Then the Ahacs will be overpowered and battleships die horribly, as ahacs survive by speed and signature radius, and they don't miss battleships from any position. As well as tier 3 battlecruisers

Anything that introduces positional tactics, instead of Ball of Death is a step in the right direction.

i would rather like to have a redesigned tracking formula which takes your own ship rotation into account (orbiting ships should not need to track as much as the ship being orbited.. kinda common sense). But it is probably a requirement for your feature request anyway so i am fine with it ;)

Ideas are good when they are theoretically possible.

the original idea is just as demanding as the others. like u said, a local of 1200 would crap all over the servers with these ideas

More server loads
This feature would add more loads to the server and may make the large fleet fights lager. However personally (as one who is not a technician) I believe it would not be more complicated than the transversal and capacitor calculations that currently working on the server.

I just think that all of this, fun as it all sounds, is too enormous of a change to game mechanics to make it viable, for way too little of a positive effect. The game already rewards and punishes position, speed, understanding of the battlefield, direction of your ship, bait and switch tactics, psychological warfare with your enemy, etc. I just don't see how adding an entire hitbox-ish mechanic to it is going to add much at all. Even if the mechanic were added, having your fleet of ships anchor up on you so that it is easier to control range is still going to be a useful tactic, especially in sizeable fleets where micro-managing the movement of all of your members should be secondary, tertiary, or lower on your list of priorities.

So should the tracking speed increase or decrease, when the ship is rotating statically? I don't quite get the idea.

imagine your ship is a tank. A quick tank "orbits" a not moving tank. The not moving tank has to turn the gun to hit the quick tank. The quick tank however does not have to rotate the gun at all, since the tank itself rotates. In eve, both have to rotate the gun the same amount to hit something... which does not make sense at all. (the root for this issue is the fact that the server dos not know the ship orientation, you are a point.)

how exactly does the orbiting tank not have to turn its turret.

once he turned it 90 degrees he doesn't have to do anything anymore. It will always point to the enemy as long he drives in perfect cirlces. The tank itself rotates already.

once he turned it 90 degrees he doesn't have to do anything anymore. It will always point to the enemy as long he drives in perfect cirlces. The tank itself rotates already.

Or just screw capital tracking and make capital fights between grids. They hit any ship on the same grid but instead of 150km they get 150k km range. Other ships must go to the opposing capital fleet's grid and target the capitals for their fleet, one ship linked with a capital. The opposing capitals will notice the targeting ship and can try to have it destroyed by the defending sub-capital fleet before the shots are fired.

So you have a sub capital fights going on around two capital fleets in different grids while the capital ships dish it out on more stellar ranges. Fighter bombers and fighters need to be assigned to sub-capital pilots to coordinate the attacks on the enemy grid.

Also deploying cynos would be more strategic.


Alright, alright, I shut up.

this would require the creation of a new collision engine witch is non existent at the moment. Those collisions engines are VERY heavy and require a lot of resources. Also the current tracking and shooting formulas would need to be completely revamped to allow this kind of behavior even if the ships are physical cubes with 6 areas of collision, the most important problem here is how resource intensive are most collision system but it would be a cool feature.

note: in most fleet fights i have been we dont orbit anyone unless its a remote repair fleet, sniper fleets in 0.0 HAVE TO MOVE or they will get trapped in a bubble and die horribly.

especially in sizeable fleets where micro-managing the movement of all of your members should be secondary, tertiary, or lower on your list of priorities..

Watch the fanfest videos about tessellation?

If you want realism, go play Microsoft Flight Simulator.
EVE is a global space MMO, and as such, it has to make some steps to reduce server and network load to make the game available to players.
What you suggest would make the game unavailable to many, if not most, people out there.

Hum, I understand the tracking in EVE are somewhat different from what in a really close range tank fights.

As in EVE, spaceships are ranged by kms, for most of the time, the time took that rotate turret to the right direction should just take a minor proportion over the tracking process. The majority of tracking power would be spent on fine turnings that make sure the bullets/laser beam really reach the target many kms away, rather than just point the turret to a roughly correct direction.

In this situation, the movement of the shooter itself should increase the difficulty of aiming.