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Brandon Syne
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2013.02.02 14:16:00 -
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enterprisePSI wrote:Having the page file on the SSD, reduces the life span of the SSD.
I bought a new SSD a month ago and immediately put my pagefile on it. It has now expended 0.6% of it's theoretical lifetime. So this is hardly a big deal. |

Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
46
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Posted - 2013.02.02 14:19:00 -
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Hmm, with that many ships you could create art.
Get them all mining and then position them so the beams create a laser show, or artwork. |

Rain6637
Team Evil
433
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Posted - 2013.02.02 14:20:00 -
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Brandon Syne
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2013.02.02 14:20:00 -
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The Wis wrote: Well for laying out the windows isboxer has no option that I have found for a 17th window. But you can use more then one computer and have 16 per computer. So that will work.
Really? Is this a hard limit or can you increase that number by having more screen resolution? This will throw a massive spanner in my works if it is true :/ |

NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
314
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Posted - 2013.02.02 14:30:00 -
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Brandon Syne wrote:The Wis wrote: Well for laying out the windows isboxer has no option that I have found for a 17th window. But you can use more then one computer and have 16 per computer. So that will work.
Really? Is this a hard limit or can you increase that number by having more screen resolution? This will throw a massive spanner in my works if it is true :/ If you stretch the desktop between screens then you have sufficient real estate. Though why not alt tab between them?
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The Wis
Fise Corp War and Pestilence
110
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Posted - 2013.02.02 15:40:00 -
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flakeys wrote:What i would like to know seeing that , do you have a job ?
Yes I do have a job. I work for my self. And the work is usally slow. I own my home and land and do not need much to make ends meet.
I spend allot of time at home waiting for work orders to come in and will take off to do the work when it does come in.
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The Wis
Fise Corp War and Pestilence
110
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Posted - 2013.02.02 15:44:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:I'm going to speak, uninformed, here since I didn't read the entire thread. So, I apologize before hand if I am wrong.
There is no way you'll convince me you're not replicating your keyboard/mouse clicks which is or at least was against the EULA/TOS. Not that I really care. I'm just saying.
Also, you're all that is wrong with the Eve universe. Good day, Sir!
Well if you look at ice mining and the way I do it there is no need to replicate the keyboard and mouse clicks. Even if I did replicate them it is not agenst the EULA/TOS since they allow isboxer witch does that it self. Once you have a steady pattern down it is very easy to handle allot of clients and you do not have to handle them all at once. If I did replicate all keyboard and mouse you would see all my guys undock at the exact same time and not one by one like they did in the video. I do use the fleet warp command to move them sometimes.
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The Wis
Fise Corp War and Pestilence
110
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Posted - 2013.02.02 15:49:00 -
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Brandon Syne wrote:enterprisePSI wrote:Having the page file on the SSD, reduces the life span of the SSD.
I bought a new SSD a month ago and immediately put my pagefile on it. It has now expended 0.6% of it's theoretical lifetime. So this is hardly a big deal.
\Well I buy cheap referbish SSD drives small ones and put the whole OS on them. When they go bad there are tricks to recovering them and getting them to work again. Every night I do a full backup and since the SSD drives are so fast if one crashs I can have the system back up in about 30 min and back to playing.
Of course Computers and networking is my field so I am very use to this.
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The Wis
Fise Corp War and Pestilence
110
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Posted - 2013.02.02 15:52:00 -
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Hir Miriel wrote:Hmm, with that many ships you could create art.
Get them all mining and then position them so the beams create a laser show, or artwork.
I have been trying to work on that. I keep trying to think what would be cool. Would like to be able to do like a laser light show to the music.
But for 1 man that is very hard to jump around to different clients to switch lasters etc.
I myself have never been much of an artist I am more computers networking and math person.
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Jason Xado
Xado Industries
49
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Posted - 2013.02.02 15:57:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:I'm going to speak, uninformed, here since I didn't read the entire thread. So, I apologize before hand if I am wrong.
There is no way you'll convince me you're not replicating your keyboard/mouse clicks which is or at least was against the EULA/TOS. Not that I really care. I'm just saying.
Also, you're all that is wrong with the Eve universe. Good day, Sir!
Replicating mouse and key strokes to multiple clients is not against the rules. Please see the relavant information here:
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1291641&page=10#274
Quote: Hello there,
To make a long story short, automation of gameplay is not permitted; players must be manually issuing the commands to control their character(s) at all times.
Our stance on programs such as Synergy and hardware/software combination such as the G15 keyboard is that they can be legitimately used as long as gameplay isn't automated. Synergy allows you to move your mouse cursor to multiple different monitors which are hooked up to different computers and we do not have any qualms with players using the program for this purpose. If Synergy was used in some way to control your accounts for you without a need for you to be at your keyboard, then that would not be allowed, but I am not aware of such a functionality with this program. If Synergy is used in conjunction with some other program to automate gameplay, it would not be permitted. G15 "macros" which allow you to group different commands into one keypress are allowed. For example, setting your G1 key to press F1, F2, F3 and so on for you with one key press is allowed (although this specific command is not as useful as it was before now that we have weapon grouping).
An exceedingly complex G15 macro which would effectively automate gameplay, such as mining, without a need for the player to be present at his keyboard would be against the EULA, regardless of whether the player utilizing said macro is sitting at his keyboard at the time!
Lastly, multiboxing is allowed, and programs designed for multiboxing in mind which allow a player to manually issue the same command to multiple game clients at the same time are allowed. In the same vein as what has been stated above, the player must be manually sending the commands; if a program is automating those commands for you, then it would be considered a breach of our EULA.
I hope this clears up this matter.
Best regards, Senior GM Lelouch EVE Online Customer Support
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The Wis
Fise Corp War and Pestilence
110
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Posted - 2013.02.02 15:59:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Brandon Syne wrote:The Wis wrote: Well for laying out the windows isboxer has no option that I have found for a 17th window. But you can use more then one computer and have 16 per computer. So that will work.
Really? Is this a hard limit or can you increase that number by having more screen resolution? This will throw a massive spanner in my works if it is true :/ If you stretch the desktop between screens then you have sufficient real estate. Though why not alt tab between them?
Well I have plently of real estate. All seems to go find till I add the 17th account. For some reason isboxer will not allow me to add a 17th window to the layout. Under the Windows layout option where you select the clients home region it will only go up to 16.
Alt tab between clients works find for a few but when you have a lot of clients then it is Alt TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB getting a little hard. So I just do not stack my eve clients on the tool mark. So there is a line accrouse the bottom of my screen for all the clients. I stick with 25 per computer becouse they are on 22" wide screen monitors and when I get over 25 clients then my tool back becomes 2 rows with is a little harder for the last few clients.
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Jason Xado
Xado Industries
49
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:06:00 -
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The Wis wrote:NEONOVUS wrote:Brandon Syne wrote:The Wis wrote: Well for laying out the windows isboxer has no option that I have found for a 17th window. But you can use more then one computer and have 16 per computer. So that will work.
Really? Is this a hard limit or can you increase that number by having more screen resolution? This will throw a massive spanner in my works if it is true :/ If you stretch the desktop between screens then you have sufficient real estate. Though why not alt tab between them? Well I have plently of real estate. All seems to go find till I add the 17th account. For some reason isboxer will not allow me to add a 17th window to the layout. Under the Windows layout option where you select the clients home region it will only go up to 16. Alt tab between clients works find for a few but when you have a lot of clients then it is Alt TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB getting a little hard. So I just do not stack my eve clients on the tool mark. So there is a line accrouse the bottom of my screen for all the clients. I stick with 25 per computer becouse they are on 22" wide screen monitors and when I get over 25 clients then my tool back becomes 2 rows with is a little harder for the last few clients.
I did a bit a research last night and was able to add 30+ slots to a character set and then by clicking "replicate region" I was able to add a region to each slot. I don't have the actual accounts to test it but seems like it will work. I'm probobly going to up to 24 accounts pretty soon so we will see.
I don't hop from screen to screen much. I use Video FX to place everything I need on just a few screens so I don't have to hop around much. IS Boxer makes everything work really well, once I was able to figure out how to set everything up.
Anyway I hope I can go beyond 16, will find out soon enough.
You sir are an inspiration! |

NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
314
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:14:00 -
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The Wis wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:I'm going to speak, uninformed, here since I didn't read the entire thread. So, I apologize before hand if I am wrong.
There is no way you'll convince me you're not replicating your keyboard/mouse clicks which is or at least was against the EULA/TOS. Not that I really care. I'm just saying.
Also, you're all that is wrong with the Eve universe. Good day, Sir! Well if you look at ice mining and the way I do it there is no need to replicate the keyboard and mouse clicks. Even if I did replicate them it is not agenst the EULA/TOS since they allow isboxer witch does that it self. Once you have a steady pattern down it is very easy to handle allot of clients and you do not have to handle them all at once. If I did replicate all keyboard and mouse you would see all my guys undock at the exact same time and not one by one like they did in the video. I do use the fleet warp command to move them sometimes. Didnt I try to wage war on you under the command of Erotica1 once?
Also you do know you can use the mouse in alt tab and it will show what you are going to select, right? |

The Wis
Fise Corp War and Pestilence
110
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:23:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:The Wis wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:I'm going to speak, uninformed, here since I didn't read the entire thread. So, I apologize before hand if I am wrong.
There is no way you'll convince me you're not replicating your keyboard/mouse clicks which is or at least was against the EULA/TOS. Not that I really care. I'm just saying.
Also, you're all that is wrong with the Eve universe. Good day, Sir! Well if you look at ice mining and the way I do it there is no need to replicate the keyboard and mouse clicks. Even if I did replicate them it is not agenst the EULA/TOS since they allow isboxer witch does that it self. Once you have a steady pattern down it is very easy to handle allot of clients and you do not have to handle them all at once. If I did replicate all keyboard and mouse you would see all my guys undock at the exact same time and not one by one like they did in the video. I do use the fleet warp command to move them sometimes. Didnt I try to wage war on you under the command of Erotica1 once? Also you do know you can use the mouse in alt tab and it will show what you are going to select, right?
Yes I know I can use the mouse. Just with them accross the bottom of the screen I find it allot faster for me. Most of the time I click on each and every one so they are all stacked.. Then do I what I need on top one then minize and repeat. With all the windows laid out the same I can keep mouse over 1 spot and I do not have to move very much at all.
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T'Laar Bok
60
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:13:00 -
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The Wis wrote:The best tip is to use and SSD drive..
SSD Drives cant properly be erased (no I'm not taking the normal delete function).
Unit the method is perfected The Man isn't going to get my secrets  Amphetimines are your friend.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/T'Laar_Bok |

Argentaria
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:15:00 -
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As a 5, soon to be a 7 boxer...I am suitably impressed. I prefer isboxer, as I can see and hot swap as needed. I mine on all 5 or break it up to mine on 3/4 and mission on one 1/2. When I hit 7, I'll keep my mine fleet and mission fleets open same time.
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Rain6637
Team Evil
433
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:31:00 -
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2175
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:42:00 -
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You were talking about this the last time I spoke to you. As long as you're having fun, it's all good. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6549
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:48:00 -
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T'Laar Bok wrote:SSD Drives cant properly be erased (no I'm not taking the normal delete function). Unit the method is perfected The Man isn't going to get my secrets 
physical disintegration is the method ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Brandon Syne
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:53:00 -
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Is it true that buying a 1 year isboxer license actually gives you a license to use the software on up to 5 computers? |

The Wis
Fise Corp War and Pestilence
110
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Posted - 2013.02.02 18:11:00 -
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Brandon Syne wrote:Is it true that buying a 1 year isboxer license actually gives you a license to use the software on up to 5 computers?
I am not sure if there is a limit to the number of computers you can use it on. I have use it on all 6 computers with no problem.
But for me since most of my mining computers are not very good gaming computers I do not use it to mine. That way I can run more clients per PC.
They are just old e-machines.
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Inspiration
Focused Radical Energy Engineering
49
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Posted - 2013.02.02 19:10:00 -
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Dont get connection issues....that would be brutally horrible! |

The Wis
Fise Corp War and Pestilence
110
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Posted - 2013.02.02 19:29:00 -
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Inspiration wrote:Dont get connection issues....that would be brutally horrible!
Every now and then. Maybe once a month when there is a bad storm then I might lose connection with 1/4 to 1/2 the clients. Or when CCP has a problem with one of there servers or something.
Or when one of my cats unplugs my network switch. |

Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
89
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:54:00 -
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T'Laar Bok wrote:The Wis wrote:The best tip is to use and SSD drive.. SSD Drives cant properly be erased (no I'm not taking the normal delete function). Unit the method is perfected The Man isn't going to get my secrets 
Encrypt the entire drive. When you want it wiped, delete the encryption key and then secure erase to make sure the KSA is unrecoverable.
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To repeat, the skill split is scheduled for the big Summer 2013 expansion. ~CCP Fozzie |

Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
78
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Posted - 2013.02.02 23:32:00 -
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The Wis wrote:Gogela wrote:I can't believe this is allowed  ..... Why would it not be allowed. Look at what CCP makes. Plex's are not seeded in the game someone had to pay real money for them. So CCP makes about $20,000 a year off me alone. Why would they not allow that?
You know that much money spent on entertainment should entail prostitues and blow. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

The Wis
Fise Corp War and Pestilence
110
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Posted - 2013.02.02 23:48:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:The Wis wrote:Gogela wrote:I can't believe this is allowed  ..... Why would it not be allowed. Look at what CCP makes. Plex's are not seeded in the game someone had to pay real money for them. So CCP makes about $20,000 a year off me alone. Why would they not allow that? You know that much money spent on entertainment should entail prostitues and blow.
Hmmm.. Show me a prostitute that takes isks. and I do not mean the ones in game :)
Still trying to get my power company to take isks. So far my psychiatrist takes isks next the power company.
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Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
78
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Posted - 2013.02.02 23:55:00 -
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The Wis wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:The Wis wrote:Gogela wrote:I can't believe this is allowed  ..... Why would it not be allowed. Look at what CCP makes. Plex's are not seeded in the game someone had to pay real money for them. So CCP makes about $20,000 a year off me alone. Why would they not allow that? You know that much money spent on entertainment should entail prostitues and blow. Hmmm.. Show me a prostitute that takes isks. and I do not mean the ones in game :) Still trying to get my power company to take isks. So far my psychiatrist takes isks next the power company.
http://www.endlessgibberish.com/woman-trades-sex-for-5000-gold-on-wow/
One can only hope.... "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

Nex Killer
Steel Nexus
6
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:10:00 -
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Don't want to read the full thread but that was cool. Op do you use ISBoxer at all or do you do it all by hand? And if you don't use ISBoxer why not? |

RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2566
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:26:00 -
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See, that's WoW. Everyone knows there aren't any girls that play EVE. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

The Wis
Fise Corp War and Pestilence
110
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:31:00 -
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Nex Killer wrote:Don't want to read the full thread but that was cool. Op do you use ISBoxer at all or do you do it all by hand? And if you don't use ISBoxer why not?
I do use isboxer some but not for mining. I can run more clients with out isboxer. But when Pve or PVP I use isboxer.
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