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tgl3
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:18:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:CCP RubberBAND wrote:Sarmatiko wrote: Can you please answer directly: do we have to train skill prerequisites to progress in that skill? To level Freighters V without Advanced Spaceships Command V, or to maximize Command ships V without all those useless links? I dont worry about "you will able to fly" thing. I want to know if I need to maximize skills now to skip useless skills that you introduced as prerequisites for command ships today.
Independent of ships if the skill training requirements change, then yes. In order to train those skills after the expansion hits you will need those skills trained. So for the Fenrir you will need to first have Advanced Spaceship Command at level V before you can start training Minmatar Freighter, but the prerequisite for that skill has changed. this suck. i currently have all the * warfare to III, warfare link specialis IV and Command Ship to 4 this means that even if the skill is injected and already trained up to IV, after the expansion i'll need to get ALL the *Warfare ti V BEFORE i can even resume training the Command Ship V? if yes, this is bullshit As far as I know, as long as the skill is already injected, you can keep training it further. It's the injection of the skill that is affected by the prerequisites. However, I could be wrong, and would appreciate a CCP response on the matter. Member of the EVE Blog Pack - Through Newb Eyes Twitter - TG_3 |
tgl3
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:23:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Many people in situations similar to mine can currently fly the Archon with these skills: BS at V, JDO at 1, and Amarr Carrier at I.....
After this change, I will not be able to fly the Archon, as I wont have JDO V, let alone JFC or JDC
CCP CLEARLY state "if we can fly it today, we can fly it tomorrow.... "
Are you planning to address this?
You will still have the Carrier skill trained, so you can fly the ship. What you may NOT be able to do, is train the Carrier skill further. Member of the EVE Blog Pack - Through Newb Eyes Twitter - TG_3 |
tgl3
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:37:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:tgl3 wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Many people in situations similar to mine can currently fly the Archon with these skills: BS at V, JDO at 1, and Amarr Carrier at I.....
After this change, I will not be able to fly the Archon, as I wont have JDO V, let alone JFC or JDC
CCP CLEARLY state "if we can fly it today, we can fly it tomorrow.... "
Are you planning to address this?
You will still have the Carrier skill trained, so you can fly the ship. What you may NOT be able to do, is train the Carrier skill further. But I do have the carrier skill... and can easily fly EVERY CARRIER In the game simply by training it now..... To put it blatantly.... Today, I CAN FLY any regular carrier in this game.... (although I've only skill trained on the archon). I do NOT have JDO V, let alone JFC or JDC.... With the changes, I could NOT FLY a regular carrier when the skiil changes happen.... This is a direct contradiction to the quote: If you can fly it today, you can fly it tomorrow.... How does CCP plan to address this? If you do not have the other carrier skills trained, then you cannot fly them and therefore would not be able to after the change regardless.
Quote:*Edit* I misread the post above me.... so I could continue to fly the archon.... I just wouldn't be able to further train it until the Correct Member of the EVE Blog Pack - Through Newb Eyes Twitter - TG_3 |
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:34:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:V'Kanth Agalder wrote:GÇ£if you could fly it before, you can fly it nowGÇ¥
Does this apply to command ships as well? I note the added skill requirements - armoured warfare V etc. will these also be given to characters who can currently fly a Damnation but won't be able to after the expansion? Because of the way nested skill requirements work in EVE, skills like Armored Warfare 5 will be required to train the Command Ships skill but if someone has already trained the skill the change will not affect them. So you are actually saying is some ships we can fly now, we won't be able to fly after this mess is implemented. I don't have a real problem with it, since you can't do much with a Damnation without that skill.
Any ships you can fly BEFORE the change (as in you have the skill trained e.g. Command Ships) you can fly after the change. All that is changing is the requirement to inject the skillbook (e.g. injecting Command Ships). If you already have it injected, you are fine. Member of the EVE Blog Pack - Through Newb Eyes Twitter - TG_3 |
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:36:00 -
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Pasha Cracken wrote:
I also would like to ask this. You state that "if you can fly it now you can fly it after" Does this mean that pilots with the bare minimum in skills to fly a archon with NO jump fuel or jump cal trained will get bumped to that level?
No, since you have the Amarr Carrier skill trained/injected already, you do not then need the new pre-requisites to inject it. Because it is already injected. Member of the EVE Blog Pack - Through Newb Eyes Twitter - TG_3 |
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:38:00 -
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Adaahh Gee wrote:tgl3 wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:V'Kanth Agalder wrote:GÇ£if you could fly it before, you can fly it nowGÇ¥
Does this apply to command ships as well? I note the added skill requirements - armoured warfare V etc. will these also be given to characters who can currently fly a Damnation but won't be able to after the expansion? Because of the way nested skill requirements work in EVE, skills like Armored Warfare 5 will be required to train the Command Ships skill but if someone has already trained the skill the change will not affect them. So you are actually saying is some ships we can fly now, we won't be able to fly after this mess is implemented. I don't have a real problem with it, since you can't do much with a Damnation without that skill. Any ships you can fly BEFORE the change (as in you have the skill trained e.g. Command Ships) you can fly after the change. All that is changing is the requirement to inject the skillbook (e.g. injecting Command Ships). If you already have it injected, you are fine. but you cannot train it any higher without first meeting the pre-reqs??? This is the part that is in dispute. As far as I know, you should be able to train it fine since the only check on skills is done on injecting the skillbook, but still waiting on Dev confirmation of this. Member of the EVE Blog Pack - Through Newb Eyes Twitter - TG_3 |
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:39:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I could probably copy and paste the same exact response to every reply in this thread and I'd still be answering their questions. No you can *still* fly the shi- oh, sorry. Member of the EVE Blog Pack - Through Newb Eyes Twitter - TG_3 |
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Posted - 2013.02.07 17:02:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:
You have Amarr Freighter 1 after the change but not Advanced Spaceship Command 5. You can still fly the Providence, but not train Amarr Freighter past 1 until you have Advanced Spaceship Command 5 trained. We are considering changing this so you can still train the skill even after the prerequisites are changed, we'll keep you posted as soon we have an answer. [/list] Please do change it. :( Member of the EVE Blog Pack - Through Newb Eyes Twitter - TG_3 |
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