Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine

Originally by: Edison Frisk

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So does that mean you will be camping A2 and those corps that are friendly with BoB forces and allowed to operate within their borders will be shot by your forces trying to reach Delve and Period Basis?

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Originally by: PhasmaNL

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Entities that have been set to blue by FIX have already been notified and contacted.

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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"We're gonna camp 0.1 space so if we get you, don't cry"



Shooting neutrals is so wide spread nowadays that I don't think anyone can flame you for that decision.

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Originally by: Darkrydar

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GL guys

On a side note, I remember when CA had this policy and we were labeled pirates. Part of me misses those days.

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Originally by: Sochin

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CA was really ahead of it's time when it came to shooting neutrals. With the invention of this clever acronym NBSI its suddenly the fashionable thing to do.

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Originally by: Rath Amon

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you just love anouncements

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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib

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i have feared this day for awhile, but i hold my values aboe alot more. IF FIX is going to start pirating then they will be set -10 to celes, and will continue to be so when we once again become a active corporation. The shooting of nuetrals in someone none claimed space is piracy, and as we a corporation that has held a anti pirate standard see this post as such.

Otherwise, in my own words, all i can say is WOW!!!!.

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Originally by: Rodney Munch

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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib

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i have feared this day for awhile, but i hold my values aboe alot more. IF FIX is going to start pirating then they will be set -10 to celes, and will continue to be so when we once again become a active corporation. The shooting of nuetrals in someone none claimed space is piracy, and as we a corporation that has held a anti pirate standard see this post as such.

Otherwise, in my own words, all i can say is WOW!!!!.

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I'm sure they're quaking at the thought of the mighty Celest setting them to -10.

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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib

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Originally by: Rodney Munch

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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib

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i have feared this day for awhile, but i hold my values aboe alot more. IF FIX is going to start pirating then they will be set -10 to celes, and will continue to be so when we once again become a active corporation. The shooting of nuetrals in someone none claimed space is piracy, and as we a corporation that has held a anti pirate standard see this post as such.

Otherwise, in my own words, all i can say is WOW!!!!.

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I'm sure they're quaking at the thought of the mighty Celest setting them to -10.

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im sure they are because there whole alliance isnt a bunch of pvpers.

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Originally by: Rodney Munch

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You'd be surprised how many FIX members actually pvp, but hey if you wanna suicide yourself, Im sure FIX will welcome it.

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Originally by: Rath Amon

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Originally by: Rodney Munch

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You'd be surprised how many FIX members actually pvp, but hey if you wanna suicide yourself, Im sure FIX will welcome it.

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well if the going gets tough, they could always say, "we respect you guys too much, lets nap"
like the hardcore gamers 'bob'

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Originally by: Tadis

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Edited by: Tadis on 30/07/2005 10:35:10
Clear instructions have been given that no Fix pilots under any circumstances are to conduct pirate activities. This will be upheld throughout Fix. Pilots are to use their own judgement as to whether the target offers a threat, and act accordingly. So we still do not condone pirate's as before, and will thus not act like them.

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Originally by: Rath Amon

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Originally by: Rodney Munch

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You'd be surprised how many FIX members actually pvp, but hey if you wanna suicide yourself, Im sure FIX will welcome it.

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well if the going gets tough, they could always say, "we respect you guys too much, lets nap"
like the hardcore gamers 'bob'

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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib

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im sure they are because there whole alliance isnt a bunch of pvpers.

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Originally by: Blacklight

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I'm sure one day you'll make an impression on something other than your sofa.

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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib

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i have feared this day for awhile, but i hold my values aboe alot more. IF FIX is going to start pirating then they will be set -10 to celes, and will continue to be so when we once again become a active corporation. The shooting of nuetrals in someone none claimed space is piracy, and as we a corporation that has held a anti pirate standard see this post as such.

Otherwise, in my own words, all i can say is WOW!!!!.

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Originally by: CrusherDK

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Oh and btw, if FIX pilot will fly into space of alliance that is neutral to him, he will also open fire on alliance pilots that for example camping gate or something?

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Originally by: Milkminer

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about the new policy then do the same :)

A hauler isnt a threat, a shuttle isnt a threat (unless its a scout, then burn )

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Originally by: CrusherDK

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Then i would assume that if you see any combat fitted ship you will open fire? Just wanna clear this up.

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Originally by: CrusherDK

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Originally by: Milkminer

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about the new policy then do the same :)

A hauler isnt a threat, a shuttle isnt a threat (unless its a scout, then burn )

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Then i would assume that if you see any combat fitted ship you will open fire? Just wanna clear this up.

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Originally by: Razor Jaxx

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And I don't see the point of ALL current neutrals contacting you to set positive standings, you'd end up with more entities on positive standings than you used to have on negative, thus voiding the whole reason for the change of policy.

I'm pointing this out for the sake of argument, really, so don't bother answering with "get in touch with the appropriate contacts to set standings blablabla". Just curious, really.

Yarrr.

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Originally by: PhasmaNL

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If you wish to secure positive standings to FIX you must contact us ahead of time and explain why such a standing should be afforded to you, honest and sincere requests will be viewed in a positive light.

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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib

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<whining>

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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib

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i have feared this day for awhile, but i hold my values aboe alot more. IF FIX is going to start pirating then they will be set -10 to celes, and will continue to be so when we once again become a active corporation. The shooting of nuetrals in someone none claimed space is piracy, and as we a corporation that has held a anti pirate standard see this post as such.

Otherwise, in my own words, all i can say is WOW!!!!.

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Originally by: Sochin

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CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.

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Originally by: Tadis

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Edited by: Tadis on 30/07/2005 10:35:10
Clear instructions have been given that no Fix pilots under any circumstances are to conduct pirate activities. This will be upheld throughout Fix. Pilots are to use their own judgement as to whether the target offers a threat, and act accordingly. So we still do not condone pirate's as before, and will thus not act like them.

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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti

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Originally by: Tadis

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Edited by: Tadis on 30/07/2005 10:35:10
Clear instructions have been given that no Fix pilots under any circumstances are to conduct pirate activities. This will be upheld throughout Fix. Pilots are to use their own judgement as to whether the target offers a threat, and act accordingly. So we still do not condone pirate's as before, and will thus not act like them.

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That does not sound like a true Not Blue Shoot It policy to me.

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Originally by: Milkminer

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A hauler isnt a threat, a shuttle isnt a threat (unless its a scout, then burn )

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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Meh, guess the whole valiant "anti pirate" alliance thing is just not effective in current times. Good luck and kill everything

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Originally by: Eris Discordia

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We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.

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Originally by: Lilan Kahn

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who the heck care's its there space there rulles if you dont like them blow them up or stay out k thx

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Originally by: Eris Discordia

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We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.

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Quote:

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FIX information :

NAP's with Imperium and G have been cancelled.

Thankyou.

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Originally by: Acwron

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Quote:

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FIX information :

NAP's with Imperium and G have been cancelled.

Thankyou.

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This is like why? Considering that G doesn't even shot neutrals.

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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib

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i have feared this day for awhile, but i hold my values aboe alot more. IF FIX is going to start pirating then they will be set -10 to celes, and will continue to be so when we once again become a active corporation. The shooting of nuetrals in someone none claimed space is piracy, and as we a corporation that has held a anti pirate standard see this post as such.

Otherwise, in my own words, all i can say is WOW!!!!.

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Originally by: Jorev

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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti

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Originally by: Tadis

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Edited by: Tadis on 30/07/2005 10:35:10
Clear instructions have been given that no Fix pilots under any circumstances are to conduct pirate activities. This will be upheld throughout Fix. Pilots are to use their own judgement as to whether the target offers a threat, and act accordingly. So we still do not condone pirate's as before, and will thus not act like them.

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That does not sound like a true Not Blue Shoot It policy to me.

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Looks like misappropriation of trademark to me, call the lawyers.

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Wait wait, after months of boldly attacking the heart of curse (i.e. camping keb gate in hed with 30 equally bold imp members) Celes still cling onto the "We're anti pirate" tag?

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Originally by: Marcus Grisbius

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So in the event that you run across a neutral fleet in 0.0 somewhere outside of FIX space, you've just now warned them that you will be hostile towards them. Thus they'll respond by shooting you when you are in local and they justify you naming them as hostiles. However, this particular fleet would not have shot you otherwise.

It's fine to work this policy in alliance claimed space where you're only trying to control your area, but to open it up across the galaxy is borderline piracy. I know you say you're going to make judgment calls on whether it's a threat or not, but that's not going to keep lazy pilots from deciding they don't want to bother to check out the situation. You'll start ganking NPC bships and other ships travelling through other regions even though that may not be your intent.

For the part that neutrals need to contact you to set standings, people who aren't in your space and don't expect to see you in their space arent going to know they need to contact you for positive standings. I know BoB has popularized this type of engagement policy, but they've never made any claims to be non-pirate or to be peaceful. If you want more hostiles to shoot at because you're bored, this works, but you will come across as pirates to most people in any claimed space.

I know that there are many others that would shoot at you first either way and you are wanting to protect your pilots, but wouldn't it be simpler to say that your pilots would be the ones to avoid contact with the neutrals rather than take the arrogant approach and say that no one else is good outside of FIX and friends.

Just a few thoughts, and I'm sure they won't really affect your decision. Merely some feedback from a now potential target for you guys.

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Edited by: Nez Perces on 30/07/2005 12:44:27
... you will find dear fedaykin that this policy is effectively authorising FIX to engage neutrals percieved as a threat, this does not necessarily equate to piracy (though you may wish to call it this if it makes you happy ).

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Originally by: Shariona

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The new Fix policy is not right.
Me and some other older members of Celest fought to keep the fix space open almost 1,5 years ago.
We gave our ships and lives to keep it open for all neutrals.

Now the fix policy made them the same as all others.

In fact , 15 minutes ago fix pilots openend fire on myself in p3en.

If we, that is Celest, dont get a respons from any of the fix leaders within 24 hour we eill set the fix alliance to -10 and will open fire on them in 0.0

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Originally by: Jonkai

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Shooting Neutrals in your claimed zone is not piracy as you are defending your area of space.

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Originally by: Gungankllr

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Originally by: Shariona

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The new Fix policy is not right.
Me and some other older members of Celest fought to keep the fix space open almost 1,5 years ago.
We gave our ships and lives to keep it open for all neutrals.

Now the fix policy made them the same as all others.

In fact , 15 minutes ago fix pilots openend fire on myself in p3en.

If we, that is Celest, dont get a respons from any of the fix leaders within 24 hour we eill set the fix alliance to -10 and will open fire on them in 0.0

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So you fought to keep the space open a year and a half ago, then quit FIX, and moved on. Now you're upset because FIX have adopted new rules of engagement.

To be blunt: The "Let's keep our space open for all the happy neutrals" doesn't work, there are too many folks running around in our space trying to gank, snooping around POS and generally getting up in our business.

We are in the region of space around P3EN you speak of because the folks that live in that area have been attacking our industrial folks over the last few weeks.

As the very first poster stated, if you don't want to get shot at, contact someone from FIX to get standings adjusted. I think we have been pretty clear on that.

I'm pretty sure that sending an Evemail to Nez Perces or Wraithstorm or any one of the diplpomats that says:

(You can cut and paste this if you like)

"Please set standings to XXXXXXX Corporation to positive, we will do the same. "

Not trying to be a smartass, but it just seems like a pretty easy thing to do to me.

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Originally by: Shariona

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If this is the official answer from Fix then we wil declare the Fix alliance Kos in 24 hours.

For the last time i ask some of the REAL fix leaders to contact us within 24 hrs.

Thank you

The open for everyone policy meade the fix different and i think better then all other alliances.

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Originally by: Dezzereth

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Originally by: Shariona

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If this is the official answer from Fix then we wil declare the Fix alliance Kos in 24 hours.

For the last time i ask some of the REAL fix leaders to contact us within 24 hrs.

Thank you

The open for everyone policy meade the fix different and i think better then all other alliances.

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Don't be bi***y, Shar. The man gave you a way to contact FIX in a civilized manner, so use that possibility. Threatening with KOS, Wars, Podding, or whatever won't do anything to resolve the matter yout mentioned in your post.

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Originally by: Blacklight

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rofl @ Celes. Like anyone gives two hoots what you guys think anyway.

The holier than thou white knight facade is a bit of a joke these days to be honest.

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Originally by: Blacklight

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rofl @ Celes. Like anyone gives two hoots what you guys think anyway.

The holier than thou white knight facade is a bit of a joke these days to be honest.

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Originally by: Jonkai

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Shooting Neutrals in your claimed zone is not piracy as you are defending your area of space.

Shooting Neutrals in other parts of space... is classed as piracy, so cut the rollocks :)

Just remember people it is a game :)

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Originally by: Blacklight

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rofl @ Celes. Like anyone gives two hoots what you guys think anyway.

The holier than thou white knight facade is a bit of a joke these days to be honest.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Jonkai

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Shooting Neutrals in your claimed zone is not piracy as you are defending your area of space.

Shooting Neutrals in other parts of space... is classed as piracy, so cut the rollocks :)

Just remember people it is a game :)

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Jonkai, it's not piracy - it's retribution, it's interdiction, it's combat.

If you're in 0.0 and not at +ve, you're not innocent. As Gungan kindly pointed out, members from the north have been attacking FIX.

FIX are attacking back.

Would you rather they used a rifter as an excuse?

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Originally by: Jonkai

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Jonkai

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Shooting Neutrals in your claimed zone is not piracy as you are defending your area of space.

Shooting Neutrals in other parts of space... is classed as piracy, so cut the rollocks :)

Just remember people it is a game :)

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Jonkai, it's not piracy - it's retribution, it's interdiction, it's combat.

If you're in 0.0 and not at +ve, you're not innocent. As Gungan kindly pointed out, members from the north have been attacking FIX.

FIX are attacking back.

Would you rather they used a rifter as an excuse?

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I can't remember a CELES pilot attacking a FIX ship in the North or South, so I would call it pirating.

Shooting people that have shot them, well they are defending their own pilots.

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Quote:

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If you wish to secure positive standings to FIX you must contact us ahead of time and explain why such a standing should be afforded to you, honest and sincere requests will be viewed in a positive light.

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Quote:

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Any diplomatic situations that may occurr should be directed to FIX Diplomatic Core in-game or via the General Diplomatic Request section on FIX forums. Complaints or incidents reported on the Eve-online forums without prior contact via appropriate means will be viewed in a negative light and generally disregarded as forum trolling.

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Originally by: Tiwaz

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Originally by: Blacklight

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rofl @ Celes. Like anyone gives two hoots what you guys think anyway.

The holier than thou white knight facade is a bit of a joke these days to be honest.

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When you make a statement on the forums, we dont give a crap.

Why on earth do you think you have the right to comment on our playstyle?. If we state offence about FIX engagement rules, then so be it.

But behbas its only bob and their friends that can have a say on these boards?.

tiwaz

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Originally by: PhasmaNL

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Any diplomatic situations that may occurr should be directed to FIX Diplomatic Core in-game or via the General Diplomatic Request section on FIX forums. Complaints or incidents reported on the Eve-online forums without prior contact via appropriate means will be viewed in a negative light and generally disregarded as forum trolling.

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Originally by: Shariona

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The new Fix policy is not right.
Me and some other older members of Celest fought to keep the fix space open almost 1,5 years ago.
We gave our ships and lives to keep it open for all neutrals.

Now the fix policy made them the same as all others.

In fact , 15 minutes ago fix pilots openend fire on myself in p3en.

If we, that is Celest, dont get a respons from any of the fix leaders within 24 hour we eill set the fix alliance to -10 and will open fire on them in 0.0

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Originally by: Wraithstorm

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Edited by: Wraithstorm on 31/07/2005 12:46:35

Im going to make this very clear. If you feel that you should have positive standings with FIX, if you feel that for some reason you should NOT be fired upon by FIX forces anywhere you have 2 options.

1- Get out of our way when you see us



2- Contact a Joint Chief of Staff ingame and have a lil sitdown. If there isnt one available then visit our forums, and make a lil posty, so we can get back to you as soon as possible. As stated by the original poster, coming onto the forums and flaming our methods, or demanding we contact you isnt shedding you in the best possible light, furthermore do not think for one minute that threats of war, or putting us on KOS status is going to have us shaking in our beds.


This is not in any way an invitation of hostiities towards anyone, but I think we've all been playing this game for more then a day, and I think we know FIX is above the threats. People read the original post, and if you think you've read it then read it again

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Any diplomatic situations that may occurr should be directed to FIX Diplomatic Core in-game or via the General Diplomatic Request section on FIX forums. Complaints or incidents reported on the Eve-online forums without prior contact via appropriate means will be viewed in a negative light and generally disregarded as forum trolling.

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Extracted from the original post.

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Originally by: Shariona

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Celst will set fix to -10 and start attacking within 24 hrs, all pirates even when they are old friends should pay the price

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Shariona

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Celst will set fix to -10 and start attacking within 24 hrs, all pirates even when they are old friends should pay the price

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rofl, yay for diplomacy, I see you guys thought long and hard about this, must have been a very very difficult decision to come to Just for the record FIX has yet to talk to Celestial Apocalypse in-game or on our forums about this matter.

This has been eve-online forum diplomacy at its most titillating.

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Originally by: Jonkai

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Originally by: Blacklight

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rofl @ Celes. Like anyone gives two hoots what you guys think anyway.

The holier than thou white knight facade is a bit of a joke these days to be honest.

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It is nice to be different and have different standards than most, unlike you and your sheep :)

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Originally by: Wraithstorm

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Celst will set fix to -10 and start attacking within 24 hrs, all pirates even when they are old friends should pay the price

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Wow lol. Such diplomacy. Well then, why play the game if i can handle it all right from this very forum?!

So be it, FIX is advised of this standings change, and will act accordingly.

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Jonkai

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Originally by: Blacklight

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rofl @ Celes. Like anyone gives two hoots what you guys think anyway.

The holier than thou white knight facade is a bit of a joke these days to be honest.

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It is nice to be different and have different standards than most, unlike you and your sheep :)

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celes arent different.. every choke point has it's gate campers..

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Originally by: Hast

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this reminds me about the old SE happenings.

I'm just glad I'm in a corp that can shoot the biggest joke in eve.

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Originally by: Ugluuk

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celes are a bunch of wannabe big boys with balls the size of marbles..

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Originally by: Tiwaz

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Originally by: Hast

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this reminds me about the old SE happenings.

I'm just glad I'm in a corp that can shoot the biggest joke in eve.

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l33t shinra ftw

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Originally by: Hast

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Originally by: Tiwaz

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Originally by: Hast

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this reminds me about the old SE happenings.

I'm just glad I'm in a corp that can shoot the biggest joke in eve.

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l33t shinra ftw

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yup, I'm kinda leet.

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Originally by: Ugluuk

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celes are a bunch of wannabe big boys with balls the size of marbles..

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Originally by: Jonkai

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You will soon be removed from the Vale of the Silent area. If you bring more troops down your homelands and empire based pilots will be attacked.

Don't leave your women and children at home.

YARR.

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Originally by: Shariona

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Celest and Fix have worked it out.

We still dont like the Fix new policy but thats there decision.

Our policy is still when we have reports of any corp or alliance shooting neutrals outside claimed space we will see into it and when it is true, take action.

So Fix and Celest are no longer Kos.

Any incidents between fix and celes pilotes will be solved in a diplomatic matter.

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Originally by: Hast

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Originally by: Tiwaz

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Originally by: Hast

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this reminds me about the old SE happenings.

I'm just glad I'm in a corp that can shoot the biggest joke in eve.

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l33t shinra ftw

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yup, I'm kinda leet.

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Originally by: Jonkai

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Edited by: Jonkai on 31/07/2005 17:32:06
Use your main, no balls type person.

I would also suggest getting a tech ii dictionary from Yulai... going cheap at the mo since the gate changes.

Edit: Tech ii EVE dictionary before I receive all the hate

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Originally by: Balistic Void

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FIX pilots shot me down in D7! A blatant act of piracy! I remand compensation!!!!one

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Originally by: thoth foc

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celes arent different.. every choke point has it's gate campers..

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Originally by: Jonkai

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I don't get it. You've also been shooting neutral indies, neutral indies that have nothing to do with the problems you have been suffering from in the region.

Pirates, fullstop :)

WTB: People to gang with

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Originally by: Renox

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Originally by: thoth foc

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celes arent different.. every choke point has it's gate campers..

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thoth, try going past one of our camps in 0.0 with an alt in a neutral corp(preferedly not npc corp) and in an indy. I think you would find that he would survive the trip even if not using insta jumps. Unless you have actually tried that or can otherwise prove that we shoot neutrals and not just reds, please don't comment on it...

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Originally by: heyjoe52

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Cartiff should really charge people for using that term. Its our trademark BEING IN THE NBSI ALLIANCE. Also i was there when he spouted it off the first times on the XF forums, and in alliance chat.

But go for it. No one NBSI's like we do :P

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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti

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All this uproar is ridiculous in my opinion, shooting neutrals in 0.0 is the only way to go in current climate of Eve.

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Originally by: SpaceDrake Storyteller

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Here's where I'm confused, and where I think some of this "OMGPIERAT" stuff is coming from.

You say the NBSI is EVE-wide. Does that mean that if I'm, say, tooling about somewhere in lowsec Aridia or Derelik or somewhere (somewhere sort of near Querious, but still far away enough for it to not matter too much for FIX operations, presumably) and I see a FIX pilot, that I should expect to be attacked simply because I haven't asked/begged FIX not to shoot me? That does sound kind of like, well, piracy to me.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti

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All this uproar is ridiculous in my opinion, shooting neutrals in 0.0 is the only way to go in current climate of Eve.

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Shooting everyone in 0,0 is better

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti

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All this uproar is ridiculous in my opinion, shooting neutrals in 0.0 is the only way to go in current climate of Eve.

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Shooting everyone in 0,0 is better

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Having no friends ingame besides corpm8's and being so unpopular that you can't post anywhere without being flamed 4tw!!1

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Originally by: Grimster

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I only see a pirate issue if people are holding ships/pods to ransom (which only oldskool pirate hardcore really do these days).

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Originally by: Renox

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Originally by: thoth foc

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celes arent different.. every choke point has it's gate campers..

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thoth, try going past one of our camps in 0.0 with an alt in a neutral corp(preferedly not npc corp) and in an indy. I think you would find that he would survive the trip even if not using insta jumps. Unless you have actually tried that or can otherwise prove that we shoot neutrals and not just reds, please don't comment on it...

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Originally by: darth solo

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Ill never shoot a neutral in 0.0 space(outwith a mistake or a bug).

d solo.

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Originally by: heyjoe52

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Cartiff should really charge people for using that term. Its our trademark BEING IN THE NBSI ALLIANCE. Also i was there when he spouted it off the first times on the XF forums, and in alliance chat.

But go for it. No one NBSI's like we do :P

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Originally by: Sochin

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CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.

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Originally by: DrunkenOne

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Not blue shoot it has been around for quite a while...

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: Renox

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Originally by: thoth foc

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celes arent different.. every choke point has it's gate campers..

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thoth, try going past one of our camps in 0.0 with an alt in a neutral corp(preferedly not npc corp) and in an indy. I think you would find that he would survive the trip even if not using insta jumps. Unless you have actually tried that or can otherwise prove that we shoot neutrals and not just reds, please don't comment on it...

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every group of gate campers picks their targets.. you just choose to label ur targets ebil piw8's.. it's not like "neutral indies" are exactly common, or that ur allies wont shoot them.. so ur "higher moral ground" arguement isnt particularly valid..

FIX arent adopting any different policy from ur own allies.. some how i doubt u'll start shooting the rest of the HED gate huggers

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Originally by: Renox

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but weren't you saying that we weren't any different and shoot neutrals like everyone else? That simply isn't true. We don't shoot neutrals and the neutral indy was just an extreme example. As far as our allies... well, guess you are right, they do

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Originally by: Siri Danae

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To FIX representatives:

Is this, as has been said, a 0.0 policy, or are you going to start gatecamping the low-sec constellations north of Querious?

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Originally by: Krugerrand

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Originally by: Siri Danae

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To FIX representatives:

Is this, as has been said, a 0.0 policy, or are you going to start gatecamping the low-sec constellations north of Querious?

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Before posting read the thread.

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Originally by: Siri Danae

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To FIX representatives:

Is this, as has been said, a 0.0 policy, or are you going to start gatecamping the low-sec constellations north of Querious?

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Siri Danae

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To FIX representatives:

Is this, as has been said, a 0.0 policy, or are you going to start gatecamping the low-sec constellations north of Querious?

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Ofc we are, I mean or else what would the point of the policy be. I mean reasons, like practicality, reducing the administration overhead, easing of military operations in foriegn environments are really just a cover for the real reason

Additionally FIX pilots have been issued with wooden legs and plastic parrots. I personally have started eating babies as a mid-afternoon snack.

The eating babies stuff is great, I thoroughly recommend it.

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FIX pilots have been issued with wooden legs and plastic parrots.

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Originally by: xenorx

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uhhhh Nez, how come I didnt get a plastic parrot like the rest? The one I got just makes a hell of a lot of noise,craps down my back and is chewing holes in my chair!

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: xenorx

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uhhhh Nez, how come I didnt get a plastic parrot like the rest? The one I got just makes a hell of a lot of noise,craps down my back and is chewing holes in my chair!

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Sorry buddy, we ran out of plastic ones, defense spending cuts.., fill out form P472 for a standard issue 'bottle o' rum' to make up for it.

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Originally by: Will Basthard

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Not that I care... but its Piracy plain and simple. The moment you decide politics is just more paperwork... you're warmongering. The fact you will believe a member pilot over a victim... you stand by *you're own* and thus... nothing and noone else matters.

"Take what I can, give nothing back"

Simple paperwork says ye', I sense a pirate alliance in the making said I... Yar! Yes this is nothing more than Curse Alliance 2005. GL being hated by most of eve.

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Originally by: Will Basthard

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Not that I care... but its Piracy plain and simple. The moment you decide politics is just more paperwork... you're warmongering. The fact you will believe a member pilot over a victim... you stand by *you're own* and thus... nothing and noone else matters.

"Take what I can, give nothing back"

Simple paperwork says ye', I sense a pirate alliance in the making said I... Yar! Yes this is nothing more than Curse Alliance 2005. GL being hated by most of eve.

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piÀrate (pī'rĭt)
n.

One who robs or plunders the land from the sea without commission from a sovereign nation.
One who preys on others; a plunderer.

v., -ratÀed, -ratÀing, -rates.

v.tr.
To attack and rob
To take (something) by piracy.

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Originally by: heavyg

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Originally by: Will Basthard

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Not that I care... but its Piracy plain and simple. The moment you decide politics is just more paperwork... you're warmongering. The fact you will believe a member pilot over a victim... you stand by *you're own* and thus... nothing and noone else matters.

"Take what I can, give nothing back"

Simple paperwork says ye', I sense a pirate alliance in the making said I... Yar! Yes this is nothing more than Curse Alliance 2005. GL being hated by most of eve.

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Im glad someone with a grasp of FIX has so much to say on the matter. There is a fine line of hijacking a territory and claiming it. There is a definition difference between sovereign land AND land under military occupation.



OK for the not so well informed.....
1) If you come to fix space and you are not blue you will be shot.
2) If you are on our current target list (this is clearly defined internally) you will be shot in 0.0
3) If you are at war with FIX you il be shot.
3) If you act in such a way to look shifty (eg sitting scouting a FIX combat fleet) you will be shot.
4) YOU WILL NOT BE AGRESSED SIMPLY GOING ABOUT YOU BUISNESS IN EMPIRE.

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piÀrate (pī'rĭt)
n.

One who robs or plunders the land from the sea without commission from a sovereign nation.
One who preys on others; a plunderer.

v., -ratÀed, -ratÀing, -rates.

v.tr.
To attack and rob
To take (something) by piracy.

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I hope this clears it up.

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4) YOU WILL NOT BE AGRESSED SIMPLY GOING ABOUT YOU BUISNESS IN EMPIRE.

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Originally by: Will Basthard

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Don't make assumptions m8. I know more about F.I.X. *sniplified*

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Originally by: Leilani Solaris

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Originally by: Will Basthard

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Just because we have enforced a NBSI rule does not make us pirates. i believe its because of the simple fact that FIX was bored and had no targets and the pvp side was getting restless.
NPC'ing for 3 weeks was boring, mkay?

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Yeah well why do you think pirates blow other people up? its becuse there bored and had no targets for there pvp. Make no mistake your exactly like pirates ;o
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Originally by: Trina Tron

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Originally by: Leilani Solaris

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Originally by: Will Basthard

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Just because we have enforced a NBSI rule does not make us pirates. i believe its because of the simple fact that FIX was bored and had no targets and the pvp side was getting restless.
NPC'ing for 3 weeks was boring, mkay?

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Yeah well why do you think pirates blow other people up? its becuse there bored and had no targets for there pvp. Make no mistake your exactly like pirates ;o

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don't miss quote me... i didn't say any of that... cut and past error says me... plz repair says I.

Originally by: Carvas

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/Incoming transmission
/Translation database online
/Translation complete....
/To: Traders, Miners, Haulers, Explorers
/From: FIX
/Please be advised we're going to shoot you if we see you.
/Do not worry about your cargo
/We'll take care of it
/P.S. This is not piracy its housekeeping.
/P.P.S BTW we mean everywhere, not just our territory.
/P.P.P.S. We're doing this to make the universe a safer place btw...
/Transmission Ends.


/Warning, hostile craft detected, Signature identified as FIX "Housekeeper" class cruiser.

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Originally by: heavyg

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OMG we pwnd 2000 noobs tonight
We Killed 60000 haulers
14 Dreadnaughts and 26 Freighters

All from random corps who we have never heard of.

OMG the Random theories are wothy of Mulder and Scully

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Originally by: Tadis

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P.S we have intercepted many haulers carrying items for war to our enemies stations, anyone undocking/attempting to dock at a hostile station will obviously be treated as such.

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Originally by: heavyg

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3) If you act in such a way to look shifty (eg sitting scouting a FIX combat fleet) you will be shot.

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