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Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.07.18 23:48:00 - [1] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/07/2005 23:50:23 [ 2005.07.18 23:41:04 ] Derisor > Actually I have alterior motivations for my posts and flames [ 2005.07.18 23:41:16 ] Derisor > peoplw will see in about 12 months .. lol [ 2005.07.18 23:42:52 ] Derisor > but after that, Im going to... well suffice it to say im going to show why Im collecting all this info ... (What, are you trying to scare people out of 0.0?) [ 2005.07.18 23:43:13 ] Derisor > No, Im trying to scare CCP into rethinking their strat ... (What are you collecting?) [ 2005.07.18 23:43:27 ] Derisor > Info .. tons and tons of info. I love info. [ 2005.07.18 23:43:29 ] Derisor > =) [ 2005.07.18 23:44:14 ] Derisor > Info on whats wrong with eve [ 2005.07.18 23:44:18 ] Derisor > and whats wrong with planetside [ 2005.07.18 23:44:29 ] Derisor > and whats wrong with EQ2, WOW, and Neocron Discuss. -- Want your POS to make money? Call me up. I've designed POSs that make upwards of 50m a day.
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2005.07.18 23:50:00 - [2] I liked Planetside. - Gob
jbob2000	Posted - 2005.07.18 23:50:00 - [3] Um...I don't know whats wrong, but im going to guess that they aren't changing the game cause he said so? ----------------------------------------------- CANADIAN
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.07.18 23:51:00 - [4] Dude, everyone has an agenda & bias when posting on the forums... Derisor is harmless IMO... ------------------------------------------------ Views expressed by this character in no way shape or form reflect the views of M. Corp as a whole.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.07.18 23:51:00 - [5] Originally by: Bhaal Dude, everyone has an agenda & bias when posting on the forums... Derisor is harmless IMO... I know. But I just find the chatlog interesting. -- Want your POS to make money? Call me up. I've designed POSs that make upwards of 50m a day.
Blind Fear	Posted - 2005.07.18 23:52:00 - [6] Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Clementina	Posted - 2005.07.18 23:52:00 - [7] You should tell him there is a difference between raw data and intelligence. and gathering the former without any clue as to how to manufacture the latter really dosn't work.
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2005.07.18 23:52:00 - [8] Derisor is such an idiot that when I see a post of his my eyes glaze over. If he ever wants anybody to give credibility to his posts he needs to argue the issues and not bicker with the people that offer counter arguements.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.07.18 23:58:00 - [9] Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself. ------------------ [WTT: Vigilant]
Winterblink	Posted - 2005.07.19 00:04:00 - [10] Edited by: Winterblink on 19/07/2005 00:04:00 Derisor's strategy has been the same in every forum I've seen him in. He plays a game and finds things that he doesn't like, and then hits the forums to convince developers to change the game to fit his vision of what it should be. There's no shortage of people who try to do this, the same thing goes on in EVE day after day, just like every game forum. The difference with him is, he's like an 8 year old smacking hornet nests with sticks to see the buzz around madly. His opinion is always correct, in his eyes, and he is completely unable to see the logic behind a design choice. Even worse, he's incapable of continuing to discuss or defend his points in a mature manner. ___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie//
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.07.19 00:06:00 - [11] Edited by: Bhaal on 19/07/2005 00:06:50 Quote: Derisor's strategy has been the same in every forum I've seen him in. He plays a game and finds things that he doesn't like, and then hits the forums to convince developers to change the game to fit his vision of what it should be. There's no shortage of people who try to do this, the same thing goes on in EVE day after day, just like every game forum. The difference with him is, he's like an 8 year old smacking hornet nests with sticks to see the buzz around madly. His opinion is always correct, in his eyes, and he is completely unable to see the logic behind a design choice. Even worse, he's incapable of continuing to discuss or defend his points in a mature manner. That's pretty common for most forum posters tbh. We all come here becauase we have a beef about something, and we want something changed, etc... Some are just more irritating than others... ------------------------------------------------ Views expressed by this character in no way shape or form reflect the views of M. Corp as a whole.
F'nog	Posted - 2005.07.19 01:17:00 - [12] Originally by: Bhaal Edited by: Bhaal on 19/07/2005 00:06:50 Quote: Derisor's strategy has been the same in every forum I've seen him in. He plays a game and finds things that he doesn't like, and then hits the forums to convince developers to change the game to fit his vision of what it should be. There's no shortage of people who try to do this, the same thing goes on in EVE day after day, just like every game forum. The difference with him is, he's like an 8 year old smacking hornet nests with sticks to see the buzz around madly. His opinion is always correct, in his eyes, and he is completely unable to see the logic behind a design choice. Even worse, he's incapable of continuing to discuss or defend his points in a mature manner. That's pretty common for most forum posters tbh. We all come here becauase we have a beef about something, and we want something changed, etc... Some are just more irritating than others... Though there are at least some people who listen to others' statements instead of dismissing them out of hand and flaming them for disagreeing with them. I myself have been swayed many times by well-explained arguments. He is simply incapable of this. Originally by: Morela "hey! I'm gonna go attack the north! Afk till tuesday!"
Kerby Lane	Posted - 2005.07.19 01:28:00 - [13] Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Nyphur	Posted - 2005.07.19 01:47:00 - [14] Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself. Oh man, that is the zing of the bloody century! Thank you for giving me a giggle on an otherwise boring day :).
Del Narveux	Posted - 2005.07.19 02:20:00 - [15] Edited by: Del Narveux on 19/07/2005 02:20:19 Bhaal is basically correct, the point of having the forums is because the developers want to know what people think of their product...people will not pay for something that does not appeal to them. All a legion of fanboys would do is lull the devs into thinking they are godlike, only to get caught with their pants down when a rival comes out with something genuinely better. This is a particularly perilous path for CCP because, as a space-based non level-up MMOG, Eve really has no real competition anymore...a new, similar MMOG could totally take them by surprise and could be quite devastating if they dont keep improving theirs. _________________ [SAK] And Proud Of It! aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Subedai	Posted - 2005.07.19 03:25:00 - [16] Originally by: Del Narveux Edited by: Del Narveux on 19/07/2005 02:20:19 Bhaal is basically correct, the point of having the forums is because the developers want to know what people think of their product...people will not pay for something that does not appeal to them. All a legion of fanboys would do is lull the devs into thinking they are godlike, only to get caught with their pants down when a rival comes out with something genuinely better. This is a particularly perilous path for CCP because, as a space-based non level-up MMOG, Eve really has no real competition anymore...a new, similar MMOG could totally take them by surprise and could be quite devastating if they dont keep improving theirs. Man it'd be nice to have a choice as far as spaceship mmo's go but havent heard of anything on the horizon that could compete :/
Sadist	Posted - 2005.07.19 07:01:00 - [17] Edited by: Sadist on 19/07/2005 07:02:08 Originally by: Bhaal That's pretty common for most forum posters tbh. We all come here becauase we have a beef about something, and we want something changed, etc... Some are just more irritating than others... Not really, no. Some just come here to smacktalk and buy things on the sales forum. Sometimes complement a dev, maybe report a bug. And to take part in discussions like these. But mostly for the smack. Sry but in case of eve, my bias is "dont hate the game, hate caldari" (wanted to write "the player" first, then changed mind. --------------- Originally by: Dark Shikari "One Trit to rule them all, One Trit to find them, One Trit to bring them all, and in the veldspar bind them"
Kaell Meynn	Posted - 2005.07.19 07:14:00 - [18] IBTL! :D
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.07.19 08:03:00 - [19] Sup Ragnar [Come to Daddy]
SHINJI AKARI	Posted - 2005.07.19 08:22:00 - [20] Originally by: Winterblink Edited by: Winterblink on 19/07/2005 00:04:00 Derisor's strategy has been the same in every forum I've seen him in. He plays a game and finds things that he doesn't like, and then hits the forums to convince developers to change the game to fit his vision of what it should be. There's no shortage of people who try to do this, the same thing goes on in EVE day after day, just like every game forum. The difference with him is, he's like an 8 year old smacking hornet nests with sticks to see the buzz around madly. His opinion is always correct, in his eyes, and he is completely unable to see the logic behind a design choice. Even worse, he's incapable of continuing to discuss or defend his points in a mature manner. Everyone thinks "their" opinion is right. Thats part of having an opinion. You'll also find that most people are incapable of seeing the logic behind 99% of MMO design desicions. Most people are self serving. They wants whats best for them and them alone usually. The role of an MMO designer is that of a parent to a young child. The child knows what he wants. He wants sweets and junk food, and to take everyone elses stuff and call it his own. Its the parent who has all the information and wisdom who has to control the child for the betterment of the child and of those around him. Example... Child= "I want to be able to make a new BS in 10 minutes from nothing!" Parent= "Now if I let you do that you would run around fighting every second and there would be no industrial side to Eve and you would never have a sense of accomplishment!" However, im kind of shocked that no MMO has yet to institute any kind of democratic voting system. The developers would of course control what was being voted on and would have to limit it to pertinent issues and not allow such things as "Do you want a BS in 10 seconds", but certain questions like "Where would you like programmer prioroties to be", or "Do you think the recent change to xyz module was underpowered, overpowered, or just right?". Their customers would be more than willing to share their opinions, and information is everything in business. Most people would go to the polls section of the website as soon as they got on their computer that day. If you don't know what the customer wants you don't stand a chance in online games. It astounds me that so few companies ask. Then again I suppose this could cause severe backlash, because as ive already stated, people usually want whats best for them, and not whats best for the whole. A talented team could make it work though I think. However I do get tired of the "this is our game" attitude of game companies. Yes, you may have thought it up, and designed it, and everything else, but without all of the customers shelling out their money the game would still be a dream. Gratitude for a customers business doesn't exist much in MMO's, and especially not in Eve. (Not trying to be negative, but compared to say Blizzards friendly "aura" to their customers Eve is more of a "If you don't like it stop playing" sort of attitude. But then again, with this rowdy group of opinionated cowpies I might have that same attitude LOL)
Detvig	Posted - 2005.07.19 08:29:00 - [21] Is this Derisor the same Derisor who was in the EVE Beta? Cheers
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.07.19 08:30:00 - [22] i think trying to make out his gathering data is simply a front to talk up his impact and to try and have an impact on dev decisions he would be more useful on teh ideas and development forums and partaking in the SISI test server. Where feedback is more impacting.
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.07.19 08:40:00 - [23] Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself. ROFL GOLD. that is sooo going into my sig Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
So'Kar	Posted - 2005.07.19 08:47:00 - [24] Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself. Funny and so true
Darkwolf	Posted - 2005.07.19 08:57:00 - [25] Another thing to consider is, if somebody seriously was 'collecting data' for a third source (say, a game mag or something), why would they risk corrupting the quality of that data by letting it slip so obviously they were doing so? Sounds to me like Derisor is just trying to talk himself up. Just like the whole 'communications psychologist' thing earlier. Trying to lend credibility to his statements with claims of credentials that can't be backed up, nor are relevant.
Monty Burns	Posted - 2005.07.19 09:11:00 - [26] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/07/2005 23:50:23 [ 2005.07.18 23:41:04 ] Derisor > Actually I have alterior motivations for my posts and flames ...... snippey snip snip ..... [ 2005.07.18 23:44:29 ] Derisor > and whats wrong with EQ2, WOW, and Neocron Discuss. You actually care? It amazes me people like think they can change the world. Darwin 4tw
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.07.19 09:14:00 - [27] Originally by: Darkwolf Another thing to consider is, if somebody seriously was 'collecting data' for a third source (say, a game mag or something), why would they risk corrupting the quality of that data by letting it slip so obviously they were doing so? Sounds to me like Derisor is just trying to talk himself up. Just like the whole 'communications psychologist' thing earlier. Trying to lend credibility to his statements with claims of credentials that can't be backed up, nor are relevant. Lol I loved the "I'm a psychologist in real life and I have a PhD" thing. Like that single statement was going to make his completely uninformed and ignorant thread valid in some way. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2005.07.19 09:16:00 - [28] I have a biology degree. Does anyone want some breast enhancement? LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Sherkaner	Posted - 2005.07.19 09:36:00 - [29] Please refrain from personal attacks against other players. If you think a player said something that deserves the attention of the GMs or moderators, file a petition or mail [email protected]. forum rules \| [email protected]

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