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Unrah
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Posted - 2005.07.13 09:32:00 -
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Techell proudly presents the new Capital Ship Department.
We are produceing all aviable Freighter types:
Caldari: Charon
Gallente: Obelisk
Amarr: Providence
Minmatar Fenrir
Currently our engineers are already busy with building the first Charon, which will leave our factory at Sa,23.7 at 18:00 EVE Time. 
Production plan:
Charon: 23.7
Obelisk: 26.7
Providence: 30.7
Fenrir : early next month (no exact date yet)
Fix prices will come soon, but the first freighters will go to the rich and unpatient customers. 
Are you interested in getting a freighter and want to be one of the first to pilot one?
Catch me ingame or send me your offer, all except the Charon (already sold) are still aviable.
Minimum price for this first production line is 1.8 bil! (Charron for example is promised for 2 bil)
For all those who will cry out loud about the price some hard facts:
-Techell invested 18 bil in Freighter BPO`s and Capital Parts
-nearly no research done yet to compete in the first
freighter race
-You need 85 to 105 cargo bays for one freighter, and one cargo bay takes 3,5 hours to produce + the freighter itself takes around 12 days until finished
-Huge logistical work: We currently have 15 factory slots working 24 hours a day only for the freighter department, which consume over 50 mil of trit and 10 mil of pyer per day (+ all other mineral types too)
-at this stage of research, production cost is nearly 1 bil (note that we produce all capital parts ourself)
All freighters will be aviable and handed out at Algogille XIII Fed Navy Station (delivery to safe space is only possible for the Obelisk, thats the one i can fly, and to be honest i would LOVE to deliver that one)
So grab your chance and contact me if you want one of those beauties!
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Safronique
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Posted - 2005.07.13 09:53:00 -
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To be perfectly honest with you I would say that the price is fair for the present time to reflect on demand and the tremendous amount of time and effort being put into the production of just 1 ship.
The amount made on the sale won't go too fair sitting in the wallets of all the people involved.
So if you can sell it for that, then go for it. I would say its a fair price 
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.07.13 09:58:00 -
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Techell back? 
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THCS
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Posted - 2005.07.13 10:23:00 -
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 Originally by: The Enslaver
Techell back?
Thats what I thought also, congratz to them.
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Fabiusbile
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Posted - 2005.07.13 10:33:00 -
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would you sell copys of the bp's and how much?
i.e.
1 run amarr freighter
x run cargo (the exact amount needed to build)
x run propulsion
x run armour
x run parts
would save your mins and still make sone cash out of it.
(only looking for info atm)
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fabiusbile
Director of R&D
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Vivus Mors
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Posted - 2005.07.13 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Fabiusbile
would you sell copys of the bp's and how much?
i.e.
1 run amarr freighter
x run cargo (the exact amount needed to build)
x run propulsion
x run armour
x run parts
would save your mins and still make sone cash out of it.
(only looking for info atm)
while I can't speak for them of course, I can tell you that the BPO copy time is "painful" to say the least on the Capital level craft and IIRC the components as well. Also the component copies don't get many runs so you would need many of them for all you needed to make and that would compound the copy time problem.
I think that the devs should really look at the capital ship component BPO's and possibly allow for more runs to be put into a BPC (not a whole lot, just some more) so that while it would be a long copy time still, it wouldn't be completely overwhelming to the possibility of seeing BPC's for the components even if not very common.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.07.13 10:52:00 -
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The Interstellar Starbase Syndicate requires an Obelisk for our POS fuel hauls. I'll see if we can work something out. 1.8bil sounds like a lot and knowing the costs it is still a bit of a stretch. I'll see what ISS can come up with between now and then.
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Chippie MS
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Posted - 2005.07.13 10:55:00 -
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Or maybe... possibly PE research may actually be worth something. Other than that put in advanced RnD Skills. We have advanced of most other skills so i can see it being years away that we get advanced building and research skills.
And yes 1.8b is a fair price for these considering the time effort and sheer mind numbing tedium that it takes to build one..... oh and then it will prolly get ****ted about 30 seconds out of a factory just to really make you want to kill yourself
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DeODokktor
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Posted - 2005.07.13 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Chippie MS
Or maybe... possibly PE research may actually be worth something. Other than that put in advanced RnD Skills. We have advanced of most other skills so i can see it being years away that we get advanced building and research skills.
And yes 1.8b is a fair price for these considering the time effort and sheer mind numbing tedium that it takes to build one..... oh and then it will prolly get ****ted about 30 seconds out of a factory just to really make you want to kill yourself
Free Bump for a big producer :)
And PE research is worth while now...
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Larno
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Posted - 2005.07.13 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Fabiusbile
would you sell copys of the bp's and how much?
i.e.
1 run amarr freighter
x run cargo (the exact amount needed to build)
x run propulsion
x run armour
x run parts
would save your mins and still make sone cash out of it.
(only looking for info atm)
Takes 6? weeks to make 1-run copy of the freighter BP. In that time you could make 5-6 actual freighters at a profit of around 800mil-1bil each. So to finance a 1-run copy it would need to be sold for at least 5bil to make it worth the time copying it... cheaper to buy the actual BPO.
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2005.07.13 11:14:00 -
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or to answer the question no one is ever going to bother copying their bpo.
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Fabiusbile
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Posted - 2005.07.13 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kipkruide
or to answer the question no one is ever going to bother copying their bpo.
But surley by selling bpc's as well as the ships it opens the market for them. Take me for instance, i dont have 1.8 bill to buy a freighter outright but may have the cash for some copys to build it myself.
by making copys it opens the way for ppl like myself to get one of these giants thus generating more sales for them.
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fabiusbile
Director of R&D
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.07.13 11:31:00 -
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and i though 1.2bil was much \o/
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DeODokktor
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Posted - 2005.07.13 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tenashi
and i though 1.2bil was much \o/
1.2 was that guy taking the **** out of everyone who wanted it ..
the ISD department kept cleaning the thread every few hours so most of you guys never seen what we really thought of them...
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skilz
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Posted - 2005.07.13 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Fabiusbile
Originally by: Kipkruide
or to answer the question no one is ever going to bother copying their bpo.
But surley by selling bpc's as well as the ships it opens the market for them. Take me for instance, i dont have 1.8 bill to buy a freighter outright but may have the cash for some copys to build it myself.
by making copys it opens the way for ppl like myself to get one of these giants thus generating more sales for them.
What are you talking about, it takes FIVE times a long to copy one, why copy one?? If it doesn't make sense it's not right.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.07.13 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: DeODokktor
Originally by: Tenashi
and i though 1.2bil was much \o/
1.2 was that guy taking the **** out of everyone who wanted it ..
the ISD department kept cleaning the thread every few hours so most of you guys never seen what we really thought of them...
no, mine is in production for the price and some free offerd hauling help 
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Larno
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Posted - 2005.07.13 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Fabiusbile
Originally by: Kipkruide
or to answer the question no one is ever going to bother copying their bpo.
But surley by selling bpc's as well as the ships it opens the market for them. Take me for instance, i dont have 1.8 bill to buy a freighter outright but may have the cash for some copys to build it myself.
by making copys it opens the way for ppl like myself to get one of these giants thus generating more sales for them.
I'll put it simply for you. The BPO owners have two choices:
1. Make 5 billion ISK profit
2. Make 1 billion ISK profit
Option 1 happens to involve NOT copying the BPO.
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Fabiusbile
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Posted - 2005.07.13 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Larno
Originally by: Fabiusbile
Originally by: Kipkruide
or to answer the question no one is ever going to bother copying their bpo.
But surley by selling bpc's as well as the ships it opens the market for them. Take me for instance, i dont have 1.8 bill to buy a freighter outright but may have the cash for some copys to build it myself.
by making copys it opens the way for ppl like myself to get one of these giants thus generating more sales for them.
I'll put it simply for you. The BPO owners have two choices:
1. Make 5 billion ISK profit
2. Make 1 billion ISK profit
Option 1 happens to involve NOT copying the BPO.
You know thats what they said about HAC's but if you check escrow you'll find copys out there for them.
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fabiusbile
Director of R&D
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Jongo Fett
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Posted - 2005.07.13 12:50:00 -
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u get my free bump
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Unrah
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Posted - 2005.07.13 15:48:00 -
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First of all, thanks for the free bumps and positive feedbacks.
-"Techell back ?" Well, we actually never have been away, we just had a lot of internal problems with changing ceo`s, assets and stuff, but we never stopped selling bs`s and cruisers at algogille.
-To Fabiusbile, i am sorry, but no bpc production planned yet, i guess the first months all the bpo`s will stay either in me/pe research or production.
Keep the offers going!
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Fabiusbile
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Posted - 2005.07.13 15:51:00 -
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ok no probs Unrah,
will keep checking back every now and then but mail me in game if you do start doing bpc's
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fabiusbile
Director of R&D
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Unrah
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Posted - 2005.07.13 20:48:00 -
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A short update, the Charon and the Obelisk have already found a new home, congrats to two wealthy and hopefully happy customers!
Still can`t believe i sold my first Obelisk, i wanted to fly that myself.....
Ahhhhh well, the customer is King!
Providence and Fenir not secured yet, take you chance while they are still aviable.
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George Hurst
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Posted - 2005.07.13 21:49:00 -
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I'll take the Fenir please.
I can mail ingame if you require as well.
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Rasitiln
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Posted - 2005.07.13 22:28:00 -
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ill take a providence, contact me in game
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Unrah
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Posted - 2005.07.14 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Unrah on 14/07/2005 10:52:32
Alright, the Charon and the Obelisk are currently under production and already sold, and to safe myself a lot of mailing:
Providence will enter factory in 2 days, Fenir in about 5 days.
Highest offer will get the freighter when it leaves factory, or you have the option to secure you the right on my first Providence or Fenir for 2.2 bil isk. If more bidders take the buyout on the same freighter, timestamp on the mail or forum entry will taken into account, first come first serve.
My promise that even if i should get bids over 2.2 bil isk after your buyout offer, it still will be yours.
Something else, any capital part producers in around 10 jump range of algogille who still got unsold stock or got his production for the next 3 days not already promised, pls get in touch with me. Slowly i get to the max capacity of our factories.
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Lakta Ligunai
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Posted - 2005.07.14 11:49:00 -
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UNRAH! weeeeeeeeee
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Unrah
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Posted - 2005.07.14 12:36:00 -
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Lakta!
Salute to you, m8! Long time no see, fellow german.
How are things going?
Catch me ingame for a little chatting, got nothing to do anyway than stareing at my factories and counting the seconds.
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Unrah
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Posted - 2005.07.14 22:28:00 -
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Still looking for cpmponent suppliers, i need another 20 cargobays/armourplates/engines and construcion parts for freighters , somewhere close to essence/algogille would be fine, will pay 8 mil per unit.
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Unrah
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Posted - 2005.07.15 19:42:00 -
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The first Providnce (Amarr Freighter) will enter factory tomorrow after dt, the next freighter planned is either another obelisk or the fenir. (will enter factory at monday).
Both aren`t secured yet, so if you are interested get in touch with me or post your offer here.
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Unrah
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Posted - 2005.07.16 11:24:00 -
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Providence is reserved and under production.
Next Freighter in line is either a Fenrir or another Obelisk. (will be aviable at 30.7 then)
Depending on which offer is higher or goes in first.
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