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Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:20:00 -
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Gillia Winddancer wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Gillia Winddancer wrote:And let's not forget one of the most important aspects: the huge amount of time and effort that is put in on actually defending your turf....
....no wait, my bad. I was thinking about a whole different game. During sov warfare, yes. The defenders do have to put in a lot of effort. If only CCP would make it so that sov warfare was actually appealing, it'd happen more often. Well, that's the problem. If you start talking about the appealing factor you will automatically get back on the very question why null is so dead, why people in high-sec tend to avoid it, blobs and yada yada yada with all kinds of resulting Baghdad Bob responses from the blob masters.
What I find stupid is that Eve is one of the few games where over 100 people can all work together in a real time battle, yet so much of the player base derides it as "blobs".
Instead of asking about what nullsec players do, a better question is why are people playing one of the most massively multi-player games when they hate working with other people, and even hate other players for working together? |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Knights of Athena
Eve Engineering
210
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:22:00 -
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Just in general, Eve is the only MMO game that I have played that seems to be able to be played semi to fully afk in almost every aspect...almost. Not sure what to think of that fact sometimes. I guess Eve's saving grace is PvP.
Supposedly even the Big Blue donut does nothing to ease the immense amount of butthurt on these forums. |
Gillia Winddancer
Shiny Noble Crown Services
305
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:30:00 -
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Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Gillia Winddancer wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Gillia Winddancer wrote:And let's not forget one of the most important aspects: the huge amount of time and effort that is put in on actually defending your turf....
....no wait, my bad. I was thinking about a whole different game. During sov warfare, yes. The defenders do have to put in a lot of effort. If only CCP would make it so that sov warfare was actually appealing, it'd happen more often. Well, that's the problem. If you start talking about the appealing factor you will automatically get back on the very question why null is so dead, why people in high-sec tend to avoid it, blobs and yada yada yada with all kinds of resulting Baghdad Bob responses from the blob masters. What I find stupid is that Eve is one of the few games where over 100 people can all work together in a real time battle, yet so much of the player base derides it as "blobs". Instead of asking about what nullsec players do, a better question is why are people playing one of the most massively multi-player games when they hate working with other people, and even hate other players for working together?
It's true that EVE is rather unique in that it can muster a lot of people together. But it doesn't mean that just because it is possible that it should automatically become the be all and end all solution. Which it more or less currently is. It is not as much about hating people who are working together but rather that you are forced to work with the same group - namely the biggest group - of people to generally get anywhere in null these days.
And of course, say what you want but the fact that a lot of null is rather empty and lots of people avoid null for these very reasons just to name a few still stands strong as ever.
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Generals4
Liandri Covenant
1713
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:30:00 -
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Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:Just in general, Eve is the only MMO game that I have played that seems to be able to be played semi to fully afk in almost every aspect...almost. Not sure what to think of that fact sometimes. I guess Eve's saving grace is PvP.
I wish you good luck with those methods in WH's. Now i will agree there are many close to afk activities and it is a shame if you ask me but i'm sure eventually CCP will address some of those issues... Ah who am i kidding.
-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |
stoicfaux
2307
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:39:00 -
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Peter Griffin: I say, Quagmire, it seems to me we've each made another $500 mtrillion dollars isk.
Quagmire: Good thing we swore off womenplaying Eve so we wouldn't be distracted and unable to accumulate this vast amount of wealth.
Peter Griffin: Yes. You watch the ticker. I'm gonna microwave a bagel and have sex with it.
Quagmire: Butter's in the fridge!
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6591
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:41:00 -
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i occasionally log in
usually into my jita alt to check my orders
when i'm not doing that or busy with rl concerns i'm posting on different forums and hanging out on test jabber
the nullsec lifestyle
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Eternum Praetorian
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
905
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:43:00 -
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No speculation is needed. I have your answer and I have evidence to back it up.
1. Go into your game.
2. Open your in game internet browser
3. Google "buy isk"
4. See About 14,800,000 results (0.25 seconds)
Now you have your answer.
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Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
216
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:44:00 -
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I think there's a couple of chess clubs... using ships as the game pieces, and the "squares" of the board marked out with anchored cans.
Titan is a "king", supercarrier is a "queen", and so forth... but I dunno... folks get tired of being pawns. 
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Karrl Tian
Exiled Assassins
179
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:45:00 -
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They play on alts in highsec. |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:55:00 -
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Gillia Winddancer wrote:
It's true that EVE is rather unique in that it can muster a lot of people together. But it doesn't mean that just because it is possible that it should automatically become the be all and end all solution. Which it more or less currently is. It is not as much about hating people who are working together but rather that you are forced to work with the same group - namely the biggest group - of people to generally get anywhere in null these days.
So you are doing a lot of structure shots out in nullsec? Because that is about the only time you seriously run into "blobs". There really isn't any shortage of small gang or even solo gankers.
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And of course, say what you want but the fact that a lot of null is rather empty and lots of people avoid null for these very reasons just to name a few still stands strong as ever.
When the only things to do are a bit of ratting, or logging out and waiting for a fleet, you probably aren't going to find a lot of players just hanging around. |
Mire Stoude
Antelope with Night Vision Goggles
96
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:06:00 -
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When I was in Null, I ship-spinned and trolled forums until I got a jabber ping to fleet up. By then I was too bored to actually fleet up and logged off. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1132
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:07:00 -
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They watch high sec'ers actually PLAYING the game and not sitting around waiting, and get jealous.
That's why they all tend to come back to high with their hatred burning and wanting to commit vile crimes against pods, then run back to their safe, protected BLUE space.
While we laugh. 
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
fukier
RISE of LEGION
771
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:10:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
If we could give all ships system-to-system warp capability and eliminate the need for gates (by whatever mechanics) then nullsec becomes the uber leet PVP playground that nullseccers like to pretend that it is.
Go on...
i love graphs they are nerd ****
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Din Chao
172
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:11:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Peter Griffin: I say, Quagmire, it seems to me we've each made another $500 mtrillion dollars isk.
Quagmire: Good thing we swore off womenplaying Eve so we wouldn't be distracted and unable to accumulate this vast amount of wealth.
Peter Griffin: Yes. You watch the ticker. I'm gonna microwave a bagel and have sex with it.
Quagmire: Butter's in the fridge!
mmmm... sex bagels |
fukier
RISE of LEGION
771
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:12:00 -
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i forget you n3 or solar?
cuss there are only ever 4 mega blocks in 0.0 right?
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air
The Unthinkables
2918
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:36:00 -
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fukier wrote:i forget you n3 or solar?
no |
Kari Juptris
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
127
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:39:00 -
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I specialize in staying logged out unless a fleet is pinged for. |
baltec1
Bat Country
5036
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:39:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:fukier wrote:i forget you n3 or solar? no
Most of that doughnut is eating itself |
stoicfaux
2308
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:47:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Usually stay cloaked and AFK all day while at work. Every once in a while, the wife walks by and types something strange in local to make everyone think im stalking them. Quite humorous.
You should marry that woman! (In a RL wedding, not that there's anything wrong with MMO weddings and marriages.)
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air
The Unthinkables
2918
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:48:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Usually stay cloaked and AFK all day while at work. Every once in a while, the wife walks by and types something strange in local to make everyone think im stalking them. Quite humorous.
so you aren't a "bbw looking for nsa while hubby at work". local is much less awkward now |
fukier
RISE of LEGION
771
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Posted - 2013.02.06 01:16:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:fukier wrote:i forget you n3 or solar? no Most of that doughnut is eating itself
mmm doughnuts...
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
706
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Posted - 2013.02.06 01:22:00 -
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Work :(
This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2170
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Posted - 2013.02.06 01:26:00 -
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For the last few days I've been trying to fix my sec status on this guy in between killing TEST in Delve on my other guy and riding the Neo wave in Jita on my trader dude.
#multitasking
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Spurty
V0LTA
Verge of Collapse
788
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Posted - 2013.02.06 02:05:00 -
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Make stuff degrade over time.
Give people things to do.
Imagine that having no rights to go restock guns with ammo or fuel towers or online bits you want without having to be blessed for the work is a big culprit in why people don't have much to do.
It's all locked down and nothing deteriorates over time.
I bet there's structures that have been left to endure the elements for nearly 5 years, which when given some fuel will magically come to life in pristine condition.
This sounds like effort to those with plenty to do already. To someone that has nothing at all they can do but be a meat shield when called on, it will be a sense of purpose
---
GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥
GÇò Philip K. **** |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air
The Unthinkables
2919
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Posted - 2013.02.06 02:11:00 -
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what "elements", it's frickin space |
turmajin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.02.06 02:14:00 -
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Ok hers some ideas to make 0.0 more exciting,and get players logged on.Make not sure if they would work ect but just an idea
1) CONTROL TOWERS, JBs ect make them capturable.Reduce their EHPso theres less actual grinding,and no RF,once the shield is down,the victorious forces are given an option CAPTURE or DESTROY.Once the option is made then a timer starts ,same time as RF now.The losing forces can now either try and retake the CT or JB ect or allow its destruction / capture by not trying to retake it.The important thing is ownership doesnt change .or it isnt destroyed till the timer runs out.I know its forcing battles in some ways ,but isnt that what most 0.0 players want. If not their leaders
2) Make Black Ops BSs immune to cyrojammers ,so they can actualy jump /bridge into any system its covert ops squadron / gang ,thus allowing for more options for PvP below fleet levals.Like raiding to take out infastructure,as above or to just destroy ships or as prelude to fleet jumping in by taking out the cyrojammer.or using covert cyro.
3) Also 0.0 players really should do more than just PvP,the vast majority of corps seem to be PvP oriantainted ,the alliances should be given incentives to get mining and industrial corps into 0.0 with proper stations and proper industry as in high sec now.Thus giving players more options even if PvP player ,after all a mining fleet would be a great target,and would need protecting ,for which the PvP player is paid a percentage of the mining yeild ,same as miner. .on top of any NPC bounties ,from CONCORD
4) I know GOONS do this ,not sure if its al the time though or how many aliances do it now ??.Alliances pay bounties for hostile ships killed .maybe in their home space to start,but if rich enough like Goons anywhere.For hostile i of course mean any non blue .Perhaps Alliances could do it similar to the bounty system now ie kill a 100 mill BC you get 10%of its worth.So if 3 of you take it out you all get 10 mill.But perhaps only the richest alliances can afford to do this .In which case CCP should be looking at ways to increase income for those without TECH moons |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air
The Unthinkables
2919
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Posted - 2013.02.06 02:28:00 -
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turmajin wrote:
2) Make Black Ops BSs immune to cyrojammers
I see we have an expert providing his input on how to improve nullsec.
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Wodensun
ZeroSec
26
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Posted - 2013.02.06 02:39:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:turmajin wrote:
2) Make Black Ops BSs immune to cyrojammers
I see we have an expert providing his input on how to improve nullsec.
lol think he realises the cyno jammer jams the cyno on the covert or that he just worded himself poorly?
afteral hes an expurt....
Also Jam!
I now have the muchies. |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
318
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Posted - 2013.02.06 02:40:00 -
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Log in > set skills > make sure clone is up to snuff > rat out a few hundred million just in case i need to move and buy something on a moments notice > log out, but stay on jabber > wait for jabber broadcasts while looking at ****.
It's still more fun than being in hi-sec. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6593
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Posted - 2013.02.06 03:11:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:turmajin wrote:
2) Make Black Ops BSs immune to cyrojammers
I see we have an expert providing his input on how to improve nullsec.
lmao
man if only you could open covert cynos under jammers
if only
~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~
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