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Tracy Han
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.11 19:45:00 -
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Ok, I recently encountered an incident of racism in System Local chat.
I found the language used racist and entirely offensive, so I petitioned it.
I immediately (fastest petition reply I have every received) got a message back to say it would be investigated, no feedback would be given and the petition was closed.
Having just seen the 'person' (used lightly) fly through local, I can only assume that the 'person' received nothing more than a slap on the wrists and a thank you for continuing to subscribe.
I guarantee I'd get more of a punishment if I named and shamed the 'person' though.
I don't expect people to name and shame, but am I the only one to feel that this persistent problem is not met with a harsh and public punishment?
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Hixeppa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.11 19:46:00 -
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Or maybe what you call racism, isn't. |

Whitehound
730
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Posted - 2013.02.11 19:48:00 -
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I have just climbed out of my time machine. What time is it now?
Is it before or after the Old Testament?
Please let me know so I can start forgiving again. SCAM CAT - Titan Jump - I was there - Goon Dog |

Tracy Han
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.11 19:48:00 -
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How does everyone else feel about the 'N' word?
I appreciate that between friend it does not carry the same meaning, but when used in Local, where you do not know who is present, it is offensive. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13994
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Posted - 2013.02.11 19:49:00 -
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Sounds like you have a clear cut case...... to the forums>>>>>
Vote Malcanis for CSM 8 |

handige harrie
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.11 19:51:00 -
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Tracy Han wrote:How does everyone else feel about the 'N' word?
I appreciate that between friend it does not carry the same meaning, but when used in Local, where you do not know who is present, it is offensive.
In local you know exactly who is present, unless you were in a Wormhole. Baddest poster ever |

Tracy Han
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.11 19:53:00 -
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handige harrie wrote:
In local you know exactly who is present, unless you were in a Wormhole.
Seeing you can tell who is the 18 year old girl from the 50 year old guy from a list of names, any chance of this weekends lottery numbers? |

handige harrie
Hedion University Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2013.02.11 19:56:00 -
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Tracy Han wrote:handige harrie wrote:
In local you know exactly who is present, unless you were in a Wormhole.
Seeing you can tell who is the 18 year old girl from the 50 year old guy from a list of names, any chance of this weekends lottery numbers?
You can take any valid number you want and have a 1 in 2 chance of getting a price. Baddest poster ever |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1074
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Posted - 2013.02.11 19:57:00 -
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Tracy Han wrote:How does everyone else feel about the 'N' word?
I appreciate that between friend it does not carry the same meaning, but when used in Local, where you do not know who is present, it is offensive. From what I understand, people who use such language would get a "gag order" if petitioned. Such a "gag order" would last a half hour or so for the first offense, and escalate after that (to eventual banning, I assume). If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |

Mire Stoude
Antelope with Night Vision Goggles
97
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Posted - 2013.02.11 19:58:00 -
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Tracy Han wrote:How does everyone else feel about the 'N' word?
I appreciate that between friend it does not carry the same meaning, but when used in Local, where you do not know who is present, it is offensive.
November is not racist. |
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Hannah Flex
laissez-faire economics
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:00:00 -
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Tracy Han wrote:Having just seen the 'person' (used lightly) fly through local, I can only assume that the 'person' received nothing more than a slap on the wrists and a thank you for continuing to subscribe
Obviously first time offenders receive a warning. I do not know what happens with repeated offenders. What would you like them to do? Banhammer someone instantly for offending your delicate sensibilities?
Oh, and welcome to the internet- you must be new here
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Whitehound
730
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:00:00 -
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Tracy Han wrote:How does everyone else feel about the 'N' word? I wish I could use it, because sometimes there is a use for it. I give you an example:
A black fella who lived in my house constantly drank and played loud music, day and night. he did not really live there, had a girl friend who he stayed with, and only came to his room to party.
I asked him a few times to turn it down when he asked me: "Are you a racist?"
He was drunk, not listening at all and obviously tried to make a joke.
I said "I hope not!", but I really wanted to ask him back: "Are you a N******??"
It would have been the right response, only it is not appropriate to use the N-word. SCAM CAT - Titan Jump - I was there - Goon Dog |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2034
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:01:00 -
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What would OP deem as the necessary 'Harsh and Public Punishment'? Would you like the ISDs to warp in, drag them out of station in their most expensive ship, announce in local for everyone to warp to the station, and then publicly execute them because they used a naughty in local? Id tell OP to HTFU...but id probably get petitioned. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Tracy Han
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:01:00 -
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Karl, if you are right, then this falls right into my 'slap on the wrists' category. You get banned for botting and muted for half an hour for racism. That is balanced.
Mire, lol, you innocent little thing! |

Tracy Han
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:06:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:What would OP deem as the necessary 'Harsh and Public Punishment'? Would you like the ISDs to warp in, drag them out of station in their most expensive ship, announce in local for everyone to warp to the station, and then publicly execute them because they used a naughty in local? Id tell OP to HTFU...but id probably get petitioned.
Whoa there, I was thinking more along the lines of naming them, and banning them for 1 - 2 weeks....
but now you mention it, public floggings outside Jita would be an improvement on the local scams. |

Arduemont
Tempest Legion
1213
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:07:00 -
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It works on a strike system. They will get a slap on the wrist, sure... If they do it again that slap might cost them a hand.
Sorry, couldn't help myself. I quite like terrible metaphors ^^
Racism does get punished. I've gone ape **** at someone in my alliance who started yelling racist stuff in local. He of course argued back, so I AWOXed him... Twice. Alliance leadership took my side, and then they AWOXed him, and then kicked him from his corp. We then proceeded to camp him into the station so he couldn't get his stuff out. Eventually he tried to make a mad dash in a cloaky Transport ship. We caught him and destroyed everything he owned in nullsec. It was awesome. It is easily the best I have every felt about doing something that could even be labelled griefing.
CCP should be harsher on racism I think. Especially the more obvious examples of it. But frankly, if someone is being a ****, then get them killed. A whole load of times. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Tracy Han
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:08:00 -
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Hannah Flex wrote:
Obviously first time offenders receive a warning. I do not know what happens with repeated offenders. What would you like them to do? Banhammer someone instantly for offending your delicate sensibilities?
Oh, and welcome to the internet- you must be new here
Nope, been here a while, but was obviously brought up with different standards if that sort of language makes me 'delicate'. |

Skorpynekomimi
416
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:10:00 -
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HTFU, amarr scum. I have far bigger concerns than someone's hypothetical skin colour.
You don't know anything about racism anyway. You've never been enslaved, or repressed. You don't know what it's like to be looked down on by a quarter of the galaxy just because of where you were born. |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1074
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:11:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Racism does get punished. I've gone ape **** at someone in my alliance who started yelling racist stuff in local. He of course argued back, so I AWOXed him... Twice. Alliance leadership took my side, and then they AWOXed him, and then kicked him from his corp. We then proceeded to camp him into the station so he couldn't get his stuff out. Eventually he tried to make a mad dash in a cloaky Transport ship. We caught him and destroyed everything he owned in nullsec. It was awesome. It is easily the best I have every felt about doing something that could even be labelled griefing. Peer pressure is awesome stuff. If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
967
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:13:00 -
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If anyone was to use the 'N' word to a good friend of mine in real life, they would find that their visit to A&E is proof that the safest place to use such words in on the internet. This is not a signature. |
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Hixeppa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:13:00 -
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Arduemont wrote: Racism does get punished. I've gone ape **** at someone in my alliance who started yelling racist stuff in local. He of course argued back, so I AWOXed him... Twice. Alliance leadership took my side, and then they AWOXed him, and then kicked him from his corp. We then proceeded to camp him into the station so he couldn't get his stuff out. Eventually he tried to make a mad dash in a cloaky Transport ship. We caught him and destroyed everything he owned in nullsec. It was awesome. It is easily the best I have every felt about doing something that could even be labelled griefing.
Typical nullsec alliance levels of camraderie. Any excuse to **** someone over, blue or not. |

Tracy Han
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:13:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote: Peer pressure is awesome stuff.
Shame you wouldn't get the same 'free pass' irl. |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1075
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:15:00 -
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Tracy Han wrote:Karl Hobb wrote: Peer pressure is awesome stuff.
Shame you wouldn't get the same 'free pass' irl. What? If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |

Tracy Han
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:17:00 -
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Deal with things with vigilante mob justice. |

Arduemont
Tempest Legion
1214
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:18:00 -
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Hixeppa wrote: Typical nullsec alliance levels of camraderie. Any excuse to **** someone over, blue or not.
Are you saying that racism shouldn't be punished so harshly? Or are you saying that it is okay if your alliance members are racist? Or perhaps your saying that racism is okay altogether.
Racist deserve it. If racists were a race, I would commit racism... but only... wait... "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

ArmyOfMe
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
136
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:22:00 -
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Niggah please Suleiman Shouaa> And you still think you're taking risks? NightmareX> I do. I take risks every day. But i do whatever i can to make sure i'm not ending up in a loss.
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Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1075
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:22:00 -
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Tracy Han wrote:Deal with things with vigilante mob justice. Yes, well, IRL you don't have the option to camp someone into their house and then kill them when they come out (well, you do, but the penalties are much stiffer). There are plenty of non-violent solutions, however.
Video Game =/= Real Life. If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |

Desmond Strickler
Helghan Imperial Armada Apocalypse Now.
5
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:24:00 -
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Is racism punished in the real world? No. So get over it. |

Kate stark
95
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:26:00 -
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"the bad man on the internet called me a name!"
honestly, really? |

Aracimia Wolfe
Fade To Darkness
171
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Posted - 2013.02.11 20:27:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Tracy Han wrote:Deal with things with vigilante mob justice. Yes, well, IRL you don't have the option to camp someone into their house and then kill them when they come out (well, you do, but the penalties are much stiffer). There are plenty of non-violent solutions, however. Video Game =/= Real Life.
Most of the time Concord turns up before the gank. for a start.
Also it's just a game. Racism is something I inherently abhor, but I tend to block offensive people. Not that I'm easily offended. Malcanis for CSM 8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717 \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ m8m8m8m8m8m8m8 o7
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