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Idara
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Posted - 2005.07.24 05:37:00 -
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NO.
Fix the other parts of the game before you nerf the core element of mining.
 Quote:
Klevari > I ♣ my wife and I ♠ my dog!
Ageis > you club your wife and you spade
your dog?
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Aleksey Azameen
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Posted - 2005.07.24 05:41:00 -
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OMG..........
Reading entire thread before posting leads to enlightenment.
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Originally by: Gnauton
It was purely accidental. We really don't have a sense of humour at all.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.07.24 06:07:00 -
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I think that the combination of the low skill requirements and high reward makes mining ridiculously overpowered. tbh, I think this issue needs to be looked at asap.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.07.24 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
I think that the combination of the low skill requirements and high reward makes mining ridiculously overpowered. tbh, I think this issue needs to be looked at asap.
You neglected to mention the lack of risk associated with this activity.
I would also like to add that something this profitable should be less.....err....interesting. It only seems fair.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.07.24 06:30:00 -
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Shuttle thread was cool, but this one is even better....
(i loved the 'large mining ships should have problems tracking small asteroids' bit :s
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Kerby Lane
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Posted - 2005.07.24 06:32:00 -
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Thats the list of my uber ideas:
1. Make people who hurt roids flagged in empire. They should be freely attackable with no Concord\Sentry response.
2. Siege mode for miners. To mine roid barge\BS should be in "achored" mode. Unanchoring should take at least 3 minutes.
3. Asteroid will have a chance of blowing up at 10 km radius ( similair effect as smartbomb).
Damage will depend on the size of ship and skills of the miner.
4. Indtroduce new skills to foresee the risk and reduce damage stated above.
No more safespoting miners! True risk vs reward system should be enforced.
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Tallena Curie
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Posted - 2005.07.24 07:02:00 -
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Edited by: Tallena Curie on 24/07/2005 07:04:33
Originally by: Kerby Lane
Thats the list of my uber ideas:1. Make people who hurt roids flagged in empire. They should be freely attackable with no Concord\Sentry response.
Not only flagged for PCs, but I think CCP should bring in a new 'Environmental' division of CONCORD, who will warp in and threaten force on a miner who exceeds their daily 'roid quota (say, 25 or so). The quota would be set by your standing with said division, and perhaps a social skill. It would add an element of personal responsibility in mining that is long overdue to be addressed.
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Okoru
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Posted - 2005.07.24 07:04:00 -
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hahaha boom. concordoken for popping too many roids. 
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What I say has nothing to do with my corp.
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Kerby Lane
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Posted - 2005.07.24 07:06:00 -
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Tallena Curie
I really like you idea. It will add new flavour and social responsibility but we also may consider polution reduction and advanced sustainable development skills.
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Tallena Curie
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Posted - 2005.07.24 07:10:00 -
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Edited by: Tallena Curie on 24/07/2005 07:12:09
I couldn't agree more, and we haven't even touched on ice fields. The people mining ice may think everything is 'easy street' today, but I doubt they're giving any thought to the impact of their abuse (over-mining).
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.07.24 07:34:00 -
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Perhaps a racial ice mining skill could be put in. Since a gallante tower needs gallante ice and so on, why not have a skill per type of ice?
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.07.24 07:50:00 -
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Edited by: Sobeseki Pawi on 24/07/2005 07:50:32
Force miners to train up gunnery skills. SOLVED
~Sobe
Captain Cutie, Razor's Kiss
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2005.07.24 07:54:00 -
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I demand tracking on strip miners
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There, i just contributed nothing to your thread
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Paradox Eve
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Posted - 2005.07.24 08:18:00 -
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I have a better idea. Everyone in the game should stop buying mins at anything other than a very low price. Problem solved, mining wont be as profitable.
And building stuff would be a lot cheaper as well (since mins will be cheap), so all prices will drop.
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Sgt Spiff
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Posted - 2005.07.24 08:21:00 -
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Everyone who posted serious replies should be banned. My god people how stupid can you get!
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Brazero
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Posted - 2005.07.24 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
Edited by: Sobeseki Pawi on 24/07/2005 07:50:32
Force miners to train up gunnery skills. SOLVED
We have a winner, and the name is Sobesiki Pawi. 
Congratulations 
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Okoru
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Posted - 2005.07.24 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Brazero
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
Edited by: Sobeseki Pawi on 24/07/2005 07:50:32
Force miners to train up gunnery skills. SOLVED
We have a winner, and the name is Sobesiki Pawi.
Congratulations
Wonder what they'd name them... Mining Laser Specialization? 
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Irias Salo
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Posted - 2005.07.24 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
I think BS and large barge mining needs to be nerfed. I also think that the cruisers that have a mining bonus need to be looked at. The profit they make compared to a bantam miner is totally out of balance. I think it is time to remove the "I WIN" button from the game.
A bantam miner is usually a newbie, so has no need for large amounts of isk that ppl with large mining barges and bs have.
And you don't win a thing, I mean, what is there to win, all that you get is isk from what you sell, or a ton of min with which to build things with.
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Razner Cerizo
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Posted - 2005.07.24 09:01:00 -
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omgooses, why are we wasting time on this thread!
Everyone post in my "Cooking + Carpentry Skillz - Its about time" thread instead!
QUICKLY OR ALL OF EVE WILL STARVE AND/OR LACK NICE WOODEN BENCHES TO SIT ON D:
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.07.24 09:55:00 -
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Can we get roid kill timer? (something like pvp timer).
I really love it, when i come to system and local drops from 11 down to 2. And then i must kill all those cans of ark / merc /bistot/ice...
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:33:00 -
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I think CCP should intoduce several new NPC groups just for miners:
"Roid-Peace" who will fly around bumbing miners, strap themselfs to roids, and tie the miners up in law suits for damaging the environment. It is just not right that miners are ruining the environment for pure greed with no though of future Eve generations!
PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Astronomical bodies! They will steal your ore and turn it back into roids. Spray paint your ships. Break into your factories and let all your minerals go.
No more will miners be able to function with out a social reminder that those are roids were not put there to satisfiy thier greed.
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Masu'di
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: Masu''di on 24/07/2005 10:40:05
we need some tenuos real life comparassion to help justify this too... |
Hawk Firestorm
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
Oh, and another terrible imbalance is that turret users and now missile users need to learn 5-10 skills to be effective and miners only need to train 1 skill up to lvl 4 to be able to use tech II miners. We need a full skill set to compensate here tbh.
Wrong good miners have to train many skills to be really good at it, drones and now master refining if you want to use t2's it's a very hard profession, and a real chore as is, it doesn't need to be any harder, easier if anything especially in 0 space, because of the impact it has on manufacture or the lack of it there.
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Tallena Curie
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Posted - 2005.07.24 11:11:00 -
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And here I was thinking that my posts would stem the flow of serious responses. Clearly I've been away from EVE too long.
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
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Posted - 2005.07.24 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Shan''Talasha Mea''Questa on 24/07/2005 11:51:31
Originally by: Soren
/me can't believe how many people miss scarcasim in posts.. 
That's because Sarcasm is an advanced skill and requires Irony at lvl 5.
Edit: Spelling.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.07.24 13:36:00 -
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If anything mining has to be more profitable, not less.
Empire mining is just stupid right now, you can either mine highly unprofitable minerals with ridiculously weak rats in empire, or go to lowsec and risk having your friendly neighborhood ganksquad pop in for a visit...
Why doesn't mining give you the same options as missions, you can run Level 4 in Empire without ever having to fight another player, but when it comes to mining it's PvP or newbie-belts... That just sucks!
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Spam Javelin
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Posted - 2005.07.24 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kerby Lane
Originally by: Spam Javelin
LOL
Methinks Liu is one of the many who find themselves unable to log in and to pass the time is only joking with the subject of his thread!!
Seems some people here may need clarification on that.....
...or maybe its not a joke since he is a ebil pie-rat
OMFG
People continue to post serious answers.
CCP please nerf miners as they have no sense of humor 
Aye, and it appears that the serious answers are stil coming.
 WTT: Sarcasm Detection skill pack in return for a can o' Veld
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Lisento Slaven
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:07:00 -
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Med and Low Mining Barges can be outmined by BS's. Remember you can't use T2 mining equipment unless you get skills for the equipment AND the crystals (crystals require seperate skills all together) and even then you'll only be doing better than a BS by very little (in a med barge). The Hvy Barge is the only one that can outmine the BS consistently because it takes over 2 months to get, and by then you're somewhat close to getting all the stuff for T2 equipment with the barge anyways.
Everything in the game is made out of minerals...mining doesn't inflate the market cause look how often people need to rebuy ships...means all the ships keep getting blowed up increasing demand. If you nerf miners, there will be even less minerals on the market (and there's already huge demand on the market for all kinds of equipment that people just simply can't make enough of). Would you like a raven to cost 300 million instead of 120 million because of how long it takes to mine for one and construct it (and the fact that EVERYONE who needs one would be out hunting to buy one). Then you have to worry about the equipment which people need to mine for and construct in order for you to outfit the ship you had to *find* and then *buy*.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: Liu Kaskakka on 24/07/2005 18:17:10
Originally by: Lisento Slaven
Would you like a raven to cost 300 million instead of 120 million
Its ok, I don't fly ravens.
Edit: err, ignore my sig, its old ..
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Razner Cerizo
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Posted - 2005.07.24 19:59:00 -
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Radical Asteroid Protection Group Attacks Miners
Carnage in Amsen, CONCORD Baffled.
At least 22 miners have been podded by the insidiously named radical group, MAMA. MAMA (Miners Against Mining Asteroids) spokesperson Jimmy Hoffa claims they were provoked.
About 25 people, 24 civilians and a miner who "was NOT in the shower thinking about the shipboard computer, really", were injured in the blast at about 1450 (1050 GMT) in eastern Amsen.
Eye witnesses report the suicide ship, "Yo MAMA", rushed and detonated near the mining professionals, killing millions and injuring 25.
It was the worst attack since a MAMA representative hacked the mining channels and played "Sienfeld" for 5 hours before committing ritual suicide.
Insurgents have often targeted miners in an ongoing effort to destabilise the economy and "just 4 kikz lol im board"
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