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Vlad Tepish
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Posted - 2005.07.10 20:53:00 -
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Well CCP. U finally did it.. U took the fun and the gameplay out of the game. I do or I did agent missions using 2 accounts, but after the missile nerf its almost impossible to kill frigs, ( this is where u should put the "S" logo Superman uses on the Frigates, cause they are really hard to kill.) Correct me if im wrong,, u nerf the missiles, only for putting in "new" skills to upgrade the missile damage... Talk about cutting the dogs tail off and feeding the dog with it.. I really hope u at CCP will "unnerf" the missiles, otherwise im outta here... I know 3 paying accounts doesent add much up on your bankaccount, but I think alot of other players feel the same way as I do..
Just my two cents of Whining.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.10 20:54:00 -
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Impossible to kill frigs?
Have you tried fitting say, an assault launcher and a web?
Have you heard of adapting?
Good lord... --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.07.10 20:55:00 -
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JC Corp?
Hmmmmmmm.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Finix Jaeger
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Posted - 2005.07.10 20:56:00 -
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Could we like sticky one of these whining threads somewhere so that they dont post a new one every hour? ------------------------- Grand Agitator Rabid defender of the Homeworld voice
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2005.07.10 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Vlad Tepish Well CCP. U finally did it.. U took the fun and the gameplay out of the game. I do or I did agent missions using 2 accounts, but after the missile nerf its almost impossible to kill frigs, ( this is where u should put the "S" logo Superman uses on the Frigates, cause they are really hard to kill.) Correct me if im wrong,, u nerf the missiles, only for putting in "new" skills to upgrade the missile damage... Talk about cutting the dogs tail off and feeding the dog with it.. I really hope u at CCP will "unnerf" the missiles, otherwise im outta here... I know 3 paying accounts doesent add much up on your bankaccount, but I think alot of other players feel the same way as I do..
Just my two cents of Whining.
Vlad Tepish
boo hoo
*mirel yirrin hands Vlad a T2 Tissue
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Thor Darkwing
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:01:00 -
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can I have your stuff? pretty please
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Noflabor
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:03:00 -
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This is not a whining post. this is reallity. We are a agent runner corp. now it's imposible to do our job .lets say we put 10 sentry guns to every stargate in eve and they fire at any aggression. would all the pvp'ers stay in game? i guess not. well agent runners can't work anymore. that's all CCP did. i use 2 accounts too. but having 3 or 4 supreme drones go after me in warpinpoint no thx.
BTW PVP sucks too..
Regards Noflabor |

MacMillan
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:07:00 -
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Well the missile nerf hit me hard for an hour or so but after I worked out I could easyaly do missions using drones and the 4 (yes i said 4) Large turrets i can place on my Raven (yes i know turrets on a raven ) I had no real problems.
tbh its made the game a little more fun although i do miss my lovely IWinButton(tm)
Train the skills, use the turrets and the drones and missions are not that bad at all
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/07/2005 21:07:57
Originally by: Noflabor This is not a whining post. this is reallity. We are a agent runner corp. now it's imposible to do our job .lets say we put 10 sentry guns to every stargate in eve and they fire at any aggression. would all the pvp'ers stay in game? i guess not. well agent runners can't work anymore. that's all CCP did. i use 2 accounts too. but having 3 or 4 supreme drones go after me in warpinpoint no thx.
BTW PVP sucks too..
Regards Noflabor
WTF are you smoking? Missiles have been boosted in both PvP and PvE. All you have to do is use the right missiles for the right targets, and use target painters, and they do quite a bit more damage than before. 
Missions are *easier* than before. --
Want your POS to make money? Call me up. I've designed POSs that make upwards of 50m a day. |

Noflabor
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:12:00 -
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try the infested outpost mission and we talk after that :!
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Noflabor try the infested outpost mission and we talk after that :!
Done it
Twice
Get to above 70km. You cant be touched.
I've not been aggressed by the 3 supremes on entry. That would probably result in ship loss with that stupid piece of modern art your ship gets stuck on.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:17:00 -
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And now, you don't fit torps to kill frigs, the same as you don't fit 1400s to kill frigs.
OH MY GOD SOMETHING IS DIFFERENT! QUIT TEH GAME CAPTAIN!!!!!!!111111111111111111111222222222372271742iHishadone
Try:
Fitting a web. Fitting smaller launchers. Using another ship. Taking some mates in frigs/crusiers etc along with you. Doing something other than a constant L4 agent mission grind.
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MY NAME IS VERONE OF SNIGG, AND I WANT YOUR BUM!
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: ErrorS on 10/07/2005 21:18:08 http://home1.gte.net/res0ex29/mission.jpg
what's the problem here? ________
I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
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Noflabor
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:19:00 -
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but when u warp in at 20 u have to get away to 70km first . but with 3 of 4 supemes firing at you u have to warp out after 30 or so secs. just about the time to align ur ship to warp out !!
better be a bug
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Rei Storm
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:21:00 -
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Oh noes!OH NOES!
----------------------------- I hate to advocate sex, drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone... But they've always works for me... |

bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:28:00 -
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its not fun if u get stuck inside the walls of the structure on infested outposts
bye bye ship then
i just think they need to move the warp in beacon and it'll be fine
btw me and a m8 did that mission in 2 vagabonds
took ages... but once we were clear of the drone structure it was easy
:D Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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Kerby Lane
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kerby Lane on 10/07/2005 21:50:27
Quote: This is not a whining post.
It is.
Quote: We are a agent runner corp. now it's imposible to do our job .lets say we put 10 sentry guns to every stargate in eve and they fire at any aggression.
Then in will be impossible to camp gates. Is it impossible to run lvl 4 now ? I dont think so as I see lost of people running lvl 4 right now and I`ve done it post patch with both Apoc and Raven. Nothing actually changes for Apoc except for lowered bounty and 2-3 harder missions.
It is also risk vs reward again. How much risk did you have prepatch with 2 accounts each ? I can tell = risk --> 0 If you lost ships it was because of lags of afk.
How can you compare it with pvp ?
Quote: would all the pvp'ers stay in game? i guess not.
Weakest will go away. Other will adapt and camp stations\belts\compexes entries and so on. Againg most pvp`ers dont directly earn by pvp so they wont care.
Quote: well agent runners can't work anymore. that's all CCP did. i use 2 accounts too. but having 3 or 4 supreme drones go after me in warpinpoint no thx.
Are they following you through all missions ? Thats sad 8( Bug report in then as AFAIK there is only one such mission in game. You are whining because you cant chain missions like before and there are some which you cant do. Try to think and adapt. If not I`ll be happy to have your stuff and your corpmates are welcome as well.
Originally by: Noflabor try the infested outpost mission and we talk after that :!
I`ve just soloed in in Raven.
PS Please , I know its hard, but please post the old stories in old threads.
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Kerby Lane
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ikvar And now, you don't fit torps to kill frigs, the same as you don't fit 1400s to kill frigs.
OH MY GOD SOMETHING IS DIFFERENT! QUIT TEH GAME CAPTAIN!!!!!!!111111111111111111111222222222372271742iHishadone
Try:
Fitting a web. Fitting smaller launchers. Using another ship. Taking some mates in frigs/crusiers etc along with you. Doing something other than a constant L4 agent mission grind.

I think its the worsest whining post about lvl 4. The main reason is:
Quote: I do or I did agent missions using 2 accounts, but after the missile nerf its almost impossible to kill frigs, ( this is where u should put the "S" logo Superman uses on the Frigates, cause they are really hard to kill.)
1. If the guy cant kill the NPC frigs using 2 accounts I dont know what to say more. Consider suicide
2. Frigates are hard to kill by anti-BS BS. Thats ok. Live with it or see p1.
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infused
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:51:00 -
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Wow... just wow...
I suggest you go an play World of Warcraft. I hear that is n00b friendly.
Seriously though... I took on a rat spawn where there were about 14 missile rats. Normally I would have breezed through this, but man... those light missiles FLY! I was getting hit every second by atleast one, sometimes 3, and it nailed me. It was quite alot harder to kill these frigates.
Note I was in a crusier.
[World Domination] [Patch 3366-3538: Mirror Here] |

DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2005.07.10 22:15:00 -
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ya wanna towel?
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Noflabor
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Posted - 2005.07.10 22:22:00 -
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i wonder why only pvp"ers reply. i guess in between log off's they don't have much stuff to do else than flaming on other pls problems. let us whine. we love it. and we whine less then some of u lot PVP'ers.
sorry for the 1 or 2 real players in this thread :)
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infused
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Posted - 2005.07.10 22:24:00 -
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The only people whining about the missile nerf are the level 4 runners that OMGICANTPAWNANYTHINGANYMORE...
Missiles are more powerful, STILL have less skills than turrets, what's the problem here?
[World Domination] [Patch 3366-3538: Mirror Here] |

Rei Storm
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Posted - 2005.07.10 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Noflabor i wonder why only pvp"ers reply. i guess in between log off's they don't have much stuff to do else than flaming on other pls problems. let us whine. we love it. and we whine less then some of u lot PVP'ers.
sorry for the 1 or 2 real players in this thread :)
Where does it say I'm a pvp'er? Great saying: Assumptions are the mother of all F*** ups...
----------------------------- I hate to advocate sex, drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone... But they've always works for me... |

Kerby Lane
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Posted - 2005.07.10 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Rei Storm
Originally by: Noflabor i wonder why only pvp"ers reply. i guess in between log off's they don't have much stuff to do else than flaming on other pls problems. let us whine. we love it. and we whine less then some of u lot PVP'ers.
sorry for the 1 or 2 real players in this thread :)
Where does it say I'm a pvp'er? Great saying: Assumptions are the mother of all F*** ups...
BTW I dont see his point anyway. Many of the alliance guys make living by NPCing so I cant see how its possible to clearly divide people to those categories.
Yes, there are some pvp only guys form pirate\mercs corps and some pure carebears but many are in between.
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Vilserx
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Posted - 2005.07.10 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: infused
Missiles are more powerful, STILL have less skills than turrets, what's the problem here?
I can accept the nerf. Yes, the Raven was overpowered. Yes, it has been balanced.
But why does everyone insist that missiles are more powerful when my torps are doing less damage to BSs post-patch? ---------------------------
VSX EVE Design |

Ashay
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Posted - 2005.07.10 23:01:00 -
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OH god... that's just so sad. I'm really torn up! I can hardly fight back the tears.. <sniff sniff> ... does anyone have some "Cry more Newb" tissue paper?
Coldwar is the best patch Eva!
WTF I have to train so many new skills ... It's just so unfair, you know, having a comparable training path to the Turret users... <sniff sniff> ... what was CCP thinking? I mean s**t - don't they realize that the reason I choose missles was because it was so easy and I have no skillz? How dare they level the playing field now!
We all really feel for you... seriously.
Don't let the door hit your newb-ass too hard on the way out. And escrow me your stuff. But I will most likely see your crying newb-ass in game - yep - we both know it.
CCP: Don't compromise!!! You have a great game, and a great patch. You know it, we know it. Don't listen to these newbs. Newbs whine when things change - it's the only thing the are pro at - whining. Don't compromise!!!!!
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2005.07.10 23:05:00 -
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Are these idiot posts ever going to end?
No, you can't kill frigs with your largest weapons. Yes, you will have to mix launcher types if you expect to kill everything. No, the Raven is not useless. It is now balanced. Yes, I do have personal experience with Ravens and gunships in PvE. Ravens were Easy-mode before patch. (Why do you think EVERYONE was using them in lvl 4's?)
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2005.07.10 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Noflabor i wonder why only pvp"ers reply. i guess in between log off's they don't have much stuff to do else than flaming on other pls problems. let us whine. we love it. and we whine less then some of u lot PVP'ers.
sorry for the 1 or 2 real players in this thread :)
Yeah, those stupid whining pvp pirates. They need to learn to STFU and go back to killing babies and drowning puppies!!!!
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.07.10 23:12:00 -
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Whine: MISSILES SUXOR NOW. Answer: Tank CEO, the most famous pirate in EVE, still uses a Raven. Carebear: ?!?! --
Want your POS to make money? Call me up. I've designed POSs that make upwards of 50m a day. |

Dark Shikari2
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Posted - 2005.07.10 23:12:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari2 on 10/07/2005 23:11:44 Edit: ALT
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