I do not like seeing ships like the Venture. I like more of the variety, like for example - a mining frigate for each race type.

Instead we have 1 look, 1 ship, streamlined.

A miner frigate of each race choice, would offer more choice. More looks, and different gameplay - because of the differing stats on playstyles on each race's ship.

I do not like seeing ships like the Venture. I like more of the variety, like for example - a mining frigate for each race type.

Instead we have 1 look, 1 ship, streamlined.

A miner frigate of each race choice, would offer more choice. More looks, and different gameplay - because of the differing stats on playstyles on each race's ship.

Clearly turning the old mining frigates into a NEW SHIP TYPE was a horrid idea.

Besides, mining is its own playstyle, or should we have racial mining barges too?

Whitehound - Good train of logic. You are correct, but this is what I was getting at -

Lets say you had a huge player corp. They are raising their way of life in New Eden. Their corp is expanding with new pilots, and they are doing their production.

Here are some examples -

Its a growing corp of new players, and they are mainly caldari, in caldari space in and around hi sec.
They are collecting Caldari frigate blueprints, and doing research and copying on them etc.
They will make merlins and kestrels and condors, as their fighters in their fleets. For pvp / escorting haulers / protecting miners.
They will make herons for the eyes, for scouting space.
They will make Bantams and Griffins, as their logistics and Ewar support in pvp.
They will produce their mining frigates, for the miners in the corp. The miners will go mine, and the fighter ships will protect them.

The variety of a mining frigate, would for example, make a caldari mining frigate. This ship would have the caldari common tendencies in its stats, like more shield + mid slots. The caldari mining frigate would blend right in with the caldari focused fleet.

I was just using caldari as an example.
Also, the venture is JUST an example, of all the streamlining that is going on. Don't get so short sighted on the mining frigate.

Racial mining barges would be fun. Just for the sake of example, a Caldari mining barge would have caldari tendencies. More shield and mid slots, ETC... and go well with a shield fleet.

Same thing for other races. Instead we have a boring streamline.

You don't run mining ships in a shield fleet, or an armor fleet. You run them in a mining fleet. Mining ships are their own type.

We had mining frigates and mining cruiser, the reason they took them out had nothing to do with dumbing eve down or streamlining it; it was because they were pointless.


If you really want to think about it. consider ORE its own faction with its own playstyle separate from Caldari, or Gallente, or Minmatar or Amarr.

It is too idealistic. You can certainly take any frigate - any ship - and fit it with mining lasers.

Some ships are simply better than others. Not only are the ORE ships better at mining than what the Empire has to offer, but Pirate factions offer better ships, too.

The Venture is not the only frigate that is able to mine.

You forget that the mining vessels in this game are developed by ORE which isn't a race as such but a company

you could argue that there is only one developer of mining barges and give ORE some competition by introducing another mining company that develops its own competing variant of mining barges / vessels

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I do not like seeing ships like the Venture. I like more of the variety, like for example - a mining frigate for each race type.

Instead we have 1 look, 1 ship, streamlined.

A miner frigate of each race choice, would offer more choice. More looks, and different gameplay - because of the differing stats on playstyles on each race's ship.

I do not like seeing ships like the Venture. I like more of the variety, like for example - a mining frigate for each race type.

Instead we have 1 look, 1 ship, streamlined.

A miner frigate of each race choice, would offer more choice. More looks, and different gameplay - because of the differing stats on playstyles on each race's ship.

You do realize that this is an ORE mining frigate. In the same way the barges are built by ORE and not racial so is the Venture...I'm not seeing the issue.

More looks, and different gameplay - because of the differing stats on playstyles on each race's ship.