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Roger Albany
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.10.11 09:32:00 -
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Well I do not - but this article by a former top player states that he does:
http://www.eurogamer.dk/articles/2011-10-07-eve-online-derfor-hader-jeg-spillet-artikel
Unfortunately it is in Danish, but I hope it can still spark some discussion. The main problem seems to be that the eve online is a MMO - it would be much nicer as a one player game. |
non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.11 09:33:00 -
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lol |
luZk
Jaegerkorpset
9
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Posted - 2011.10.11 09:38:00 -
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Haha!
Rough google translation here.
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurogamer.dk%2Farticles%2F2011-10-07-eve-online-derfor-hader-jeg-spillet-artikel&act=url |
The Apostle
The Black Priests
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Posted - 2011.10.11 09:40:00 -
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I squirted this through google translate cos i can't read danish. thought might as well post it too.
Quote:To put it short and very long.
The short version is: Because of the others. Humans. It can be hard enough to be with people you do not know really, the polite smile, small talk'en, but try it in an MMO. It is a new kind of hell, an extra circle, a new form of torture for people who, like me, go into it with an expectation that the virtual life is business as usual '.
The long, or longer, is that my experience with MMOs started with Dark Age of Camelot and ended with Eve-Online. Daoc was a classic "running around and beating goblins kill ', level-up, rinse repeat, games. The people who played, felt a little like pioneers. That was before the tsunami, is called World of Warcraft, and I do not remember the big problems with Daoc, except that it was boring. I managed to level 28th
After a few detours, I came to Eve-Online, and I can at the sacred porridge not remember how or who got me into it, but if I remember it, wanders there.
Yes, yes, Eve-Online is a fine game. Icelandic success story. A space game which Braben and Bell probably would have made it if they had been back then in 1982. One server. One galaxy. One economy. Nowadays there are reportedly over 60,000 avatars online simultaneously. Still larger fleet battles are fought among thousands of spaceships, the servers are forced to their knees and technology tacks afterwards, people become billionaires on trade and good conduct, others steal and cheat their way to success. Yes, Eve is very similar to the real world. Too much.
Eve is a great game. There is not anything much online play with so many people in. World of Warcraft, yes, preserved, which is 11:00 to 12:00 millions who play it against Eve's 300,000, but fooling around 6,000 small servers in small groups that bad coming up on the side of Tisvilde flea market on a good day in August. Well, in comparison, Eve, a large Danish provincial town, half Copenhagen, actually. There are so many people in Eve. They are everywhere. And if they are not just in the solar system, you are in, there are a myriad of chat channels where people do not know and never will meet, spewing an endless stream of vitriolske cruelty against everything and everyone.
There are people all over. And therefore I hate Eve-Online. Now you would think that it is overpopulation I allude to, but no. There are now so many sneaky worm holes, and whatever else it is stated that the room for 0.0 still feels empty in most places.
Eve is a permanent death spasm. Each one brain cell to be used, and you must have reaction abilities as a fighter pilot in order to succeed in the game. How speaks the players even if it means the other MMOs are for sissies. If you can get in Eve, you can get anywhere. It's true. If you are not a hundred percent focused, you are slipping into darkness, where you will be picked up by a virtual Charles Bronson, who without batting an eye, will undress, take everything you own and kick you in the face, just because he can. Rage quitting is everyday life in Eve.
'Just because he can' is the operational phrase here. It could be the motto of the Internet back, and it should stand on its packaging to Eve.
In Eve cultivate stupid pigs that others keep rare orchids. After four years as alliance leader, fleet commander, politician and countless victories and more defeats, I know the game. But if I could get permission to play it alone, it would be the world's best games.
I have a theory about why Eve is still lying and messing around on some 300,000 subscribers. In the real world, life is a mixture of people you like, people you are indifferent and stupid pigs. In Eve cultivate stupid pigs that others keep rare orchids. The cocktail of unbridled gameplay zero consequences of our actions and a huge world with a population the size of Elsinore on the same server is too strong for most people.
It was Sartre who said it: L'enfer, c'est les autres. Hell, it's the others. And everyone pays 150 dollars a month to join.
Unfortunately it just like that Eve Online attracts people with personality disorders, paranoia, delusions of grandeur like no other game I've played. It is a feast for idiots. Many of them are smart enough, do not misunderstand me, but I've probably been to a party or two where there was him enormously loud, hugely inebriated guy over in the corner who came to set the tone for the rest of the party. People went home early that evening.
How is Eve, too. The game boasts that it is a reckless sandbox without limitations, and that's it. But anyone who has sat for a few hours on a random TeamSpeak server in a fleet battle, or come to hurt to read the chat in jita have experienced the feeling.
GÇó Then there was his plumber from Texas who one day came to say that he had been in jail for 10 years. He was about fifty, Marlboro gritty voice and a personality as Papa Doc on a bad hair day.
GÇó Or he Briton, who really had a senior position in a large corporation. He played Eve at home in his apartment every weekend and every night. In Eve, he was also head of a company. He was a skilled fleet commander, and each night he drank so much that he fell asleep at the computer with TeamSpeak open so everyone could hear his drunken snoring.
GÇó Or the other Briton, half unemployed from London, who shamelessly took ******* and other good things, while he played. He was hard to beat when he admitted spam chat with one outrageous incident after another.
GÇó Or the poor kid that I did not know, either virtually or in reality that one day would chat to talk about his girlfriend who had just left him.
Yes, sometimes it becomes a little too real. Ditlevsen called, she wants her egg back snaps.
Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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The Apostle
The Black Priests
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Posted - 2011.10.11 09:41:00 -
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Quote: All against all, no one is safe in 0.0 space. Yeah right. I've never had anything against the rigor of the ethics that govern Eve. All cheats everyone. The problem with that kind of Wild West atmosphere is that it only makes sense if it has consequences. In Eve, there are no consequences. Ok, so you steal 100 billion. by tricking someone into giving you access to the corp hangar. Fair enough. But how will they get at you when you can just transfer money to another account and disappear completely?
And what do the deal with 0.0 space? It sounds very cool. All against all, no one is safe in 0.0 space. Yes, ok, the problem is that those who truly have success out there, running two, three, four, five other accounts on the side. And the avatars that run on the lines are safely in the Empire and shuttle stuff back and forth or grinder NPCs so they can earn ISK to pursue the war further in 0.0. Not very hardcore when it comes down to it, with less hardcore is defined as a massive waste of life.
Take lessons from Iracing - the only MMO I bother to play nowadays. It is as hard as Eve, just as uncompromising. It's a different genre, but the principles are the same. If you run the rotten acts it forever in your statistics. Nobody can hide.
Oh, and then called your character in Iracing exactly the same as stated on the credit card you buy the game.
Such small details helps tremendously on things.
That's it.... Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.11 09:44:00 -
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Quote:GÇó Or he Briton, who really had a senior position in a large corporation. He played Eve at home in his apartment every weekend and every night. In Eve, he was also head of a company. He was a skilled fleet commander, and each night he drank so much that he fell asleep at the computer with TeamSpeak open so everyone could hear his drunken snoring.
That's Eve all right! |
Thorn Galen
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 09:45:00 -
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In that post he made, he says that people pay 150 Dollars (Yes, 1 five zero Dollars), to join Eve............
He goes on about how Eve is basically a cesspool of indifferent people and pigs, who do what they want without consequence.
Eve was obviously not a game for this very kind of special person.
I'm sure someone held his head underwater a bit too long when he was a child.
The door is not real. |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.10.11 09:50:00 -
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This is pretty good publicitiy for EVE ONLINE. It would get me interested, I think I know the texan with a 10 year sentence the guy is talking about :) - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 10:14:00 -
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CCP needs to link to that in it's advertisements. What an endorsement! |
xanderh
Blue Nova Republic Exile..
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Posted - 2011.10.11 10:19:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:In that post he made, he says that people pay 150 Dollars (Yes, 1 five zero Dollars), to join Eve............
He goes on about how Eve is basically a cesspool of indifferent people and pigs, who do what they want without consequence.
Eve was obviously not a game for this very kind of special person.
I'm sure someone held his head underwater a bit too long when he was a child.
In the actual post, he said 150 kr. which is about 20 euro. Still wrong, but not nearly as much. And not everyone pays out of their own wallet at all, I don't, probably never will. |
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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.10.11 10:19:00 -
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Dirk Magnum wrote:Quote:GÇó Or he Briton, who really had a senior position in a large corporation. He played Eve at home in his apartment every weekend and every night. In Eve, he was also head of a company. He was a skilled fleet commander, and each night he drank so much that he fell asleep at the computer with TeamSpeak open so everyone could hear his drunken snoring. That's Eve all right!
I wasn't aware I knew any Danes. GÖÑ Haviing your portrait painted here helps INTAKI Disabled Children GÖÑ |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
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Posted - 2011.10.11 10:39:00 -
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Quote:Eve is a permanent death spasm. Each one brain cell to be used, and you must have reaction abilities as a fighter pilot in order to succeed in the game. How speaks the players even if it means the other MMOs are for sissies. If you can get in Eve, you can get anywhere. It's true. If you are not a hundred percent focused, you are slipping into darkness, where you will be picked up by a virtual Charles Bronson, who without batting an eye, will undress, take everything you own and kick you in the face, just because he can. Rage quitting is everyday life in Eve.
I feel so ******* damn proud now ! :D
(no wonder this is the only MMO i've ever played ... ^^) |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2011.10.11 10:42:00 -
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Quote:Unfortunately it just like that Eve Online attracts people with personality disorders, paranoia, delusions of grandeur like no other game I've played
I can't argue with that. CSM - Do you think? You see if they ruin high sec and WHs, you are ripping the newbie uterus out of EVE and feeding it to the big alliances. When it is gone, they will starve and die. |
Nel Gardier
Time Sync
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Posted - 2011.10.11 11:05:00 -
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Quote:Eve is a permanent death spasm. Squirting death juices....
endlessly no doubt. |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
58
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Posted - 2011.10.11 11:28:00 -
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Nel Gardier wrote:Quote:Eve is a permanent death spasm. Squirting death juices.... endlessly no doubt.
This is true. I'm in EvE and I kill whole potential populations almost every day. O:) |
Juddas Priest
Masonic Templar Warfare Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.11 11:47:00 -
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The Apostle wrote: After a few detours, I came to Eve-Online, and I can at the sacred porridge not remember how or who got me into it, but if I remember it, wanders there.
WTF is sacred porridge
You canGÇÖt reason someone out of a position they didnGÇÖt reason themselves into |
Florestan Bronstein
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2011.10.11 11:55:00 -
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Juddas Priest wrote:The Apostle wrote: After a few detours, I came to Eve-Online, and I can at the sacred porridge not remember how or who got me into it, but if I remember it, wanders there.
WTF is sacred porridge http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22sacred+porridge%22 |
Rifter Enthusiast
Convex Enterprises THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.10.11 11:57:00 -
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Highsec = Singleplayer
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Rifter Enthusiast
Convex Enterprises THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.10.11 11:58:00 -
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buggy forums double-posting and giving me error pages in between =p |
baltec1
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Posted - 2011.10.11 12:11:00 -
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Quote:you will be picked up by a virtual Charles Bronson, who without batting an eye, will undress, take everything you own and kick you in the face, just because he can.
Couldn't agree more. |
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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
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Posted - 2011.10.11 12:27:00 -
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Quote:He was a skilled fleet commander, and each night he drank so much that he fell asleep at the computer with TeamSpeak open so everyone could hear his drunken snoring.
That really made me think... I need a more comfortable computer chair! |
KingMazz ONE
Epyks Mining Ops
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Posted - 2011.10.12 08:45:00 -
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what i hate about eve is my ***** is so big it does not fit in my ship it drags in space freezing behind my ship. |
Revajin
15 Minute Outliers Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2011.10.12 09:29:00 -
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I wonder if he realizes there's a game called X3 which is a lot like EVE except singleplayer, and with manual controls, and is horrible. |
Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2011.10.12 11:10:00 -
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Proof that eve is dying.
Proof I say.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Count Austheim
Raven's Flight
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Posted - 2011.10.12 12:39:00 -
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When ever a Danish woman talks to me, my heart melts. If this ships a-¦rockin, then im strangling someone....
http://count-austheim.blogspot.com/ |
Mersault
The Pie Factory
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Posted - 2011.10.12 13:06:00 -
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What a brilliant endorsement of EvE |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.12 13:08:00 -
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1) Sacred Porridge?
2) These are all the reasons I love Eve. In real life I'm considerate, patient, generous, self-sacrificing, etc. I'm not a paragon of christian virtue, but I make an effort to treat people how I would like to be treated and to try and make the world around me a bit better whenever and however I can.
When I log into Eve I get to be conniving, greedy, powerhungry, violent, careless, heck even mean and ignorant if I really want. Eve is like this second world where you get to exercise all of those base, visceral social urges that we suppress in the real world because of the negative results of indulging in them. In Eve when things get too ugly, you just turn off the computer and go watch the football game, and come back fresh the next day for a new round of of destruction and mayhem.
3) Sacred Porridge? |
MollyPuss
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.12 17:15:00 -
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Quote:and I can at the holy porridge not remember how or who got me into it
Translator ftw!!!! hahahahaha |
Lord Ryan
Derailleurs
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Posted - 2011.10.12 17:21:00 -
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I feel you bro, I like to play with myself too. -á
I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
flakeys
The Great cornholio's Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.10.12 17:35:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Quote:Unfortunately it just like that Eve Online attracts people with personality disorders, paranoia, delusions of grandeur like no other game I've played I can't argue with that.
Amen to that one ...
Difference is where this sets one person off to eve it attracts the other.What would eve be without the sicko's , scammers , general assholes and griefers.
On a sidenote agree or disagree with the guy/girl , he/she does have a nice way of writing **** down |
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.12 17:51:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:In that post he made, he says that people pay 150 Dollars (Yes, 1 five zero Dollars), to join Eve............
No, he is saying people are paying 150 kroners for the game. Not dollars.... there's other currencies than dollars. ya know? |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.12 17:52:00 -
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MollyPuss wrote:Quote:and I can at the holy porridge not remember how or who got me into it Translator ftw!!!! hahahahaha
That's actually the most accurate translation, it's not wrong. It's completely correct.
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Igualmentedos
Shadow Veil Industrial Shadow Directive
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Posted - 2011.10.12 18:28:00 -
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Sacred porridge gets my vote. |
Trainwreck McGee
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.12 18:34:00 -
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This guy totally got his Freighter ganked CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Remarka Belle Locus
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.12 18:40:00 -
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Sacred Porridge? |
Russell Casey
One Ton the dragons of eve
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Posted - 2011.10.12 22:02:00 -
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There's your endgame folks----becoming disgusted with humanity. |
Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Iure Divino
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Posted - 2011.10.12 22:27:00 -
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I think someone stole his sacred porridge and he wants it back. |
EVE Stig
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.12 22:33:00 -
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"Eve is a permanent fatal convulsion. Each one brain cell to be used, and you must have reaction abilities as a fighter pilot in order to succeed in the game. How speaks the players even if it means the other MMOs are for sissies."
2.) its called X3 Reunion "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |
JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.10.13 01:54:00 -
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All glory to the sacred porridge!
As a dane, I can tell you that we take porridge very seriously, almost as seriously as our internet spaceships. (Actually, it's just a bad translation :T)
The writer conveys the spirit of eve correctly, but fails to enjoy it (read: he refused to pick up the soap). |
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