Ganking is not being compared to slavery. The argument "I'm ganking you for your own good" is being compared to the argument "I'm enslaving these Negroes for their own goods". He's saying that in both situations the powerful impose 'good' on the weak.

Here's the other controversial quote:



Same deal. In no way is the gank victim being compared to a **** victim. What is being compared is the argument "He should have tanked more" to the argument "She shouldn't have dressed in that fashion". Again, the point is that the powerful party (rapist, ganker) is imposing their own ideas of propriety (tanking, covering all skin) on the weak party (gank victim, **** victim). He's not equating the seriousness of each crime.

you people still going on about some ******* comment? I hear worse every single day in this game.

I hear worse every single day in this game.

Probably not from potential CSM candidates though, am I right?

OK, I have no idea why Ripard hasn't stepped in to say this himself yet, but clearly somebody needs to because this is just getting tedious now.

Go back and read the post that started off this shitstorm. At no point in that post is there a comparison between the act of **** or enslavement and the act of suicide ganking or non-consensual wardecs (which you neglect to mention, in spite of that being the main focus of said post). The comparison is between people's attitudes to the victims of ganking and the victims of ****, with a tendency to jump to the conclusion that each victim invited attack with their actions, and a comparison between PvPers' attitude that EVE is at its core a PvP game and that undocking = PvP consent, with most of the dissent coming from industrialists who are their victims and the attitudes of 18th century slaveowners who believed that slavery was itself morally justified and the way the world was intended to work, with most of the dissent coming from the slaves who were their victims.

If you want to rake Ripard over the coals for making those comparisons between attitudes, that's a different matter entirely. Personally I think the provocative hyperbole served more to distract people from the questions he was trying to raise in the post than spread discussion, as the language used itself became the story and we end up with situations like this one where people either haven't read the post itself or missed everything apart from the bad words in their rush to point fingers and scream "He said what?!". On the other hand, I've read hundreds of thousands of other words by Ripard that weren't deliberately provocative to this extent, so I'm comfortable with the knowledge that that kind of hyperbole isn't his normal method of communication and presumably isn't how he'd approach interacting with CCP as a CSM.

ps This message will most likely increase the frequency that I am team-killed by my own fleet-mates.

Haha that's a really, really awful attempt to damage control and justify his horrific statements. Even with your reasoning - i.e. that attitudes rather than the acts themselves - it's absolutely unacceptable and offensive. To compare the attitude of someone who blows up a spaceship in a spaceship pew pew game to the attitude of wanting to enslave an entire race of people, or to brutalising women... it's just absolutely mental. It's ignorant and offensive.

As far as I can tell from the minutes, CSM almost exclusively talks to CCP about how the game is designed. How then can you avoid being a junior game designer and still fill your roll?

You seem very hostile and defensive when asked a simple question. Is this also behaviour you'll exhibit if elected?

I wanted to ask about something that doesn't get the time it deserves. The Drone Regions, or I suppose more precisely the half-finished state of Rogue Drones. My question is basicly how do you think they should be fixed, and do you think CCP is paying them enough attention?

RESIST THE THEME PARK RIPARD! Best of Luck.

Second, living in w-space these days is just horrific. Partially this is the POS issue, but honestly, that's only part of the issue. Security, pods, logistics, and having a market where you live are all factors. The POS revamp is only going to solve some of these issues. I've been watching the F&I threads on this pretty closely and I don't think anyone's come up with the magic bullet yet. My own thinking is leaning toward encouraging CCP to let w-space dwellers place outpost eggs in w-space as an interim step.

CCP is bringing to their development a whole new vocabulary. Words like lurkers, enablers, small gang leaders, etc are replacing words like carebear, pirate, nullseccer etc...

I would like you to expand a bit on your understanding of these words. In a old post in your blog you gave some insight of your understanding, but as this new vocabulary will be so important in the conversation with the Devs, specially Seagull and Unifex I think it deserves for further delving into.

Also I have the feeling that not only the CSM but some old school devs might have problem to start thinking in this new way.

Thank you in advance for your time if you decide to answer to my query.

Well just send a report warning to the owners of the site Ripard uses or talk to them about the offensive poster, they allow to use their services. If you really feel he is just being offensive and offers nothing else.

Sorry, why would I do that? I find it offensive and unnecessary, but thats not a reason to talk to his webhost or anything about it. He's free to be as offensive and stupid as he so desires, I'm just going to point out why it makes him a bad candidate and a bad person

I'm curious, though: assuming you live there, what do you think are the major issues with the drone regions?

It's the pissing on my head and calling is rain that I find offensive.

Wait... Who're you again? Does the New Order **** on your head?

Which is perfectly fine, but call a spade a ******* spade.

Why we gotta be racist?

Sorry, why would I do that? I find it offensive and unnecessary, but thats not a reason to talk to his webhost or anything about it. He's free to be as offensive and stupid as he so desires, I'm just going to point out why it makes him a bad candidate and a bad person

Ah, you want to go over the webhost's head and make the world more fair, in a faster way. I suppose that isn't bad really.

But it is kind of annoying, you coming to EVE's forums, and messing them up, just for a personal vendetta, when there are better routes out their to solve your problems.

Ripard made an argument against an entire group of players, except he was misinformed about who exactly these players even are and what they actually do and then used inflammatory comparisons to try and demonise them. That's simply a terrible way to approach any kind of issue, and not desirable for a CSM candidate.

So we're playing the I'm more relevant than you game now? If so I concede. If you were just intentionally misinterpreting an idiom to make a weak joke then I guess that's cool or whatever.

Did you actually read the blog post in question? Based on what you wrote here, I don't think you did, and I think you should.

It would be nice to see Ripard posting more, and people complaining about/defending Ripard less.

Ripard made an argument against an entire group of players, except he was misinformed about who exactly these players even are and what they actually do and then used inflammatory comparisons to try and demonise them. That's simply a terrible way to approach any kind of issue, and not desirable for a CSM candidate.