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Ante
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Posted - 2005.07.12 12:40:00 -
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I haven't played with offlining mwds in a while, but couldn't you just use the mwd for a burst over to your target and then offline it? That way you're getting the speed, not taking a cap hit for long and the 'kick me' sign on your back isn't there for long.
You'd have to do this carefully of course because you might still need to hop on over to another target after the first one is kaput.
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Alex Harumichi
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Posted - 2005.07.12 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Firearrow91 I really like the look of these ships and I am thinking of training for an Ishkur. Are these any good? or should I go for an Enyo?
I think the Enyo is the better ship overall, but with some out-of-the box thinking I think the Ishkur can be evil. I've flown and like both, though to be honest I haven't found an Ishkur setup I'm totally happy with yet.
About MWDs: generally I subscribe to the "no MWDs on AF" opinion, but they can be useful now and then. Never discount the surprise factor, everyone expects AFs to not have an MWD (like they expect all inties to have an MWD). In both cases, expectations can get you killed . In addition, if you're flying a blaster AF in pvp (risky), an MWD can make sense in a "no guts, no glory" kind of way. So don't dismiss it out of hand, play around and test things out.
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Pagefault
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Posted - 2005.07.12 13:06:00 -
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Your Scourge Heavy Missile hits Baddy, doing 12.3 damage
Originally by: Baddy enyo+MWD=4tw
Your Scourge Heavy Missile hits Baddy, doing 234.1 damage....
I hope u tank the 1200 dmg, that the first 5 missiles will do, now you got 5.4 seconds to repair them

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Antic
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Posted - 2005.07.12 13:49:00 -
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harpy or hawk? :/ Thats the question :P
whats the pro conns of em?
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.12 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Arcas Kett Each to there own, i personally swear by them. Anyone tried fitting an enyo to be as fast as a ceptor?
o mi the fun you have :) you can feel the shock of the ceptor pilot ha!
Gist mwd and nano's 4tw! 
If by "as fast as an inteceptor" you mean "as fast as a taranis somehow fitting 3 plates," then ok. Enyos are crazy slow, even with mwd and 4 nanos I doubt you could hit 3km/sec, and then you have no tank and any inty would just kill you. jagerbomb part 2 now out |

Arcas Kett
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Posted - 2005.07.12 14:27:00 -
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no way would an untanked inty beat an untank AF. I dont tank my enyo neither add to its dmg - only time ive ever lost it was to 2 ranis nos'ing my cap to hell.
ive over 60 inty kills with my lush enyo setup.
You can get it damned fast with gist mwd and lvl 5 nav skills Acceleration control etc
Most inty's dont carry a tank other than your claw. And i feel confident when i get the harpy id take your purty claw down 
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2005.07.12 14:57:00 -
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I own and fly them all...
Ishkur is one fun ship... the drone are the best.. Get AF Skill to 4 or 5 and you will see what I mean.
Enyo is fun and tanks great...
Retriubtion is the mini Geddon...Great Boat...just the single Mid can be pain in the "bleep".....
Vengence has the power of triple mids...
Hawk is the mad shield tanker and has the advantage of changing damage types with ease..
Harpy just lays down focued fire with much pain on your opponent...
Wolf..is the one volley (or so) ganka ceptor boat...
Jaguar is the support version of the Wolf...little less bang under the hood...
Have fun... AF's are great 
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.07.12 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Hamatitio I think a gistii harpy would own your jagerbomber!
ATM im getting a taranis and making my own, doubt it will fit tho.
Hes killed a couple of those gisti harpies
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.12 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: benwallace
Originally by: Hamatitio I think a gistii harpy would own your jagerbomber!
ATM im getting a taranis and making my own, doubt it will fit tho.
Hes killed a couple of those gisti harpies
No I haven't ****. jagerbomb part 2 now out |

Sorja
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Posted - 2005.07.12 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Antic harpy or hawk? :/ Thats the question :P
whats the pro conns of em?
The Harpy is the heavy instant hitter... provided your target doesn't get under your guns or MWDs outside of web range. The Harpy has an incredible range, so it's probably the best AF for fleet battles where you have to take out interceptors and where transversal velocity won't mean much since guns always hit at range. It's also the best choice for missions when assisting BSs if you like grouping for missions.
The Hawk is the best choice against MWDing interceptors because, even if your guns can't hit, the missiles will hit for decent damage and since the Hawk doesn't have that silly kinetic bonus it is safe to load a launcher with EM and the other with explo and only switch one ammo if appropriate.
Before patch, I could take a Harpy or Enyo on with my Hawk provided they didn't have MWD (which was a very good option for frigate warfare) or Gistii shield booster. Now, I don't think a Hawk can take assault frigates on anymore since the light missiles will do a fraction of the damage of guns.
Testings and fittings wellcome.
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