did Raven jsut get nerfed so they're alot harder to solo now ?
Oh wait, did someone show up in fountain preventing you from mining your ark and shooting your NPC's all day as an alternative ?
Conquering people is disrupting their ability to recover as well as removing their ability to use their space.
Sooner or later you'll move. We can do this for a year if we have to, ask PA We dont care about killing your wallet, we simply want your space.
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Zenst
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Posted - 2005.07.09 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
So in 9 months (since 2004-10-31) we've had losses of 70-75B
An impressive number - or so it would seem.
Lets break it down a bit. (rough numbers here)
Losses per month ~8B
Losses per day ~250M
250M per day - That looks kinda bad....
But wait... With an average 25 corps in FA during this time:
- Thats a loss of 10M per corp per day
I'm sorry... But if your point was to prove that FA has/is beeing hurt ISK wise....
You just have to try harder I guess...
Or was the point something else?
Your miners cant mine ark - so as they cant mine they wine on alt.
You dont control your home system.
Lost revenue from lack of mining/NPCing alone makes any ship loss pale into insignificance, especialy when you factor insurance.
The same people seem to appear on our kills alot indicationg that even though FA is a large alliance that when it comes to putting a stand on there home system the count is less than 10% that (and probably 1% but I CBA to statisticly hand juggle unlike some).
ALl I will say is that there are 3 types of 3.
1) Those that give a flying monkey and get stuck in defending there space.
2) Those that cant mine and alt wine
3) those that play with spreadsheets.
Which one are you, and no dont end up haveing a 7 hour council meeting to work it out only to put onto the following weeks agenda as nobody could agree, just pick one.
PS Was nice to see FrankTik out and about, he aint lost his touch. Just a shame he seems to not have anobody to back up his ubber scouting skills.
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Rodney Munch
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Posted - 2005.07.09 16:18:00 -
[65]
Originally by: TornSoul
So in 9 months (since 2004-10-31) we've had losses of 70-75B
An impressive number - or so it would seem.
Lets break it down a bit. (rough numbers here)
Losses per month ~8B
Losses per day ~250M
250M per day - That looks kinda bad....
But wait... With an average 25 corps in FA during this time:
- Thats a loss of 10M per corp per day
I'm sorry... But if your point was to prove that FA has/is beeing hurt ISK wise....
You just have to try harder I guess...
Or was the point something else?
Considering we havent been in Fountain everyday since that day your calculations are worked out from, your attempt to spin this is flawed.
Unlucky, try again, spin me another one.
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2005.07.09 16:18:00 -
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Can I join FA pls?
It sounds like a truly remarkable and rewarding experience
the "7 hour council meetings" is what sold it for me i think
anyway,
Yours Faithfully
A very hopeful
Sassinak
Sass
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.07.09 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: balasz simon
Well I cehcked it again, I'm familiar with the "assist" type statistics, FA killboard use it to... But the link I posted above is a HUN Corp. only statistic, and there are only kills with a HUN member in the final blow or a HUN member destroyed.
The http://www.killboard.net/FA/?p=corp&c=HUN%20Corp. links is participation. You'll see that HUN corp has about 8 final blows on BoB battleships. |
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.07.09 16:31:00 -
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Leaving this locked, as it hasn't provided fruitful discussion, and has invited flames.
It also borders on re-opening of previously locked topics.
Click.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.07.09 16:31:00 -
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Kal put a sock in it please.
As for EVOL, yes they have logged off alot when the neutral standings were first set, they came to dek/branch/venal and they did log on and off quite alot. Not that i really give a crap. Btw this was NOT logging off IN combat. I mean going to a hostile system, noticing they cant get out because the PVP'ers have come up to play, then logging. Not an exploit at all. But, there squads were to small to engage blobs (though at some times we didnt blob that much), so they didnt really have much choice. I havent lost respect for evol over it, they are still an uber corp with great pvpers. But it does get a tad lame after a while.
In the case of the isk stuff on the killboard. We have killed Sooooooooo many bob hacs, i think we killed 6 in one day once, we lose hardly any in comparisson, so that will add to our isk killage big time. That part of the killboard is innaccurate imo, and cant really be quoted.
And blacklight, its over, but thanks for your concern :).
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Romulus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.07.09 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Balazs Simon
Originally by: TWD
Edited by: TWD on 09/07/2005 14:23:54
Balazs, that is because of participation in the FA fleet. If at least 1 hun corp pilot participated in killing a ship, its counted in the list of kills from your corporation. That way it might look better then it is in reality. Comparing in alliance vs alliance gives a more accurate view.
Well I cehcked it again, I'm familiar with the "assist" type statistics, FA killboard use it to... But the link I posted above is a HUN Corp. only statistic, and there are only kills with a HUN member in the final blow or a HUN member destroyed.
So my calculation should be quite accurate...
I do not know about the alliance vs alliance statistic, but it looks realy bad for us, thats true, but consider that, that our allaince have a realy big section of industrial ppl, who are easy kills (ad usualy fly expensive ships), while you guys are mainly PvP persons (in the particular corporation wich are on your killboard).. thats why we do not **** our pants looking your killboards... while it suggest we should
I like the feature on the killboard to compare kill ratios in ISK... if only the killmais would contain the loot not destroyed. Than a quit good and accurate formula could be done.... it would show the nice summ of ISK we get from your T2 equipment
oh, PS.: thx for the civil answer, I expected a bunch of flames ...
Yeah, no doubt we drop T2 loot. Like most real pvpers do
Id doubt we lose as much as u guys tbh l33t lewt
Not to mention all the other T2 stuff he dropped also
But tbh, i dont think loot matters. It would get silly if we started adding in Clone and implants costs etc. And our kb stas are based on insurance payouts,so its completely fair for all involved.
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