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Madam Steele
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.13 03:14:00 -
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From: http://www.nag.co.za/2011/08/26/gamescom-2011-dust-514-preview/
"Dust 514 will feature two areas: High Security Space and No Security Space or Null-Sec. High Security Space is where most players will choose to start out. This is an area for matchmaking and grinding, as well as earning skills and money. Some people might choose never to leave this area at all. Null-Sec, however, is where the heart of EVE Online meets Dust 514. In Null-Sec the various player-formed corporations battle it out for control of the multitude of planets in the EVE universe."
I guess it all comes down to how much CCP is willing to sacrifice to accomodate the GSF. |
EVE Stig
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2011.10.13 03:34:00 -
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Anela Cistine wrote:EVE Stig wrote: Yes, listen and trust the Goon lol
I wouldn't trust me either, but what part of my advice was bad? We have our own newbies practice doing dangerous things like running camps in cheap frigates, it works. From what I've seen travel fit T3s with interdiction nullifiers and covops cloaks can roam nullsec pretty much at will, and are fine as long as all you want to do is look around. A tiny covops ship is a bit easier to lose, but also much cheaper and faster to train for. I'm goonswarm's current Director of Rifters, so if I'm giving bad advice I'd like to know about it.
Id have to say the part where you pretend you recruit from EVE cause you only recruit gank bait from EVE
Khira Kitamatsu wrote:CCP Zymurgist wrote:RMT, Real Money Trading, is very much against the EULA. If you suspect anyone of participating in these activities please file a petition and report them to the GMs with any details you have. Even if people are reported, CCP will not ban them.
Um yes, Id like to report all of Goons, I already know the answer.
"We dont have enough ppl"
Madam Steele wrote:
Won't this kill the premise of Dust 514 before it is even released?
We could only hope lol "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |
Kai Lae
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:39:00 -
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Sigh. New forums are worse than old forums. Just had my post ate, not going to write it again. TL/DR - 0.0 RMT is very dependent on which group you look at. Some don't do it, some do it all the time. It depends. |
knobber Jobbler
Holding Inc.
5
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:47:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:RMT, Real Money Trading, is very much against the EULA. If you suspect anyone of participating in these activities please file a petition and report them to the GMs with any details you have.
Didn't you guys ever figure out how the drf managed to pay for there war recently? Fleets of semi disposable supercaps didn't come from selling drone salvage.
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Kugutsumen Dot Com
La Blue Girl KUGUTSUMEN.
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Posted - 2011.10.13 06:50:00 -
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Minerals are super cheap in drone space due to all the drone alloys, so supercaps appearing out of nowhere isn't that surprising. Everything I've seen suggests that the various alliances in the Drone Region Federation do RMT.
I've seen some evidence of it in Pandemic Legion, but not on an alliance level. There was a bit of it in the various Northern Coalition alliances, but considering how many people they had, that's to be expected. I would be surprised if Brick Squad had enough ISK to RMT. Ev0ke doesn't have any RMT that I know of, but a chunk of their members were banned for being dupers.
As for the CFC (I don't think I can say their name, although I'm not sure I can say my name either) both Goonswarm Federation and TEST Alliance Please Ignore have their finances public. Any alliance level RMT would easily be seen. |
Via Shivon
Kriegsmarinewerft Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.10.13 08:18:00 -
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CCP cares about RMT and Bots? YES SHURE *loool* |
pussnheels
Vintage heavy industries
100
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Posted - 2011.10.13 09:00:00 -
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my opinion RMT is a problem but it isn't done on alliance level,if caught it would devastate any large alliance it is probably done on individual level and or with a few individuals in some dark shadowy 2or 3 man corporations , and pretty damn hard to prove ingame
tho it seems less now than a year ever since the isk spammers in the market hubs were cleaned out together with a harder policy against rmt s , i could be mistaken tho I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Naran Eto
Kut-n-Run
18
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Posted - 2011.10.13 09:56:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Remove local and the bots go away.
That's a 50/50 guess at best to be honest.
The way most of these bots work is by checking local and automatically warping and docking if someone appears in local who is not blue to them.
On the one hand you could say having no local leaves them open to being ganked.
But on the other hand you could say it helps them because they won't be having to deal with AFK cloakers and docking up all te time ruining their isk/hour.
It could swing either way. |
Kengutsi Akira
32
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Posted - 2011.10.13 12:04:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:my opinion RMT is a problem but it isn't done on alliance level,if caught it would devastate any large alliance it is probably done on individual level and or with a few individuals in some dark shadowy 2or 3 man corporations , and pretty damn hard to prove ingame
tho it seems less now than a year ever since the isk spammers in the market hubs were cleaned out together with a harder policy against rmt s , i could be mistaken tho
I have the odd feeling that if ccp went full bore into this it would devistate most of the 0.0 alliances which is why they wont. Suddenly destabilize most of 0.0? Given the success of DRF at stabilizing 0.0, I dont see this happening.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
110
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Posted - 2011.10.13 13:00:00 -
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Ban ALL 0.0 Coalitions |
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Kengutsi Akira
32
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Posted - 2011.10.13 13:20:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Ban ALL 0.0 Coalitions
hell, hire an auditing firm for looking over the 0.0 coalitions' books they already have an economist working on the in game economy, how it this idea unrealistic lol
though you do heave to point out at that... they hired a economist then didnt consult with him/her about the prices of NeX stuff OR the effect nondestructable items may have on the in game market lol |
Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
28
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Posted - 2011.10.13 13:24:00 -
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Deopheel Dalonne wrote:Gogurt wrote:RUSROG and Deopheel are liars No, Sorry, it is an honest question. I honestly do not know what RMT stands for and I am too lazy to go through all the forums to find out ... So what is it ?
You realize how just about anything can be "Googled" or "Binked" right.. I think if ya go to Urban Dictionary or even Wiki you could find the answer you seem to be seeking.
Yes I know it takes more time for me to tell you this than to just outright tell you, but what would you learn then.. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2011.10.13 13:39:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:RMT, Real Money Trading, is very much against the EULA. If you suspect anyone of participating in these activities please file a petition and report them to the GMs with any details you have.
No need to be Harvard graduate or whatever to see how many char's/ships/accounts/items are sold in the single E-bay, not even talking about all sites Eve related where you're spammed with ships to sell, isk, accounts etc etc.
Also: bots sell, dozens of sites, blogs or forums giving enough information about those and don't seem to be bothered.
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Barakkus
809
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Posted - 2011.10.13 13:52:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:my opinion RMT is a problem but it isn't done on alliance level,if caught it would devastate any large alliance it is probably done on individual level and or with a few individuals in some dark shadowy 2or 3 man corporations , and pretty damn hard to prove ingame
tho it seems less now than a year ever since the isk spammers in the market hubs were cleaned out together with a harder policy against rmt s , i could be mistaken tho
Actually it is, unfortunately it's hard to prove. |
Shadowsword
The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:45:00 -
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Naran Eto wrote:That's a 50/50 guess at best to be honest.
The way most of these bots work is by checking local and automatically warping and docking if someone appears in local who is not blue to them.
On the one hand you could say having no local leaves them open to being ganked.
But on the other hand you could say it helps them because they won't be having to deal with AFK cloakers and docking up all te time ruining their isk/hour.
It could swing either way.
I suspect the bots would quickly adapt and use the directionnal scanner every 2 seconds. Might not be very goood for server performance. But then again, it might push CCP to more efforts in fighting RMT... |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
47
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Posted - 2011.10.13 17:32:00 -
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Naran Eto wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Remove local and the bots go away.
That's a 50/50 guess at best to be honest. The way most of these bots work is by checking local and automatically warping and docking if someone appears in local who is not blue to them. On the one hand you could say having no local leaves them open to being ganked. But on the other hand you could say it helps them because they won't be having to deal with AFK cloakers and docking up all te time ruining their isk/hour. It could swing either way.
You may well be correct, but you gave me an idea.
There is much accusation about which way CCP swings over the bot issue. Some say CCP don't care, others say CCP is in on it - or has staff that's in on it. Baseless? True? False? Who knows.
But imagine that there was a huge AFK Cloaking movement making bots safe up or dock up all over the universe, and then suddenly all those calls to remove local are heeded? People have been asking for the removal of local for years, and every time it comes up, 0.0 players swarm in claiming how removing local in 0.0 will kill the game, cause fire to rain from the sky, and German SS soldiers riding dinosaurs will shoot lasers at us in the streets.
Would it be safe to say that these are botters if not simply "nullbears"? Again I don't know.
A bot depends on the auto-dock/ss process much more than a simple nullbear. The latter can work safely behind their alliance bubble camps. But too many AFK cloakers (or not AFK) could change things.
But that too could be 50/50 - we would not see the removal of local on behest of the RMT people, because they need local to survive thanks to wormholes.
We might end up seeing the end of cloaks, or AFK cloaking, before that, and if CCP swings towards obedience to the political power of the botters, I would hate to find out that way.
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2339
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Posted - 2011.10.13 17:34:00 -
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What the hell is a "null bear" and why do you people (yes, I said it, "you people," deal with it) insist on using derivations of that phrase as stupid pejoratives rather than directly discussing whatever problems you have? |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2339
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Posted - 2011.10.13 17:37:00 -
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EVE Stig wrote:Anela Cistine wrote:EVE Stig wrote: Yes, listen and trust the Goon lol
I wouldn't trust me either, but what part of my advice was bad? We have our own newbies practice doing dangerous things like running camps in cheap frigates, it works. From what I've seen travel fit T3s with interdiction nullifiers and covops cloaks can roam nullsec pretty much at will, and are fine as long as all you want to do is look around. A tiny covops ship is a bit easier to lose, but also much cheaper and faster to train for. I'm goonswarm's current Director of Rifters, so if I'm giving bad advice I'd like to know about it. Id have to say the part where you pretend you recruit from EVE cause you only recruit gank bait from EVE.
It is possible that I missed it but where in Anela Cistine's post did she mention recruiting? |
Muse of Minmatar
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.10.13 17:43:00 -
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I have a serious question:
Who the hell is selling so many PLEX?
I mean, I know of many people who play "for free" buying PLEX every month. But I doubt there are so many others who pay cash for ingame isk, yet te PLEX prices don't skyrocket.
Everyone and his dog can make billions per month (or most claim to), then, why PLEX doesn't cost 1b or more? |
Kumq uat
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
18
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Posted - 2011.10.13 17:45:00 -
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Mostly the DRF sections. Their uppance will *** soon though with the changes to Supers. |
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Apon Ire
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:02:00 -
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Most of the alts are made by Lyris Nairn.
My reasoning? Someone who obviously loves reading his own posts and spends his days on the forums. |
Kumq uat
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
18
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Posted - 2011.10.13 18:02:00 -
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Mostly the DRF sections. Their uppance will come soon though with the changes to Supers. |
Kengutsi Akira
34
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Posted - 2011.10.13 20:11:00 -
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Kumq uat wrote:Mostly the DRF sections. Their uppance will come soon though with the changes to Supers.
Their comeuppance will come when CCP stops looking the other way for them
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2360
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Posted - 2011.10.13 20:38:00 -
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Apon Ire wrote:Most of the alts are made by Lyris Nairn.
My reasoning? Someone who obviously loves reading his own posts and spends his days on the forums. It's true, I love my posts so much that I subscribe dozens of accounts just so that I can give myself the "like". |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
47
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Posted - 2011.10.13 21:04:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:What the hell is a "null bear" and why do you people (yes, I said it, "you people," deal with it) insist on using derivations of that phrase as stupid pejoratives rather than directly discussing whatever problems you have?
Your question is loaded both ways. I won't bother with it.
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Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2011.10.13 21:22:00 -
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I am a Lyris Nairn alt. |
Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
616
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Posted - 2011.10.13 21:23:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:What the hell is a "null bear" and why do you people (yes, I said it, "you people," deal with it) insist on using derivations of that phrase as stupid pejoratives rather than directly discussing whatever problems you have? Your question is loaded both ways. I won't bother with it.
good call for someone with the brain the size of a peanut, ducking out of a discussion |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
380
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Posted - 2011.10.13 21:24:00 -
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If you buy ISK from a third party site, you need to ask yourself where it comes from. They can't just print it. And they need lots of it.
It comes from the game. Botters and the 0.0 alliances that use them. The days of a back room full of gold farming people are long gone. Now they simply make connections with highly placed gamers for gold purchasing.
Third party ISK sellers are just the middlemen for a thriving business that helps sites like SA pay their bills and Alliance heads pay off their RL mortgages.
On top of that, you have CCP setting a bad example by selling ISK in the form of tradable GTCs.
Bit of a strange situation.
Mr Epeen If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2378
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Posted - 2011.10.13 22:54:00 -
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Skunk Gracklaw wrote:I am a Lyris Nairn alt. Confirming this; also, liking it because I love the auto-circle-jerk of responding to and liking my own posts. |
Gogurt
57
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Posted - 2011.10.13 23:25:00 -
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