Minecraft? Minecraft has risks! You go AFK in minecraft, and some creeper will come along and blow up you AND your house!

I'd suggest WoW, where you have to pay 50 coppers or something to repair your **** every time you die.

most of you seem to not be able to recognize the difference between "buffing low/null" and "killing highsec"!

stop beating around the bush. you cant kill highsec for new people. and you cant deny people a playstyle they like. we are talking about a sandbox here after all. people do whatever the **** they want to do.

i am hardly on just one side here but i do realize that about anything that jamessomething suggests will shut the game down forever.

It's an entirely player-driven economy. The only way to make Spud more profitable if it's more in demand. If it's less than Veld, clearly, it's not needed very badly.

And if he is? You know that goons are just people right? Some goons are good, some are bad. Some are smart, others total f'ing morons. You know, just like the rest of the player base. Sorry, having conversed with a fair number of goons I just flat out don't buy into 'goonspiracy' theories. The ones I met have kids, jobs, lives and seem to have a pretty balanced and fun attitude towards the game. The funny part is that the most intolerant, hateful and judgemental people I have met in this game have all been carebears. Go figure.

Of course, who knows? Maybe we are all alts of The Mittani.

Our population numbers have pretty much stayed the same the past few years. The only reason they've "increased" was because they opened that Chinese server.

Well, here's one thing James could try. Take a fleet down to low and simulate a mining fleet and mining defense fleet give it a week or two and see how it holds up, see if you are able to get your "food chain reaction" going, and if continuously running such fleets is attractive enough for people to stay.Then, based on your actual results, things will be more clear.

Why would PvPers want to mine in lowsec or highsec? I don't see how this would prove anything.

because James himself stated he wants to enchance the "sandbox" statues of this game, and in this sandbox there are indy and mining aspects thats quiet essential to the success. I'm just taking James up to task to prove to us how viable these two aspects of the game would become for all the theoretical stuff he proposed to us. I'm actually quiet interested in the outcome really.

I cringe every time James whats-his-name gets a new thread.

It only adds to the undeserved publicity of this ridiculous "movement" and the idiots involved with it. They aren't effecting any real change in hi-sec, and their fearless leader won't either.

If you minerbumpers want to be taken even semi-seriously, form a corporation so that you can be wardecced. Otherwise, you're just a bunch suicide gankers and scammers who target ships that can't fight back.

Miner bumping by Agents of the New Order and ganking by the Knights of the New Order along with all the clever tactics for boxing in the carebears, the avoidance of war decs, the "invincible" Stabbers are all part of pointing out the ludicrous situation that exists in high sec today.

How to get from this Eve to his vision of Eve is important, it wouldnGÇÖt be in a single vast patch so what is the hierarchy and grouping of these changes going to be as some of them donGÇÖt seem to be able to co-exist

One of you is lying and IGÇÖm going to tell Santa.

Well moon goo would plenty reason enough to move out to null but the powers that be in every large SOV holder put it off limits to the average sheep. Null sec is similar to high sec, but the rats are a hell off a lot tougher along with no concord. Low sec from the POV of a miner just isn't worth the risk. Every good entry in low camped, it is next to impossible to get into a SOV holding Alliance if you are not 100% PVP only pilot. Since mining is only for carebears according to Goonswarm. If any imbalance exist it is because of the big players in EVE politics. If ypu want a perfect example of risk vs reward take a look at WHs. The income potential for taking the leap of faith that moving to a WH requires goes hand and hand with the risk. You Null Power Blocs want to see more people move out to Null or low sec start being a bit more welcoming. Otherwise STFU.

Well, here's one thing James could try. Take a fleet down to low and simulate a mining fleet and mining defense fleet give it a week or two and see how it holds up...

You do realize that there are industrial corps and mining ops happily living their lives in lowsec, right?

Well, James has gone and changed the comment form on Minerbumping. It was the same for like...since it launched. Wonder what brought the change.

i really dont see why everyone s saying high sec is so good for money, i have like what, 100m in total things over 6 months of playing and 10m in my wallet

if you want the carebears to go to null/low more, just maybe consider stopping camping ever other gate and killing everyone instantly?

oh wait its EVE thats never gonna happen, in that case i support the nerfing of highsec until its impossible to make any money and then shoot them all until they ragequit and EVE loses a few hundred thousand carebears and the null/low sec hardcore PVP guys will finally be happy

Or...not. It's back to Atom. That lasted all of 15 minutes. Wonder if the blog is under attack.

i really dont see why everyone s saying high sec is so good for money, i have like what, 100m in total things over 6 months of playing and 10m in my wallet

if you want the carebears to go to null/low more, just maybe consider stopping camping ever other gate and killing everyone instantly?

oh wait its EVE thats never gonna happen, in that case i support the nerfing of highsec until its impossible to make any money and then shoot them all until they ragequit and EVE loses a few hundred thousand carebears and the null/low sec hardcore PVP guys will finally be happy

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GÇóRemove level 4 & 5 agents from High Sec. These agents should operate at the fringe of empire space (low sec); buff the rewards if you must, but have them operate where it makes sense. WHY would a level 4 agent operate out of Funtanainen (2 jumps from Jita) is beyond me. People are farming L4 missions to buy PLEX while sitting in High Sec. Where's the risk vs reward in this?

GÇóRemove all minerals with the exception of veldspar from High Sec. Empire space is where you learn the ropes, not a convenient place to hide and AFK mine, oblivious to the sandbox, farming PLEX while sitting in High Sec. Where's the risk vs reward balance in this?

GÇóRemove all exploration sites (not anomalies, but the ones requiring active probing to be found) from High Sec. The proliferation of carebear explorers is a serious threat to the economy. People are purchasing PLEX sitting in High Sec. Where's the risk vs reward balance in this?

EVE is a sandbox where you can choose to play the game your own way. People may try to enforce their own style onto you, but it still your choice whether you let them do that.

Well said! Just say no to bumptards.