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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.02.12 08:48:00 -
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If you had the opportunity to go into space beyond the Moon, in an Earth environment sustaining -1 G and 14.7 psi- space craft as part of a 52 strong crew, -26 M and 26 F- on a long duration voyage would you go, and for how long would you want to be away from friends and family? |
Rain6639
Team Evil
205
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Posted - 2013.02.12 09:58:00 -
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would make a nice japanese sim game.
EDM? you mean EFM |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
7708
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Posted - 2013.02.12 10:12:00 -
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Hmm... the men would have to be dealt with first, then forever 
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
751
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Posted - 2013.02.12 10:33:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Hmm... the men would have to be dealt with first, then forever
actually, for sanity and gene pooling sake, you would want to keep the men there.
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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.02.12 10:50:00 -
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Rain6639 wrote:would make a nice japanese sim game.
Or an Icelandic one. |
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.02.12 11:00:00 -
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Rana Ash
Gradient
Electus Matari
132
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Posted - 2013.02.12 11:52:00 -
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How fast is the ship?, are we talking close to light speed or just space rocket fast? |
Kirjava
EVE Protection Agency
Unclaimed.
491
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Posted - 2013.02.12 14:13:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Hmm... the men would have to be dealt with first, then forever actually, for sanity and gene pooling sake, you would want to keep the men there.
Kinky.
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Ares Desideratus
Kannibal Trollz
99
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Posted - 2013.02.12 17:22:00 -
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I always wanted to go into space, but a long duration voyage... honestly doesn't sound that fun.
There are woman on board as you say, but to me that's just another chance to be a quiet, introverted, anti-social badass, normal girls aren't really interested in that.
So, a long duration voyage, probably boring as hell after I get over the initial awesomeness of being in space, where I'd most likely spend my lonely days just thinking and doing whatever tasks, if any, I may have been assigned on this voyage.
Would have to bring a lot of books, I'm guessing the GR33N is out of the picture... I'd have to say no at this point in my life.
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1023
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Posted - 2013.02.12 17:35:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Hmm... the men would have to be dealt with first, then forever actually, for sanity and gene pooling sake, you would want to keep the men there.
Well unless the OP is referring to the Mars One colonization efforts I don't believe long term procreation is part of the agenda. And if we're talking about years in space with the same group I don't believe it will take long for the ship to turn into one big sexually open frat house. |
Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
1043
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Posted - 2013.02.12 17:39:00 -
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space fantasy
appropriate term. clearly.  |
Mizhir
Red Federation
4316
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Posted - 2013.02.12 18:00:00 -
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\o/ space
I think it depends on how high the chance of succes is. If it is something bordering a high risk mission I would not go. But if there was a fair chance of succes (by that I mean the current avarage successrate of space missions) I would most likely go. I am studying medicine now, and I am actually thinking / dreaming about if there is any ways I could get into space exploration that way. Like being the Doctor abroad an exploration spacecraft.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
590
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Posted - 2013.02.12 18:13:00 -
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Adela Talvanen wrote:... for how long would you want to be away from family and friends? I used to be a submariner. Bring it on - A year or more would be fine (especially as my marriage has survived all that sailing nonsense, and my kids can take care of themselves. We know the drill very well.).
Edit:
You don't even need to bother to balance the crew. I've reached an age where enforced celibacy is no longer a death-sentence.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2055
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Posted - 2013.02.12 18:22:00 -
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All it takes is one threesome and the ratio will be ruined. Unless there are 2 threesomes...then it works out.
Ok...as long as there are an even number of threesomes at any given time this voyage will work.
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
757
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:09:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Grimpak wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Hmm... the men would have to be dealt with first, then forever actually, for sanity and gene pooling sake, you would want to keep the men there. Well unless the OP is referring to the Mars One colonization efforts I don't believe long term procreation is part of the agenda. And if we're talking about years in space with the same group I don't believe it will take long for the ship to turn into one big sexually open frat house.
true, but, unless you have some sort of special skill to keep women ripping their throats out of each other, your best bet is to keep a 1:1 ratio.
no, it doesn't work with lesbians, believe me. I've worked once in a furniture store where saleswomen outnumbered salesman in a ratio of like 5 or 6 women for 1 man, and they had these groups formed that enjoyed to actively sabotage (no joke here, it was a very bad problem) each other.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1645
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:13:00 -
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I'm feeling too old for that sort of thing.
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Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
1047
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:16:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Grimpak wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Hmm... the men would have to be dealt with first, then forever actually, for sanity and gene pooling sake, you would want to keep the men there. Well unless the OP is referring to the Mars One colonization efforts I don't believe long term procreation is part of the agenda. And if we're talking about years in space with the same group I don't believe it will take long for the ship to turn into one big sexually open frat house. true, but, unless you have some sort of special skill to keep women ripping their throats out of each other, your best bet is to keep a 1:1 ratio. no, it doesn't work with lesbians, believe me. I've worked once in a furniture store where saleswomen outnumbered salesman in a ratio of like 5 or 6 women for 1 man, and they had these groups formed that enjoyed to actively sabotage (no joke here, it was a very bad problem) each other.
well usually, in a "professional" environment, like where i work, we keep the conflict to eloquently **** talking behind each others back. wouldn't want to create a "toxic" work place or any other of the stupid buzzwords used in the corporate world.
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1023
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:18:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:
Edit:
You don't even need to bother to balance the crew. I've reached an age where enforced celibacy is no longer a death-sentence.
A good friends daughter was stationed on the Truman for 6 months and from some of the stories it doesn't sound like they enforce it enough. I'm telling you I've heard some ****. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
598
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Posted - 2013.02.12 19:52:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:silens vesica wrote:
Edit:
You don't even need to bother to balance the crew. I've reached an age where enforced celibacy is no longer a death-sentence.
A good friends daughter was stationed on the Truman for 6 months and from some of the stories it doesn't sound like they enforce it enough. I'm telling you I've heard some ****.
Depends on just how well-disciplined the crew is. Which really means "How good are your senior leaders?"
Do note I said 'submariner' above. Elite crews, generally selected from the top performers - Volunteering isn't enough, you got to be able to hack it, too. Slackers and losers will be found out. Which does not mean there are no folks who will find other ways of screwing up - Even elite units are made up of people.
Bird farms (carriers), on the other hand... Well, the best you can say for them is that they're big. Actually, that's part of the problem...
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Sab Sab Five
Purging Maelstrom
Sicarius Draconis
22
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Posted - 2013.02.12 21:15:00 -
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hell no.
But i will be totally interested in the podcasts they send back, while i watch pretty young things saunter past my bar window. And sometimes, when i am walking around looking at the beautiful trees and dogs and sky, I might dream of ..... nah, that is what EVE is for. |
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.02.13 12:09:00 -
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Interesting.
That's three yes's, and three no's.
Which is the around the same 50:50 percentages I have received from posters on the other forums I frequent where I asked this question.
The other eight replies I have classed as undecided.
To answer the questions, rocket speed, the average cruising/coasting speed will be around the 160,000 kph mark. As for risk, the danger level on some parts of the mission on a scale of 1 to 10 would be 12.
Regarding silens vesica's comment, on "Slackers and losers", as the 13 M and 13 F -Mission Assistants-for the half of the crew selected from the general population, to be on the crew they will have to have got through the selection program I have devised, providing of course they meet the prerequisites.
And any "Slackers and losers" won't be able to as they don't want it enough, nor can the other participants afford to coast, as the crucial group stages in stage two and three will get progressively tougher as the pre group stages mission applicant then in the group stages mission candidate then mission trainee pool is reduced in numbers till the lucky 13 M and 13 F are picked.
Why did I post the question you may be asking? I was just sniffing the air, and testing the water of public opinion to see if members of the general population would want to go on such a venture. And I am pleased to concur that half of you that replied who weren't undecided would.
Thank you all for all your replies. |
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.02.13 12:53:00 -
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Rana Ash
Gradient
Electus Matari
132
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Posted - 2013.02.13 13:11:00 -
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Well after the update on speed, i'll tag along to Centauri B |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1028
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Posted - 2013.02.13 15:30:00 -
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Rana Ash wrote:Well after the update on speed, i'll tag along to Centauri B
You would still never see it, and the stress on the ship would never handle it. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1647
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Posted - 2013.02.13 17:41:00 -
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Rana Ash wrote:Well after the update on speed, i'll tag along to Centauri B
160000kph is (very roughly rounded) ~0.015% of the speed of light. Or, if you prefer, about 1/6745 of the speed of light.
The pyramids have been around for less time than what you'd need to get to that destination with that speed. To put it another way, you'd probably not even go much past 500 AU before you die of old age, and Alpha Centauri is about a quarter million AUs away.
At that speed, you'd need roughly a month just for the shortest possible distance between Earth and Mars (not the actual path a ship would take to go from Earth to Mars).
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Rana Ash
Gradient
Electus Matari
132
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Posted - 2013.02.13 18:22:00 -
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Sure Akita and Micheal rain on my parade, anything else you want to kill while you're at it?.
So what if i die, i'll still be famous.
Adela did not specify when the trip is sheduled, technological limitations can have been solved |
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.02.13 18:53:00 -
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I wasn't going to add any more, but as Rana Ash want's to die a long way from home, I think I should also rain on his parade.
1, The ship wouldn't be going to Centauri B, it won't even reach the Oort cloud.
2, The mission would be a round trip.
3, If Rana Ash is just after fame, and being famous, he might or might not make it on to the crew. He'll have like all of the participants a 50:50 chance to get through the selection program.
4, IF he does manage to get on to the crew, he'll be famous, and if he's chosen to be in the crew at the last destination, he'll be along side Neil Armstrong for immortal fame.
5, And MOST importantly **IF** the mission and all its associated elements are implemented by the recipients, I have yard sticked, and ball parked the departure date from Earth orbit to be 18th May 2039, or the 70th anniversary of America's Apollo 17, and final moon launch, if that is missed, then a departure date will be 2nd March 2042, or the 70th anniversary or the American Pioneer 10 space probe is a back up date.
IF it isn't then Eve Online is as close as Rana Ash will get to space.
Hope that has cleared up Rana Ash's Star Trek plans. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1028
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Posted - 2013.02.13 19:30:00 -
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Count me out. I would more than likely **** in my adult size depends and have a stroke on the way up as I'll be in the retirement years by then. |
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.02.13 19:47:00 -
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Fair enough.
The selection program IF the departure dates are going to be the ball parked stated will begin in the years 2035, or 2038 or 2047.
IF it is implemented by the recipients before then it'll all kick off sooner.
FWIW, the cut off age for stage one, phase one participation, and the start of the selection program is 68 years and 1 week...on appeal, and 68 years old normally, and at the other end it's 18 years and over normally, and 17 years and 52 weeks parent or guardian consent in writing. 
Right, its getting on in the evening now, and time to make some supper for me and Dad. Bye. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1647
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Posted - 2013.02.13 20:35:00 -
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Adela Talvanen wrote:18th May 2039
And that's the earliest possible ? Then I'm going to be definitely too old for that type of thing, if I'm even still alive at nearly 62 years old by then.
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