Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3430
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 13:30:00 -
[31] - Quote
Crumplecorn wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:You don't. Society does. Next............. So if the majority dislikes something, it becomes wrong?
I expect better from Trolls, but whatever.
That is not what was stated at all.
But actually, historically it is quite true. Where have you been ? Mars ? Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
234
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 13:33:00 -
[32] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:But actually, historically it is quite true. So when society deemed slavery ok, slavery was ok?
Calling me a troll won't change the fact that you're talking ****. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
22
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 13:36:00 -
[33] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:Rico Minali wrote:Lets hope not, this is a game geared towards adults after all. what i always find funny is: children think that using "colorful" language, smoking cigarette or drinking beer makes them look like adults.... in my 34 i see quite the opposite situation: very small part of adults use these "attributes of adult". It mostly shows that person is "bottom class citizen". to the topic: i always report offending names and BIOs. It's not that i get offended because of it. But if you don't wash yourself you will not become more clear. You will just collect more dirt. The same can be said about community. Some rules and culture MUST BE cultivated unless we want to become monkeys.
morally you are quite right but what gives you the right to restrict other peoples language in an open space? it also attributes to an adult not to be offended by simplistics such as words and to stand above aggression... and if what you say is true then someone missbehaving towards you is a very usefull tool to you because it shows you who that person is and can be a used against them or help you make choices when selecting your friends.
although i do agree when one makes a comment and the next 20 comments are either inferior and driven by rage or riddled with insults, scrolling through the forums to find valid arguments does become quite a task. |

Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance
260
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 13:48:00 -
[34] - Quote
I actually petitioned a few names for the hell of it to see what would happened, most of them contained racial slurs. They were all changed to ____ Citizen ######. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |

March rabbit
player corp n1
524
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 13:52:00 -
[35] - Quote
Crumplecorn wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:You don't. Society does. Next............. So if the majority dislikes something, it becomes wrong? exactly. in the right society it works this way. wrong ones (like Europe these days) will lose all culture and be replaced by some other culture/society.
Crumplecorn wrote:March rabbit wrote:you will understand it... some day... maybe.... when you leave your childhood in past. And your only response is a poor ad-hominem? I actually expected better. More fool me. well. what do you think about racism? Is it bad or good? Common opinion in USA 50-60 years ago was "racism is normal". These days racism called bad. What changed?
Another example: 100 years ago it was normal for "civilized european countries" to have slavery in Asian/Indian colonies. Last colony was freed 50 or some years ago (with big war resulted in huge casualties). Would it be officially normal these days? I hope it wouldn't. What changed?
Some things is very hard to understand and describe. Personally i don't feel myself able (language adds to this a lot). To really get it you need to look wider, pay attention to details and connect points. Try to find answer to "why racism is bad?" for yourself and you will see - questions like this are not as easy as anyone would want.
|

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
236
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 13:58:00 -
[36] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:Try to find answer to "why racism is bad?" for yourself and you will see - questions like this are not as easy as anyone would want. Racism - on a social and legislative level rather than on a personal level - is bad because it causes actual harm to a group of people with no justification, reducing the wellbeing of society/our species as a whole.
Gee, that was hard. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
22
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 14:02:00 -
[37] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:You don't. Society does. Next............. So if the majority dislikes something, it becomes wrong? exactly. in the right society it works this way. wrong ones (like Europe these days) will lose all culture and be replaced by some other culture/society. Crumplecorn wrote:March rabbit wrote:you will understand it... some day... maybe.... when you leave your childhood in past. And your only response is a poor ad-hominem? I actually expected better. More fool me. well. what do you think about racism? Is it bad or good? Common opinion in USA 50-60 years ago was "racism is normal". These days racism called bad. What changed? Another example: 100 years ago it was normal for "civilized european countries" to have slavery in Asian/Indian colonies. Last colony was freed 50 or some years ago (with big war resulted in huge casualties). Would it be officially normal these days? I hope it wouldn't. What changed? Some things is very hard to understand and describe. Personally i don't feel myself able (language adds to this a lot). To really get it you need to look wider, pay attention to details and connect points. Try to find answer to "why racism is bad?" for yourself and you will see - questions like this are not as easy as anyone would want.
racism is bad because it is a lie. it generalizes cultures to a whole and denies the fact that most people are individuals and judge for them selves every situation anew. to say all europeans are dumb just because you met a couple of (in your opinion) dumb ones would be a very very false thing to say.
so if you are racist, you are stupid. |

bufnitza calatoare
Nex Angelus. Unclaimed.
64
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 14:02:00 -
[38] - Quote
I think the corp name. "Adolf's School of gas oven's" ticker : J00 . would be a great name. |

Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
468
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 14:05:00 -
[39] - Quote
I wish people *wouldn't* report offensive names.
I have found myself in chat channels with people that I really found distasteful on many levels (and anyone who's ever been on my corp TS would know that I'm not the sort to be shocked easily). If their corps/alliances/characters had names to match the opinions of those players I would have had some advanced warning of what to expect, so I would have at least avoided disappointment. http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs |

Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
393
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 14:21:00 -
[40] - Quote
bufnitza calatoare wrote:I think the corp name. "Adolf's School of gas oven's" ticker : J00 . would be a great name.
Now there's a class act.  Nerf Goons
Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure. |
|

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
954
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 14:23:00 -
[41] - Quote
Crumplecorn wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:But actually, historically it is quite true. So when society deemed slavery ok, slavery was ok? Calling me a troll won't change the fact that you're talking ****.
The reality is not so straight forward. See, there is the majority and then their are the powerful. When the majority's and the powerful's ideology coincide then there is change to reflect that. When the majority's and the powerful's ideology are opposed then there is a great chance that the majority will lose the ideological fight.
History is replete with such examples, ancient and contemporary. It is only the rare occasion that the majority's ideology wins out over the powerful's...those times are usually known as revolutions and heads typically roll.
As to slavery, the majority...not being able to afford them, having their jobs taken by them and at great risk to themselves to become one...long ago thought it was bad. It's only in the last 200 - 300 years that the powerful....er...'society' deemed it to be so and therefore rid itself (haha) of slavery. The reality here is, if you live in a society where a great number of jobs only offer enough income to pay for living expenses and in many cases not even, the true question is have we really ended slavery. The answer to that is obviously, no. We're all slaves. The difference in modern times is that our masters had only rid themselves of the liability of ownership. Some of us are lucky enough to be less slavish than others. But, all in all, contemporary western civilization is pretty good for the masses when compared to history. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
236
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 14:28:00 -
[42] - Quote
Mr Kidd wrote:See, there is the majority and then their are the powerful. While this is a nice summary of how/when/why change happens, it has no bearing on whether popularity or might actually make things right.
(They don't) [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Shirehorse
Nex Exercitus Raiden.
3
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 14:30:00 -
[43] - Quote
I think Steven Fry summed it up pretty well.
'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fooking what?' GÇöStephen Fry |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
889
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 14:56:00 -
[44] - Quote
In the four years I've been playing eve, I think I've used the report character name function twice. It's a game, and we're all here to ahve fun, and sometimes, that means being a jackass - just because you can. That said, there are certain lines you shouldn't cross, mostly involving children. The Margin Trading Scam: If you fell for it, it's your own damned fault. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

Gerald Taric
102
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 15:28:00 -
[45] - Quote
TL;DR:
Your name is your figurehead/signboard.
long version:
I use the names and the text in the Bio section of others in order to gues the kind of person the player is or at least want's to be.
Choosing a reasonably name shows some respect towards other players, and (at least for me) indicates, that the player is willing to play this "world simulation" with some more passion than "pew-pew-i-do-not-care-about-any-others".
If the person has chosen a ridiculous or disrespectful name, he or she cannot expect me thinking he or she being a respectable or serious person. (well, maybe that was the goal of that person?)
But as long ad the person did not choosed an really offending name, like for example the name of an mass murdering dictator, something degrading, inhumane, very feculent or hatefull, i just choose to ignore them. As far as i remember i have not reported any name in EVE up to now.
And indeed: It is difficult to determine, what is offending and what is not. This is an international game, played within different societies with different beliefes.
My advice: Just report only those names, which are (in your opinion) really obviously offending - if you think, it should be reported. |

Orbital Dyke
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 15:29:00 -
[46] - Quote
Here to remind everyone this is a game so enjoy it and lighten up |

TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
385
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 16:26:00 -
[47] - Quote
De'Veldrin wrote:In the four years I've been playing eve, I think I've used the report character name function twice. It's a game, and we're all here to ahve fun, and sometimes, that means being a jackass - just because you can. That said, there are certain lines you shouldn't cross, mostly involving children.
Is the line "no few than 600 yards from any preschool,highschool or public play area"? |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
891
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 16:28:00 -
[48] - Quote
TheBlueMonkey wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:In the four years I've been playing eve, I think I've used the report character name function twice. It's a game, and we're all here to ahve fun, and sometimes, that means being a jackass - just because you can. That said, there are certain lines you shouldn't cross, mostly involving children. Is the line "no few than 600 yards from any preschool,highschool or public play area"? Nah, it's defined by a fractal in 4-dimensional space. The Margin Trading Scam: If you fell for it, it's your own damned fault. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3431
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 16:41:00 -
[49] - Quote
Crumplecorn wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:But actually, historically it is quite true. So when society deemed slavery ok, slavery was ok?
It was quite obviously OK by some societies. In fact it still is.
You are confused by the semantics of the words OK and wrong, which are malleable within both sides of any issue.
This is the effect of the downfall of the education system the past few decades folks. Welcome to it. Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3431
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 16:44:00 -
[50] - Quote
Orbital Dyke wrote:Here to remind everyone this is a game so enjoy it and lighten up
The Forums are not the game. Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
|

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4424
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 16:48:00 -
[51] - Quote
i have personally reported offensive names and seen them changed within a week (it is a bad idea to mouth off on the forums with a racist name)
many goons have had their names forcibly changed as well |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4424
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 16:48:00 -
[52] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Orbital Dyke wrote:Here to remind everyone this is a game so enjoy it and lighten up The Forums are not the game. you just say that because you can't play it
the forums are part of the game and one of the ways power is exercised |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3431
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 16:54:00 -
[53] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Orbital Dyke wrote:Here to remind everyone this is a game so enjoy it and lighten up The Forums are not the game. you just say that because you can't play it the forums are part of the game and one of the ways power is exercised
Alrighty, Sir, I'm just gonna block you finally. Don't bother with your crap in the future as I will absolutely not see it. Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4424
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 16:59:00 -
[54] - Quote
i assume you're as good at blocking posts as you are at quitting eve |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
607
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 17:54:00 -
[55] - Quote
After many years in the Internet I cannot be offended by pixels. |

Sol Weinstein
Lunatic Warfare Federation
41
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 18:00:00 -
[56] - Quote
I think typing out "EvE" is offensive, but it isn't going to change anything.
"Offensive" is an arbitrary term. Please stop pushing your beliefs onto other people. We already have two perfectly good words that start with "N" that we cannot use due to peoples' over-sensitivity. No thanks for including more to the list that takes away freedom of speech.
Thank you. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4425
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 18:06:00 -
[57] - Quote
Sol Weinstein wrote:I think typing out "EvE" is offensive, but it isn't going to change anything.
"Offensive" is an arbitrary term. Please stop pushing your beliefs onto other people. We already have two perfectly good words that start with "N" that we cannot use due to peoples' over-sensitivity. No thanks for including more to the list that takes away freedom of speech.
Thank you. freedom of speech is protection against the government
people and corporations cutting ties with you and shunning you is exactly how it's supposed to work |

Sol Weinstein
Lunatic Warfare Federation
41
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 18:07:00 -
[58] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:Sol Weinstein wrote:I think typing out "EvE" is offensive, but it isn't going to change anything.
"Offensive" is an arbitrary term. Please stop pushing your beliefs onto other people. We already have two perfectly good words that start with "N" that we cannot use due to peoples' over-sensitivity. No thanks for including more to the list that takes away freedom of speech.
Thank you. freedom of speech is protection against the government people and corporations cutting ties with you and shunning you is exactly how it's supposed to work
What? |

Ris Dnalor
L'Avant Garde Happy Endings
446
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 18:10:00 -
[59] - Quote
Turelus wrote:It's something most people in EVE see every day, joke character and corps names which really are offensive and shouldn't be there. While I'm the kind of person who doesn't get offended by these names I'm always sure there are those that do, CCP say they don't want them and have the tools for reporting them but I have to ask the player base as a whole... does anyone bother?
I mean all I can imagine is that if I actually file petitions for all the names I saw which shouldn't be there CCP would soon have hundreds of petitions from me.
I bring this up after seeing a corporation being advertised named "Window Lickers. [DWNZ]" and all I can think is yeah... that's pretty close to the line if not already over it in my mind. Does that even count on CCP's level of offensive/rude though?
poop and stuff
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4425
|
Posted - 2013.02.11 18:11:00 -
[60] - Quote
Sol Weinstein wrote:Weaselior wrote:Sol Weinstein wrote:I think typing out "EvE" is offensive, but it isn't going to change anything.
"Offensive" is an arbitrary term. Please stop pushing your beliefs onto other people. We already have two perfectly good words that start with "N" that we cannot use due to peoples' over-sensitivity. No thanks for including more to the list that takes away freedom of speech.
Thank you. freedom of speech is protection against the government people and corporations cutting ties with you and shunning you is exactly how it's supposed to work What? dumbass whining about freedom of speech when people and corporations are shunning you is nonsense
freedom of speech means you don't get thrown in jail not you don't get shunned and despised |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |