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Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.02.18 19:13:00 -
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Tippia wrote:It's not meant to be fair.
Of course it is!
His problem, and that of many others, is that he sees some kind of competition going on between armor and shield tanker where there is none. These are two different technologies for different slots and anyone can use either of them or even both at the same time.
Shield tankers have the higher boost rate and they have the DPS modules working on their side. Armor tankers have e-war and propulsion mods working for them.
But many players have this misconception that tank'n'gank should be a tactic available to both types of tanks, not only to shield tanking, and to allow them to reduce their fitting choices down to a choice of colours - like girls in a dress shop deciding over which colour makes them look more sexy; is it the red dress or the black dress?! 
It is a childish. They either need to grow up or get out.
What they ignore is that there is more than tank'n'gank and that it has e-war. For example... projectile weapons consist mostly of a long fall-off and posses little optimal range. A single tracking disruptor will reduce the fall-off by 50% and thereby reduces the effective DPS by just as much. What takes an armor tanker here a single mid-slot in order to do requires two low-slots on the shield tanker to counter for it.
Minmatar shield tankers have figured this out a long time ago and so they always fit TEs next to gyros.
If everyone knew how to fit their ships right and how to fly them then we had no explosions in EVE.
It is fair. HTFU.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.02.18 20:31:00 -
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Joran Dravius wrote:Whitehound wrote:His problem, and that of many others, is that he sees some kind of competition going on between armor and shield tanker where there is none. I was under the impression that shooting at each other is a competition, yes.
That is idiotic. Technologies are not at war here. The players are.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.02.18 21:30:00 -
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Pinaculus wrote:I agree with you up to a point. Certainly the biggest difference between Shield and Armor tanking is the availability of mid-slots for propulsion, cap boosting, and E-War....until you look at most Amarr ships and how many mid slots they have. That said, your general point still stands. And seeing as this isn't a ship-balance thread I'll just leave you with a +1.
Take a Scorpion, fit its 4 low-slots with a DCU+LAAR+Resists and fill the 8 mid-slots with e-war. The one, brief moment you get lucky and get through all its jamming will the LAAR keep it alive more than ever. How will you fight this?!
To demand for the AAR to be as strong as the ASB makes e-war completely over-powered again.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.02.19 11:52:00 -
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Mr Ignitious wrote:
The fits are as follows:
[Astarte, AAR Sim 525 Tanked]
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[Sleipnir, Laci Green]
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Utter nonsense. This is one of the most idiotic comparisons I have seen lately.
The Slepnir is faster and has the range advantage - you even fitted it with a warp disruptor while you gave the Astarte a scrambler - and you seriously believe this makes the two comparable! The Astarte will not come anywhere near enough to use its web and scram or to apply any noticeable amount of damage to the Slepnir with only CN Antimatter. This is so much fail on several levels that I will not make an attempt to fix this.
Seriously, a gank Astarte is one of the dumbest fits I have seen. You then did not even care to get the CPU numbers right. You are only trolling.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.02.19 18:45:00 -
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Mr Ignitious wrote:I'm not trying to say "An astarte sucks, sleipnir will own it!" I'm trying to say that the new AAR is inferior to the ASB.
Yes, yes, we already know.
Do you know that this is a good thing?
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