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Arydanika
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
285
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Posted - 2013.03.31 15:31:00 -
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Congratulations reaching the qualifying number of endorsements and good luck on the final ballot. It's going to be a very interesting election this year and it's just getting started.
Thank you for appearing on the second Voices from the Void CSM 8 candidate panel. It was a n insightful discussion and your participation is appreciated. Your current and future supporters can find the episode by going to this link. It was a pleasure to have you on the Voices podcast and I hope to have you back again soon. Good luck in the upcoming final election. Runner of Voices from the Void podcast, Eve Online Pod Pack & DJ on eve-radio.com Sundays at 1800.-á Organizer of the ATX Eve Online Meet. GÖÑ |

Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Caldari Industrialist Association
13
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Posted - 2013.04.01 08:13:00 -
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Unforgiven Storm wrote:...If you live of PI, Moon Mining and reactions, if you set up an invention POS and live of research and T2 invention, if you manufacture something: IGÇÖm the perfect candidate for you to vote for, I know and share your problems. I will fight for you, I will fight for us and our common interests!... I listened to your interview on crossing zebras... you do sound like someone who will advocate on behave on industrialists. I will bring your interview to the attention of people in my corp and alliance. Good luck. |

Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
2801
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Posted - 2013.04.01 11:17:00 -
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Unforgiven Storm will be on my recommended ballot.
Pre-Election has begun! Click to endorse Trebor for CSM8 * Candidate thread * CSM Blog |

Frying Doom
2093
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Posted - 2013.04.02 03:13:00 -
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At this time I would like to ask the candidates to think carefully about any endorsements that they give.
By putting other candidates on your ballot you are effectively giving them any excess votes you may have if you become elected or all of your votes if you are knocked out of the election.
So the choice of who you endorse and in what order you endorse them on your proposed ballot is very important.
Remember that these people are voting for you and a lot of people will rely on your proposed ballot.
We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault. Stupid Signature Broke
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Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
279
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Posted - 2013.04.02 10:22:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:At this time I would like to ask the candidates to think carefully about any endorsements that they give.
By putting other candidates on your ballot you are effectively giving them any excess votes you may have if you become elected or all of your votes if you are knocked out of the election.
So the choice of who you endorse and in what order you endorse them on your proposed ballot is very important.
Remember that these people are voting for you and a lot of people will rely on your proposed ballot.
Personally I will endorse a few people that I think are will be excellent CSM Members and will help this game become better.
I'm not going to suggest an order and this list is my personal list, not something I want others to follow blindly.
I think that everybody should have free will and should choose its candidates and the order they want them in their list and not follow other people lists just because. One thing I hate is having people tell me what to do, I like to think for myself.
I like to read what others have to say, who they endorse and why. Most of the times they raise issues I missed, sometimes those opinions clarify issues I have. They bring to the table different perspectives that helps me build a better and more complete opinion about candidates and that is always good.
The final word about who to put in the list and the order belongs to the voter not the candidate they support in first place. Official CSM 8 Campaign HQ * Unforgiven Storm for CSM8 * My Blog
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Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
290
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:17:00 -
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Today CCP announced the list of planned POS iterations for Odyssey.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/odyssey-summer-expansion-starbase-iterations
These are changes clearly pointed at the wormhole community and the industrialist community is once again ignored and have to wait until the next Expansion.
Maybe In The Next ExpansionGäó
IGÇÖm sorry but IGÇÖm not going to share the joy and go to the party tonight.
This is why we need an Industrialist in the CSM to help level out these fixes when they happen and help spread the love for all types of game play.
These changes are pretty underwhelming for an industrialist and anyone who says the contrary never moon mined, done reactions or refined anything in a POS his entire life!
The industrialists only get one fix, they will be able to access any array inside the shield. All other main problems that the industrialists have, still remain to be addressed, for example:
- The fact we have to disconnect silos every time we need to access them. When can someone fix this and spare us all the clicking?
- The refining arrays suck. When can the penalties be removed? When the UI and functionality can be improved?
- The advanced ship assembly arrays sucks. When can the penalties be removed so we can manufacture hulls in a POS?
- Where is the moon mining and reactions UI fixes? For example where can I have an Apply button that changes color when I
- have changes that arenGÇÖt applied or when can I get a warning if I try to leave this window without applying the changes? Also when can I have different signs and colors when I have silos or reactors online / offline?
- Where is a centralized input / output hangar for labs? Why can the tower be the central access location for all hangars, and the modules just increase the available size?
I donGÇÖt ask for much for the summer expansion, just these bare minimum fixes, so we, the Industrialists, arenGÇÖt once again discriminated for one more expansion. Official CSM 8 Campaign HQ * Unforgiven Storm for CSM8 * My Blog
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Madeline Amelana
Mixotroph Industry and Tech.
1
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:41:00 -
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I have a quick question, which I hope you do not think is rude, because that is by no means the intention of it.
As you are through to the next round, where we have to select a number of candidates based on our order of preference, I was wondering if you could clarify the following for me:
You stated that you are a non-bloc candidate, and I realise you are running as an independent, however, you are a member of Goonswarm Federation, and as such, have the potential to be included on their bloc listing.
I intend to vote so that the non-bloc candidates which I support have the highest listings on my preferences (In all honesty, there are not many industrial candidates, so you will be fairly near the top either way), so I was wondering if you could let us know whether you are aware if you are on the bloc-voting list. I know there are many many null focused candidates, so it could be that you are way down their listing due to your lower focus on PvP/Sov.
I apologise for the crappy way in which I am phrasing this question, but, basically, I want to ensure that my votes are as useful as possible, and if you are already a shoe-in, then whilst I will still have you fairly high on my list, I would prefer my first few place votes to go to others, so that we get the most versatile CSM possible.
This sounds like I am not going to vote for you, that is not the case, I very much like your platform, but want to ensure the other indy or new player or whatever non-pvp/SOV candidates get a decent look-in.
God I suck at posting.
Thanks in advance for your answer,
Madeline |

Apricot Baby
caldariprimeponyclub
52
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:43:00 -
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The Caldari Prime Pony Club endorses this product and/or service.
Goodluck! CSM Participation Reward Program - www.tinyurl.com/caldariprimeponyclub Earn rewards for taking part in this year's CSM Elections |

Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
292
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Posted - 2013.04.03 12:14:00 -
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Madeline Amelana wrote:I have a quick question, which I hope you do not think is rude, because that is by no means the intention of it.
As you are through to the next round, where we have to select a number of candidates based on our order of preference, I was wondering if you could clarify the following for me:
You stated that you are a non-bloc candidate, and I realise you are running as an independent, however, you are a member of Goonswarm Federation, and as such, have the potential to be included on their bloc listing.
I intend to vote so that the non-bloc candidates which I support have the highest listings on my preferences (In all honesty, there are not many industrial candidates, so you will be fairly near the top either way), so I was wondering if you could let us know whether you are aware if you are on the bloc-voting list. I know there are many many null focused candidates, so it could be that you are way down their listing due to your lower focus on PvP/Sov.
I apologize for the crappy way in which I am phrasing this question, but, basically, I want to ensure that my votes are as useful as possible, and if you are already a shoe-in, then whilst I will still have you fairly high on my list, I would prefer my first few place votes to go to others, so that we get the most versatile CSM possible.
This sounds like I am not going to vote for you, that is not the case, I very much like your platform, but want to ensure the other indy or new player or whatever non-pvp/SOV candidates get a decent look-in.
God I suck at posting.
Thanks in advance for your answer,
Madeline I don't have access or talk with leadership of my alliance. Any information I have is by talking with one of my corp directors, he is my point of contact when I have questions. I only talk with him 3 times about my candidacy, one was when I decided to run, I didn't want to cause a problem to my corp so I ask them if it was ok, if the alliance will not create them problems.
I got the green light, I was told that my alliance didn't care about me I can do whatever I wanted but I was on my own, I cannot use the alliance name or count on them for nothing.
Second contact was last week, my director contact me and told me there was going to be created a NULL sec list and I had no place on it, I wasn't an official null sec candidate and The Mittani hates industrialists, he even post that 2 days ago:
http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/88
Quote:Ignore Industrialists: In an alliance or corporation, industrialists are completely irrelevant and should never be allowed a voice in anything. Sound extreme? It isnGÇÖt. An industrialist is not a logistician, but a GÇÿproducerGÇÖ. Producers live in hisec in countless numbers, and anything that is built there can simply be imported from Jita with a jump freighter - by a logistician. Logisticians matter in alliances; so do financiers, diplomats, and most of all warriors. Producers do not. There has never been a war in the history of EVE which was won by an advantage in local production; the hobbits of ASCN believed their own propaganda and assured each other that production mattered, but they were crushed utterly by Band of Brothers. Take after the words of House Greyjoy: GÇÿWe Do Not SowGÇÖ. Be particularly wary of capital/supercapital producers, who are often wealthy and consider themselves to be above alliance rules. Alliances have no need of GÇÿindustrial wingsGÇÖ, GÇÿindustrial directorsGÇÖ - none of it.
My last contact was on 1st April, my director told me that the alliance wasn't supporting some 0.0 candidate for whatever reason and 1 spot between the 10 and 14th place in the list had open and they were considering putting me there to close the hole. Now I have to say I don't know if he as pulling a prank on me or not, but even if it is true, being in that spot, 10th or lower will make no difference...
If that happens I will not be in a position that gives me any vote at all.
I run as an independent, my alliance doesn't support me. My platform is industry, my love is industry, I want the best for all. I want to fight and defend industry in the CSM, I don't care if it is high-sec, low-sec or null-sec. Official CSM 8 Campaign HQ * Unforgiven Storm for CSM8 * My Blog
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Madeline Amelana
Mixotroph Industry and Tech.
1
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Posted - 2013.04.03 12:19:00 -
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Thank you for your very frank reply, it answers my query and concerns perfectly.
I look forward to voting for you very soon! |

Bantara
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
27
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Posted - 2013.04.03 14:58:00 -
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Unforgiven Storm wrote:I don't have access or talk with leadership of my alliance. Any information I have is by talking with one of my corp directors, he is my point of contact when I have questions. I only talk with him 3 times about my candidacy, one was when I decided to run, I didn't want to cause a problem to my corp so I ask them if it was ok, if the alliance will not create them problems. (...) Man, I know sov null-sec is serious spaceship biz, but I'd be f-ing leaving if I got devalued like that. Don't know why you put up with it.
Either way, industrialists *do* matter, they should have a voice, and I'm putting you somewhere in my top 2-5.
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Mhax Arthie
Pagan INC 9th Company
47
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Posted - 2013.04.03 17:44:00 -
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Unforgiven Storm wrote:... and The Mittani hates industrialists, he even post that 2 days ago: ...
I run as an independent, my alliance doesn't support me. My platform is industry, my love is industry, I want the best for all. I want to fight and defend industry in the CSM, I don't care if it is high-sec, low-sec or null-sec. You guys should put again a funky hat on Mittani, give him some alcohol and send him loose on the fanfest, so we can have some quality time again. I'm sure you will have a lot of votes from the big boys in your alliance and also from others in null sov just because null industry need some serious fixes. And I had read some very good ideas posted by goons regarding how to fix the null-low sec industry and I would love to see those ideas go live. Goons know stuff, maybe much better than others. |

Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
93
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Posted - 2013.04.03 17:53:00 -
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By your reply in post 70 made me wonder why on earth you are in that alliance still?
As an industrialist you should be more than able to find a better home, or even go solo and socialize and network as an independent. If you end up with an actual seat on CSM your risking a sudden love shower of attention from you ralliance..
I was just wondering if you should not cut your ties before the next round of election at least if nothing else to show you are truly independent and not part of the blocks.
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Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
294
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:25:00 -
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Bantara wrote:Unforgiven Storm wrote:I don't have access or talk with leadership of my alliance. Any information I have is by talking with one of my corp directors, he is my point of contact when I have questions. I only talk with him 3 times about my candidacy, one was when I decided to run, I didn't want to cause a problem to my corp so I ask them if it was ok, if the alliance will not create them problems. (...) Man, I know sov null-sec is serious spaceship biz, but I'd be f-ing leaving if I got devalued like that. Don't know why you put up with it. Either way, industrialists *do* matter, they should have a voice, and I'm putting you somewhere in my top 2-5.
Please don't take conclusions about things I didn't said or implied.
In any large organization there is an hierarchy / chain of command. Look at the army, a soldier doesn't go to speak with a general when it has a problem does he? he speaks with his Sargent. This is not much different, we are 10000 players, if we didn't had a chain of command chaos would have destroyed the entire organization. So my "Sargent" are my corp directors, my "lieutenant" is my CEO... I'm a soldier.
There is no devaluation at all, in my RL job I'm one employee in 30000, I don't know my CEO personally, or my R&D director or my Area Manager, nor they know me. I know and talk with my line manager. Its no devaluation, its hierarchy and I'm down there and I have no problems with that.
Official CSM 8 Campaign HQ * Unforgiven Storm for CSM8 * My Blog
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Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
294
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Posted - 2013.04.04 16:09:00 -
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Its time!
I'm the only industrialist candidate in the ballot.
If you want the CSM to have an industry representative, now is the time to vote for me.
I need you, every vote counts!
Vote for me.
https://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/vote/
Thank you all for your support. Official CSM 8 Campaign HQ * Unforgiven Storm for CSM8 * My Blog
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2333
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Posted - 2013.04.04 18:32:00 -
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I strongly endorse this candidate! Good luck!!
Issler |

Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
1108
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Posted - 2013.04.04 22:55:00 -
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An industrialist with deep knowledge and no hidden make-highsec-safer agenda. Embrace The Storm, Endorse The Storm "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |

Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
295
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Posted - 2013.04.05 13:00:00 -
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IGÇÖm counting on you.
IGÇÖm the only industrialist candidate in the ballot. By voting for me youGÇÖll be able to impact the priorities of development in 2013 and 2014 by placing industry on the top 3 issues to be fixed, so we can keep moving this game forward.
These are going to be two busy election weeks! We need to work together to bring your friends and your corp mates to the voting page and ask them to vote for me.
All things are possible, you just need to believe.
Vote for me here.
Even if you donGÇÖt vote for me, itGÇÖs OK, I will never give up on you, I will defend you and your interests in the CSM no matter what. Official CSM 8 Campaign HQ * Unforgiven Storm for CSM8 * My Blog
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
8486
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Posted - 2013.04.05 13:56:00 -
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I unreservedly recommend Unforgiven. Find him a place on your voting lists, because if EVE's economy isn't working right, nothing else will either. Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere
My recommended voting list |

Bantara
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
28
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Posted - 2013.04.05 15:21:00 -
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Unforgiven Storm wrote:Please don't take conclusions about things I didn't said or implied.
In any large organization there is an hierarchy / chain of command. My apologies, looks like I didn't quote the right part. I'm more concerned with how industry players don't matter to them.
You're on my slate, though lower than you would have been had it not been for the major null-sec voting plan.
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Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
296
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Posted - 2013.04.05 16:05:00 -
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Bantara wrote:Unforgiven Storm wrote:Please don't take conclusions about things I didn't said or implied.
In any large organization there is an hierarchy / chain of command. My apologies, looks like I didn't quote the right part. I'm more concerned with how industry players don't matter to them. You're on my slate, though lower than you would have been had it not been for the major null-sec voting plan.
Quote:industry players don't matter to them.
Yes, that is true, but my corp loves me and I love my corp so if the alliance doesn't like industrials I don't care.
about being in the null sec voting plan, please not that Malcanis, 2 high sec candidates and a wormhole guy are in there. What they did was, the first 7 are null, and the last 7 non eligible votes they filled with people they like or think will be good csm candidates.
While I thank them for being recognized as a good candidate and be in the null list, I'm not in a position to take any benefit from it, I didn't ask to be in there and I would like to ask to the players not to read more than that is: an endorsement.
Official CSM 8 Campaign HQ * Unforgiven Storm for CSM8 * My Blog
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Mhax Arthie
Pagan INC 9th Company
47
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Posted - 2013.04.05 17:59:00 -
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Unforgiven Storm, it's time to stand up and drop the looser seat. Goons had a lot of good idea about how to fix null inldy. You stand up now or loose. And none love looser. Drop the tie, ur a goon!! |

Mhax Arthie
Pagan INC 9th Company
47
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Posted - 2013.04.05 18:00:00 -
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Mhax Arthie
Pagan INC 9th Company
47
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Posted - 2013.04.05 18:01:00 -
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]Unforgiven Storm, it's time to stand up and drop the looser seat. Goons had a lot of good idea about how to fix null inldy. You stand up now or loose. And none love loosers. Drop the tie, ur a goon!
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Mhax Arthie
Pagan INC 9th Company
47
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Posted - 2013.04.05 18:02:00 -
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double post pls delete |

Mhax Arthie
Pagan INC 9th Company
47
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Posted - 2013.04.05 18:05:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1110
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Posted - 2013.04.05 18:19:00 -
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Well, I voted for you.
I am sure you will be elected.
Try to be useful and enjoy your time on the CSM. This is not a signature. |

Laura Castelli
Something Unique
0
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:16:00 -
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You got my vote. Good luck! |

Javajunky
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:30:00 -
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Obviously as a corp mate I fully endorse Unforgiven. But I'm not endorsing him for alliance purposes there's plenty of wind baggage on that train for all of null sec. I'm a strong advocate for him because his industry focus is universal, empire to null sec.
Unforgiven has the grasp of Industry, he will be a solid advocate for risk, reward and mechanics. This is a delicate balance.
Obviously I've got street cred as an industry guy, feel free to read my posting history, I don't really do the bittervet nerd rage alliance stuff, they are just fun to troll and spin up. Industry people across Eve should really focus on getting the true industry representation. ADHD PVP will have its representation so should you. Do your research. Cheers. |

Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
298
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:53:00 -
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On The Campaign Trail
These 4 last days have been busy. Most of my time I spend campaigning one-o-one with other players by eve-mail or chat. Looking to my excel file I sent out more than 5000 eve mails for a total cost of 16M in CSPA changes.
Most of the feedback was good, I got more or less 200 replies, but I also got the usual hate mail against goons; the casual insult or the smart ass that thinks it can scam some money from me by selling his votes; I also got two emails in my gmail account with death threats, what is a first and I was a little socked, I wasnGÇÖt expecting them at all, some people just take this game too serious. One was pissed about a lost industrial ship 3 years ago to a goon gank, the other payed some security deposit and didnGÇÖt pass the GÇ£GSF Newbie Security Background CheckGÇ¥ recently and GÇ£lostGÇ¥ it. /facepalm
I could try to spend some time explaining the difference between meta gaming and the CSM and how nothing has to do with it each other, but I would be loosing my timeGǪ
I also spend some considerable time on several forums, reading, not only my threads but also keeping track of some other candidates threads. There are funny stuff out there.
On Saturday I spend 2 hours recording a Lost in Eve Podcast with Mike, Kaleb and Nathan but unfortunately Jade Skype crashed in the end and we lost it. NSA is now the only entity that has a copy and this was one of the best debates ever! Kaleb gave out juicy secrets of GSF diplomatic team and the secret pact with PL to conquer EVE. Nathan show us compromising evidence that puts his direct adversaries in a middle of sexual wormhole scandal and Mike confessed that he is James 315! The best podcast ever and we lost itGǪ /sigh
I also got new endorsements to join Jesper, Trebor and Ali Aras ones, from Alekseyev_Karrde, Rhavas, Issler Dainze and Malcanis. The STV actively encourages inter-candidate recommendations and that is always good. A Special Thank You for recognizing me, my ideas and the platform I defend has one of the 14th that should be in the CSM 8. Official CSM 8 Campaign HQ * Unforgiven Storm for CSM8 * My Blog
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