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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
947
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Posted - 2013.03.07 21:33:00 -
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I hope the ISDs ban you for spam. You have become the pubbie, Mittani. Yours is the temple whose technetium-clad tables are at risk of being overthrown, whose seats need mixing. You're the one who fears war. -- Sadleric
Vote James 315 for CSM 8! |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1797
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Posted - 2013.03.07 21:38:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:I hope the ISDs ban you for spam. It is a valid question for all the candidates. :) Amarr Militia - Fweddit - http://fweddit.com Poetic Discourse - http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8026
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Posted - 2013.03.07 21:53:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:I hope the ISDs ban you for spam. It is a valid question for all the candidates. :)
Then I trust you won't compain if the candidates send you valid informational evemails...? Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
947
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Posted - 2013.03.07 21:58:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:I hope the ISDs ban you for spam. It is a valid question for all the candidates. :) Then I trust you won't compain if the candidates send you valid informational evemails...? I have to assume not, since he's making a program to aid you in that task. http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2013/03/csm-campaign-season-mass-evemailing.html You have become the pubbie, Mittani. Yours is the temple whose technetium-clad tables are at risk of being overthrown, whose seats need mixing. You're the one who fears war. -- Sadleric
Vote James 315 for CSM 8! |
Jeremy Soikutsu
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
63
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Posted - 2013.03.08 01:43:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:It isn't safe[in null], you certainly can't AFK. As someone who's actually mined in null, yeah you can. At the very most you need one person paying half attention so they can fleet warp for BS rats. Your other points are correct, but I'm not following this thread super well, so I'm not sure of their context, not that I much care. Ripard Teg for CSM 8 |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1800
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Posted - 2013.03.11 11:14:00 -
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from http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.ca/2013/03/is-james-315-crazy-person.html
No.
That's the long and short of it. You can stop reading now, if you want.
I get the impression that a lot of people feel that all James will do, if he makes it onto the council, will be to rant and froth to CCP concerning highsec.
It's ridiculous to think that he's going to be screaming at CCP for twelve months. More ridiculous to think these things if you've read or listened to a thing he's said in the past month and a half.
A lot of people read all the background fluff on minerbumping.com, and assume that's the entirety of James 315's platform. Xander was certainly fooled by it in his interview with James. Just because a guy chooses to be a pain in the ass to miners does not mean he's incapable of critical thinking beyond the scope of his chosen role playing. Hell, The Mittani made some good coin scamming super-capitals from people. He instigated perpetual Hulkageddon and Burn Jita. He supported Ministry of Love's ice miner and freighter ganking operations. Was he a terrible CSM? Was he incapable of thinking beyond the things that amused him in-game?
The thing people can't get past where it concerns James is the rhetoric. Things like "burn all of highsec." Those are simply words to stir up the debate. They're attention grabbers. They give James a spotlight and soapbox, both essential to any successful campaign. If you can get beyond the rhetoric you'll find an intelligent individual, running a coherent and thoughtful campaign.
Get past the rhetoric and James' campaign boils down to these simple principles:
- It should be economically desirable for nullsec people to earn their money in nullsec -- more reward for the risk.
- It should be economically desirable for lowsec people to earn their money in lowsec -- more reward for the risk.
- The risk/reward ratios for wormhole space seem to be working fine.
- Reduce the rewards in highsec, or increase the risk. Either way, keeping the status quo simply increases the highsec population, which fundamentally imbalances the game.
That's a pretty simple and straightforward treatise. The reward should match the risk. It's hard to argue that the risk/reward ratios in EVE are not broken, when most null players elect to earn their money in highsec on their alts. This is not how it always was in EVE. Nullsec people used to play and earn in nullsec; James would like to see the ability to earn where one chooses to play, he'd like to see that return to the game.
This sort of old-style game play already exists with the wormhole people. Wormhole people mostly stay and earn in wormholes. They don't migrate their alts to the low-risk, high-reward environs of highsec. As with wormhole play it should be with nullsec and lowsec play.
James is not only about re-balancing highsec, that's an entire misreading of his campaign. He's about restructuring null and lowsec at its core, to create more playable and risky, yet more rewarding, environments. If you live and fight in null/lowsec, than you should be earning there as well. Highsec shouldn't be a siren song away from those other areas that you call your playground.
Consider this recent quote by James:
Quote:You can't please both the EVE player who just wants to be left alone in the ice field, and also please the EVE player who wants to suicide gank or wardec the industrialists. The latter says "let me shoot spaceships", and the former says "don't let them kill me". Both sides say they're for the sandbox, but enabling either side always comes at a cost. This speaks strongly to the sort of representative James will be. Certainly not one gnashing his teeth and snarling at CCP devs from across a table or a Skype connection. This demonstrates an individual well aware of the balancing act that EVE must perform. He's well-aware that many different play styles must be accommodated. He's understands give and take. You can't go entirely in one direction without harming the game overall.
Sure, James has put forth some radical ideas (who hasn't?), but I'm quite sure James knows which of his ideas he can build traction with and which aren't going to fly with the producers in the room. But start from an extreme position and work your way to the middle, rather than trying to guess where the middle is and then working your way even further from your core ideals.
The most important element that James brings to the CSM is as a watchdog. That's something we've been sorely missing with the last CSM, who seemed more interested in defending and protecting the devs (and CCP) from criticism. We need a CSM representative who will examine every piece of development and ask the tough questions: "How will this affect the core principles that EVE Online was built upon?"
Consider adding James to your ballot. Rank him high. If you value a representative more interested in the game than making pleasantries, then James is your man. If you're more interested in someone willing to criticize bad development decisions, rather than someone who will defend those decisions, then James is your man.
(Hell, the future CSM8 chair supports James. Mynnna has given 4.44B ISK to the cause. If you're Goonswarm, rank your ballot Mynnna followed by James 315; let all those over-votes flow to someone even your leaders support and trust.) Amarr Militia - Fweddit - http://fweddit.com Poetic Discourse - http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com |
High Sec Dan
Republic University Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.03.11 12:18:00 -
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It's quite obvious that people assume James 315's in game activities are his CSM platforrm. You have to remember that James 315 is an old-timer from the glory days of Nullsec PvP, and his platform is in part inspired by a desire to bring that back.
Poetic Stanziel wrote:(Hell, the future CSM8 chair supports James. Mynnna has given 4.44B ISK to the cause. If you're Goonswarm, rank your ballot Mynnna followed by James 315; let all those over-votes flow to someone even your leaders support and trust.)
Mynna might have been amused by James' in game activities, as most wealthy philanthropists are, but he seems entirely unimpressed with James' CSM bid.
Twitters interface is god awful, or I would link the specific tweets, but they are out there for those who want them. The gist of Mynna's response to James 315 is this:
- James 315 is not at this point on the official Goonswarm ballot.
- Mynna has personal concerns about James 315's platform.
- James 315 has not put forward details, and highlighted problems that people already agree exist.
- Nerfing high sec to the ground is not advisable.
- It's hard to say what it is that James 315 wants.
The last one is surprising given James has written ad nauseum about his ideas.
At the same time, Mynna has been posturing positively towards the opposing candidate, Trebor. A great example of this is the recent Treborgate article on his blog.
It's hard to say whether Mynna genuinely is philosophically aligned with the safer high-sec crowd, or if this is a political ploy. |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
957
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Posted - 2013.03.11 12:21:00 -
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High Sec Dan wrote:It's hard to say whether Mynna genuinely is philosophically aligned with the safer high-sec crowd, or if this is a political ploy. Well, it isn't a political anything, because the only politics that Mynnna actually needs to engage in is on goonfleet.com, and I believe that he's already gained the position of official Goonswarm candidate. You have become the pubbie, Mittani. Yours is the temple whose technetium-clad tables are at risk of being overthrown, whose seats need mixing. You're the one who fears war. -- Sadleric
Vote James 315 for CSM 8! |
Vin King
State War Academy Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2013.03.11 16:59:00 -
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It's not hard to peer past the layer of overdramatic satire when it comes to Our Saviour, and see what his intent is. The Agents of the Order were a complete boon to me as a new player. As a new industrialist. Everyone wants to paint us as monsters, boogeymen, and alts, but the reality of it all is that we're good people who are having fun playing together, like most corps. Our objectives are simple. Enforce the Code. Collect a pittance of a fee. Provide a welcoming environment for miners. Eradicate the spirit of the Bot. Praise the Saviour of HighSec. These are simple things, things that benefit everyone. I'm proud to be part of the New Order and proud to support 315 4 CSM8. 315 4 CSM 8 |
Primary Me
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2013.03.12 20:46:00 -
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More wise words:
http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/03/a-few-controversial-opinions.html
Are any other CSM candidates this open about what they stand for? Can any of them show even a fraction of this level of honesty? James 315 for CSM 8. A voice for hi-sec, a voice for reason. |
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Niko Trive
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.03.14 02:11:00 -
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James 315 has done nothing for high sec in terms of improving it other than encourage hate and discontent. Him and his followers know as New Order have run more new players off and they have quit the game. Why? Because New Order ganks anyone they think is "botting" in high sec or is maybe afk.
Who made them the judge, jury, and executioners of High Sec? So what if someone needed to use the bathroom or answered the phone and left his keyboard while mining. Who are they to decide if someone is bottin? What proof do they have for botters? The programming code? I don't like botting or folks who afk mine on purpose anymore than the next guy, but that is CCP's problem to solve. And for James 315 and his followers to make this decision for CCP is just pure horse-manure.
And btw, CCP just kicked a bunch of bot'ers not that long ago, so James 315 really doesn't have a logical leg to stand on. His philosophy is a just another con artist job. Wake up folks! 10 million isk to mine in high sec? Extortion is what that is called.
I also doubt he will be a good CSM because he doesn't represent High Sec folks at all. He doesn't represent me, nor will he if my vote counts for anything. High sec is where we new players learn to play the game. High Sec is where the bulk ore is mined to supply the wars in Low and Null sec. When we are ready for a challenge then we go to low and null sec where ganking is the norm. The action is in low and null, not high sec. And after reading most of www.minerbumping.com I have come to the conclusion that James 315 and his followers are p!$$ ants, losers who couldn't cut it in low and null sec.
Now if CCP was serious about law enforcement in High Sec, all of these "High Sec saviors" with negative security ratings would be blown up upon entering high sec on the spot. No questions, no warnings, no nothing. You earned that negative security rating so you live with it. Why should new players have to suffer for the morons and jerks like James 315?
James 315 you are a LOSER, you will not, ever, get my vote for CSM.
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Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1342
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Posted - 2013.03.14 02:26:00 -
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Niko Trive wrote:Who made them the judge, jury, and executioners of High Sec? They did. If you don't like it you should do something about it. I support Malcanis and Psychotic Monk for CSM8. |
Wescro2
New Order Logistics CODE.
66
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Posted - 2013.03.14 02:37:00 -
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Niko Trive wrote:James 315 has done nothing for high sec in terms of improving it other than encourage hate and discontent.
300+ shareholders and 100+ knights and agents disagree with you.
Niko Trive wrote:Him and his followers know as New Order have run more new players off and they have quit the game.
Citation needed.
Niko Trive wrote:Why? Because New Order ganks anyone they think is "botting" in high sec or is maybe afk.
You're damn right we do.
I'll leave the rest of the rant alone or for another thread maybe. This thread is about James 315's CSM candidacy, not the New Order of High Sec.
Niko Trive wrote:High sec is where we new players learn to play the game.
So you do agree with James 315.
Niko Trive wrote:James 315 you are a LOSER, you will not, ever, get my vote for CSM.
I think I know what you are upset about, but sadly I can not disclose it due to forum rules. You shouldn't have been flying that Mackinaw in 0.5 space with minimal tank. Being accosted by James 315's people in game is no reason to not support his platform. I've been ganked by goons before but I still think Mynnna is a good candidate. Let's not let our personal issues get in the way of fixing high sec. |
Amyclas Amatin
The Phantom Regiment THE ROYAL NAVY
45
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Posted - 2013.03.14 02:47:00 -
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A safe high-sec will make it even harder for new-players to transition into the risks of low and null.
If a risk-adverse player quits because he was ganked, well, we never wanted him in the game in the first place. And we've done something about it.
"New players sign up for Eve because they think that they can play the way they want in the sandbox. New players leave Eve because veterans kick over their sand castles and tell them that there is no safe place for a new player to build them. We have veterans whose sandbox is gathering the tears of the new player, and if the new player quits because of it, well, the veterans didnGÇÖt want that new player anyway."
- http://artofwar-alliance.com/2013/01/30/crabs-in-a-bucket/ The post that got me banned from Eve-Uni: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=210049&find=unread |
Vin King
State War Academy Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2013.03.14 02:49:00 -
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Niko Trive wrote: Him and his followers know as New Order have run more new players off and they have quit the game.
I subbed two accounts on account (get it) of the New Order. Prior to that, I have never played the game. James has added players to the game. 315 4 CSM 8 |
Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
191
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Posted - 2013.03.14 03:15:00 -
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James has not only added players to the game, he's made hisec alot less boring.
Hell, there are players who purposely mine in New Order systems in the hope of getting shot at.......
No, I don't get it either......but they do. |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1072
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Posted - 2013.03.14 09:32:00 -
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Niko Trive wrote:James 315 has done nothing for high sec in terms of improving it other than encourage hate and discontent. Him and his followers know as New Order have run more new players off and they have quit the game. Why? Because New Order ganks anyone they think is "botting" in high sec or is maybe afk.
Care to prove that, mate? Frankly I'm quite tired of the "new players are quitting because of miner bumping/ganking!" lies I see spread on these forums. For a start, CCP themselves have stated that ganking is at an all time low, so there must be fewer people quitting now than ever before, right? Also, how do you claim we're driving away new players when the vast vast majority of our targets are in exhumers and orcas? Ships that take quite a while to train for and hundreds of millions of isk to buy don't strike me as newbie ships.
Niko Trive wrote:Who made them the judge, jury, and executioners of High Sec? So what if someone needed to use the bathroom or answered the phone and left his keyboard while mining. Who are they to decide if someone is bottin? What proof do they have for botters? The programming code? I don't like botting or folks who afk mine on purpose anymore than the next guy, but that is CCP's problem to solve. And for James 315 and his followers to make this decision for CCP is just pure horse-manure.
And btw, CCP just kicked a bunch of bot'ers not that long ago, so James 315 really doesn't have a logical leg to stand on. His philosophy is a just another con artist job. Wake up folks! 10 million isk to mine in high sec? Extortion is what that is called.
We made ourselves judge, jury and executioner. We have the power to protect highsec, and we use it. Welcome to the sandbox, baby.
Quote:I also doubt he will be a good CSM because he doesn't represent High Sec folks at all. He doesn't represent me, nor will he if my vote counts for anything. High sec is where we new players learn to play the game. High Sec is where the bulk ore is mined to supply the wars in Low and Null sec. When we are ready for a challenge then we go to low and null sec where ganking is the norm. The action is in low and null, not high sec. And after reading most of www.minerbumping.com I have come to the conclusion that James 315 and his followers are p!$$ ants, losers who couldn't cut it in low and null sec. Now if CCP was serious about law enforcement in High Sec, all of these "High Sec saviors" with negative security ratings would be blown up upon entering high sec on the spot. No questions, no warnings, no nothing. You earned that negative security rating so you live with it. Why should new players have to suffer for the morons and jerks like James 315? James 315 you are a LOSER, you will not, ever, get my vote for CSM.
You've included a lot of fallacies here. Lets start with the most basic one: That highsec is there to teach new players how to play. That's pure crap. Plenty of new players go straight to low or null sec and make their starts there - baptism by fire, and all that. New players flooding directly into nullsec is actually how goonswarm came to power in null, just so you know. New players do NOT need to stay in highsec to learn how to play, it's insulting to say that they do, especially when there are innumerable examples demonstrating what a falsehood that is.
Saying the bears of highsec will go to low/null when they "are ready" is another falsehood. There are plenty who simply have no interest in going to low or null - and that's fine, but the implication that more of you would end up venturing into low and null if only those nasty nasty gankers would stop interfering with them in highsec is laughable. It's another flat out lie.
Your statement that "the action is in low and null, not high sec" is also rather ridiculous. There has always been action in highsec, in a number of forms. It was designed that way. It wasn't designed as an area of space in which no pvp action takes place, merely a one where it's slightly more limited and with certain consequences.
PS there was far too much ad hominem in your post, u mad bro? |
Usalon Mikakka
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.17 11:25:00 -
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If this smelly little douche bag gets in then, then say good bye to about 500k subscribers. |
Primary Me
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:46:00 -
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Usalon Mikakka wrote:If this smelly little douche bag gets in then, then say good bye to about 500k subscribers. Citation needed.
Or is this you and all your alts?
James 315 for CSM 8. A voice for hi-sec, a voice for reason. |
Amyclas Amatin
The Phantom Regiment THE ROYAL NAVY
76
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Posted - 2013.03.18 01:16:00 -
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Usalon Mikakka wrote:If this smelly little douche bag gets in then, then say good bye to about 500k subscribers.
Too bad we have a democratic process then. Democracy - 3 wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.
James does well in keeping the sheep population down, if it grows too large, they might just out-vote us. *shudders*
The post that got me banned from Eve-Uni: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=210049&find=unread |
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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1101
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Posted - 2013.03.18 09:51:00 -
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Usalon Mikakka wrote:If this smelly little douche bag gets in then, then say good bye to about 500k subscribers.
ad hominem + ridiculously exaggerated claims of hundreds of thousands of players quitting = badpost please try again |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
719
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:39:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote: ridiculously exaggerated writing... ****, j315 fans ought to be right at home then....
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |
Bantara
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
24
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Posted - 2013.03.21 15:53:00 -
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Niko Trive wrote:James 315 you are a LOSER, you will not, ever, get my vote for CSM. The prophet Niko! lol....
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