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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Nifel
Originally by: Zorn Cephas
Don't get fat, dumb, and happy like the old lions did in FA. Some us still might have a bit of a fight left in us.
If we ever get to that point I welcome you kick us in the nuts to wake us up.
Word.
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Christobel
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:19:00 -
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So, is FA gonna make an official announcemnt?
I know TS has way to big of an ego and probably has yet another excuse for not doing anything to help out (dead NIC = month).
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Christobel So, is FA gonna make an official announcemnt?
I know TS has way to big of an ego and probably has yet another excuse for not doing anything to help out (dead NIC = month).
Tornsoul has been safespotted in NOL since a month. Not sure what he's doing really.
As for official statements, we welcome anything FA would like to state officially, like.. the last 3 corps that left FA for instance that haven't said a word about their departure yet.
The offer still stands, 7 days ceasefire for a official post where you resign from FA and leave the IGA as well as vacate Fountain.
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: SirMolle
As for official statements, we welcome anything FA would like to state officially, like.. the last 3 corps that left FA for instance that haven't said a word about their departure yet.
The offer still stands, 7 days ceasefire for a official post where you resign from FA and leave the IGA as well as vacate Fountain.
Some people call it "a pride thing".
___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
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Nooto
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Nooto on 24/07/2005 17:25:52 nvm
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: dabster
Originally by: SirMolle
As for official statements, we welcome anything FA would like to state officially, like.. the last 3 corps that left FA for instance that haven't said a word about their departure yet.
The offer still stands, 7 days ceasefire for a official post where you resign from FA and leave the IGA as well as vacate Fountain.
Some people call it "a pride thing".
Sometimes u have to just cut your losses, dabster, I'm sure that sitting logged off or safespotted unable to use your main is no fun, I know because I've done it. There's no shame in admitting that a playing style can't match the gaming style of another, not when all the rules are in our favour. Play to your strengths, FA's strength isn't in combat and that is what you need to beat us in this, a battle on our terms and which we excel at.
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:37:00 -
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Tbh i dont ss very often i tend to engage and die instead, it's more fun.
My quote wasnt regarding anything what you just said though so nm ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: dabster Tbh i dont ss very often i tend to engage and die instead, it's more fun.
Sounds like we will have a long fun relationship .
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: dabster
Originally by: SirMolle
As for official statements, we welcome anything FA would like to state officially, like.. the last 3 corps that left FA for instance that haven't said a word about their departure yet.
The offer still stands, 7 days ceasefire for a official post where you resign from FA and leave the IGA as well as vacate Fountain.
Some people call it "a pride thing".
There's no loss of pride admitting that you cannot win, and want to explore other opportunities. There's strength in knowing when you should move on.
Of all the opponents we have fought, the ones that gets our respect are those who, a) go at us with everthing they have and make us sweat. b) those who have admitted defeat when they are defeated.
Those who keep denying and use these forums a a fiction table without ingame actions to back it up.. well, go figure.
We know which corps have left FA, we know they havnt said it publically, and cannot understand why... we will however let them state it themselves.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:47:00 -
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I guess all thats left then is to ask how much a pass will be. I became very fond of the NPC's when Shinra was living there. They sure as hell are easy compared to these damned Angels.
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:51:00 -
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Dear Molle, I'm sure if you use your regular alts and spies you will find our reasons clearly stated to the directors of FA.
Those who need to know, in our opinion, knows. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
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Dyvim Slorm
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Zorn Cephas We had the will to fight and did so, but did not the money to sustain it. Our crys for real monitary assistance went ignored, or so it appeared.
Which begs the question as to why all that ISK FA built up from selling passes wasn't used to help out its members in time of war.
I wonder who's going to keep it as well?
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Xthril Ranger
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: SirMolle
We know which corps have left FA, we know they havnt said it publically, and cannot understand why... we will however let them state it themselves.
There is no need for a statement. People know who left. Why make a long tiring statement. I am sure you are one of those that would tell us it is what in game that counts.
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Xthril Ranger
Originally by: SirMolle
We know which corps have left FA, we know they havnt said it publically, and cannot understand why... we will however let them state it themselves.
There is no need for a statement. People know who left. Why make a long tiring statement.
For the simple reason that you will get a 7 days ceasefire and can move all your stuff out safely. But hey, your call.
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Adam C
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:06:00 -
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I think 60% of the eve population will haunt big/xan for their greediness forever more - lets face it the only way we as an eve community can get at these greedy corporations is by espionage.
Good Luck to them.
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar I guess all thats left then is to ask how much a pass will be. I became very fond of the NPC's when Shinra was living there. They sure as hell are easy compared to these damned Angels.
lol, yeah I hear you. I'll have to check it out one day myself.
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Alter Mann
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:34:00 -
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XAN and BIG have stated numerous times that war is not hurting them, because they can make more ISK then BOB/MC can kill. Fine. So you have a ****loads of ISK. There is no doubt in my mind that with all bpos and lotteries XAN/BIG has more ISK then any single corp had in eve, including Techell.
The question is, what the hell is it for? Sure you have ISK you buy bpos and make new monopolies. Then what? What are you guys playing for? For single player expirience of doing agent missions? Heck, there are lot of games that have better single player content. To cover eventual ship losses for agent missions? You don't lose ships that often in PVE.
Are you gonna ebay all that ISK? Hard to imagine that not being noticed by CCP and them pulling a plug. What are you gonna do? Hire mercs? You never tried to contact MC. Finance your own alliance to defend the region and your interests? Obviously you are not doing that either.
So when XAN/BIG states that "they are not dead" because they keep their ISK, its a lie, since your ISK has no real value. Its a make-believe money in a game for which you can buy a rich gaming expirience, including pvp. Gotta be thick as a brick not to realise that.
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Ranger 1
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:38:00 -
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I have a very honest and straight forward question for you, and it concerns BOB's future plans for FA space, so the answer may reveal more than you wish to. If so I think that is understandable.
Corporations that have left FA, but who have sweated blood to defend their homes, may not wish to leave FA space. Obviously this puts them at a disadvantage, as they may come under attack from BOB forces and face the very real possibility of coming under attack from FA forces as well. FA space is becoming fractionalized in a very real sense... even if game mechanics keep that fact from becoming evident on the map. As suggested in the early descriptions of the NWO (I take a certain cold comfort in the fact that I pointed this out in the FA council some time ago), many 0.0 regions are going to split in to more managable and defendable area's.
The point being, in BOB's eyes, does leaving FA mean leaving the Fountain Alliance, or in completely pulling out of FA space?
Let me just say some "official" announcements may be being avoided because people do not wish to leave their homes... especially if the reasons they have left the allinace have more to do with dissatisfaction in the actions of the alliance in this situation than anything else. Granted, some have come to realize their dissatisfaction due to the BOB's assault putting a spotlight on how the "old timers" in FA handle internal matters when under this type of pressure. Many key area's in FA space are becoming more like a "Barbary Coast" than anything else. So is BOB going to allow some of the infra-structure that exists in FA space to continue if it is no longer affiliated with the formal Fountain Alliance? Or do your future plans for the area require the expulsion of all non-BOB corporations from the area?
Thats about as direct and honest as I can make it.
That's not a moon... that's my POS
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Byron Lee
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dyvim Slorm
Originally by: Zorn Cephas We had the will to fight and did so, but did not the money to sustain it. Our crys for real monitary assistance went ignored, or so it appeared.
Which begs the question as to why all that ISK FA built up from selling passes wasn't used to help out its members in time of war.
I wonder who's going to keep it as well?
The second best question in this threat. It sure the hell was not us, or the other corps that left. We were just the meat in the sandwich.
I have been in the USAF for most of my adult life, and I never left my troops asking the question "why is it us" or ask them to risk anything withot providing the means to do what was ask of them.
(a lesson the old lions I fear have still yet to learn)
FA lived off an image of what they were, not what they had become. Not even corp after corp leaving or being asked to sue for peace and ask for terms seemed to be heard.
I have been gaming a long, long time.
Two things I would suggest to BoB,
The folks that are still there know how to make money, mine and build ships. That is an industry base you should should not let slip away. Attack what you wish, but the best concurers don't exterminate the local population. They absorb it and make it a part of them and treat them with respect, then emerg from the fight bigger, stronger and more powerful.
Offer peace and union, or an iron fist. The battle is over, you have your prize, now build on it.
Cheers
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Byron Lee
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Posted - 2005.07.24 18:48:00 -
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Well said R1
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Ranger 1
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Posted - 2005.07.24 19:01:00 -
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Heh, well, someone had to ask for a bit of clarification. I respect the other corps that have left the alliance and their reasons for doing so, and I think its important that we get a clear understanding of BOB's intention's to those that wish to stay in the region. Current wisdom would have dictated posting with an alt I suppose, but I have never been able to bring myself to do that.
That's not a moon... that's my POS
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2005.07.24 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 I have a very honest and straight forward question for you, and it concerns BOB's future plans for FA space, so the answer may reveal more than you wish to. If so I think that is understandable.
Corporations that have left FA, but who have sweated blood to defend their homes, may not wish to leave FA space. Obviously this puts them at a disadvantage, as they may come under attack from BOB forces and face the very real possibility of coming under attack from FA forces as well. FA space is becoming fractionalized in a very real sense... even if game mechanics keep that fact from becoming evident on the map. As suggested in the early descriptions of the NWO (I take a certain cold comfort in the fact that I pointed this out in the FA council some time ago), many 0.0 regions are going to split in to more managable and defendable area's.
The point being, in BOB's eyes, does leaving FA mean leaving the Fountain Alliance, or in completely pulling out of FA space?
Let me just say some "official" announcements may be being avoided because people do not wish to leave their homes... especially if the reasons they have left the allinace have more to do with dissatisfaction in the actions of the alliance in this situation than anything else. Granted, some have come to realize their dissatisfaction due to the BOB's assault putting a spotlight on how the "old timers" in FA handle internal matters when under this type of pressure. Many key area's in FA space are becoming more like a "Barbary Coast" than anything else. So is BOB going to allow some of the infra-structure that exists in FA space to continue if it is no longer affiliated with the formal Fountain Alliance? Or do your future plans for the area require the expulsion of all non-BOB corporations from the area?
Thats about as direct and honest as I can make it.
The only way to find out, is to talk to us about it.
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2005.07.24 19:15:00 -
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EVE System > Channel MOTD: Welcome to fountain alliance public chan, this chan is for passports and contacting FA members with various issues that needs dealing with. PASS sales: Closed permanently
from their public channel lol ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Cpt Doyle
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Posted - 2005.07.24 19:17:00 -
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Pc Limited edition Bozl1n's corpse there is only two in circulation.
The Corpse
Fa was fun while it lasted
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2005.07.24 19:21:00 -
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I hope that if FA falls apart that this might effect the BIG lottery that is a vital part of eve since release. ---------------------------------------------
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CdCommander
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Posted - 2005.07.24 20:08:00 -
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When FA dies and BoB take Fountain, do SE and ASCN get travel/huting rights and that kinda crap?
i wants a Vindicator
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Zan Esu
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Posted - 2005.07.24 20:10:00 -
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I've got his second corpse :) and I intend to keep it!
2004.10.22 04:54:00
Victim: Bozl1n Corporation: Cold Fusion Inc. Destroyed Type: Capsule Solar System: Serpentis Prime System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Zan Esu (laid the final blow)
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Daenarys
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Posted - 2005.07.24 20:37:00 -
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Edited by: Daenarys on 24/07/2005 20:39:59
Originally by: Adam C I think 60% of the eve population will haunt big/xan for their greediness forever more - lets face it the only way we as an eve community can get at these greedy corporations is by espionage.
Good Luck to them.
If Xan and BIG are so greedy as you say then I doubt any of them would have had such a vulnerable and ungrateful positions as the leaders of an alliance that has no possibility of earning them any money, indeed they are losing or risking assets every day in the name of their alliance.
Edit: Xanadu apparently aren't in a leadership position within FA so then they should not really be blamed for the current political route that FA has taken anyways. Not more than any other corp. |
Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.07.24 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Daenarys Edited by: Daenarys on 24/07/2005 20:39:59
Originally by: Adam C I think 60% of the eve population will haunt big/xan for their greediness forever more - lets face it the only way we as an eve community can get at these greedy corporations is by espionage.
Good Luck to them.
If Xan and BIG are so greedy as you say then I doubt any of them would have had such a vulnerable and ungrateful positions as the leaders of an alliance that has no possibility of earning them any money, indeed they are losing or risking assets every day in the name of their alliance.
Edit: Xanadu apparently aren't in a leadership position within FA so then they should not really be blamed for the current political route that FA has taken anyways. Not more than any other corp.
well in all fairness we do kil the odd big frig while the rest of the alliance losse bigger ships, you woud see that if you checked our socre bord
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2005.07.24 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: Gavin Kineli on 24/07/2005 21:13:31
Originally by: Alter Mann XAN and BIG have stated numerous times that war is not hurting them, because they can make more ISK then BOB/MC can kill. Fine. So you have a ****loads of ISK. There is no doubt in my mind that with all bpos and lotteries XAN/BIG has more ISK then any single corp had in eve, including Techell.
The question is, what the hell is it for? Sure you have ISK you buy bpos and make new monopolies. Then what? What are you guys playing for? For single player expirience of doing agent missions? Heck, there are lot of games that have better single player content. To cover eventual ship losses for agent missions? You don't lose ships that often in PVE.
Are you gonna ebay all that ISK? Hard to imagine that not being noticed by CCP and them pulling a plug. What are you gonna do? Hire mercs? You never tried to contact MC. Finance your own alliance to defend the region and your interests? Obviously you are not doing that either.
So when XAN/BIG states that "they are not dead" because they keep their ISK, its a lie, since your ISK has no real value. Its a make-believe money in a game for which you can buy a rich gaming expirience, including pvp. Gotta be thick as a brick not to realise that.
Have you considered the idea that maybe BIG doesn't have much isk?
BIG spends money on the lottery - we don't make money on it. BIG spends money on the BIG deal, we don't earn any from it.
P.S. BIG doesn't buy bpos.
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