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Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:52:00 -
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Wouldn't make much difference to me. I have a low SP alt for all my pvp shenanigans, has negligible clone costs.
They should definitely cost something, to prevent free suicide jumping and to give some satisfaction to podding implantless clones. |

Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.18 23:23:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: In lowsec.
People pvping in a pvp friendly area? Inconceivable!
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Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.19 13:40:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Takseen wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: In lowsec.
People pvping in a pvp friendly area? Inconceivable! Tell me more about low sec bubbles, dictor bbles at gates, bombs etc. I'm curious now.
They appear to be an impediment to pvp activity? Judging by the kill stats on my Starmap atleast. |

Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.19 13:46:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:Lfod Shi wrote:Clones have nothing to do with my aversion to PvP. I've been held down and beaten up in real life. I have no wish to do the same for fun. Did you ever play counter strike? or any other games than EvE? :3 did you apply that to those games also? "No mister terrorist, I was beaten up in real life, so I wont shoot at you, I am just gonna stand here in a corner and paint tags on the wall"
I think the guy you quoted feels that all Eve pvp is inherently nonconsensual, or something. Like pirates ambushing miners or mission runners. Certainly I'd feel worse doing that then pewpewing wartargets or pirates who have clearly shot other people in the past. Likewise I get more stressed when attacked by a random person compared to a wartarget.
Tis all very interesting psychologically.
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Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.19 13:47:00 -
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Zaraz Zaraz wrote: You've been subscribing for a long time, you've been maintaining your skill queue for a long time. During that time you are supposed to have developed ways to produce income. That advantage is supposed to counter the increased costs of your clones. Suck it up.
After a certain point, extra SP just adds versatility, not income generation. And yet the clone costs instead of flattening out to match this, balloon enormously. See the chart posted earlier.
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Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.19 20:35:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:
That said: From where I sit, the difference in raw combat capability between, say, an 80m SP and an 120m SP is fairly negligible in most PvP - But what *isn't* negligible is the *time* spent between those two values. Time in which, presumbably, resources are accumulated, funding sources are exploited and developed, and so on. Economically speaking, I assert that there *is* a substantial difference between those levels or level differences of similar magnitude, such that the relative cost to the toon is approximately equal, whether or not you're implanted.
If anything the 80m SP guy is likely to have more wealth if he has a 40m SP alt. Or 2 20m SP alts, and so on. |
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