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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
225
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:47:00 -
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Yes Ireland, I am looking at you. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/horseburger-firm-blames-170-tons-polish-meat-204124834--finance.html Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1610
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:11:00 -
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In all honesty i'd feel safer eating horse.
Mainly because meat cows are fed other dead cows, which causes them to get mad cow disease, and humans who eat them get CreutzfeldtGÇôJakob disease. Horses are just fed grains, and i've heard they can be quite tasty. "The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
1854
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:15:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:In all honesty i'd feel safer eating horse.
Mainly because meat cows are fed other dead cows, which causes them to get mad cow disease, and humans who eat them get CreutzfeldtGÇôJakob disease. Horses are just fed grains, and i've heard they can be quite tasty.
Feed horses to cows. Problems = solved. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
987
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:35:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:In all honesty i'd feel safer eating horse.
Mainly because meat cows are fed other dead cows, which causes them to get mad cow disease, and humans who eat them get CreutzfeldtGÇôJakob disease. Horses are just fed grains, and i've heard they can be quite tasty.
According to Zombieland that's how we became zombies!
Did you know that Gordon Ramsey tried to promote Horse meat in the UK once? |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1610
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:41:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:According to Zombieland that's how we became zombies!
Did you know that Gordon Ramsey tried to promote Horse meat in the UK once?
I did not know that.
Supposedly it's not so taboo in France. "The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Shalia Ripper
337
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Posted - 2013.02.06 01:21:00 -
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Ok, horses are fun to ride and all, but I don't get why some people think meat from one animal is OK and another is not.
Hell, if I was starving, I would even eat chicken. And I hate chicken. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
225
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Posted - 2013.02.06 01:36:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:Ok, horses are fun to ride and all, but I don't get why some people think meat from one animal is OK and another is not.
Hell, if I was starving, I would even eat chicken. And I hate chicken. It is cultural. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1610
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Posted - 2013.02.06 01:39:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:Ok, horses are fun to ride and all, but I don't get why some people think meat from one animal is OK and another is not.
It mostly seems to be about what pets people keep, or have relationships with in some way. When someone has a pet or horse they learn they have unique personalities, so it's harder for us to eat them. But all those animals out in the wild or in the slaughterhouse we consider to be different. "The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Shalia Ripper
337
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Posted - 2013.02.06 01:56:00 -
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Meat is delicious. Usually. I already mentioned my hatred of chicken.
People need to get over silly sentimentality in regards to pets. Although I would never eat my dog, he licks his own bum too much. See, that is a practical reason to not eat an animal. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
987
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Posted - 2013.02.06 02:28:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:Although I would never eat my dog, he licks his own bum too much. See, that is a practical reason to not eat an animal.
Chickens eat their own **** and cows drink their own urine. Just a little food for thought |
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
225
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Posted - 2013.02.06 02:37:00 -
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Beer For My Horses Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
206
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Posted - 2013.02.06 06:09:00 -
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While in the Navy and visiting foreign countries, I have eaten what some people here in the US would consider weird or down right disgusting.
I'll try just about anything food wise, and as someone who was raised around horses, I wouldn't mind trying horse meat.
I once explained to my daughter, who loves crab meat, that crabs are related to spiders. She thought this was funny as hell because she hates spiders and now sees eating a crab as revenge for spiders scaring her. Surrender is still your slightly less painful option. |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
725
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Posted - 2013.02.06 06:32:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:and i've heard they can be quite tasty.
depends on how you cook the meat. eating horse meat feels like you're eating meat with ungodly amounts of sugar. that's how sweet it is. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
853
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Posted - 2013.02.06 08:06:00 -
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Marie Hartinez wrote:I once explained to my daughter, who loves crab meat, that crabs are related to spiders.
this is actually not true =p
spiders are arachnids and crabs are crustaceans.
good story though. and funny =)
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Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
206
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Posted - 2013.02.06 08:43:00 -
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Eurydia Vespasian wrote:Marie Hartinez wrote:I once explained to my daughter, who loves crab meat, that crabs are related to spiders. this is actually not true =p spiders are arachnids and crabs are crustaceans. good story though. and funny =)
Technically, they are both in the arthropods phylum.
They are related, it's just a bit of a streeeeeeeeetch. Surrender is still your slightly less painful option. |
Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
196
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Posted - 2013.02.06 09:18:00 -
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I can't remember when I saw hare or rabbit served, and that is the problem; we don't eat what we think look cute. I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
756
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Posted - 2013.02.06 11:52:00 -
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what is a horse, if not a pretty cow?
i dont really mind, just label things correctly and everyones fine with it. We eat all kinds of utter crap in other foods thats clearly labeled (bacteria poop in light mayo for example, google "xanthan gum")
oh... + endless horse puns etc http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
597
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Posted - 2013.02.06 17:41:00 -
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That-¦s why I like to eat lizards, goats and snakes ...
Man, in my country you can even buy the lizards tied to a wood plank and string for easy transport!!! Yum yum, delicious lizard, we also make sausage out of this , which in short is a big giant hairy rat Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
536
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Posted - 2013.02.06 17:55:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:
The only symptoms of brain damage are often behavioral.
Ah. That explains so much.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
536
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Posted - 2013.02.06 17:58:00 -
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Marie Hartinez wrote:While in the Navy and visiting foreign countries, I have eaten what some people here in the US would consider weird or down right disgusting.
Balut?
Also: Monkey-on-a-stick. Which might easily be dog or cat. Or even rat. Subic will make a man of you, one way or another.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
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Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
207
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Posted - 2013.02.06 18:15:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Marie Hartinez wrote:While in the Navy and visiting foreign countries, I have eaten what some people here in the US would consider weird or down right disgusting.
Balut? Also: Monkey-on-a-stick. Which might easily be dog or cat. Or even rat. Subic will make a man of you, one way or another.
Maybe it was dog-on-a-stick that was actually monkey. Whatever, I didn't ask too many questions of the street vendor.
While in Thailand, ate something that I was told was cockroachs. Vaguely reminded me of lobster. Or maybe it just brought back the memory of my marinebiology professor telling the class how cockroaches and lobsters are "related".
Then there was that snake drink we weren't suppose to partake of in Japan. Also learned to enjoy sushi and raw fish while there.
I seem to remember something with eyeballs..... Surrender is still your slightly less painful option. |
Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
207
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Posted - 2013.02.06 18:29:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote:That-¦s why I like to eat lizards, goats and snakes ... Man, in my country you can even buy the lizards tied to a wood plank and string for easy transport!!! Yum yum, delicious lizard, we also make sausage out of this , which in short is a big giant hairy rat You all made me hungry for a chiguire burger! Miss my homeland-¦s cuisine sometimes ...
Like a good German Americian, I'll eat almost anything if it's made into sausage.
My wife, who is Latina, was eating a lenga burrito one day. Asked what she was eating, and in a complete dead-pan look, told me it was tongue. Told me I probably wouldn't like it. Informed her as a person of "proper" German upbringing, I've had tongue, lungs, and just about any part of a cow, pig, or chicken.
My grandmother, who was German, would send out Igor for stuff like that. I never asked questions. Surrender is still your slightly less painful option. |
NeoShocker
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
162
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Posted - 2013.02.06 20:00:00 -
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Haha you people. food is food :) I will leave this, and these and that here :) |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
227
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Posted - 2013.02.08 23:19:00 -
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Another one bites the dust: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/horsemeat-scandal-reaches-sweden-204726106.html Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3424
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:09:00 -
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Laotian Snake Whiskey
And.............seriously Iceland ? Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
460
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:58:00 -
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What? no Bacon? Leaves thread. wumbo |
PantrashMoFo
Bruggen Raiders United Sytems Against Terrorist Opperations
11
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Posted - 2013.02.09 02:49:00 -
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The way i see it, if God didn't intend us to eat certain animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. |
Jonah Gravenstein
The Burning Lotus
5584
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Posted - 2013.02.09 03:27:00 -
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Every creature has a place, on my plate next to the taters and gravy.
I've eaten horse, snake, rabbit, hare, kangaroo, ostrich and numerous other creatures (ox heart.. yueegh, repeated on me for days). The only problem I see is the mislabelling of contents.
A friend of mine farms, he has a couple of pigs and a sheep as pets, they have names so they won't get eaten. Everything isn't personified with a name is food as far as he's concerned.
I am Ohm of Borg, Resistance is Voltage/Current. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3424
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Posted - 2013.02.09 03:30:00 -
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I do have a problem with cultures that eat monkey. Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1634
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Posted - 2013.02.09 04:13:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I do have a problem with cultures that eat monkey.
Humans lack primate muscle and skin, if that was your reason. Supposedly humans taste exactly like pork. "In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7593
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Posted - 2013.02.09 04:25:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I do have a problem with cultures that eat monkey. Humans lack primate muscle and skin, if that was your reason. Supposedly humans taste exactly like pork.
Not exactly, a little less salty
Or so I've been told
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3425
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Posted - 2013.02.09 04:36:00 -
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I still have a problem with cultures that eat monkey. Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
1634
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Posted - 2013.02.09 05:02:00 -
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Can't say i'm very fond of monkeys, myself. Although unsure if i'd ever eat one. "In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3425
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Posted - 2013.02.09 05:04:00 -
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Just...........too close to 'us'. Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
baltec1
Bat Country
5064
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Posted - 2013.02.09 08:10:00 -
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Its not that we won't eat horse and die its that its ment to be beef. Also we love horsies. |
Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
269
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:04:00 -
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The funniest thing about this is that noone knew the difference, so mechanically recovered horse meat cant taste all that diferant to mechanically recovered cow meat. |
baltec1
Bat Country
5080
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:17:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:The funniest thing about this is that noone knew the difference, so mechanically recovered horse meat cant taste all that diferant to mechanically recovered cow meat.
They both taste like crap. |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
227
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:17:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:The funniest thing about this is that noone knew the difference, so mechanically recovered horse meat cant taste all that diferant to mechanically recovered cow meat. That is very close to true. They had to do DNA testing to figure out which meat is which, and how much of it is horse. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3426
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:59:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:The funniest thing about this is that noone knew the difference, so mechanically recovered horse meat cant taste all that diferant to mechanically recovered cow meat.
They were not pure 'slabs' of the meat. They were buried in things like lasagna where a strong tomato flavor would hide the flavor difference to some degree.
Also, it's not that horse meat is bad for you, but horses have to be treated with a certain kind of anti-biotic that hangs around and does get into the meat system and is harmful to humans. That's the main issue from what I've read. Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
405
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Posted - 2013.02.09 20:54:00 -
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Bluntly all the cheap meat is the recovered part, of as we used to call it, "offel". Anus, eyeballs ect, the bits people don't want to think about they are eating. For those not in the know a Brit would rather starve and keep his dignity than eat horse meat. I beleive this comes from the Horse being a resource we had to keep alive centuries ago in the winters, people choose the horse over feeding themselves or their family because while a child could be replaced, a Horse needed to pull the plough. We don't have that much land, so considering the farming practices of then the laws against Horse make sense.
Also I dislike the idea that I'm eating Rainbow Dash Burgers.
I'll eat it if I must, but I'm more annoyed that it wasn't advertised as such.
On an unrelated note, most people in the UK seem think that meat comes from the Supermarket, not an animal. For that reason, I want to learn how to do this because I'm honestly squeamish myself about meat...
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Sodium Canine
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.02.09 23:41:00 -
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When I was a kid, we lived in Belgium for a few years. My mother would rent horse rides from a local stable.
One of the horses threw her once, put her out of action for a few weeks. Apparently the horse had thrown one or two other customers as well. So after she gets healed up, and goes to, well, get back in the saddle again (sorry), the stable owners present her with a big box full of steaks, roasts and burger from the horse. Had to have been 50lbs of free meat in there.
Being the good yuppie liberal touchy-feely type, she threw it all away. My dad was livid.
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Shalia Ripper
346
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Posted - 2013.02.10 02:34:00 -
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Sodium Canine wrote:When I was a kid, we lived in Belgium for a few years. My mother would rent horse rides from a local stable.
One of the horses threw her once, put her out of action for a few weeks. Apparently the horse had thrown one or two other customers as well. So after she gets healed up, and goes to, well, get back in the saddle again (sorry), the stable owners present her with a big box full of steaks, roasts and burger from the horse. Had to have been 50lbs of free meat in there.
Being the good yuppie liberal touchy-feely type, she threw it all away. My dad was livid.
Of course he would be, there had to be another 6-700 pounds they were hanging on to, the selfish bastards. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8
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Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2013.02.10 14:44:00 -
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Horse meat is eaten in many places and is very rich in iron. It has a gamy, bloody taste to it and is used on salad sometimes when shredded into what's called sfilacci in Italy. It's much better than putting crappy bacon bits or croutons in salad. I've tried horse steak on the grill, but it was not to my liking. It wasn't bad, but it has a very strong taste. Donkey, on the other hand, is much, much tastier.
There's no difference between eating horse and eating cow...in fact, horse is probably much better for you due to them being fed decently. Do you use glue? Dead horses. Do you wash your hands with soap? Dead horses.
I have no idea why eating horse meat would be considered taboo if you already eat beef or pork. If anything, drop the pork and stick with horse.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3428
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Posted - 2013.02.10 16:24:00 -
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Here is the reason why this is such an issue:
"While horsemeat itself is not considered a food safety risk, its unauthorized use in certain products has raised concerns it could contain the veterinary drug phenylbutazone, or "bute," commonly used to treat horses.
Meat from animals treated with phenylbutazone is not allowed to enter the food chain as it may pose a risk to human health."
From:http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/08/world/europe/uk-horsemeat-probe/index.html Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
Astenion
The Scope Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2013.02.10 22:20:00 -
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That's completely understandable, but do people REALLY believe that the beef they buy from the grocery store is from grazing cattle? Maybe 20% of the meat bought is, but the rest is riddled with steroids and all kinds of drugs. I would argue that horse is no less safe than mass-produced beef or pork. At least horses don't eat each other and their own *****...can't say the same about pigs. |
Shalia Ripper
349
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Posted - 2013.02.10 23:36:00 -
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Astenion wrote: At least horses don't eat each other and their own *****...can't say the same about pigs.
That must be why bacon is so delicious.
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8
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Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
370
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Posted - 2013.02.11 21:56:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Here is the reason why this is such an issue: "While horsemeat itself is not considered a food safety risk, its unauthorized use in certain products has raised concerns it could contain the veterinary drug phenylbutazone, or "bute," commonly used to treat horses. Meat from animals treated with phenylbutazone is not allowed to enter the food chain as it may pose a risk to human health." From: http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/08/world/europe/uk-horsemeat-probe/index.html
'Bute is one of the finest hangover cures known to man. |
Khergit Deserters
699
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Posted - 2013.02.11 22:33:00 -
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The good thing about horses, monkeys, dogs, etc. is they're likely free-range. That meat got plenty of exercise, a natural diet of the animal's own choosing, and no growth hormones added. If you help someone when they're in trouble, they will remember you when they're in trouble again.
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Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
481
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Posted - 2013.02.12 00:38:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Also, is it just me who finds it funny that the UK is up in arms about horse meat, as if their other alternatives are somehow better when in fact horse meat is probably the best thing for them to eat?
"Would you like some gravy on your ice cream? How about some jam in your pasta? Have some more oil with that...here, let me just dump your entire plate into the fryer. WHAT? HORSE MEAT?!?!?! WHAT ARE WE, CULINARY SAVAGES?".
In India they do not eat cows. In the middle east they do not eat pigs. In Israel they do not eat shellfish. And in Britain we do not eat Horse.
Just saying it how it is, just because we're a Western country doesn't mean we don't draw lines in the sand we hope people respect...
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Astenion
Black Dawn Rising
183
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Posted - 2013.02.12 12:32:00 -
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Yes, and the reason why all those cultures don't eat those things is because they're all religious fanatics living in the 18th century.
Britain is not. In Britain, you eat just about anything else, regardless of how it tastes, so why draw the line with horse? |
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Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
491
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Posted - 2013.02.12 14:16:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Yes, and the reason why all those cultures don't eat those things is because they're all religious fanatics living in the 18th century.
Britain is not. In Britain, you eat just about anything else, regardless of how it tastes, so why draw the line with horse?
Because of culture, we have it for some reason or another. We are also disgusted by eating baby seals, Wales, Cats, dogs and a cornucopia of other creatures for a plethora of reasons.
Also i wasn't aware of Hinduism giving rise to many religious fanatics...
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |
Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
1043
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Posted - 2013.02.12 17:24:00 -
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eehrrrm! black pudding. probably the most disgusting idea for a food i've ever heard of being invented.
mmmm! cooked, congealed blood and fat! |
Astenion
Black Dawn Rising
184
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Posted - 2013.02.12 18:46:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Astenion wrote:Yes, and the reason why all those cultures don't eat those things is because they're all religious fanatics living in the 18th century.
Britain is not. In Britain, you eat just about anything else, regardless of how it tastes, so why draw the line with horse? Because of culture, we have it for some reason or another. We are also disgusted by eating baby seals, Wales, Cats, dogs and a cornucopia of other creatures for a plethora of reasons. Also i wasn't aware of Hinduism giving rise to many religious fanatics...
If you don't eat a cow because you believe it's a deity, you're a religious fanatic. You may not be blowing yourself up in town squares, but you're letting a silly belief override common sense. If a vegan or vegetarian found horse meat in what he or she believed was soy, the outrage would be understandable because they are coming from a nutritional and dietary point of view.
Also, I disagree with your hypothesis. We are not disgusted by eating baby seals, whales, cats, or dogs because we think it's disgusting; we are disgusted by eating them because they're cute, cuddly, and/or majestic creatures and because some of them are heading towards the endangered species list. Therefore, I believe this entire business of being appalled over the eating of horse meat comes from an aesthetic and hypocritical point of view: horses are cute, cows are not. You have a problem with eating horses, not out of any nutritional habit or even the taste, but rather because you think they're cute and cuddly. To you, it's ok to eat meat as long as the animal isn't cute or cuddly. Horse meat is better for you than just about anything else consumed in the UK, so just admit to the hypocrisy of this whole farcical outrage against it.
Like I said before, horse meat isn't to my liking simply because it's too strong, although I do enjoy sfilacci. If you're an omnivore disgusted by the thought of eating a horse but have no problems eating a pig or a cow or a chicken, you're a hypocrite. |
Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
1045
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Posted - 2013.02.12 18:53:00 -
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i say cows are cute.
...still eat them though. |
Astenion
Black Dawn Rising
184
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Posted - 2013.02.12 18:55:00 -
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I can devour some veal without a care. I also eat deer, boar, and rabbit. I think it should all be eaten in moderation, however. For example, this whole bacon craze is ridiculous, out of hand, and downright irresponsible. |
Khergit Deserters
703
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:07:00 -
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You'd eat The Black Stallion? My Friend Flicka? Trigger? Silver? I guess that means you'd eat Babe too. Oh wait, we do eat Babe....
But seriously, if people read Temple Grandin's book Animals in Translation: Using the Mysteries of Autism to Decode Animal Behavior they might think twice about eating any domestic animal. The emotional centers of their brains are about as developed as our's are. Then again, our bodies are made to tear, chew and digest meat, so that's my justification for eating animals. That, and the fact that someday something will eat me. [Insert wise Native American statement about interconnectivity of all life on Earth here]. If you help someone when they're in trouble, they will remember you when they're in trouble again.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:08:00 -
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Kirjava wrote: Also I dislike the idea that I'm eating Rainbow Dash Burgers.
Rainbow Dash-burgers probably taste like cotton candy.
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:i say cows are cute.
...still eat them though. Having spent far too much time near cattle, all can say is "Eurgh." They smell, they're dumb, they've got constantly-snotty noses, and they have very limited personalities. Horses, I can relate to. Cows? Not so much. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:11:00 -
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The government are taking it so seriously because its a trade standards issue, beef is more expensive and substituting it for a cheaper product while claiming its beef is illegal. There are public health concerns too, partly because of drugs the horses may have been treated with and also for the fact if a meat supplier is willing to break the law by mislabeling a product who knows if the meat was suitable for human consumption in the first place. |
Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:12:00 -
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Astenion wrote: Like I said before, horse meat isn't to my liking simply because it's too strong, although I do enjoy sfilacci. If you're an omnivore disgusted by the thought of eating a horse but have no problems eating a pig or a cow or a chicken, you're a hypocrite.
I commit what could amount to genocide against these adorable wee bastards.
We don't eat horse, part of the culture take it or leave it, the disgust on peoples faces is evident throughout all this and we were told it was beef. Thus far noone I have talked to gives a damn about the nutritional values of Horse : its still a bloody horse. Haven't I already explained why we historically don't eat horse meat and prefer to let children starve to death in favor of the horse pulling the farms plough in the spring? Yes there's sentimentality in there, but this goes across the spectrum of pets, there's a well defined line between pets and domesticated animals.
Kinda curious as to where you are from, this might purely be a British perspective on meat eating but I'll be damned if I'm going to stop being disgusted by eating horse on the grounds that its eaten on the Continent. I'll eat pretty much anything but there are some things I don't think its possible to get onto anyone's plate regardless of dietary benefits. If its hypocritical to you, I bluntly don't care. I think you'll find that outdated perspectives linger in every culture where its not noticed.
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Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:23:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:the Continent.
*quivers*
i love when brits refer "the Continent." so delightfully foreign to my perspective. |
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Rainus Max
Mine. Mine. C0LD Fusion
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:49:00 -
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Its the same reason we don't eat cats and dogs - they were/are working animals and have been in the UK for, what 2000+ years?
A few hundred years ago if you kill and eat your dog you cant hunt as effectively, killing the cat means you have nothing to hunt the mice who eat the grain. Kill a horse you lose you transport to market, the ability to plough the fields etc. It's old thinking these days but after 2000+ years of thinking that way its fairly engrained in the way we live our lives and these days we have enough variety don't need eat horse so why bother starting?
Why do the continent do it? Not a clue, I would suspect its down to the amount of free space to graze more animals, the UK has always been crowded and older farming techniques would have required far more land devoted to staples like wheat.
Yes we are a nation of animal lovers but so what, if I offered you one of every animal on the planet would you eat every single one? Would you even cross the line and eat a human, after all we are just another animal. If the answer is no to either of those, how would feel if it suddenly turned out it was in your burgers?
Anyway its more about the fact that someone has cut corners and misled us into eating horse, like finding out your chocolate cake is 90% mud.
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:Kirjava wrote:the Continent. *quivers* i love when brits refer "the Continent." so delightfully foreign to my perspective.
UK and Europe are about as similar as chalk and cheese. Not to mention the fact we have fought wars with pretty much every single one of them, latest being the EU Budget |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
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Posted - 2013.02.12 20:24:00 -
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Rainus Max wrote:UK and Europe are about as similar as chalk and cheese. Not to mention the fact we have fought wars with pretty much every single one of them, latest being the EU Budget Who won? Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Rainus Max
Mine. Mine. C0LD Fusion
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Posted - 2013.02.12 20:39:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Rainus Max wrote:UK and Europe are about as similar as chalk and cheese. Not to mention the fact we have fought wars with pretty much every single one of them, latest being the EU Budget Who won?
Depends who you talk to. |
Bernie Nator
4U Services Inc. Talocan United
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As a man who is not overly fond of horses, due to several incidents as a boy, i have only this to say:
Quote:Revenge is a dish best served hot, on a bun.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
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Posted - 2013.02.12 21:05:00 -
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Rainus Max wrote:silens vesica wrote:Rainus Max wrote:UK and Europe are about as similar as chalk and cheese. Not to mention the fact we have fought wars with pretty much every single one of them, latest being the EU Budget Who won? Depends who you talk to. Ain't that always the case, eh? Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Astenion
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.13 15:23:00 -
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My point is simply this: how can you belong to a culture with one of the worst diets in the entire world and simultaneously be disgusted by the thought of eating horse? The question is rhetorical, as you've already answered it by stating it's purely aesthetic. Fine. That's all I wanted to hear. It has nothing to do with nutritional value or even taste, but instead it's purely based on offending your sensibilities. It's just a big contradiction to me. It just adds to the already puzzling nature of British cuisine and eating habits. You have no problem eating kidneys smothered in burned gravy or congealed blood and fat, but horse is too much. It's amusing.
Coming from a culture with one of the worst eating habits in the world (the US) and emigrating to a culture with arguably the best eating habits in the world (Italy), I find this whole outrage hilarious, as even in the US I doubt one would find it such a travesty. Granted, if something claims to be beef, it should be beef, and I myself wouldn't like to find out I've been eating horse instead of beef. However, I'm coming from a position of, "If I'm paying for beef, I want it to be beef" and not "OMG IT'S HORSIES!!!! OH THE POOR DEARS!!!" I would feel the same if it were pork instead of horse.
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Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
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Posted - 2013.02.13 20:00:00 -
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i've eaten many of my own horses that have fallen in combat while roaming around the province of skyrim. i use a realism mod on the game lol...and i'll be damned if i'm going to let 1000 gold coins go to waste. horse is a fine meal. |
Astenion
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.13 20:56:00 -
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I should really apologize for coming across like a total ****. I really suck at politeness on the internet; it's not intentional and not confrontational...I just enjoy debating. I'm like Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory when it comes to personal relationships. |
Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.13 21:11:00 -
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Astenion wrote:I should really apologize for coming across like a total ****. I really suck at politeness on the internet; it's not intentional and not confrontational...I just enjoy debating. I'm like Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory when it comes to personal relationships.
Fair enough, you pushed my buttons better than most which should be taken as a compliment. So my own apologies to you in this case, I think I was a spot militant in my tone
In Britain we were the underdog for over a millennia, Europe's whipping boy in some cases (the people, not the Nobility) and very small amount of land relative to population. I think food was categorised into things that were a productive resource, and for consumption. As was said earlier, dogs protected and herded, horse's pulled the plough and cats protected the grain. We eat the blood pudding, haggis and the rest because what you lose from using the others a resource, you make up for making the rest go further. That's the culture, the splitting of animals into the helper and the food along single creature lines as opposed to which bits of an animal we have. Family tradition I remember being told of from a few generations back was killing a pig in winter and eating the whole thing, no waste over a month. Boil the bones for soup, the skin for leather, ect.
Morbidly curious, but the liver is the best and most nutritiousness part of the animal, what's the problem with it in you're culture?
We aren't outraged about people on the Continent (swoon away my dear) eating Horse, we're outraged that WE are eating horse. I don't believe there's any laws against horse meat in the UK, we just turn our heads in disgust and get on with our day.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:17:00 -
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This story just keeps spreading. And getting worse. Pretty incredible:
http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Britain-finds-horsemeat-in-school-meals-hospitals-4281006.php Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
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Skippermonkey
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:15:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:Ok, horses are fun to ride and all, but I don't get why some people think meat from one animal is OK and another is not.
Hell, if I was starving, I would even eat chicken. And I hate chicken.
How can you hate chicken?
All it tastes of is the sauce its served in COME AT ME BRO
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:47:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Shalia Ripper wrote:Ok, horses are fun to ride and all, but I don't get why some people think meat from one animal is OK and another is not.
Hell, if I was starving, I would even eat chicken. And I hate chicken. How can you hate chicken? All it tastes of is the sauce its served in
Then stop baking them for an hour at 350 F. Slow Roast 3 1/2 hours at 280 F and your opinion will change.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:53:00 -
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McDonalds started this! |
Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.15 22:50:00 -
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Which toy did you get?
Also surprised nones made a comic of this yet...
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:22:00 -
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IMHO the entire world's food distribution system needs a shakeup and overhaul from absolute top to bottom.
Someone is making a fortune and lying to the public, and it's slowly shaping up to the entire world being duped apparently.
http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Mislabeled-fish-a-widespread-problem-4295946.php#photo-4226625
Just wow.
EDIT: just got to the part about "the Ex-Lax fish". Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:39:00 -
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Thing is, Europes integrated market was desighned when people in Africa would get their kids to finish their food as the people in Europe would love it if they could. Just after WW2, if I remember right in the Ukraine they had to have posters reminding parents it was wrong to eat their dead children (it was that bad). This is irrational now as Europe has resumed first world / great power / superpower status depending on your perspective, but the mechanisms exist to make sure Europe never goes hungry again, screw the consequences.
The mechanisms now end up subsidised farmers to simultaneously slightly overproduce (just in case) and keep land fallow (in case its needed for replacing a loss of land due to the Cold War going hot somewhere in the EFTA. Interestingly the proposals to go ahead with developing TAFTA, as a merger of NAFTA and the EFTA would lead to an integrated Transatlantic food market, which could get sticky given the EU perspective on GM foods.
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