And sometimes your neutrality must be shifted in light of major evidence to shake up that neutrality. Besides, he may be a CONCORD loyalist, but he isn't a decision maker IN CONCORD. He's allowed his opinion while maintaining his professional neutrality.

He can say Heth should be shot, but not make a single move to actually act out and shoot him or any Caldari ship obeying the law per CONCORD neutrality.



That's seriously a jump of logic there Tibs...

Actually it's not. Grideris was a major player in the Anti-Nation actions a couple of years back, claiming to be working on behalf of CONCORD. I happen to believe that a member of an organization who is rather high on the totem pole, as it were, needs to be careful about what they say, as they are taken to be representatives of that group. I am simply wondering if FCORD is no longer considering themselves CONCORD loyal (as CONCORD is supposed to be made up equally of members of all five signatory empires, including the state, and that applies to whomever happens to be leading at the moment, unless you expect the Federation to have to resign oaths and acts every time they have an election).

In this case, a representative of CONCORD is now attempting to encourage a rebellion against one of the sovereign empires that makes up CONCORD. This constitutes an interference by someone aligned to CONCORD in the personal affairs of a separate, sovereign nation-member of that agreement.

And just because it is happening with the state today doesn't mean that it can't happen with the federation, republic, or empire tomorrow.

You have to examine your membership and loyalty to that organization. It was sold to you as a service, but it has become, as all services do, your master.

Or do you think it appropriate that CONCORD should begin telling its member nations how to conduct their affairs?

The Providence Directorate, however, is.

That being said, I-RED will be continuing its efforts along side Provist forces in Black Rise to ensure the stability and liberties of State citizens are kept intact. The words of Captain Lavius are in fact his own and Ishukone-Raata will continue to respect his rights as a individual to speak out, though they do not officially reflect our organization as a whole.

Was the Treaty signed by the CEP in the name of the CEP, or by the CEP in the name of the Caldari State ? I would genuinely like to know.

In, or out, dear?

You can't have it both ways.

Caldari militia forces are not provists.

In, or out, dear?

You can't have it both ways.

Of course not.

The Taisho was only speaking to emphasize that this will not detract from our support of those in the militia who happen to be Provists, simply because the CPD attacked us. He is not meaning to point out that the Caldari Militia are inherently Provist.

Just because the State Protectorate is the brainchild of Tibus Heth does not mean all those who serve in its capacity are Provist by nature.

One cannot have a revolution by choosing which part of the government to support. All or none. Is it worth sacrificing Black Rise to the Gallente to get rid of Heth? If not, then shut up and toe the line.

One cannot have a revolution by choosing which part of the government to support. All or none. Is it worth sacrificing Black Rise to the Gallente to get rid of Heth? If not, then shut up and toe the line.

Heth and the CPD is the revolution. All this unrest is what I understand to be called the counter-revolution.

Plenty of Caldari and jagii don't seem to understand that.

CONCORD's rapid security classification process and the needs of the Emergency Militia War Powers Act put Black Rise within the reach of the Federation. KK and Wirykomi have lots of assets spread across the cluster including the Federation; Black Rise is a small segment of their portfolios.

The question becomes, when the dust actually settles, has anything really changed? More often than not, based on numerous historical examples, the answer is no.

I fear though, the State that I grew up in, that you did, is gone. The future of the Caldari people is to move forward, not go back. It's time for the State to dissolve and form a new government, one suited to this new age of immortals.

In reply to a particularly irritating half-Goon:

I'll be sure to let you all know when we change our official stance based on the whims and opinions of posters on the IGS.

Lesa a stance and more of a tightrope walk, and oh-so-very-far to fall should you choose poorly!

But walk it skillfully and you'll resist any amount of wind, no matter from which direction.

I am grinning right now.

I do not think of the CEP, CBT, or CN as government, but the collective tools of corporations with common cause and cultural heritage. SWA, STI, SAK, and the STPRO are as well.

The Caldari people and the Caldari Empyreans are very different things, but then I am beginning to sound like one of my favorite former guri.

It's time to tear it down, all of it. Rather than adapting old systems to the new times, totally redesign a system of governance for the Caldari people. Get rid of the Megacorps, the archaic constructs that have been built up over time. Radical? Yes. But, necessary. We've entered a new era in humanity. Let us embrace it.

Once you separate the Caldari people from the tools that control them, in your mind, things suddenly become more clear.

Our "old systems" have jumped every "new" hurdle for thousands of years. Why should we suddenly change it now?

It seems someone is long overdue for a trip to the peaks to feel the winter chill. Maybe then you'll remember how it all works...

Can you rephrase the question? The CEP is the State entity that manages international affairs impacting the whole of the Caldari State; the Caldari State being the megacorporations, corporations, and their subsidiaries.