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Almighty Narshe
The Zetetic Elench Solid Foundation
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Posted - 2013.02.16 21:57:00 -
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Miss Spent Youth wrote:From what I have witnessed during my month long playing is that many people that play this game are socially inept to a large degree.
YOUR FACE is socially inept to a large degree.
Ha! That showed her! =P |

J'Poll
The Fiction Factory Tribal Band
1887
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Posted - 2013.02.16 22:07:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Almighty Narshe wrote:Just to be the devil's advocate for a moment, going F2P would mean an influx of idiotic noobs who think they're awesome at everything because of their Call of Duty K/D ratio.
And these my friends, would be fun to slaughter in their thousands (and their rage-tears would be DELICIOUS) :D
Who knows, we might even see Joe Phoenix levels of noobishness once more! Zederick would have a field day! True, but in reality if that happened CCP would most likely cut off your nuts for touching the RMT loving new class of player. Goodbye slaughter, hello.. kitty? Miss Spent Youth wrote:what I have witnessed during my month long playing is that many people that play this game are socially inept to a large degree. You've played what we're saying is the deepest and most involving game ever for a month and feel you have grounds to disagree? I played a year before i even got close to finding my perfect playstyle, and damnit i like it that way 
This.
A month hardly qualifies for having an opinion about the game and the community. |

Miss Spent Youth
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.02.16 23:16:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Miss Spent Youth wrote:I would question the greatest MMO of all time. you clearly have not played that many if you conclude that. Also clearly the people that are paying are also paying so they can be aholes. You see them everywhere.
I strongly disagree. I have also never found a playerbase like EvE's in other mmo's. All the other games i'v played for any length of time left me feeling a little old dispite my age. EvE has at least for me provided a trully memorable and unique experience with some of the finest folk it's been my pleasure to encounter. Also there are d-bags, but really it's down to you to sift through the chaff for the really good parts just like real life. I also consider EvE to be the most expansive and deep mmos i'v ever played. *snip* HiSec can be really fun for a short while, but it's easy. You don't have to be very smart (no offence intended) to get by in hisec. There are however parts of this game that REQUIRE an above average intelligence to play effectively. It stands to reason you will encounter a more interesting class of people there, even if all areas have their idiots.
Thanks Keno good post. Disagreeing without a disrespectful tone! Who would have thought it?
What I have experienced so far in the game is that many seem to love the anonymity behave in an unsavoury way. I must have caught it on a bad few days. I have been lurking on the forums for a while and there do seem alot of people that love to troll. saying things to people they would never say face to face. It has certainly been as bad as any gaming forum I have ever seen. At times no better than "Barrens chat" <--- Famous WoW reference for "your mom jokes and the like. (yes I did play WoW for about six months in Vanilla WoW. Not ashamed of it either. Had some great times and still am friends to this day with many of the folks I met there)
On the other hand I have, I agree with you, also met some great folks too. Several have helped me and showed great kindness. Given advice etc. Through the rookie help channel I have lost count of the people that have private convoed me to offer help. I am sitting on 50 million ISK from one guy! But that is the same in all the MMO games I have ever played.
As for the greatest MMO of all time, this is surly subjective at best? I have played perhaps 30 odd titles in the last 10 years or so many of them fine games. Eve is truly a masterpiece, but to label it the best MMO of all time is egging the pudding. |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
905
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Posted - 2013.02.17 00:55:00 -
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I agree with OP but for different reasons:
1) I've yet to see a "Free to Play" game that wasn't "Pay to Win." This turns the entire game into a sad wasteland where victory goes to whoever is willing to blow the most RL cash on it. Yes, you can sell enough PLEX to buy a battleship in EvE, but that won't get you the skills to fly it and that battleship can be just blown up as easily as any other battleship out there. You cannot buy any permanent advantages with PLEX.
2) As for the trollish behavior, yes we've plenty of that from two-week trial accounts aplenty. The anarchist mentality that goes with people who have no intention of ever actually subscribing can be pretty much ignored by the actual subscribers, however, because it comes down to "No troll in a rookie ship is ever going to threaten your peace of mind." But in a F2P model... those exact same two-week minor annoyances can turn into two-year royal pains in the ass. No thanks.
3) The scamming... oh gawd the scamming. You think EvE is scam central now? Imagine what happens when F2P people show up and all decide they want PLEX and/or Aurum to unlock all their crap for them and they want you to pay for it for them? Every system in the game will look like Jita... local in all of New Eden would be just an endless ticker tape of chat bots running lottery scam macros. EvE Forum Bingo |

First Bass
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.17 09:25:00 -
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Greener than a Christmas tree fresh off the farm, and you sound like as much an insufferable shithead as the Old Guard in the days of yore. Well, let me tell you a story kid: a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, a bunch of people who'd been playing this game for a long-ass while and thought they were pretty hot **** up in null sec got pissy about some upstarts in Rifters playing around in their sandbox. On principle, they decided they wanted to wipe these doe-eyed newcomers out of existence and once and for all establish their sovereignty over 0.0. Do you know what happened to this Old Guard? They got their teeth kicked in by days-old players 90% of whom could only fly frigates, said players then going on to topple some of the most well-established and powerful corporations and alliances in EVE. As for those newbies, the kindred and progenitors of those unwashed knuckle-dragging scum you seem to hold in so much contempt, they went on to become the single corporation, then alliance, to have the greatest the course of this game's history.
I am, of course, referring to Goonswarm. From a bunch of new bees recruited on Something Awful in Goonfleet, then Goonswarm and the Red Swarm Federation, then Goonwaffe and SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSOLODRAK, then Goonswarm again and the Clusterfuck Coalition-their entire history, nay, legend, runs contrary to such elitist snobbery.
Is EVE likely to go FTP soon? Not likely, especially with the moratorium on AURUM and 70$ monocles. But if it were, I'd say bring it on. This game lives and thrives on fresh blood. |

lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis
32
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Posted - 2013.02.18 09:42:00 -
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First Bass wrote:Greener than a Christmas tree fresh off the farm, and you sound like as much an insufferable shithead as the Old Guard in the days of yore. Well, let me tell you a story kid: a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, a bunch of people who'd been playing this game for a long-ass while and thought they were pretty hot **** up in null sec got pissy about some upstarts in Rifters playing around in their sandbox. On principle, they decided they wanted to wipe these doe-eyed newcomers out of existence and once and for all establish their sovereignty over 0.0. Do you know what happened to this Old Guard? They got their teeth kicked in by days-old players 90% of whom could only fly frigates, said players then going on to topple some of the most well-established and powerful corporations and alliances in EVE. As for those newbies, the kindred and progenitors of those unwashed knuckle-dragging scum you seem to hold in so much contempt, they went on to become the single corporation, then alliance, to have the greatest the course of this game's history. I am, of course, referring to Goonswarm. From a bunch of new bees recruited on Something Awful in Goonfleet, then Goonswarm and the Red Swarm Federation, then Goonwaffe and SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSOLODRAK, then Goonswarm again and the Clusterfuck Coalition-their entire history, nay, legend, runs contrary to such elitist snobbery. Is EVE likely to go FTP soon? Not likely, especially with the moratorium on AURUM and 70$ monocles. But if it were, I'd say bring it on. This game lives and thrives on fresh blood. edit: Words of wisdom.
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises Project Wildfire
250
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Posted - 2013.02.18 10:11:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Mokepoke wrote:Not entirely. Dust has a lot of microtransactions that directly affect gameplay. I can imagine Dust already funds itself.
It's also a really fun game with a playerbase just as mature as Eve has. wait....Dust and as mature as EVE. Are we talking about the same Dust514? Ever since it went Open beta (so not only EVE players), have you heard comms and seen local...
Sadly i have seen how Dust players talk in local. Im sure that a lot of them are EVE players who are messing around, but some of it is just stupid and embaressing to watch/read and makes me really wish there was some way to block Dust players as a whole from local.
Are there immature people in EVE? Ofc there is! But in general you will find that if you are polite to the player(s) in question they will be polite back. Trying to be a smart ass and/or a know it all are most likely two of the best ways to make sure an EVE player will dislike you/loose respect for you in general. Avoid this and in most cases you will find that its a very nice community to be a part of.
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Nova Serine
Republic University Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2013.02.18 10:23:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:
Sadly i have seen how Dust players talk in local. Im sure that a lot of them are EVE players who are messing around, but some of it is just stupid and embaressing to watch/read and makes me really wish there was some way to block Dust players as a whole from local.
Are there immature people in EVE? Ofc there is! But in general you will find that if you are polite to the player(s) in question they will be polite back. Trying to be a smart ass and/or a know it all are most likely two of the best ways to make sure an EVE player will dislike you/loose respect for you in general. Avoid this and in most cases you will find that its a very nice community to be a part of.
It's also worth mentioning just how incredibly easy it is to misconstrue someone's intended sentiment on the forums. It might not always be easy to query for clarification first before putting someone on blast, but the payoff is usually worth it in the end. Two rolls of duct tape; one for my ship, and the other for unruly ride-alongs. |

Cannibal Kane
The African Terrorist
1428
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Posted - 2013.02.18 13:51:00 -
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I like you "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
392
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Posted - 2013.02.18 21:35:00 -
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Cane has never said that before to my knowledge :D
Tbh i'm surprised his face didnt crack open just thinking something so soft. If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if 'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |

Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
5796
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Posted - 2013.02.18 23:00:00 -
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Oops double post
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
5796
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Posted - 2013.02.18 23:03:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Cane has never said that before to my knowledge :D
Tbh i'm surprised his face didnt crack open just thinking something so soft.
He has a new sponsor, Nivea take care of his skin, L'oreal do his hair.
Miss Spent Youth wrote:
I find this incredulous TBH. The D'baggery that goes on in this game is the worse I have seen anywhere! Children behave better than most eve players. From what I have witnessed during my month long playing is that many people that play this game are socially inept to a large degree. They associate anonymity with the right to behave like scrubs.
Moaning about the amount of douchebaggery present in a game that is famous for the amount of douchebaggery in it. Eve made its name with the acts of douchebaggery that happen in it, and tbh I don't think many of us would have it any other way.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |
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