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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3638
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Posted - 2013.02.01 23:48:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:MailDeadDrop wrote:CCP karkur wrote:so you are saying the green thing I added is not on the correct character and the green arrows not on the correct wing/squad? No, sorry. James and I are talking about buggy behavior in the existing Tranquility client. The fleet window, in the window title, lists the wing and squad you're in. Unfortunately, the information displayed is often wrong, but I wasn't able to determine a rationale to the wrong-ness. MDD yeah sorry, I meant the green thing I added in Retribution... so you are saying just the title is wrong, or have you noticed something off about the green highlights and arrows? No, the green stuff is pretty much always right from what I can tell, but yes the window title is what's inaccurate. Normally this wouldn't be a problem but when combined with the window resetting when you try to scroll to find which squad you're in (which you say you've fixed, so that's awesome) it can be problematic.
The ID for the bug report I filed on this particular issue is 136623. Ignore the screenshot that's attached, I don't know how that got there but it's entirely unrelated to the problem. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption Quixotic Hegemony
57
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Posted - 2013.02.02 22:06:00 -
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Circumstantial Evidence wrote:Razul Ora'mac wrote:Will there be any way to regain control of the Fleet if the Fleet-Boss dc's and the AFK-Fleet Booster gets the Star? +2 Fleet boss disconnect, followed by semi-random new fleet boss assignment, is a major pain point. Please give us a way to designate a backup!
Stop using afk boosters then. This will also be fixed soon enough when boosts are forced to be on grid. |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
324
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:16:00 -
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Can you now do the jumpclone UI? Pretty please :) German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.02.03 12:24:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Here is my understanding of the moving rules, please let me now if you know better - a fleet commander or fleet owner can move anyone around in the fleet
- wing commander can move anyone around in their own wing
- a squad commander can demote him/herself to be a squad member (not sure that works right now though)
- with free move, anyone can move themselves to any squad in the fleet, but not make themselves fleet/wing commanders
With free move on anyone can take up squad / wing / fleet command positions that are vacant (tq behaviour). Also, right now I think only the fleet boss can move other people but I guess it makes sense for wing / fleet commanders to have that power too. |
Luxotor
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
11
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Posted - 2013.02.03 12:42:00 -
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A simple but warmly welcomed improvement in user interface design. THE NIGHT IS DARK AND FULL OF TERRORS! |
CHDestroyer
Full Contact Blinky Red Brotherhood
8
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Posted - 2013.02.03 14:18:00 -
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Well that sounds nice =)
But, by doing this can you please remove the "what-happen-if-double-click" from watchlist? Or give me a option to disable "double-klick-on-character"? Cause this "feature" is badly annoying as a Logisticspilot.
I'm not interested in Convos with my Fleetmates nor do i need to see their charinfo. If so, there are tons of other ways to do so.
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Desty FullContact Blog ft. Knallkapsel |
Mister Vee
Magellanic Itg Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.02.03 15:41:00 -
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Hi Karkur - thanks for this addition, it's definitely useful. While we're on the subject, here's a wishlist for the fleet window:
- Allow multiple people to be dragged to another position in fleet at the same time. Alternatively: add an option that allows the fc/boss to move everyone from wing a to wing b. This is especially useful when consolidating a fleet into a lesser number o fwings for bonuses
- It's currently not possible to move someone into membership of an empty squad, they become squad leaders automatically. This might be a lot of effort to fix for something this marginal, but hey
The following aren't really UI issues, but here it goes anyway:
- Please add the 'scout' option back to the fleet window. Members with scout role do not get fleet warped
- Add 'expand full wing' and 'expand full fleet' options to fleet menu, so avoid lots of unnecessary clicking. (Yes, I'm a Goon, we need lots of space in fleet ok.)
- Allow squads/wings or even full fleets to be restricted to specific shiptypes. This allows for customizable fleets where all the different shiptypes (dps, logistics, ewar) go into pre-setup squads where the correct boosters can easily be setup. This also ensures the fleet will have enough room for logistics, because several squads would be 'reserved' for them.
Ofcourse, as suggested already, saving these as (exportable) presets would be ideal.
I realize this is very complex and might not be necessary if a full fleet mechanic overhaul is being looked at/worked on. However, we can come a long way to this if:
- Ship type is shown in the fleet window (not just fleet composition). In combination with easy drag & drop fleet movement, we can quickly shuffle the fleet and respective boosters around to their correct setup. Perhaps their leadership skills could be shown, too.
Hopefully the above can be considered.
edit: restricting squads is probably really hard to do, with the current mechanic not registering people that are docked, also weird stuff would happen if people change shiptypes. Just show shiptypes in fleet window, pretty please with a cherry on top |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
324
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Posted - 2013.02.04 06:54:00 -
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just imagine the size of the right click menu if all that ^ would be implemented. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Cyprus Black
The Learning Curve.
651
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Posted - 2013.02.04 19:23:00 -
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Please remove the Quit Corp option from the fleet dropdown menu. Seriously, why is this even here? This has no relevance to fleet operations.
You might as well include a Biomass Character option in the fleet dropdown menu for all the sense it makes, which is none. Trolling is like art. Anyone can finger paint, but it takes true talent to create a masterpiece. |
Lazarus Telraven
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
41
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Posted - 2013.02.05 16:11:00 -
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Mister Vee wrote:Hi Karkur - thanks for this addition, it's definitely useful. While we're on the subject, here's a wishlist for the fleet window:
- Allow multiple people to be dragged to another position in fleet at the same time. Alternatively: add an option that allows the fc/boss to move everyone from wing a to wing b. This is especially useful when consolidating a fleet into a lesser number o fwings for bonuses
- It's currently not possible to move someone into membership of an empty squad, they become squad leaders automatically. This might be a lot of effort to fix for something this marginal, but hey
The following aren't really UI issues, but here it goes anyway:
- Please add the 'scout' option back to the fleet window. Members with scout role do not get fleet warped
- Add 'expand full wing' and 'expand full fleet' options to fleet menu, so avoid lots of unnecessary clicking. (Yes, I'm a Goon, we need lots of space in fleet ok.)
- Allow squads/wings or even full fleets to be restricted to specific shiptypes. This allows for customizable fleets where all the different shiptypes (dps, logistics, ewar) go into pre-setup squads where the correct boosters can easily be setup. This also ensures the fleet will have enough room for logistics, because several squads would be 'reserved' for them.
Ofcourse, as suggested already, saving these as (exportable) presets would be ideal.
I realize this is very complex and might not be necessary if a full fleet mechanic overhaul is being looked at/worked on. However, we can come a long way to this if:
- Ship type is shown in the fleet window (not just fleet composition). In combination with easy drag & drop fleet movement, we can quickly shuffle the fleet and respective boosters around to their correct setup. Perhaps their leadership skills could be shown, too.
Hopefully the above can be considered.
edit: restricting squads is probably really hard to do, with the current mechanic not registering people that are docked, also weird stuff would happen if people change shiptypes. Just show shiptypes in fleet window, pretty please with a cherry on top
The drag and drop option is awesome and I agree with Vee's Wishlist but would like to add that you have to jump through hoops to get assigned fleet boosters to work IE: My character is in the Fleet Command Posistion but I remove the fleet boost from myself and assign fleet boost to another character, once this is done all that happens is the little spinny loading circle just spins and never applies fleet boost.
And can you please move the "Leave Fleet" button away from the "Add Wing" button when you right click Fleet Command position (i may or may not have left fleet trying to expand it a few times)
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Bagehi
Kaesong Kosmonauts Test Alliance Please Ignore
145
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Posted - 2013.02.06 16:08:00 -
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It would be really nice if you could set restrictions for fleets.
Like Vee said, set a wing/squad to only allow a certain ship type.
It would also be nice to be able to limit command slots to only allow people with the skills to fill the role (I'm in Test, we're bad at Eve).
The scout setting would be nice. Also nice would be the ability for a fc/wc to warp individual wings/squads without having to bounce around command slots (something very common with bombing groups).
A way, with a single click, to find yourself in the fleet window.
One last dream feature would be the ability to (with a click or two) identify (maybe highlight them red in the fleet window) who is in system/undocked and who isn't. |
AnSky
BALKAN EXPRESS
0
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Posted - 2013.02.06 17:02:00 -
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Realy nice.. but...
Is there any possible remote chance that wing commander will finaly, after many years get the fleet commander bonuses??
Actually it is thing that is most iritaring, but looks like its not getting enought attention, maybe because ppla dont actually notice it.. for example: NOT having skirmish bonuses on damnation that is on grid is BAD!! ... or any other bonus distribution on fleet/wing commander positions..
Workaround with putting someone with wing command skill on wing commander position and actual wing booster inside squad and then assigning wing bonus is complicated and unfair to the guy who has to have skills but dont get fc bonus...
Is that really such a problem to fix??
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Allandri
Liandri Industrial Liandri Covenant
32
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Posted - 2013.02.06 17:40:00 -
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CCP wants to do less with fleets, not more |
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