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Jessi Fatalis
Substandard industries Insidious Associates
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:29:00 -
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So i was mining in a .5 system when i came across this.
mining machariel
Should i have blown his position, so that he would be ganked?
Because if you are asking me, mining in a machariel is asking to be ganked. |

Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:31:00 -
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http://picturepush.com/public/12193139 Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |

Abrazzar
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:42:00 -
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Materials for War Preparation. You gotta mine the veld if you don't want to buy the overpriced 999 Veldspar from the station. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |

Cebraio
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
224
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:45:00 -
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Grandpa: Quote:He is reliving the old times. Back in my days, we only had battleships for mining. |

Jessi Fatalis
Substandard industries Insidious Associates
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:46:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Materials for War Preparation. You gotta mine the veld if you don't want to buy the overpriced 999 Veldspar from the station.
true but then you would use an actual mining ship and not a machariel. |

Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:47:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:I'd say it is resting. Here we see the stately but deadly Machariel in its natural habitat. Between rat hunts, the Machariel can be seen lazing about in the asteroid fields, munching on rocks to aid in its digestion. Some observers have assumed the creature was merely lazy, and using the rocks as a sort of subsistence nourishment at times when it doesn't feel up to hunting. A truly graceful and enigmatic being is the Machariel. |

ISquishWorms
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:48:00 -
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What you have there is one of them very rare Mining Mach's. . |

stoicfaux
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:52:00 -
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Just more proof that the Mach is imba.
Plus, we should all be glad that mining lasers don't have falloff, otherwise that Mach would be sitting next to the station when mining the asteroid field.
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Mirajane Cromwell
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:57:00 -
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Aeril Malkyre wrote:Whitehound wrote:I'd say it is resting. Here we see the stately but deadly Machariel in its natural habitat. Between rat hunts, the Machariel can be seen lazing about in the asteroid fields, munching on rocks to aid in its digestion. Some observers have assumed the creature was merely lazy, and using the rocks as a sort of subsistence nourishment at times when it doesn't feel up to hunting. A truly graceful and enigmatic being is the Machariel. I'm imagining this narrated by David Attenborough 
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
832
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:57:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Grandpa: Quote:He is reliving the old times. Back in my days, we only had battleships for mining.
Ah the apoc , how i loved that mining beast ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Alice Saki
Suddenly Spaced Out Suddenly Spaceships.
30257
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Posted - 2013.02.15 14:58:00 -
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I did it in a Nado :D I lack any Moral Fiber :D |

Lady Godwynn
Cobalt Valkyrie Industries Ping Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.15 15:08:00 -
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Mack / Mach - lots of people make that mistake  |

baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2013.02.15 15:24:00 -
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Its entirely possible it was profitable to gank. |

chibi rowan
Eques Angelus Mortis
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Posted - 2013.02.15 15:32:00 -
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mining in a mach is like bungie jumping...without a bungie cord |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.02.15 15:34:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Plus, we should all be glad that mining lasers don't have falloff, otherwise that Mach would be sitting next to the station when mining the asteroid field.
That would be at greatly recuded yield.
You do know how falloff works, right? |

No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.15 16:23:00 -
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We have seen the mining titan, I have personally seen a Chimera in a 0.4 belt mining with drones, we have also seen multiple billion isk officer fit mission boats that would perform better with a simple T2 fit, why not a mining mach? I'm bettting on stupid. . |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
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Posted - 2013.02.15 16:26:00 -
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Mining....in a Machariel?
A Machariel....
MACHARIEL!!?!?!
Dear CCP, I hereby formally request you add Tech2 Pitchforks and Torches to the game, so that we my smite and/or burn the heretic/blasphemer in his very own Den. Thank you CCP for your timely intervention in this matter of extreme importance. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.02.15 16:28:00 -
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Jessi Fatalis wrote:So i was mining in a .5 system when i came across this. mining macharielShould i have blown his position, so that he would be ganked? Because if you are asking me, mining in a machariel is asking to be ganked.
That poor mach  Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1364
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Posted - 2013.02.15 16:28:00 -
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Aeril Malkyre wrote:Whitehound wrote:I'd say it is resting. Here we see the stately but deadly Machariel in its natural habitat. Between rat hunts, the Machariel can be seen lazing about in the asteroid fields, munching on rocks to aid in its digestion. Some observers have assumed the creature was merely lazy, and using the rocks as a sort of subsistence nourishment at times when it doesn't feel up to hunting. A truly graceful and enigmatic being is the Machariel.
I gave you a like because I can't give you isk from this damn iphone.
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2013.02.15 16:39:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Plus, we should all be glad that mining lasers don't have falloff, otherwise that Mach would be sitting next to the station when mining the asteroid field.
That would be at greatly recuded yield. You do know how falloff works, right? It would be balanced against the Mach's small cargohold. You may get reduced yield from falloff, but you're right next to the station and thus can unload ore quickly. Plus, instead of fitting cargohold expanders, you can fit CPUs for additional MLUs. On the down side, the station hugging Mining Mach wouldn't benefit from mining drones.
Of course, we would need to run Teh Numbers(tm) to see what the breaking point is between falloff loss and loss from traveling to/from the field and the impact of mining drones.
To the spreadsheets!
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2164
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:03:00 -
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In a time when most miners were below average intelligence and cant tank a single catalyst... One man had an idea.... to mine..... like a boss. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Jayson Kassis
Carbon Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:05:00 -
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All i see is a ship mining in style. |

Kristoffon vonDrake
Forceful Resource Acquisition Inc
27
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:09:00 -
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it's the stepping stone to the mining ragnarok |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
1024
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:15:00 -
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Kristoffon vonDrake wrote:it's the stepping stone to the mining ragnarok
All mining supercaps are inferior to the mining Nyx. MinerNyx pilots have developed true mining chi. Why? Think about it. CISPA - Readin' your secret corptheft mails since 2012 |

Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:41:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Aeril Malkyre wrote:Whitehound wrote:I'd say it is resting. Here we see the stately but deadly Machariel in its natural habitat. Between rat hunts, the Machariel can be seen lazing about in the asteroid fields, munching on rocks to aid in its digestion. Some observers have assumed the creature was merely lazy, and using the rocks as a sort of subsistence nourishment at times when it doesn't feel up to hunting. A truly graceful and enigmatic being is the Machariel. I gave you a like because I can't give you isk from this damn iphone. /me bows
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Barakach
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:00:00 -
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Aeril Malkyre wrote:Whitehound wrote:I'd say it is resting. Here we see the stately but deadly Machariel in its natural habitat. Between rat hunts, the Machariel can be seen lazing about in the asteroid fields, munching on rocks to aid in its digestion. Some observers have assumed the creature was merely lazy, and using the rocks as a sort of subsistence nourishment at times when it doesn't feel up to hunting. A truly graceful and enigmatic being is the Machariel.
Anyone else read this with Steve Irwin's voice? |

Jessi Fatalis
Substandard industries Insidious Associates
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:02:00 -
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Barakach wrote:Aeril Malkyre wrote:Whitehound wrote:I'd say it is resting. Here we see the stately but deadly Machariel in its natural habitat. Between rat hunts, the Machariel can be seen lazing about in the asteroid fields, munching on rocks to aid in its digestion. Some observers have assumed the creature was merely lazy, and using the rocks as a sort of subsistence nourishment at times when it doesn't feel up to hunting. A truly graceful and enigmatic being is the Machariel. Anyone else read this with Steve Irwin's voice?
i am imagining this narrated by Morgan Freeman.
No better voice then the voice of god narrating such an awesome piece of wordsmanship. |

Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:33:00 -
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Go home machariel you're drunk. Not today spaghetti. |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:47:00 -
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Hmm... if this was in low-sec I'd say that he's trying to scare of potential gankers who will simply say "Oh crap a Mach, RUN AWAY!" before they bother to look too close.
But in 0.5... well, look at it like this: 0.5 is miner ganker paradise, because that's the lowest CONCORD response time this side of high-sec. But this guy/gal, are they going to get ganked? Not unless Mittani himself is leading the squad. This is someone can truly AFK mine without a care in the world.
Then again maybe they were just bored. I'm betting on the "Materials for War Prep" theory and will expand it further: The pilot probably doesn't have one SP devoted to anything past Mining 1... and wants to keep it that way. EvE Forum Bingo |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:56:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Grandpa: Quote:He is reliving the old times. Back in my days, we only had battleships for mining.
I miss Grandpa Bill. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:57:00 -
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I highly doubt that ship can be easily suicide ganked in high security, even by a coordinated attack from 1/2 dozen gankers. The Mach has ample slots to fit up a massive tank, even if it had equipped all low slots with expanded cargoholds, the mid and rig slots would still give it plenty of tank.
I see nothing wrong in being innovative and safeguarding oneself from gankers.
DMC |

stoicfaux
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:58:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote: But in 0.5... well, look at it like this: 0.5 is miner ganker paradise, because that's the lowest CONCORD response time this side of high-sec. But this guy/gal, are they going to get ganked? Not unless Mittani himself is leading the squad. This is someone can truly AFK mine without a care in the world.
A mining Mach has about ~46k EHP with 2.7k of cargo space. (CPU is really tight.) A Procurer has ~42k EHP with 12.0k of ore space.
So I guess the Mach isn't that great of an AFK miner; thus there's no need to nerf the Mach.
edit: Mach and Procurer both fit with 2x MLU IIs. |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2013.02.15 23:48:00 -
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Do you know what he was mining? You need Kernite for the L4 storyline. Also Id drop MLUs in a mining Mach, to free up CPU for a better tank. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

ACE McFACE
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2013.02.15 23:58:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Materials for War Preparation. You gotta mine the veld if you don't want to buy the overpriced 999 Veldspar from the station. If you can buy a Mach, you can probably afford to pay a little extra for veld DUST514 isn't on PC because CCP wants 2 different communities influencing each other, not people tabbing out to give themselves Orbital Strikes. (Also they don't want to cannibalise their existing playerbase) |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2013.02.16 00:34:00 -
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Stealth bumper?
edit: a bump mach with miners on it owns the belt. No one else can get close enough to actually mine the ore. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |

Gianath
Gallentian Legitimate Businessmen
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Posted - 2013.02.16 00:58:00 -
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Sometimes I get tired of missioning and want to do something different with my time. That's led me to mining across several different battleship hulls (Rokh, Domi, and Megathron). Was it the most efficient way to mine? No.
Was it nice being able to have 50-60k EHP and a full drone bay to pop people who can flip me? Oh yeah.
Different times now, but I probably would have used a Mach for the same purposes if I had one at the time. |

Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
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Posted - 2013.02.16 01:55:00 -
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I have seen it too. It has a bumper sticker that says "Bump me. I dare you." This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.16 08:24:00 -
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Jessi Fatalis wrote:So i was mining in a .5 system when i came across this. mining macharielShould i have blown his position, so that he would be ganked? Because if you are asking me, mining in a machariel is asking to be ganked. I can't decide if it's more wrong for a miner to use a macariel or for a combat ship to equip a mining laser. Can someone help me, my brain hurts? |

Alice Saki
Suddenly Spaced Out Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.02.16 10:02:00 -
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Well It's better than someone using it with T1 guns I suppose :| I lack any Moral Fiber :D |

Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.02.16 10:33:00 -
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i mined 74k units of veld in a rattlesnake earlier this evening, waiting for CVA to undock. never happened. did pop a good sized asteroid, though it was amazing
later got on some kills with the 'snake, a flycatcher, and a basilisk http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ ||-áVincent Athena, I made something for you: http://i.imgur.com/hrxcc.jpg |

Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
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Posted - 2013.02.16 11:05:00 -
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Ganking a Mach isnt the same as ganking a Hulk.. If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if 'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |

March rabbit
player corp n1
536
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Posted - 2013.02.16 11:36:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Materials for War Preparation. You gotta mine the veld if you don't want to buy the overpriced 999 Veldspar from the station. last times i did this mission i paid like 1-2 millions for overpriced ore and got implant 20+ millions worth.
Not sure mining will matter in this situation |

Kringol Todako
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.02.16 13:09:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Ganking a Mach isnt the same as ganking a Hulk..
Ofcourse not, but it isn't impossible either. |

Sara Sirlanka
Panty Raiders R Us
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Posted - 2013.02.16 14:04:00 -
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Any one remember Chibra's infamous High-sec Veldanaught? |

Ovv Topik
Proposition Thirteen The Third Rail
291
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Posted - 2013.02.16 14:09:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:I did it in a Nado :D While mining? As long as there is stuff left to kill, EVE is alive. |

Ovv Topik
Proposition Thirteen The Third Rail
291
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Posted - 2013.02.16 14:10:00 -
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Sara Sirlanka wrote:Any one remember Chibra's infamous High-sec Veldanaught? He uses a Titan now! As long as there is stuff left to kill, EVE is alive. |

Sara Sirlanka
Panty Raiders R Us
0
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Posted - 2013.02.16 14:50:00 -
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Haha that is nice of him to use a Titan, I hope he gets a mining DDD. Zaps all the roids in a belt and sucks them in.
How did he lose the high-sec Dread? Did he attack some one or did it get ganked? |

Ovv Topik
Proposition Thirteen The Third Rail
292
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Posted - 2013.02.16 15:39:00 -
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Sara Sirlanka wrote:Haha that is nice of him to use a Titan, I hope he gets a mining DDD. Zaps all the roids in a belt and sucks them in.
How did he lose the high-sec Dread? Did he attack some one or did it get ganked? He still uses them both. If you're ever passing through Amarr, check if he's in local. It's the best way to see an Avatar up close without losing your ship. As long as there is stuff left to kill, EVE is alive. |

Cable Udan
The Tuskers
141
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Posted - 2013.02.16 18:34:00 -
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I don't always mine,
But when I do, I mine in style. http://chasingtheblueflash.blogspot.com/
My Pirate Blog |

Jessi Fatalis
Substandard industries Insidious Associates
7
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Posted - 2013.02.16 20:22:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Do you know what he was mining? You need Kernite for the L4 storyline. Also Id drop MLUs in a mining Mach, to free up CPU for a better tank.
there was only scordite, pyroxeres and veldspar in the belt. |

YuuKnow
boom-town
648
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Posted - 2013.02.16 21:52:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Grandpa: Quote:He is reliving the old times. Back in my days, we only had battleships for mining.
Yep, Apocs FTW.
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