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Rainus Max
Mine. Mine. C0LD Fusion
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:49:00 -
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Its the same reason we don't eat cats and dogs - they were/are working animals and have been in the UK for, what 2000+ years?
A few hundred years ago if you kill and eat your dog you cant hunt as effectively, killing the cat means you have nothing to hunt the mice who eat the grain. Kill a horse you lose you transport to market, the ability to plough the fields etc. It's old thinking these days but after 2000+ years of thinking that way its fairly engrained in the way we live our lives and these days we have enough variety don't need eat horse so why bother starting?
Why do the continent do it? Not a clue, I would suspect its down to the amount of free space to graze more animals, the UK has always been crowded and older farming techniques would have required far more land devoted to staples like wheat.
Yes we are a nation of animal lovers but so what, if I offered you one of every animal on the planet would you eat every single one? Would you even cross the line and eat a human, after all we are just another animal. If the answer is no to either of those, how would feel if it suddenly turned out it was in your burgers?
Anyway its more about the fact that someone has cut corners and misled us into eating horse, like finding out your chocolate cake is 90% mud.
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:Kirjava wrote:the Continent. *quivers* i love when brits refer "the Continent." so delightfully foreign to my perspective.
UK and Europe are about as similar as chalk and cheese. Not to mention the fact we have fought wars with pretty much every single one of them, latest being the EU Budget  |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
600
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Posted - 2013.02.12 20:24:00 -
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Rainus Max wrote:UK and Europe are about as similar as chalk and cheese. Not to mention the fact we have fought wars with pretty much every single one of them, latest being the EU Budget  Who won? Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Rainus Max
Mine. Mine. C0LD Fusion
16
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Posted - 2013.02.12 20:39:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Rainus Max wrote:UK and Europe are about as similar as chalk and cheese. Not to mention the fact we have fought wars with pretty much every single one of them, latest being the EU Budget  Who won?
Depends who you talk to. |

Bernie Nator
4U Services Inc. Talocan United
530
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Posted - 2013.02.12 21:01:00 -
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As a man who is not overly fond of horses, due to several incidents as a boy, i have only this to say:
Quote:Revenge is a dish best served hot, on a bun.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
602
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Posted - 2013.02.12 21:05:00 -
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Rainus Max wrote:silens vesica wrote:Rainus Max wrote:UK and Europe are about as similar as chalk and cheese. Not to mention the fact we have fought wars with pretty much every single one of them, latest being the EU Budget  Who won? Depends who you talk to. Ain't that always the case, eh? Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Astenion
Black Dawn Rising
184
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Posted - 2013.02.13 15:23:00 -
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My point is simply this: how can you belong to a culture with one of the worst diets in the entire world and simultaneously be disgusted by the thought of eating horse? The question is rhetorical, as you've already answered it by stating it's purely aesthetic. Fine. That's all I wanted to hear. It has nothing to do with nutritional value or even taste, but instead it's purely based on offending your sensibilities. It's just a big contradiction to me. It just adds to the already puzzling nature of British cuisine and eating habits. You have no problem eating kidneys smothered in burned gravy or congealed blood and fat, but horse is too much. It's amusing.
Coming from a culture with one of the worst eating habits in the world (the US) and emigrating to a culture with arguably the best eating habits in the world (Italy), I find this whole outrage hilarious, as even in the US I doubt one would find it such a travesty. Granted, if something claims to be beef, it should be beef, and I myself wouldn't like to find out I've been eating horse instead of beef. However, I'm coming from a position of, "If I'm paying for beef, I want it to be beef" and not "OMG IT'S HORSIES!!!! OH THE POOR DEARS!!!" I would feel the same if it were pork instead of horse.
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Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
1089
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Posted - 2013.02.13 20:00:00 -
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i've eaten many of my own horses that have fallen in combat while roaming around the province of skyrim. i use a realism mod on the game lol...and i'll be damned if i'm going to let 1000 gold coins go to waste. horse is a fine meal. |

Astenion
Black Dawn Rising
184
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Posted - 2013.02.13 20:56:00 -
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I should really apologize for coming across like a total ****. I really suck at politeness on the internet; it's not intentional and not confrontational...I just enjoy debating. I'm like Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory when it comes to personal relationships. |

Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
559
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Posted - 2013.02.13 21:11:00 -
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Astenion wrote:I should really apologize for coming across like a total ****. I really suck at politeness on the internet; it's not intentional and not confrontational...I just enjoy debating. I'm like Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory when it comes to personal relationships.
Fair enough, you pushed my buttons better than most which should be taken as a compliment. So my own apologies to you in this case, I think I was a spot militant in my tone 
In Britain we were the underdog for over a millennia, Europe's whipping boy in some cases (the people, not the Nobility) and very small amount of land relative to population. I think food was categorised into things that were a productive resource, and for consumption. As was said earlier, dogs protected and herded, horse's pulled the plough and cats protected the grain. We eat the blood pudding, haggis and the rest because what you lose from using the others a resource, you make up for making the rest go further. That's the culture, the splitting of animals into the helper and the food along single creature lines as opposed to which bits of an animal we have. Family tradition I remember being told of from a few generations back was killing a pig in winter and eating the whole thing, no waste over a month. Boil the bones for soup, the skin for leather, ect.
Morbidly curious, but the liver is the best and most nutritiousness part of the animal, what's the problem with it in you're culture?
We aren't outraged about people on the Continent (swoon away my dear) eating Horse, we're outraged that WE are eating horse. I don't believe there's any laws against horse meat in the UK, we just turn our heads in disgust and get on with our day.
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3465
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:17:00 -
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This story just keeps spreading. And getting worse. Pretty incredible:
http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Britain-finds-horsemeat-in-school-meals-hospitals-4281006.php Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
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Skippermonkey
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1793
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:15:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:Ok, horses are fun to ride and all, but I don't get why some people think meat from one animal is OK and another is not.
Hell, if I was starving, I would even eat chicken. And I hate chicken.
How can you hate chicken?
All it tastes of is the sauce its served in COME AT ME BRO
I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3467
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:47:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Shalia Ripper wrote:Ok, horses are fun to ride and all, but I don't get why some people think meat from one animal is OK and another is not.
Hell, if I was starving, I would even eat chicken. And I hate chicken. How can you hate chicken? All it tastes of is the sauce its served in
Then stop baking them for an hour at 350 F. Slow Roast 3 1/2 hours at 280 F and your opinion will change.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
190
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:53:00 -
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McDonalds started this! |

Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
572
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Posted - 2013.02.15 22:50:00 -
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Which toy did you get?
Also surprised nones made a comic of this yet...
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3503
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:22:00 -
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IMHO the entire world's food distribution system needs a shakeup and overhaul from absolute top to bottom.
Someone is making a fortune and lying to the public, and it's slowly shaping up to the entire world being duped apparently.
http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Mislabeled-fish-a-widespread-problem-4295946.php#photo-4226625
Just wow.
EDIT: just got to the part about "the Ex-Lax fish". Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
685
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:39:00 -
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Thing is, Europes integrated market was desighned when people in Africa would get their kids to finish their food as the people in Europe would love it if they could. Just after WW2, if I remember right in the Ukraine they had to have posters reminding parents it was wrong to eat their dead children (it was that bad). This is irrational now as Europe has resumed first world / great power / superpower status depending on your perspective, but the mechanisms exist to make sure Europe never goes hungry again, screw the consequences.
The mechanisms now end up subsidised farmers to simultaneously slightly overproduce (just in case) and keep land fallow (in case its needed for replacing a loss of land due to the Cold War going hot somewhere in the EFTA. Interestingly the proposals to go ahead with developing TAFTA, as a merger of NAFTA and the EFTA would lead to an integrated Transatlantic food market, which could get sticky given the EU perspective on GM foods.
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |
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