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Equin
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Posted - 2005.07.26 19:13:00 -
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Our corp has bought one of these today. Here is a screenshot in which you can find some info:
We are currently improving the BPO, so if you'd like to know what an improved version would look like, contact us in a few weeks :)
At the moment we're trying to work together with several corporations out in 0.0 to get an outpost built. Securing systems that have rare ores and juicy NPCs in them, mining minerals, hauling moon raws, maintaining POS's and sorting out politics are things we deal with every day. We're still looking for new partners that are interested in joining our little endeavour - send me an EVEmail if you'd like to get in contact.
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Nova Beta
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Posted - 2005.07.26 19:31:00 -
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thx Equin, we would like to see other outpost bpo infos, ccp didnot add info to database yet
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RedClaws
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Posted - 2005.07.26 19:31:00 -
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i was expecting to find the requirements to build them to be 200mil units of metal scraps ;)
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.26 19:49:00 -
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is the blue print a bpo or a bpc? I see alot of people buying these things for what will probably be a 1 or 2 use item it makes no sense for it to be a bpo.
lets look at the economics here, proabaly 30 billion worth of materials to build the station, plus you need a freighter to haul it out to where its going to be deployed.
This seems like alot of work, I am however interested in seeing some new stations go up in mineral rich areas that players will be able to exploit that are hard to exploit now due to hauling problems.
There are a few systems in Geminate I would like to see some people put up some of these outposts, but I am not going to be spending this type of money myself to do it.
Zandramus
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Equin
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Posted - 2005.07.26 19:54:00 -
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Building an outpost should be a joint venture, not something one person or even one corp does. And yeah, let's hope these outposts make 0.0 more interesting and offer some better comfort :)
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sliver 0xD
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Posted - 2005.07.26 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: sliver 0xD on 26/07/2005 22:24:01
about how many man hour do u think a outpost will cost ?
( its insane but i love it :) )
can i get a bpc ??
*edit : outpos : u lose ur pos to dread and then ur outpost is undefended :P ( pow 30bil gone :P ), spend ur isk on 300 bs's and go shoot a station :P
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2005.07.27 08:13:00 -
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In reply to silver -
Longer then you are going to play this game. 
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Vaaliant
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Posted - 2005.07.27 10:41:00 -
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That plutonium is gonna be a real pain in the arse to get a hold of. I'd be interested in hearing what kinda services you'll be needing in terms of logistics :)
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GuffenCom
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Posted - 2005.07.27 11:53:00 -
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The outpost cant go POP!
Only be taken over 
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.27 14:48:00 -
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Hauling 387m trit is going to be a big pain in the arse, even in an iteron 5 with named expanders your looking at roughly 130 round trips just for the trit.
Im thinking you gotta want one of these really bad to build it.
Zandramus
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Nova Beta
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Posted - 2005.07.27 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Nova Beta on 27/07/2005 15:30:52
Get a freighter and jettison all 3 min 27.500m3 stacks near (SS)... so indy can scoop it and put into outpost -> freighter cannot put it inside,
i think it could be better to mine the stuff next to platform and refine in pos refineries
mining calt for pos ref:http://stefan.jeroengeerts.nl/mining.php |
Jessa
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Posted - 2005.07.27 16:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Zandramus
Hauling 387m trit is going to be a big pain in the arse, even in an iteron 5 with named expanders your looking at roughly 130 round trips just for the trit.
Im thinking you gotta want one of these really bad to build it.
Thats with one person doing the hauling, what is it with people assuming that these guys are suggesting a one man job here? with teamwork and a good few haulers that can be broken down to about 10-20 trips, even less if they use a freighter to get the stuff into the nearest 0.0 station to their founding site.
Geez.
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Kadarin
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Posted - 2005.07.27 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Zandramus
There are a few systems in Geminate I would like to see some people put up some of these outposts, but I am not going to be spending this type of money myself to do it.
The lower part of Geminate would be an excellent place to put one.
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.27 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kadarin
Originally by: Zandramus
There are a few systems in Geminate I would like to see some people put up some of these outposts, but I am not going to be spending this type of money myself to do it.
The lower part of Geminate would be an excellent place to put one.
I agree TDE4-H would be an excelent system, plenty of belts to support construction, rare ore and 2 other rare ore systems within 2 jumps.
L-TOFR would be another excellent spot though this is already 2 jumps from LS-JEP but there is no rares in LS-JEP.
8MG though now 2 jumps from empire is 3 jumps from an empire station and would be a good candidate. Im sure that there are systems similar in most 0.0 regions.
I agree this will take a shedload of co-operation, I am wondering are there any in place yet? has anyone built one yet on tranquility?
I would also think that another good location for one would be in a system that has a conqurable factory. pputting the refinery and factory in the same system, one system that comes to mind would be BZ- down in stain, has Stain put one up yet?
am very interested to see how this goes and how many will be built in game.
Zandramus
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Elise Masutra
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Posted - 2005.07.30 14:19:00 -
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@FAEX u can't jettison anything from a freighter except the platform, so the plan won't work
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Saerid
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Posted - 2005.07.31 14:38:00 -
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Could be interesting to see if a build-to-order outpost construction is a viable business. One mechanism that could work is starting a shell corporation for each outpost, join the alliance, then just have some CEO's alts or so join it once the construction is complete, pass the CEO role and leave. Or alternatively add the builders to the alliance holding corp. Basic concept would be to just provide the construction as a service to alliances.
The big issue would be risk management, how to ensure the builder gets paid. The 30 something billion represents a fair bit of economic risk after all. Not to mention the margins would have to be pretty high before it's worth all the hassle. Any thoughts?
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Nova Beta
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Posted - 2005.07.31 20:31:00 -
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THx Elise i am a bit behind... sorry
ingame mining calc for pos http://stefan.jeroengeerts.nl/mining.php |
Maasu
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Posted - 2005.08.02 02:01:00 -
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gl :D
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Vmir Gallahasen
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Posted - 2005.08.02 18:58:00 -
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Quote:
@FAEX u can't jettison anything from a freighter except the platform, so the plan won't work
What if you put it all in lots and lots of giant secure cans?
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Goulag
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Posted - 2005.08.03 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Vmir Gallahasen
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@FAEX u can't jettison anything from a freighter except the platform, so the plan won't work
What if you put it all in lots and lots of giant secure cans?
freighters can only carry packaged giant containers. that means no extra cargo room for free. you get an error message about 'plankt generators' not being allowed
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Bryndal
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Posted - 2005.08.03 05:08:00 -
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Originally by: Saerid
Could be interesting to see if a build-to-order outpost construction is a viable business. One mechanism that could work is starting a shell corporation for each outpost, join the alliance, then just have some CEO's alts or so join it once the construction is complete, pass the CEO role and leave. Or alternatively add the builders to the alliance holding corp. Basic concept would be to just provide the construction as a service to alliances.
The big issue would be risk management, how to ensure the builder gets paid. The 30 something billion represents a fair bit of economic risk after all. Not to mention the margins would have to be pretty high before it's worth all the hassle. Any thoughts?
Do it the same way you get a house built in RL. Take a part payment for the construction of each component of the outpost when you build the component. The customer holds about 2/3s of the price as a final payment for putting it in place. If they dont pay dont let them have contgrol of the outpost.
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Flipper slipper
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Posted - 2005.08.03 07:35:00 -
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Building an outpost is a big job in itself, but the real job is going to be defending it. I wouldnt even consider building it unless you have the military power to back it up :)
An outpost in a nice location is gonna be a BIG target to any griefing pirate corp or alliance.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.08.03 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Saerid
Could be interesting to see if a build-to-order outpost construction is a viable business. One mechanism that could work is starting a shell corporation for each outpost, join the alliance, then just have some CEO's alts or so join it once the construction is complete, pass the CEO role and leave. Or alternatively add the builders to the alliance holding corp. Basic concept would be to just provide the construction as a service to alliances.
The big issue would be risk management, how to ensure the builder gets paid. The 30 something billion represents a fair bit of economic risk after all. Not to mention the margins would have to be pretty high before it's worth all the hassle. Any thoughts?
Unfortunately for would be outpost builders, if the 'host' alliance decide to 'play nasty' then there's not a huge amount you can do about it. Short of fortifying the system to buggery, and inviting another alliance to come and play.
A 'staged' payment project isn't unreasonable - agree 'milestones'.
(Platform construction, platform deployment, minerals, trade goods, online, transfer of assets) and agree percentages of the construction that each represents.
That way at each stage, you have a 'good faith' arrangement, that they could just attack, (but they've already paid for most of it) or you could just try and keep (but you're deep in 'their' space) and everyone's happy.
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Skarsnik
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Posted - 2005.08.03 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vaaliant
That plutonium is gonna be a real pain in the arse to get a hold of. I'd be interested in hearing what kinda services you'll be needing in terms of logistics :)
I know this is the wrong place for it, but we have a substantial amount of plutonium (roughly enough for 2 outposts) for sale in The Placid region 2 jumps form 0.0 space. 
But good look to those who end up building this
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Slipknot Korn
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Posted - 2005.08.03 21:29:00 -
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OMG a gigantic pod!!  
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Death Merchant
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Posted - 2005.08.04 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Slipknot Korn
OMG a gigantic pod!!
It turns into pretty station after downtime from what I saw on the pictures of eve forums
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Sumica
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:28:00 -
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So what dose it take to build the platform that builds the station.
Your not stupid just misinformed Ö |
Acier
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Posted - 2005.08.11 22:51:00 -
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Can you make bpc's of the bpo and if so pls contact me ingame w new ME attributes.
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prangster
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Posted - 2005.08.12 03:21:00 -
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I have a 1 run bpc for the minmatar outpost available if anyone wants to contact me in game with an offer. Probably not the right place for this but several people asked in this thread. Good luck Equin, the requirements don't look too bad until you check the prices on the platform components so I hope you realize what you're getting into ;)
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Lord XSiV
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Posted - 2005.08.15 00:54:00 -
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I got a bpc for this about to pop out, figured I might as well do something with the BPO while we are gatherg the materials to build it. Pleanty of freighters.. just mining our hearts out to get this thing built near our rares..
Anyone have any idea what the BPC should go for?
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.08.15 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lord XSiV
I got a bpc for this about to pop out, figured I might as well do something with the BPO while we are gatherg the materials to build it. Pleanty of freighters.. just mining our hearts out to get this thing built near our rares..
Anyone have any idea what the BPC should go for?
Whatever you can get for it :).
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Tar om
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Posted - 2005.08.15 12:53:00 -
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can you research the BPO for ME?
or is there some special condition that applies?
If you can, you could save some people massive isk....
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kabayn
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Posted - 2005.08.15 18:06:00 -
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As I say to people who ask why we are building this outpost. Everyone talks of how hard this game is but only see the game as gaining everything by themselves. If everyone worked together to accomplish a certain goal, the game would be easier in a sense cause your not doing everyhing alone. Trust is the #1 key and I believe our corporation with the joint efforts of our friends and allies will accomplish this endeavor. We must push on and make our time worth the wait and to show our time spent is not in vain.
Kab 
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Ghost Reaper
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Posted - 2005.08.16 18:30:00 -
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u are all concerned with building the thing, yes it will take a lot of time and effort, not to mention the isk involved. but havent u thought about the acctualy outpost? i heard it takes at least 4POS working around the clock to keep it running, which means ur going to have to supplie them also (so u could place it deep in 0.0) i dunno wat it cost to run a POS but the cost is going to be very high
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.08.16 19:32:00 -
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true the cost is going to be high, but having a refining station in a system full of rare ores is gonna kick ass 
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Kelgen Thann
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Posted - 2005.08.17 03:01:00 -
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Just thought I'd mention that you have to have sovernty over a system to set-up the Outpost,and individual corps will not be alowed to set one up. Only alliances have that option. And at the risk of stating the obvious you need an operating POS to maintain sovernty on a system. And your POS will be vulnerable to take-over if you lose sovernty over the system.
If a single corp is an alliance then they can set one up, however.
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SFX Bladerunner
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Posted - 2005.08.19 15:34:00 -
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Yes ofcourse we have thought about this, and we have already selected a perfect system for the outpost construction. It is near systems with valuable ores and there is also ice to mine (for the fuel of the POS's). But the most important thing is that the system only has a few moons so it doesn't require alot of POS's to have and maintain sovereignity over the system. We have already invested alot into setting up defences for the POS's so that they wont be taken down easily by any alliance/corp seeking to take our outpost over. We have not set up an alliance yet that will build the outpost but this is because we are not sure yet which corps will actually participate in building the outpost and maintaining the POS's for it. We do know that each corp will have to run one POS in our outpost system, so that shouldn't be too much problem to fuel. One corp should easily be able to run one POS.
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Dr Happy
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Posted - 2005.08.25 18:47:00 -
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I would love to join but I'm only in a small corp with bs's and hualers "-(
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.08.25 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Vishnej on 25/08/2005 22:06:03
Are you SURE you're safe in terms of territorial claims? If your outpost is already staked out by a major alliance, it's very likely (rather than just possible) that you'll have a few hundred ships and a few Dreads knocking at your door.
And "Near systems with valuable ores" should be "In a system with valuable ores."
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Tortuga Reborn
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:01:00 -
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My corp is looking to setup an outpost, or to join an allience doing jsut that, please contact me as we are willing to help, evemail tortuga Reborn.
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Effei Gloom
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Posted - 2005.08.28 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tortuga Reborn
My corp is looking to setup an outpost, or to join an allience doing jsut that, please contact me as we are willing to help, evemail tortuga Reborn.
will do
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xOm3gAx
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Posted - 2005.09.01 18:16:00 -
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well i dont think they will have any probs building it its keeping it that will be the trick cus anyone with half a brain will let someone else do the work and pay bill then take over if of course they are hostile the main reason being because the benifits of doing that are far greater stategicly then just popping it while its being built considering it allows for greater control etc.
gl guys and make sure u have lots of firepower ready just incase ;)
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Psionist
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Posted - 2005.09.01 19:46:00 -
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I'd like to offer my Services as well, should you need a large amount of freight shifted to your construction location.
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Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2005.09.07 19:31:00 -
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contact me in game if your still looking.
Instas??
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CelticKnight
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Posted - 2005.09.08 15:30:00 -
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yea. Im interested in joining a Mining/low sec alliance.
We're really big into mining, and basically want to be apart of a corp that isnt going to get us entangled in a war (we're peace lovers...). Im interested in helping you mine for your Outpost :)
Contact me in game
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.09.08 19:11:00 -
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outposts can't be build in low sec, only in a place without soverignty (e.g. unclaimed 0.0)
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Tsual
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Posted - 2005.09.10 14:26:00 -
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What is the current state of this project?
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Effei Gloom
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Posted - 2005.09.25 18:00:00 -
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For all that dont know: the mat. req are same for all outposts, only the station parts you need are different,
i recommend to build the platform you need at the npc station in empire where you can buy the [100] and [80] parts you need. but sure its only 1-2 more freighter runs anyways
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