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Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 21:57:00 -
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mkint wrote:Well, removing ice from highsec would mean more income for the RMTers that control 0.0, the CSM, and possibly certain devs, so yeah, sooner or later it probably will be. However, one of the devs said that they were taking it off the table for now. It'll probably stay off the table until RMT income starts suffering.
ahahahahahahahahaha
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Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 22:29:00 -
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mkint wrote:lol, look at goons attacking my suggestion that there are RMTers on the CSM. Guilty much? attacking is sort of the wrong word I think mocking you and hysterically laughing at you is a more accurate phrase |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 22:48:00 -
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nothing in 0.0 is mined because regular minerals are glutted thanks to the drone regions, so mining a/b/c/m ores in a hulk is less isk/hour than ratting, and isotope ice is a stupendously useless 15% better in 0.0 than highsec so obviously nobody touches that either |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 22:49:00 -
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and like 95% of highsec ice miners are bots |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:11:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Weaselior wrote:and like 95% of highsec ice miners are bots Not sure where the number comes from but seems fair , but how much of that is to fuel 0.0 and how much fuels highsec POS's... Who actually needs the yardstick taken to them? Highsec bears or 0.0 alliances?
I have no idea how I'd go about determining who owns a bot, but I do know that if you wanted to bot and had access to 0.0 you'd make much more money running a ratting bot or something else a lot more profitable. 0.0 buys its fuel in jita, and does not mine ice: it's far better to rat for ten minutes and purchase ice with isk than mine for an hour. |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:13:00 -
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Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote:Weaselior wrote:and like 95% of highsec ice miners are bots You Sir are the bot...everytime bringing up that thesis is just causing me to yawn louder and louder as often i hear this coming from one of you guys from Goons. bringing up the number about saying 95% from ice miners are bots is just laughable if not idiotic at all....sure there are bots...but there are also plenty of players just staying quite in local and only talking with their friends in fleetchat or corpchat while ice harvesting.....and if you blow up one of them, the most of them also stay quite and just warping to the station and dock cause yelling and screaming and cursing at the gankers only fills their egos and many from the miners know about this fact.....and if you think this behauviour makes someone beeing a bot so you are wrong. That said...i brougth it up a bit above, there are many players which come home from a stressfull day at work and just wanted nothing more then just mine / harvest and relax while chatting with their friends.
hi having studied the highsec ice miner extensively (while killing him) and knowing the other people who have studied equally extensively or more, i am the resident expert on the subject and I can assure you that the things are bots
its one thing not to rage in local, it's another to continue mining in the belt as macks explode like clockwork every 15 minutes, ignore local where i announce ganks ahead of time, pod mine, etc |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:15:00 -
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of course, right now gallente ice fields are mostly bot-free as those have been driven out, but if you were to take a stack of brutixes to some other ice space and proceeded to announce in local who you were going to gank, orbiting them in a blockade runner at 500m, then ganking them, then repeating the process for hours on end the only people warping out would be the people without an orca bot who are warping to station (who will come right back) |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:18:00 -
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Andre Jean Sarpantis wrote: LOL So you want to get your iceproduction spoiled by this remove yourselfs....cause i'm pretty sure it was YOUR Master CEO The Mittani who brougth the Hisec ice remove on the table and nobody else.
That's so ironic i'm apparently laughing my bum off cause of this idiotic move and more. Giving the idea to CCP to remove hisec ice and then telling your cheapest resource for Ice products IS currently hisec.......OMG how stupid is that?!
i sincerely doubt mittens came up with the idea of moving it as I doubt he would have remembered ice fields existed unpromped until we started butchering them like swine
we don't mine |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.11 23:23:00 -
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if ice was moved to 0.0 only that'd be pretty rad we could hire worthless pubbies to mine then whip them when they don't make quota |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.12 16:02:00 -
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Ingvar Angst wrote:Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:The ice need to be sepparated in good ice and bad ice, bad ice keeps in high sec, good ice gets in 0.0. This requirs a whole ice belt overhaul witch is easy done with some scripting... There's already "better" ice in null than in high sec.
emphasis on the quotes
0.0 isotope ice is never ever ever worth mining and I don't think the dark glitter stuff that's 0.0 only is either |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.13 12:40:00 -
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Smiley Smile wrote:In a weird way, the Goon campaign is proving that moving ice into null and allowing it to be controlled (like moons) causes prices to skyrocket and access to drop. Why Goons are choosing to make that point is something I don't know, as I'm unsure whether the leadership does or does not want ice to disappear.
It was flagged in the initial announcement (on the gank campaign) as the weakest link in the economy. Proving how fragile it is might bolster the argument to make ice commodities more stable and available - ie, keep it in highsec and maybe expand th number of systems.
I only worry about wormholes if ice were to move to null and be more easily manipulated, as the POS is the core of WH life.
As a WH roamer, though, I like the idea of finding more and more POS that have run out of fuel ;)
everyone, including every ccp employee considering it, knows moving ice to 0.0 would cause prices to increase and access to drop, that would be the point |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.13 12:41:00 -
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really the only argument our campaign makes to ccp is "woo we can have fun with these highsec ice belts" |
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