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Sovereign Solette
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:19:00 -
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I have tried scanning and its just fighting the User Interface, I'm sure this was not the intended aim of scanning! I did have 1 success, netted 12 million, but afterwards, its like after I narrow down a red target zone, it disappears!!! It goes on like this ad infinitum, increase scan area, narrow, increase scan area, narrow................
How. Annoying. Trying to align my probes for 30 minutes to an hour. I did see that youtube video also on how to align your probes so I know how it works etc and I have been patient but it just doesn't WORK!!!
The cliche part - whoever designed this scanning stuff.......well you know the rest LOL
/end rant
I doubt there can be any tips as to how to do it best??? |
Sovereign Solette
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:20:00 -
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Do SOMETHING to fix it. I mean, turn it 2D or make it into a fun minigame like those Mass Effect 2 mini puzzles but more appropriate, I don't know......... |
Soft Insanity
Strange Energy
Gentlemen's Agreement
3
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:23:00 -
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The first question is what are you skills at and are you using 4 probes in a plus sign to do scanning? |
Steven Koskanaiken
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
28
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:24:00 -
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Sovereign Solette wrote:Do SOMETHING to fix it. I mean, turn it 2D or make it into a fun minigame like those Mass Effect 2 mini puzzles but more appropriate, I don't know.........
Ooh another whine thread about scanning.
Yes, it needs work.
No, it can't be 2D. You do know that EVE is happening in a 3D enviroment, so good luck putting something in it that isn't.
Yeah, let's make it into a minigame like one of those things in the most crappy and borderline boring to death singleplayer games. |
Leetha Layne
70
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:27:00 -
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It works fine go away.
YOU can't figure it out so it's broken??? |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
147
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:28:00 -
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Check your filters, make sure that you haven't got the scanner set to not show any specific sig types. |
Sovereign Solette
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:39:00 -
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Leetha Layne wrote:It works fine go away.
YOU can't figure it out so it's broken???
I can be patient with games but if its frustrating, its frustrating - end of story.
I am actually aligning the probes in a plus sign using 5 probes. I think I am getting the hang of it or it could just be chance. Basically align top down first and then align from the vertical axis etc etc.
My skills:
archaeology at level 3
astrometric acquision at level 2
astro rangefinding at level2
astrometrics at level 3
science at level 4
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Sovereign Solette
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:42:00 -
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The interface improvements I am thinking of is the way homeworld series games lets you align things in 3D space, you remember???? |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
147
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:43:00 -
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If you're intending to explore seriously (which I wouldn't recommend if you hate scanning), get astrometrics to 4 mininum and the other 3 (astrometric acquisition, astrometric pinpointing and astrometric rangefinding) to 3 minimum.
Scanning's mostly about practice and player skills. I know people who can scan an entire system down (multiple sigs) in a couple minutes |
Scaramanga Erquilenne
49
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:49:00 -
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I must admit i found it very frustrating as well the 3D map was a nightmare to align and focus in on . I decided to improve my scanning skills and eqp and come back to it at a later date
You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist-á |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
422
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:54:00 -
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Scanning Tutorial
Scanning works just fine. You should expect a big learning curve, this is EvE Online.
If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Sovereign Solette
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:56:00 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:If you're intending to explore seriously (which I wouldn't recommend if you hate scanning), get astrometrics to 4 mininum and the other 3 (astrometric acquisition, astrometric pinpointing and astrometric rangefinding) to 3 minimum.
Scanning's mostly about practice and player skills. I know people who can scan an entire system down (multiple sigs) in a couple minutes
Quote:I must admit i found it very frustrating as well the 3D map was a nightmare to align and focus in on . I decided to improve my scanning skills and eqp and come back to it at a later date
After looking at these skills, I think you are right. I will come back in a week or two when I have the necessary skills!!! |
Lyrah Okkus
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.02.02 22:11:00 -
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Astrometrics pinpointing skill takes this annoyance out. just straight out. Also, err on the side of having too much overlap rather than not enough. I had the best results when all my probes could see each other. |
Oz Yael
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.02.02 22:13:00 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:If you're intending to explore seriously (which I wouldn't recommend if you hate scanning), get astrometrics to 4 mininum and the other 3 (astrometric acquisition, astrometric pinpointing and astrometric rangefinding) to 3 minimum.
Scanning's mostly about practice and player skills. I know people who can scan an entire system down (multiple sigs) in a couple minutes
Who? I would like to see a video of this!
Impossible. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
147
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Posted - 2013.02.02 22:15:00 -
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Just in case you missed this earlier
Quote:Check your filters, make sure that you haven't got the scanner set to not show any specific sig types.
I've lost count how many cases I've seen (exploration channel, rookie help, here) where someone fiddled with the filters then wonders why sites are filtered out.
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Oz Yael
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.02.02 22:15:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Scanning TutorialScanning works just fine. You should expect a big learning curve, this is EvE Online.
The "curve" he is talking about is like this ---> | |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
422
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Posted - 2013.02.02 22:17:00 -
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Oz Yael wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Scanning TutorialScanning works just fine. You should expect a big learning curve, this is EvE Online. The "curve" he is talking about is like this ---> |
EvE Online learning curve
If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Oz Yael
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.02.02 22:20:00 -
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Sovereign Solette wrote:Leetha Layne wrote:It works fine go away.
YOU can't figure it out so it's broken??? I can be patient with games but if its frustrating, its frustrating - end of story. I am actually aligning the probes in a plus sign using 5 probes. I think I am getting the hang of it or it could just be chance. Basically align top down first and then align from the vertical axis etc etc. My skills: archaeology at level 3 astrometric acquision at level 2 astro rangefinding at level2 astrometrics at level 3 science at level 4
Yea if you go back a month You will see my post On the same thing regarding exploration it's really frustrating in the beginning. What you need to do is you definitely need to put astronomic's to 4 and the rest to 3 that's can help you out on my also make sure using a right ship with bonuses and do some SOE missions to get loyalty to buy a sisters launcher. |
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
51
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Posted - 2013.02.02 22:31:00 -
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Definitely get your skills to 3 or 4 asap. Also, get into an Imicus or a CovOps frigate. Both have nice scanning bonuses. And throw in some gravity probe rigs to boost your scanning strength even more. There's also implants that improve all three scanning skills, and a Sisters core probe launcher with sister probes adds even more. You can check your scanning strength by opening the fitting window and click the "Charge Info" button that pops out when you hover over the probe launcher.
And check your filters. Signatures that are filtered out will still show up until you get a good enough signal to tell what it is.
Edit: If in doubt, set it to "show all". |
Ovv Topik
Proposition Thirteen
The Third Rail
258
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Posted - 2013.02.02 23:49:00 -
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Stick with it bro.
Eve is a game of infinite complexity and bottomless depth.
If scanning was easy and you could master it in 5 minutes, you'd be bored of it in 10!
Nothing worthwhile is ever easy!
Which is why Eve is the only MMO to be still growing on the scale it is after 10 years.
ti'n siarad Cymraeg? |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
7325
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:10:00 -
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This doesn't sound like scanning... the on-board scanner has no red dots 
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
143
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Posted - 2013.02.03 01:15:00 -
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Your filters are screwed up and you haven't learned the quick keys yet. I refuse to post instructions here because they are all over the internet already. Don't whine, learn.
...and yes it should only take minutes to mark out a system. |
Orlacc
198
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Posted - 2013.02.03 02:01:00 -
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Dang this is too hard so it am busted. I want 2D scanning and no more big wurds lahk trasvursle... |
Hot Cell
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.02.03 03:23:00 -
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I highly recommend using 7 probes.
Use 5 probes in a plus (+) sign, with 1 probe in the center. Then launch 1 probe to go up (z-axis) and 1 probe to go down. This means you're covering the plus sign, as well as the 3D areas.
Remember to use alt and shift key. I find these 2 buttons make life SIMPLE. |
Sovereign Solette
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.02.03 13:40:00 -
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Thanks people! I am gonna skill up and use 7 probes - sounds good! |
Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
365
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Posted - 2013.02.03 18:35:00 -
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Sovereign Solette wrote:Do SOMETHING to fix it. I mean, turn it 2D or make it into a fun minigame like those Mass Effect 2 mini puzzles but more appropriate, I don't know.........
Mate, you do something to fix it. Thousands of people use it fine, you just aren't very good at it yet. Get back on your bike and learn to ride, then you can discuss the mechanics of bicycle design.
EDIT : I have basic scan skills and use 6 probes. I have never been unable to scan down a sig since learning how so i know its not so skill intensive as some make out.
If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if 'm online.
BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
Orlacc
198
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Posted - 2013.02.03 18:41:00 -
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Sovereign Solette wrote:Thanks people! I am gonna skill up and use 7 probes - sounds good!
Now that's the attitude! Once you "get it" you will have a blast!
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Jonah Gravenstein
The Burning Lotus
5326
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Posted - 2013.02.03 19:12:00 -
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Oz Yael wrote:Elena Thiesant wrote:If you're intending to explore seriously (which I wouldn't recommend if you hate scanning), get astrometrics to 4 mininum and the other 3 (astrometric acquisition, astrometric pinpointing and astrometric rangefinding) to 3 minimum.
Scanning's mostly about practice and player skills. I know people who can scan an entire system down (multiple sigs) in a couple minutes Who? I would like to see a video of this! Impossible.
Ask anyone that's lived in a wormhole, it's entirely possible to scan an entire solar system in a matter of minutes. You'll find that scanning takes a combination of both real world and virtual skills, and practice is an important part of gaining the real world skills.
Knowledge and research are your friends, there's multiple websites out there that provide information on the shortcuts to determining the signature type via their initial strength. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Base_Signature_Strength is a good place to start.
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's a goonspiracy. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
2148
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Posted - 2013.02.03 19:15:00 -
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Btw magically disappearing signatures means it's VERY HIGHLY LIKELY that you set a scan filter. The filter doesn't know what to filter out until you've narrowed it below about 40-50% and you actually know the sig type.
Thus if you have a filter to only show Radar and Mag sites any Grav, Ladar, or Unknown sigs will disappear once you reach that threshold.
The Drake is a Lie |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
390
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Posted - 2013.02.03 21:09:00 -
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Normally I would lock this for ranting, but you're getting some good help and responses despite that, so I'll leave it open as long as it stays that way, and only do some light editing of OP.
Some extra tips to make the UI work for you:
- Hold Shift and drag one probe to move all probes at once, keeping their "formation" intact.
- Hold Shift and drag the scan radius of one probe to scale the scan radii of all probes at once.
- Hold Alt and drag one probe to scale the position of all probes around their central point.
Using these three shortcuts, you can easily progressively narrow down single signatures.
Ed: Make sure your scan filters are also set up correctly. By default, everything is shown while it is an "unknown" signature. The filters only get applied when you narrow it down enough to put a type to it. If that type is not within your filters, the signature will just "disappear" when you narrow it down.
ISD LackOfFaith
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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