What do you mean by "real" AI?

They've already changed the AI for all NPC's be it belt rats or mission rats.

I mean the AI that CCP FoxFour told us CCP would make to replace the current failiure..
The one considering damage done to rats rather than silly things such as sig radius and use of ewar on other players.

Why does all the disadvantage have to be on the PVE'er?

Bears got angry I see..

Thanks for your oppinionated irrelevant input.

This is not a question about fair or unfair, it is a question about when the promised AI will see the light of day.

This is not a question of "fixing" the AI, this is a matter of applying the "real" AI for "normal" rats as CCP FoxFour stated in the post about this AI before it was applied.

If you so badly want NPC bodyguards, then head out to W-space, where there is no local, intelchannels, stations or jumpbridges to save you..
Then im fine with the rats helping their nemesis..

Blinking Local channel when new players enter or exit.

~20sec headstart from the neut jumps from the other system till grid is loaded while beeing in your local.
10sec scanning for anoms.
~20-30 sec Dscanning to locate the ratter.
~10-30sec warping to anom and >maby< landing within tackle range of the ratter.

Really.. Practically allways at least a full minute for the ratter to align out and gtfo from the time a neut enters local..

There is allso the option of *Gasp* actually tanking your ship properly instead of only going for max isk/tick..

Please explain to me how sitting in a significantly larger ship, with all your alliance mates in local and neigbouring systems is having "all the disadvantage" over a single frigate-class ship?

If you feel that it is a unfair gamemechanic that players can shoot eachother while playing with NPC's in 0.0 or low-sec, then either don't rat there, or feel free to add suggestions on the relevant subforum.

There really is no excuse for getting caught in an Anom or Plex besides stupidity or lack of attention.
Why do you feel either of these things should be rewarded with NPC bodyguards?

Edit: Should the reward for ratting in 0.0 and lowsec not be lower since the risk is significantly lower than it used to be before this AI? Risk = Reward is what I keep hearing from CCP, but now it is allmost risk free ratting yet the bounties remain?

Why did you post this on the forums if you weren't wanting feedback?

I asked for news on the promised AI, not your oppinion on game mechanics.

Rest of your rabble im not going to bother with, as it is really completely unrelated and I hope it is just a troll.

If not then: If you don't want the risk of PvP while doing your PvE, then stick to Highsec....

Risk of getting attacked while doing PvE in 0.0 is why you earn more ratting..

It is that simple..

For the ones who have no damn clue what im talking about..



https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2158421#post2158421

Now stick to this please, rather than crying your eyes out cause not everyone shares your white knight approach to pvp.

Fair enough, I'll take that advice.

And for you, if you don't want to risk PVE while your doing your PVP.

Look up the new dueling mechanics in the lineup, and go play against your corp mates and they're buddies.

And honestly, if thats CCP's stance, they should change it.

I'm tired of CCP listening to people just because they whine, regardless of balance and what makes sense.

CCP FoxFour is no longer on that team. The people in charge of the AI are the same ones doing the ship rebalancing. Guess which is the higher priority ...

I have heard nothing about this, but I know wich has higher priority for me..
But in all honesty, I don't care much..
I just wanna know if there is any estimated time for this AI, because im beginning to grow bored with the kind of PvP im forced to do atm.

So of course you must realize that the same logic applies to you right?

In any case, I'm sorry you are no longer able to kill ratters as easily as before.

I would add that the NPC's are the same as pvp'ers in that they see an easy target and the switch to it.

Lending a little comedy to it perhaps there is an NPC killboard where they tally up thier inconsequetial kills rated by what was the easiest kill rather than the most exspensive.

Off topic a little, as I have seen this come up a fair bit.

Like its been said by someone here, there should be a few more variables as to what the AI picks as targets, and standing should be one. If a player has +5 vs the NPC's and the mission runnuer has -5, that should also be a factor.

As far as the AI switching, if the attacked player stopped firing, and concentrated on the attacker, there should still be a chance for the NPC to target either ship. I'm not saying 50/50 but neither should it be 99/1.

Everyone keeps saying that everything in this game should have a risk/vs reward and every time you make a part of the game have a highly predictable outcome because you piled up a bunch of stats, it makes that a little weird.

Mission AI predictability is already stupid and too easy for runners, it's even more annoying if those numbers can be used to calculate chances of killing ships easier.

Would really be nice if more randomness was thrown into the whole NPC equation. Probably just me.

But I do agree with the OP that the NPC shouldn't just toss a coin and attack someone.

They do not take "ease" into consideration, and they are nothing like PvP'ers.

If they were anything like decent PvP'ers they would surely kill the 5b vindicator that has been slaughtering them for hours now that its tank is actually breaking, rather than going for the one ship that is actually turning the tide for them..
Easy or not..

Or they attack the ship that is leeching from them?

Sorry this form of PvP is slightly harder now. It needs to be fixed fast so you have no risk for your reward.

Normally my response to questions like this would be "when it's done"

But since this is EVE.... "when it can inflict the most amount of problems on other areas of the game"

[quote=zappp brannigann][quote=Singira]
Leeching...
Thats a fairly clueless statement..

This is not slightly harder, this is nigh impossible..
But funny how you consider it completely safe going 20+ jumps through hostile 0.0 space and attacking a ship many times your size with 20-100 of his allies in local, completely safe..

How about you actually try doing some PvP in any shape or form before making clueless statements about what is risk-free?

You are entitled to your oppinions, however clueless and risk averse they may be.
But I suggest you put your clueless rabble in a "QQ I want concorde in 0.0 while I rat plx" thread..
Just as I am entitled to find it amusing to hunt in this manner, welcome to the sandbox bro...

But yet again, this is not the topic..
I am just wondering when we will see this new AI..

You can have the "new AI" that will never attack you when they change PvE so that we can do it in PvP fit ships. I'm sure there will be crying over that as well.