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cold lazarus
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: cold lazarus on 10/07/2005 21:06:29
Respect goes out to Aegis Militia for the destruction of an unarmed shuttle on its return trip from the late Emperors memorial service. You truly show the the universe what cowards you are
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:13:00 -
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Kinda stupid to fly an unarmed shuttle out of an area with hostiles..
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cold lazarus
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:19:00 -
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not when you went unarmed to show respect.
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Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:27:00 -
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respect paid in kind to the UK for destroying two ships on the WAY to the ceremony 
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cold lazarus
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:32:00 -
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fully armed and combat capable i would presume.
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Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2005.07.10 21:41:00 -
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yes, and that means what?
for the record they were destroyed at the jump gate into Amarr, you broke the cease fire first so dont come here complaining about what we had and your boohoo of a ship loss outside the sanctioned area
hindsight for you... you should have came in a combat ship and flew into amarr in a shuttle
peace was established at the ceremony, your boys broke that first, we simply retaliated
btw Thanx goes to Tank CEO for the tech II ship drops (2 retributions and a crusader), we will put them to good use 
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Shylan
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Posted - 2005.07.10 23:08:00 -
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 Originally by: cold lazarus
Edited by: cold lazarus on 10/07/2005 21:06:29
Respect goes out to Aegis Militia for the destruction of an unarmed shuttle on its return trip from the late Emperors memorial service. You truly show the the universe what cowards you are
LOL  this makes me laugh so much. How about the Ushra'Khan cowards that destroyed my Omen on the way to the memorial service. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. 
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Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2005.07.10 23:10:00 -
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amazing how deadly unarmed shuttles can be
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bonesy19uk
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Posted - 2005.07.10 23:40:00 -
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My apologies to Laz for causing him trouble, however I make no apologies for trying to destroy enemies of the Minmatar people. And there was no official Alliance wide ceasefire, so infact, nothing was broken.
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Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2005.07.10 23:46:00 -
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We had discussed this in detail in the few hours before the ceremony and we attempted to keep it civil to show our respect to our fallen emporer. In the future, communicate with one of the Aegis Militia Leaders and we will at least hear you out and voice our stance.
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2005.07.11 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: bonesy19uk
My apologies to Laz for causing him trouble, however I make no apologies for trying to destroy enemies of the Minmatar people. And there was no official Alliance wide ceasefire, so infact, nothing was broken.
Glad we cleared that up. I managed to stop myself from shooting UK in amarr during or after the ceremony, even though I urged them to leave, out of repect for CVA's wishes, not any agreement with UK.
You couldn't honestly expect to attack our people with a full fleet one jump away just as the ceremony was starting and get away with it. As it is, you all caused at least 3 pilots to not make it to the ceremony.
Next time I would suggest contacting an AM representative so something can be arranged.
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Garreck
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Posted - 2005.07.11 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: cold lazarus
Respect goes out to Aegis Militia for the destruction of an unarmed shuttle on its return trip from the late Emperors memorial service. You truly show the the universe what cowards you are
Respect goes out to Cold Lazarus for trying to defame the Aegis Militia for doing its duty. You truly show the universe what a hypocrite you are.
Two items, the next time you want a ceasefire:
-arrange one
-make sure your own alliance doesn't shoot first
Garreck
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2005.07.11 07:27:00 -
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please let me add here that this might have partly been caused by me as i only had an agreed on cease fire with -MM- and RCS who attended the ceremony in amarr. i was thinking though that the rest of U'K would not want to harm their members who came peacefully by attacking AM and CVA pilots on their way to the ceremony.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2005.07.11 08:07:00 -
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It's obvious that what we have here is a case of victims. On both sides of our conflict we have extemists that care not for respect and courtesy of ceremony, but in only killing. I am not one of these, nor is Cold Lazarus or my nephew Sibuto Obefemi.
Out of respect for CVA and the ceremony of mourning, we who attended left or ships of war close by and came to Amarr in unarmed shuttles. This was a willing and self chosen gesture by us to ease peoples minds to our intentions. How welcome would we have been arriving in a fully loaded battleship?
I can not speak for my alliance as it contains many diverse and varied personalities, however from what I have learned they in fact did target and destroy an armed ship of WAR prior to the service, at a time we in shuttles we in Amarr itself.
Cold Lazarus and Sibuto Obefemi were destroyed and podded while in shuttles in retailiation of this act, which smacks of ones unable to fight against those on par but rather pick off the weak and undefended. Rather than hunt down those responsible, it was far easier to mearly kill those in attendence, ones with no defence. Truely honor has taken a back seat to revenge. Perhaps shuttles were the limit of your skills?
Fret not though honorless ones, now that your craven and honorless ways have shown themselves for what they are I promise you full retribution. Those involved have proven to me they are unworthy of respect and life. They are personna non grata in the universe at large.
For the price of cheap and easy revenge, you have sold your soul to a place you realy did not want to be. You have earned a special place in my heart, a place you will learn to fear.
Sarkos
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.07.11 08:36:00 -
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To be honest, Sarkos, had we been war enemies and had there been a truce agreed, I'd have shot you.
Terrorist like yourself should be dealt with harshly.
[Come to Daddy]
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2005.07.11 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sarkos
It's obvious that what we have here is a case of victims. On both sides of our conflict we have extemists that care not for respect and courtesy of ceremony, but in only killing. I am not one of these, nor is Cold Lazarus or my nephew Sibuto Obefemi.
I agree, there was no hostile action on the part of yourself that I saw. I am unsure about Cold Lazarus and Sibuto. I believe they were in shuttles but I am unsure if they were there for the duration of the ceramony. I was busy taking camera drone footage. Micromanaging your positions was someone elses job.
Originally by: Sarkos
Out of respect for CVA and the ceremony of mourning, we who attended left or ships of war close by and came to Amarr in unarmed shuttles. This was a willing and self chosen gesture by us to ease peoples minds to our intentions. How welcome would we have been arriving in a fully loaded battleship?
Quite right and had you come to enemy territory in a battleship you would have been eliminated. I did see one enemy crow just before the ceramony started and luckily it left before we agreed to destroy it. This is a service of morning and I, as well as others, are very aware that it would have been a simple task to eliminate some targets of opportunity. We will not chance disruption of the Emperors service for such nonsense.
Originally by: Sarkos
I can not speak for my alliance as it contains many diverse and varied personalities, however from what I have learned they in fact did target and destroy an armed ship of WAR prior to the service, at a time we in shuttles were in Amarr itself.
And where was this ship going? What were his intentions? Every ship at that ceramony was armed. This is enemy territory and a service for a prominent figure in the empire. We will bring whatever we wish to our own ceramony because we are on the same side and will not cause disruption to the emperors service. The Ushra'Khan does not have that same luxary and I'm fairly sure that our positions reversed, you would feel much the same way.
Originally by: Sarkos
Cold Lazarus and Sibuto Obefemi were destroyed and podded while in shuttles in retailiation of this act, which smacks of ones unable to fight against those on par but rather pick off the weak and undefended. Rather than hunt down those responsible, it was far easier to mearly kill those in attendence, ones with no defence. Truely honor has taken a back seat to revenge. Perhaps shuttles were the limit of your skills?
Perhaps if your compatriots had respected the ceramony in the first place, this would not have happened. I am appauled that a fleet of ... I believe 5 - 10 assult frigates (I apologize for not having correct intel. Again, I was busy enjoying the service. Micromanaging you people was someone elses job. A duty that wouldn't be required if such acts would simply not be committed but we cannot expect to have that now can we?) would wait at the entrance to the system and take out participants.
Originally by: Sarkos
Fret not though honorless ones, now that your craven and honorless ways have shown themselves for what they are I promise you full retribution. Those involved have proven to me they are unworthy of respect and life. They are personna non grata in the universe at large.
For the price of cheap and easy revenge, you have sold your soul to a place you realy did not want to be. You have earned a special place in my heart, a place you will learn to fear.
Sarkos
It seems to me that the "Cheap and easy revenge" was just as easy as the entrance "Guards" killing spree in the first place. Therefore I would recommend being silent and meditating on these matters. The situation was completely avoidable had your compatriots not set things in motion. They are the ones to blame, not us.
Now stop being silly. Please take into account the situation when making arguments lest I beable to easily pull them apart for all to see.
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Aphoxema G
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Posted - 2005.07.11 09:33:00 -
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Interestin'.. I'ain't heard'a no 'cease fire'..
Either I'm really not payin' any'a 'ttention, or'else...
Ushra'Khan'as shown me plenty'a honor in'na past.. and plenty'a dishonor. The 'varied' personalities ain't'a good thing. If'n ya'all are fightin' for'a same thing.. why aren't'ya'all fight for'it'ith the same rules?
Oh? What's'at? 'Cause'a the freedom to do'at you want? You'ain't nothin' but'a bunch'a punts'at'ave no decency for any real organization.. you've gon'an only proven'at you'ave none'a this respect you're talkin'a 'bout.
Did'ya reprimand'a people'at broke any 'cease fire'? Why didn't'ya message some'on 'portant and clear'it'up?
YOU FAILED'A REPAIR ANY DAMAGES, AND NOW'AT YOU'RE THROWIN' ACCUSATIONS, YOU'RE ONLY MAKIN'IT WORSE!
Does U'K even'ave'a common charter?! Do'ya guys even write any rules!? No wonder so many'a ya'ave been enslaved! You're too arrogant'a see'ow unorganized you guys really are! Primitive, mindless warriors.. nothin' more, nothin' less.
(And, That's me sayin'it.. a little disclaimer.. If'n I said'a wrong thing, I'm hopin'a see appropriate punishment for'it.)
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.11 10:55:00 -
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Edited by: Aodha Khan on 11/07/2005 10:57:12
The Ushra'Khan talks of 'respect' in the same breath as the Amarr emperor. What a bunch of Midular drones you have become. This Amarrian was enslaving the very people you swear to protect.
Warriors I once looked up to as a child and then fought alongside, have become weak puppets. Truly sad ....
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.07.11 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Aodha Khan
Edited by: Aodha Khan on 11/07/2005 10:57:12
The Ushra'Khan talks of 'respect' in the same breath as the Amarr emperor. What a bunch of Midular drones you have become. This Amarrian was enslaving the very people you swear to protect.
Warriors I once looked up to as a child and then fought alongside, have become weak puppets. Truly sad ....
That's rich, coming from someone who has volutarily become a puppet to a cult that would willingly bleed every single Minmatar alive.
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Axen Vormar
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Posted - 2005.07.11 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Axen Vormar on 11/07/2005 11:37:14
I think our pilots knew what danger awaits them when the ceasfire is broken ,father Sarkos.
But I dont like the attitude of pilots who are ruthless. And the responsibility to let us get out alive laid in many hands, in enemies and friendly hands.
It wonders me somehow that the biggest enemy of the Aegis Militia was not harmed in the process of the Ceremony, named Istvaan Shogaatsu. Maybe I dont remember correctly either..
I promised to hold back any aggressive behaviour. I passed by the CVA fleet and the AM squad and I was lucky to get out.
To the member of the Blood Inquisition: Sarkos still fights for the only goal that the Minmatar should fight for: freeing our brethren. You became part of something that will kill them instead...
This Ceremony was the last act of peace for a long fire, you will get the opportunity to face us in real combat again... Shuttle killers..
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Tar Kovsky
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Posted - 2005.07.11 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Aphoxema G
You'ain't nothin' but'a bunch'a punts'at'ave no decency for any real organization.
Not every organization in the universe wants to be jackbooted fascist slaver thugs with perfectly aligned signature logos. We're a pretty rag-tag group who really agree on only two things: slavery must end, and violence is necessary. And we consider this to be not a "bug" but a "feature". Originally by: Aphoxema G
Did'ya reprimand'a people'at broke any 'cease fire'? Why didn't'ya message some'on 'portant and clear'it'up?
As previously stated, two individual groups within the U'K -- RCS and -MM- -- asked for and received a cease fire. No member of either group violated it. Do you feel that it's right to reprimand someone for breaking an agreement to which they were not a party?
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2005.07.11 13:37:00 -
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Pulgor,
What I am saying and why I call those involved cowards and without honor is this. Had they waited for Cold Lazarus and Sibuto to change shuttles for their ships of war, then destroyed them, nothing would be said. Combat pilots in warships, at war can expect hostilities in enemy territory. I can accept this easily.
However choosing to destroy them while they helplessly travel from the ceremony to their ships is cowardly and without honor. Only a fool would travel from Molden Heath to Amarr in a shuttle, and these men are no fools. My only thought is that those involved had fear of facing an armed enemy, an enemy that may have given an even fight. But then again I have seen AM pilots flee from an even fight before so this should not totaly surprise me.
I do not hold all in AM as personna non grata, only those involved. Many pilots in AM have earned my respect as warriors that fight with honor and grace as have many pilots of all of our enemies. Warrior Bromide in fact has entered our space several times after heavily dipping into the Spiced wine, and we , out of respect, have escorted him out of our territory. We and CVA have also allowed lifepods free leave after a battle, again out of respect.
Sarkos
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Baytt
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Posted - 2005.07.11 13:56:00 -
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notice we did not fire on ur shuttles at the memorial, we did however fire back at the 6 frig/af/ceptor fleet once they engaged, and we engaged ur unarmed shuttles near myyhera, not amarr, and this shouldnt matter at all cause ur ceasefire was with CVA/PIE not AM
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Selena D'Kree
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Posted - 2005.07.11 14:13:00 -
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This is going to go on as a he said she said drama. AM was never contacted, nor did we make any such contacts to end a cease fire. We, out of respect for the Empire, did not fire within Amarr or during the services. In the furture if UK would like a cease fire with AM please contact AM directly instead of thinking we are going to just follow what everyone else is doing.
Always,
Selly
It is not the path we chose but the direction in which we chose to travel upon it.
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.11 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: Aodha Khan on 11/07/2005 14:31:43
Originally by: Rodj Blake
That's rich, coming from someone who has volutarily become a puppet to a cult that would willingly bleed every single Minmatar alive.
I'm not surprised your defending the Ushra'Khan now that they show 'respect' for your kind. Soon enough they will become the very thing they fought against in the first place. The weaker Matari shall have to face what is coming to them.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2005.07.11 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Aodha Khan
Edited by: Aodha Khan on 11/07/2005 14:31:43
Originally by: Rodj Blake
That's rich, coming from someone who has volutarily become a puppet to a cult that would willingly bleed every single Minmatar alive.
I'm not surprised your defending the Ushra'Khan now that they show 'respect' for your kind. Soon enough they will become the very thing they fought against in the first place. The weaker Matari shall have to face what is coming to them.
Aodha,
Do not let a show of respect indicate weakness. Far from it, the people who attended had remarkable courage to be amongst our enemies, unarmed.
As far as this comment: "Soon enough they will become the very thing they fought against in the first place.", at least we don't live, sleep, eat and work with slavers. You, I fear do.
Sarkos
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.07.11 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 11/07/2005 15:18:36
Originally by: Aodha Khan
I'm not surprised your defending the Ushra'Khan now that they show 'respect' for your kind.
I'm not defending them. I'm attacking you.
I always thought that falling so far so fast would violate some sort of physical law. It seems that I was mistaken.
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.11 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sarkos
Aodha,
Do not let a show of respect indicate weakness. Far from it, the people who attended had remarkable courage to be amongst our enemies, unarmed.
As far as this comment: "Soon enough they will become the very thing they fought against in the first place.", at least we don't live, sleep, eat and work with slavers. You, I fear do.
Sarkos
I didn't fight for the Ushra'Khan to kill slavers and neither did many of my Paratwa brethren. Do I look like I'm taking an anti-slavery stance? As I said, the 'weak' shall get what is coming to them .. there are greater and more important battles to be won.
Ushra'Khan on the other hand sit preaching about anti-slavery day in, day out and then proceed to show the king of slavery some 'respect'. If you cannot see the weakness in such actions, well ........ your in chains yourself, you just cannot see them.
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.07.11 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Aodha Khan on 11/07/2005 15:33:55
Originally by: Rodj Blake
I'm not defending them. I'm attacking you.
Yes, of course you are. Wouldn't make sense to attack someone you just shared 'tea and cakes' with.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.07.11 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Aodha Khan
Edited by: Aodha Khan on 11/07/2005 15:34:09
Originally by: Rodj Blake
I'm not defending them. I'm attacking you.
Yes, of course you are. Wouldn't make sense to attack someone you just shared 'tea and cakes' with.
The only time that I would invite a U'K pilot to tea and cakes would be if they were waiters.
You've sunk so low that I wouldn't even give you the honour of serving at my table, though.
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