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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7593
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Posted - 2013.02.09 04:25:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I do have a problem with cultures that eat monkey. Humans lack primate muscle and skin, if that was your reason. Supposedly humans taste exactly like pork.
Not exactly, a little less salty
Or so I've been told
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3425
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Posted - 2013.02.09 04:36:00 -
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I still have a problem with cultures that eat monkey. Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1634
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Posted - 2013.02.09 05:02:00 -
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Can't say i'm very fond of monkeys, myself. Although unsure if i'd ever eat one. "In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3425
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Posted - 2013.02.09 05:04:00 -
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Just...........too close to 'us'. Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

baltec1
Bat Country
5064
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Posted - 2013.02.09 08:10:00 -
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Its not that we won't eat horse and die its that its ment to be beef. Also we love horsies. |

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
269
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:04:00 -
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The funniest thing about this is that noone knew the difference, so mechanically recovered horse meat cant taste all that diferant to mechanically recovered cow meat. |

baltec1
Bat Country
5080
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:17:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:The funniest thing about this is that noone knew the difference, so mechanically recovered horse meat cant taste all that diferant to mechanically recovered cow meat.
They both taste like crap. |

Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
227
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:17:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:The funniest thing about this is that noone knew the difference, so mechanically recovered horse meat cant taste all that diferant to mechanically recovered cow meat. That is very close to true. They had to do DNA testing to figure out which meat is which, and how much of it is horse. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3426
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:59:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:The funniest thing about this is that noone knew the difference, so mechanically recovered horse meat cant taste all that diferant to mechanically recovered cow meat.
They were not pure 'slabs' of the meat. They were buried in things like lasagna where a strong tomato flavor would hide the flavor difference to some degree.
Also, it's not that horse meat is bad for you, but horses have to be treated with a certain kind of anti-biotic that hangs around and does get into the meat system and is harmful to humans. That's the main issue from what I've read. Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
405
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Posted - 2013.02.09 20:54:00 -
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Bluntly all the cheap meat is the recovered part, of as we used to call it, "offel". Anus, eyeballs ect, the bits people don't want to think about they are eating. For those not in the know a Brit would rather starve and keep his dignity than eat horse meat. I beleive this comes from the Horse being a resource we had to keep alive centuries ago in the winters, people choose the horse over feeding themselves or their family because while a child could be replaced, a Horse needed to pull the plough. We don't have that much land, so considering the farming practices of then the laws against Horse make sense.
Also I dislike the idea that I'm eating Rainbow Dash Burgers.
I'll eat it if I must, but I'm more annoyed that it wasn't advertised as such.
On an unrelated note, most people in the UK seem think that meat comes from the Supermarket, not an animal. For that reason, I want to learn how to do this because I'm honestly squeamish myself about meat...
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Sodium Canine
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.02.09 23:41:00 -
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When I was a kid, we lived in Belgium for a few years. My mother would rent horse rides from a local stable.
One of the horses threw her once, put her out of action for a few weeks. Apparently the horse had thrown one or two other customers as well. So after she gets healed up, and goes to, well, get back in the saddle again (sorry), the stable owners present her with a big box full of steaks, roasts and burger from the horse. Had to have been 50lbs of free meat in there.
Being the good yuppie liberal touchy-feely type, she threw it all away. My dad was livid.
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Shalia Ripper
346
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Posted - 2013.02.10 02:34:00 -
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Sodium Canine wrote:When I was a kid, we lived in Belgium for a few years. My mother would rent horse rides from a local stable.
One of the horses threw her once, put her out of action for a few weeks. Apparently the horse had thrown one or two other customers as well. So after she gets healed up, and goes to, well, get back in the saddle again (sorry), the stable owners present her with a big box full of steaks, roasts and burger from the horse. Had to have been 50lbs of free meat in there.
Being the good yuppie liberal touchy-feely type, she threw it all away. My dad was livid.
Of course he would be, there had to be another 6-700 pounds they were hanging on to, the selfish bastards. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8
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Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2013.02.10 14:44:00 -
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Horse meat is eaten in many places and is very rich in iron. It has a gamy, bloody taste to it and is used on salad sometimes when shredded into what's called sfilacci in Italy. It's much better than putting crappy bacon bits or croutons in salad. I've tried horse steak on the grill, but it was not to my liking. It wasn't bad, but it has a very strong taste. Donkey, on the other hand, is much, much tastier.
There's no difference between eating horse and eating cow...in fact, horse is probably much better for you due to them being fed decently. Do you use glue? Dead horses. Do you wash your hands with soap? Dead horses.
I have no idea why eating horse meat would be considered taboo if you already eat beef or pork. If anything, drop the pork and stick with horse.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3428
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Posted - 2013.02.10 16:24:00 -
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Here is the reason why this is such an issue:
"While horsemeat itself is not considered a food safety risk, its unauthorized use in certain products has raised concerns it could contain the veterinary drug phenylbutazone, or "bute," commonly used to treat horses.
Meat from animals treated with phenylbutazone is not allowed to enter the food chain as it may pose a risk to human health."
From:http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/08/world/europe/uk-horsemeat-probe/index.html Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2013.02.10 22:20:00 -
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That's completely understandable, but do people REALLY believe that the beef they buy from the grocery store is from grazing cattle? Maybe 20% of the meat bought is, but the rest is riddled with steroids and all kinds of drugs. I would argue that horse is no less safe than mass-produced beef or pork. At least horses don't eat each other and their own *****...can't say the same about pigs. |

Shalia Ripper
349
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Posted - 2013.02.10 23:36:00 -
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Astenion wrote: At least horses don't eat each other and their own *****...can't say the same about pigs.
That must be why bacon is so delicious.
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8
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Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
370
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:56:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Here is the reason why this is such an issue: "While horsemeat itself is not considered a food safety risk, its unauthorized use in certain products has raised concerns it could contain the veterinary drug phenylbutazone, or "bute," commonly used to treat horses. Meat from animals treated with phenylbutazone is not allowed to enter the food chain as it may pose a risk to human health." From: http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/08/world/europe/uk-horsemeat-probe/index.html
'Bute is one of the finest hangover cures known to man. |

Khergit Deserters
699
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Posted - 2013.02.11 22:33:00 -
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The good thing about horses, monkeys, dogs, etc. is they're likely free-range. That meat got plenty of exercise, a natural diet of the animal's own choosing, and no growth hormones added. If you help someone when they're in trouble, they will remember you when they're in trouble again.
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Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
481
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Posted - 2013.02.12 00:38:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Also, is it just me who finds it funny that the UK is up in arms about horse meat, as if their other alternatives are somehow better when in fact horse meat is probably the best thing for them to eat?
"Would you like some gravy on your ice cream? How about some jam in your pasta? Have some more oil with that...here, let me just dump your entire plate into the fryer. WHAT? HORSE MEAT?!?!?! WHAT ARE WE, CULINARY SAVAGES?".
In India they do not eat cows. In the middle east they do not eat pigs. In Israel they do not eat shellfish. And in Britain we do not eat Horse.
Just saying it how it is, just because we're a Western country doesn't mean we don't draw lines in the sand we hope people respect...
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |

Astenion
Black Dawn Rising
183
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Posted - 2013.02.12 12:32:00 -
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Yes, and the reason why all those cultures don't eat those things is because they're all religious fanatics living in the 18th century.
Britain is not. In Britain, you eat just about anything else, regardless of how it tastes, so why draw the line with horse? |
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Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
491
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Posted - 2013.02.12 14:16:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Yes, and the reason why all those cultures don't eat those things is because they're all religious fanatics living in the 18th century.
Britain is not. In Britain, you eat just about anything else, regardless of how it tastes, so why draw the line with horse?
Because of culture, we have it for some reason or another. We are also disgusted by eating baby seals, Wales, Cats, dogs and a cornucopia of other creatures for a plethora of reasons.
Also i wasn't aware of Hinduism giving rise to many religious fanatics...
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Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
1043
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Posted - 2013.02.12 17:24:00 -
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eehrrrm! black pudding. probably the most disgusting idea for a food i've ever heard of being invented.
mmmm! cooked, congealed blood and fat! |

Astenion
Black Dawn Rising
184
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Posted - 2013.02.12 18:46:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Astenion wrote:Yes, and the reason why all those cultures don't eat those things is because they're all religious fanatics living in the 18th century.
Britain is not. In Britain, you eat just about anything else, regardless of how it tastes, so why draw the line with horse? Because of culture, we have it for some reason or another. We are also disgusted by eating baby seals, Wales, Cats, dogs and a cornucopia of other creatures for a plethora of reasons. Also i wasn't aware of Hinduism giving rise to many religious fanatics...
If you don't eat a cow because you believe it's a deity, you're a religious fanatic. You may not be blowing yourself up in town squares, but you're letting a silly belief override common sense. If a vegan or vegetarian found horse meat in what he or she believed was soy, the outrage would be understandable because they are coming from a nutritional and dietary point of view.
Also, I disagree with your hypothesis. We are not disgusted by eating baby seals, whales, cats, or dogs because we think it's disgusting; we are disgusted by eating them because they're cute, cuddly, and/or majestic creatures and because some of them are heading towards the endangered species list. Therefore, I believe this entire business of being appalled over the eating of horse meat comes from an aesthetic and hypocritical point of view: horses are cute, cows are not. You have a problem with eating horses, not out of any nutritional habit or even the taste, but rather because you think they're cute and cuddly. To you, it's ok to eat meat as long as the animal isn't cute or cuddly. Horse meat is better for you than just about anything else consumed in the UK, so just admit to the hypocrisy of this whole farcical outrage against it.
Like I said before, horse meat isn't to my liking simply because it's too strong, although I do enjoy sfilacci. If you're an omnivore disgusted by the thought of eating a horse but have no problems eating a pig or a cow or a chicken, you're a hypocrite. |

Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
1045
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Posted - 2013.02.12 18:53:00 -
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i say cows are cute.
...still eat them though. |

Astenion
Black Dawn Rising
184
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Posted - 2013.02.12 18:55:00 -
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I can devour some veal without a care. I also eat deer, boar, and rabbit. I think it should all be eaten in moderation, however. For example, this whole bacon craze is ridiculous, out of hand, and downright irresponsible. |

Khergit Deserters
703
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:07:00 -
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You'd eat The Black Stallion? My Friend Flicka? Trigger? Silver? I guess that means you'd eat Babe too. Oh wait, we do eat Babe....
But seriously, if people read Temple Grandin's book Animals in Translation: Using the Mysteries of Autism to Decode Animal Behavior they might think twice about eating any domestic animal. The emotional centers of their brains are about as developed as our's are. Then again, our bodies are made to tear, chew and digest meat, so that's my justification for eating animals. That, and the fact that someday something will eat me. [Insert wise Native American statement about interconnectivity of all life on Earth here].  If you help someone when they're in trouble, they will remember you when they're in trouble again.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
596
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:08:00 -
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Kirjava wrote: Also I dislike the idea that I'm eating Rainbow Dash Burgers.
Rainbow Dash-burgers probably taste like cotton candy.
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:i say cows are cute.
...still eat them though. Having spent far too much time near cattle, all can say is "Eurgh." They smell, they're dumb, they've got constantly-snotty noses, and they have very limited personalities. Horses, I can relate to. Cows? Not so much. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
271
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:11:00 -
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The government are taking it so seriously because its a trade standards issue, beef is more expensive and substituting it for a cheaper product while claiming its beef is illegal. There are public health concerns too, partly because of drugs the horses may have been treated with and also for the fact if a meat supplier is willing to break the law by mislabeling a product who knows if the meat was suitable for human consumption in the first place. |

Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
508
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:12:00 -
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Astenion wrote: Like I said before, horse meat isn't to my liking simply because it's too strong, although I do enjoy sfilacci. If you're an omnivore disgusted by the thought of eating a horse but have no problems eating a pig or a cow or a chicken, you're a hypocrite.
I commit what could amount to genocide against these adorable wee bastards.
We don't eat horse, part of the culture take it or leave it, the disgust on peoples faces is evident throughout all this and we were told it was beef. Thus far noone I have talked to gives a damn about the nutritional values of Horse : its still a bloody horse. Haven't I already explained why we historically don't eat horse meat and prefer to let children starve to death in favor of the horse pulling the farms plough in the spring? Yes there's sentimentality in there, but this goes across the spectrum of pets, there's a well defined line between pets and domesticated animals.
Kinda curious as to where you are from, this might purely be a British perspective on meat eating but I'll be damned if I'm going to stop being disgusted by eating horse on the grounds that its eaten on the Continent. I'll eat pretty much anything but there are some things I don't think its possible to get onto anyone's plate regardless of dietary benefits. If its hypocritical to you, I bluntly don't care. I think you'll find that outdated perspectives linger in every culture where its not noticed.
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Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
1048
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:23:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:the Continent.
*quivers*
i love when brits refer "the Continent." so delightfully foreign to my perspective. |
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