It's something most people in EVE see every day, joke character and corps names which really are offensive and shouldn't be there.

What-¦s wrong with licking windows? Lots of kids do that.

Now if that Corp would be called "Widow Lickers."...

Lets hope not, this is a game geared towards adults after all.

That's no reason to toss morality overboard.

The worst of the worst names do seem to get reported, and disappear.

Personally, I grit my teeth and ignore most of the stuff I find offensive, but I have reported a couple of names in the past that I thought were way over the line.

It's all too often that you hear people say "I'm offended by this and that" as if it's their right to live their lives with out offense from others.

It's nothing more than a whine, it's meaningless, pointless and deserves no respect.

If we start making eve into a game where no one gets offended by anything where do we stop? Cut the language? Cut the violence? Cut the drugs?

You're offended? so ******* what? I'm offended by your stupidity, where's my cookie?

It's something most people in EVE see every day, joke character and corps names which really are offensive and shouldn't be there. While I'm the kind of person who doesn't get offended by these names I'm always sure there are those that do, CCP say they don't want them and have the tools for reporting them but I have to ask the player base as a whole... does anyone bother?

I mean all I can imagine is that if I actually file petitions for all the names I saw which shouldn't be there CCP would soon have hundreds of petitions from me.

I bring this up after seeing a corporation being advertised named "Window Lickers. [DWNZ]" and all I can think is yeah... that's pretty close to the line if not already over it in my mind. Does that even count on CCP's level of offensive/rude though?

Lets hope not, this is a game geared towards adults after all.

to the topic: i always report offending names and BIOs. It's not that i get offended because of it.

But if you don't wash yourself you will not become more clear. You will just collect more dirt. The same can be said about community. Some rules and culture MUST BE cultivated unless we want to become monkeys.

. Some rules and culture MUST BE cultivated unless we want to become monkeys.

Then how do you decide what is offensive?

On the whole your post just doesn't make much sense.

you will understand it... some day... maybe.... when you leave your childhood in past.

You don't. Society does. Next.............

you will understand it... some day... maybe.... when you leave your childhood in past.

Monkeys don't start wars

So if the majority dislikes something, it becomes wrong?

But actually, historically it is quite true.

what i always find funny is: children think that using "colorful" language, smoking cigarette or drinking beer makes them look like adults.... in my 34 i see quite the opposite situation: very small part of adults use these "attributes of adult". It mostly shows that person is "bottom class citizen".

to the topic: i always report offending names and BIOs. It's not that i get offended because of it. But if you don't wash yourself you will not become more clear. You will just collect more dirt. The same can be said about community. Some rules and culture MUST BE cultivated unless we want to become monkeys.

So if the majority dislikes something, it becomes wrong?

And your only response is a poor ad-hominem? I actually expected better. More fool me.

Try to find answer to "why racism is bad?" for yourself and you will see - questions like this are not as easy as anyone would want.

exactly. in the right society it works this way.
wrong ones (like Europe these days) will lose all culture and be replaced by some other culture/society.


well. what do you think about racism? Is it bad or good? Common opinion in USA 50-60 years ago was "racism is normal". These days racism called bad. What changed?

Another example: 100 years ago it was normal for "civilized european countries" to have slavery in Asian/Indian colonies. Last colony was freed 50 or some years ago (with big war resulted in huge casualties). Would it be officially normal these days? I hope it wouldn't. What changed?

Some things is very hard to understand and describe. Personally i don't feel myself able (language adds to this a lot). To really get it you need to look wider, pay attention to details and connect points. Try to find answer to "why racism is bad?" for yourself and you will see - questions like this are not as easy as anyone would want.

I think the corp name. "Adolf's School of gas oven's" ticker : J00 . would be a great name.

So when society deemed slavery ok, slavery was ok?

Calling me a troll won't change the fact that you're talking ****.

See, there is the majority and then their are the powerful.

In the four years I've been playing eve, I think I've used the report character name function twice. It's a game, and we're all here to ahve fun, and sometimes, that means being a jackass - just because you can. That said, there are certain lines you shouldn't cross, mostly involving children.

Is the line "no few than 600 yards from any preschool,highschool or public play area"?

So when society deemed slavery ok, slavery was ok?

Here to remind everyone this is a game so enjoy it and lighten up

The Forums are not the game.

you just say that because you can't play it

the forums are part of the game and one of the ways power is exercised

I think typing out "EvE" is offensive, but it isn't going to change anything.

"Offensive" is an arbitrary term. Please stop pushing your beliefs onto other people. We already have two perfectly good words that start with "N" that we cannot use due to peoples' over-sensitivity. No thanks for including more to the list that takes away freedom of speech.

Thank you.

freedom of speech is protection against the government

people and corporations cutting ties with you and shunning you is exactly how it's supposed to work

It's something most people in EVE see every day, joke character and corps names which really are offensive and shouldn't be there. While I'm the kind of person who doesn't get offended by these names I'm always sure there are those that do, CCP say they don't want them and have the tools for reporting them but I have to ask the player base as a whole... does anyone bother?

I mean all I can imagine is that if I actually file petitions for all the names I saw which shouldn't be there CCP would soon have hundreds of petitions from me.

I bring this up after seeing a corporation being advertised named "Window Lickers. [DWNZ]" and all I can think is yeah... that's pretty close to the line if not already over it in my mind. Does that even count on CCP's level of offensive/rude though?

What?

So when society deemed slavery ok, slavery was ok?

Calling me a troll won't change the fact that you're talking ****.

dumbass whining about freedom of speech when people and corporations are shunning you is nonsense

freedom of speech means you don't get thrown in jail not you don't get shunned and despised

Lets hope not, this is a game geared towards adults after all.

Let me fill that out a bit.

Geared towards adults that are fascinated by bodily functions and believe that being a sociopath is the new normal. Adults who failed grade two English, yet mange to remember every stat for every ship set up in the game. Adults that feel they are omnipotent because they are anonymous. Adults that think offering pain is better than altruism. Adults that feel sunlight is a tool of the devil and real life socializing will give them cooties.

In short, adults to which adult behavior is a foreign concept.

Mr Epeen

You are confused by the semantics of the words OK and wrong, which are malleable within both sides of any issue.

This is the effect of the downfall of the education system the past few decades folks. Welcome to it.

I think that this is quite an interesting point.

When society deemed slavery to be OK, it was OK by definition. Society, at that time and place in history, decided that it was ok to own another person.

Later, we decided that it was no longer acceptable to own other people, driven by a change in what each society felt was morally acceptable. As each society reached that point, they stopped, which is why slavery didn't stop simultaniously across the world.

What was morally acceptable 250 years ago, isn't acceptable today. You cannot apply your morality to a different point in time, in the same way you cannot apply it universally across different cultures, or even segments of your own society.

For example, if you have two people, each does the same job for the same firm, at the same wage. One is an employee and has access to the benefits that confirs. One is a long term temp and has no access to the benefits. Is the employer morally wrong?

In purely capitalist society the answer is no - they are giving themselves flexiblity in their hiring and firing, and preserving shareholder value. In a purely socialist society the answer is yes - they are abusing the rights of the long term temp to reduce their financial liability and curtailing the workers rights.

Which society is right?

Quite a articulate way of saying nothing.

Here to remind everyone this is a game so enjoy it and lighten up

It's something most people in EVE see every day, joke character and corps names which really are offensive and shouldn't be there.

I see nobody's mentioned this, so I'm dropping by with a reminder. Names are not changed because they're offensive to one player or another. They are changed by a GM applying/interpreting the name policy of Eve Online. No more, no less.

It must be awfully tiring going through life looking for things to be offended by.

[A game] Geared towards adults that are fascinated by bodily functions and believe that being a sociopath is the new normal. Adults who failed grade two English, yet mange to remember every stat for every ship set up in the game. Adults that feel they are omnipotent because they are anonymous. Adults that think offering pain is better than altruism. Adults that feel sunlight is a tool of the devil and real life socializing will give them cooties.

In short, adults to which adult behavior is a foreign concept.

If any parent around lets their kids play Eve it's not CCP you should blame but those irresponsible parents, maybe give them some professional phone number to learn their job and stop complaining it's never their fault.

Advertisement says it's not for kids and sensible souls, they can also choose to not play but if they do they can just STFU.

does anyone actually believe krixtal has the self-control not to click on "see this post" for every poster he supposedly blocks

It's something most people in EVE see every day, joke character and corps names which really are offensive and shouldn't be there. While I'm the kind of person who doesn't get offended by these names I'm always sure there are those that do, CCP say they don't want them and have the tools for reporting them but I have to ask the player base as a whole... does anyone bother?

I mean all I can imagine is that if I actually file petitions for all the names I saw which shouldn't be there CCP would soon have hundreds of petitions from me.

I bring this up after seeing a corporation being advertised named "Window Lickers. [DWNZ]" and all I can think is yeah... that's pretty close to the line if not already over it in my mind. Does that even count on CCP's level of offensive/rude though?

If any parent around lets their kids play Eve it's not CCP you should blame but those irresponsible parents, maybe give them some professional phone number to learn their job and stop complaining it's never their fault.

Advertisement says it's not for kids and sensible souls, they can also choose to not play but if they do they can just STFU.

No. You just want a 'reaction'.

So you'll get one in the form of a Block.

Congratulations.

Type away but from now on I won't see your brainless nonsense.

Spacef*** was only a day old when he got switched to Amar Citizen.

I vaguely remember reporting that one.

EDIT: Also, learn to spell Ammar.

Hold on while I roleplay an amar fury (no one cares).

It's something most people in EVE see every day, joke character and corps names which really are offensive and shouldn't be there. While I'm the kind of person who doesn't get offended by these names I'm always sure there are those that do, CCP say they don't want them and have the tools for reporting them but I have to ask the player base as a whole... does anyone bother?

I mean all I can imagine is that if I actually file petitions for all the names I saw which shouldn't be there CCP would soon have hundreds of petitions from me.

I bring this up after seeing a corporation being advertised named "Window Lickers. [DWNZ]" and all I can think is yeah... that's pretty close to the line if not already over it in my mind. Does that even count on CCP's level of offensive/rude though?

If you find "Window Lickers" offensive is there anything you don't find offensive?

Learn like myself to detect when someone is Trolling, no matter how lame an attempt it is.

I only report self-righteous people.

It's hard to tell. Sometimes you think someone was trolling and it turns out they really were just that ignorant/stupid.

"While I'm the kind of person who doesn't get offended by these names"


"I bring this up after seeing a corporation being advertised named "Window Lickers. [DWNZ]" and all I can think is yeah... that's pretty close to the line if not already over it in my mind."

Really? REALLY? It took you only one paragraph to call yourself out on your blatant lie, thus proving you ARE the sort of pansy that is offended by every little thing?

There is absolutely nothing racist, homophobic, or vulgar about the name Window Lickers. I am not only appalled, but frankly insulted, to be playing a game that advertises itself as dark, hard, cold, and adult oriented, with such a whiny little schoolmarm.

Seriously, please, just uninstall your accounts and go back to nursing your infant children, Mommy-9-1-1, before my head explodes.

What-¦s wrong with licking windows? Lots of kids do that.

...

you will understand it... some day... maybe.... when you leave your childhood in past.

....more like when they leave the parent's basement, neckbeard and all.

Ahh the joys of EVE where you can kill,enslave,scam and generally be the scum of the known and unknown universe but god forbid you choose a name that offends someone.

One word for you ...pathetic.

Problem with the world today everyone is offended by everything, grow up get some balls or flaps (whichever is the female equivilent) and enjoy life and stop worrying about something that in reality doesn't effect you one bit apart from your self inflated sense of importance and outrage.

Really who give's a toss if you're offended? Why should it matter to me that you/someone is offended by a statement I have made?

For two people claiming to live by the rules of society and wanting to rule by the majority; you sure are offensive with your insults to other people simply for disagreeing with you.

You do know such random insults and incivility is considered rude and offensive in our society, right?

what i always find funny is: children think that using "colorful" language, smoking cigarette or drinking beer makes them look like adults.... in my 34 i see quite the opposite situation: very small part of adults use these "attributes of adult". It mostly shows that person is "bottom class citizen".

to the topic: i always report offending names and BIOs. It's not that i get offended because of it. But if you don't wash yourself you will not become more clear. You will just collect more dirt. The same can be said about community. Some rules and culture MUST BE cultivated unless we want to become monkeys.

Really? REALLY? It took you only one paragraph to call yourself out on your blatant lie, thus proving you ARE the sort of pansy that is offended by every little thing?

There is absolutely nothing racist, homophobic, or vulgar about the name Window Lickers. I am not only appalled, but frankly insulted, to be playing a game that advertises itself as dark, hard, cold, and adult oriented, with such a whiny little schoolmarm.

Seriously, please, just uninstall your accounts and go back to nursing your infant children, Mommy-9-1-1, before my head explodes.

Lets hope not, this is a game geared towards adults after all.