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Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
194
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:38:00 -
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dark heartt wrote:Max Doobie wrote:
So how am I supposed to get PvP experience? Any suggestions? RvB is not an option as I was with them for 2 days and hated it. It's just clusterf**king, it's not organized worth a damn and you don't learn anything. If you're a noob you're just free kills for the vets in RvB.
I remember you from before I was in RvB. I directed you several times to the NoobFleet and corp chat to learn, but all I got was rage in return. In any case, you could join a corp like the one I just joined that only has a 2m sp skill cap. You are probably looking in the wrong areas. Try these corp ads: Thread 1Thread 2Or even put your own advert up in the recruitment forums to show that you are actively searching for a corp. Its actually not that hard. Max Doobie wrote:Who reads the launcher crap outside of patch notes? You should. Its a great way to get involved in the community and that's what Eve is all about. Cannibal Kane wrote:When I first started playing SP was always an issue.
But all the corps i joined waved the SP requirement if you can show or prove that PVP is where your ability in the game lie.
Most of the really good PVP guys in the game is good not because of SP but because it is something they did from the start and just has a knack for. If you have that then any corp will take you regardless of the amount of SP you got. This may be another thing that you might want to work on. Show you want to do it and they will work with you in most cases. I got out to null as a 2m sp newbie in a corp that had a 10m sp requirement, because I showed I was capable of supporting myself.
I have never had a conversation with you. Ever. If you feel the need to defend RvB, that's fine, but do not make up stories to do so. |
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
194
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:41:00 -
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Krazynikomo wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:OP, maybe you should try a null-sec alliance like TEST. He tried that, and got kicked out, for being too autistic for TEST. Too autistic, for TEST. Just, let that sink in for a while. Oh well, he'll be fine, at least in real life. He is, after all, an owner-operator.
The fact that you Muff-Munchers still feel the need to follow me around the forums shows who the Douchebags are in this equation. Ive been out of Test for weeks.
I also like the way you make fun of someone for being employed...self-employed at that.
Who does that?
Should I be ashamed that I actually contribute to society instead of sitting around living off of unemployment eating hotpockets and playing space rangers all day?
Seriously how do you laugh at someone for having a career? |
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
194
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:48:00 -
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General Nusense wrote:getting kicked from TEST is probably the best thing that could have happened to you. Who would want to be in an alliance that cant do anything without PL FCs or some other null sec alliance holding their hand.
Let alone the fact that I TOLD Boodato boot me.
One of his lil *******-lickers even came to the forums and posted the mail showing it.
Why these idiots think it bothered me and that they're actually trolling me I have no idea.
Seriously, your CEO is some other CEOs bytch...how do you even have the gaul to ****post on forums??? |
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
194
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:52:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Max Doobie wrote:
Corps asking for ridiculous amounts of SP and PvP experience...
So how am I supposed to get PvP experience? Any suggestions? RvB is not an option as I was with them for 2 days and hated it. It's just clusterf**king, it's not organized worth a damn and you don't learn anything. If you're a noob you're just free kills for the vets in RvB.
I've learned my lesson about SIZE given my experience with Test, so I really no longer take that into consideration when looking for a corp. Just trying to get what I need so I can join a decent corp that actually does **** and I can actually start to enjoy the game instead of playing skill-queue like I have been for the last 4 months or so.
Will be awhile before I can get the f**king 30 Mill SP many of the decent alliances want, but I guess some will overlook that if you have some decent kills, pas the blood test, all of your references check out and your credit score is above 600.
F'kin tired of this s**t.
You actually wasted bandwidth to cry about corps asking for experience to join their ranks?!?!? Really?!??!!? Wow. Fail better, dude.
Where in the post did I complain about corps wanting experience?'
Are you ****king remedial? |
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
194
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:54:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Join Sniggwaffe
(not you, doobie, you'd make god's handiman look good by comparison - but it's what I'd recommend to anyone else who is asking himself a similar question;
all they ask for is that you can fly a ceptor and bomber and even that requirement is not rigidly enforced; after 6-12 months in waffles you'll have seen quite a bit of pvp and even if you don't end up joining pl you'll not have wasted your time)
PL doesn't fight, they just hoard isk for RMTing. |
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
198
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:12:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Agony have a PvP training academy. They are fantastic.
I've seen large groups of bitter vets in shinies get owned by a group of Agony n00bs in T1 frigs.
^ This and afterwards get yourself into a corp that has a good KB ratio with small to medium gang roams, You'll learn alot more than blobbing it up in some large alliance. There are plenty of great small to medium PvP corps in high &low sec not just in null. good luck.
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Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
194
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:20:00 -
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Xpaulusx wrote:Arduemont wrote:Agony have a PvP training academy. They are fantastic.
I've seen large groups of bitter vets in shinies get owned by a group of Agony n00bs in T1 frigs. ^ This and afterwards get yourself into a corp that has a good KB ratio with small to medium gang roams, You'll learn alot more than blobbing it up in some large alliance. There are plenty of great small to medium PvP corps in high &low sec not just in null. good luck.
I had forgotten about them. Thanks for the heads up.
However from what I can recall, I think they do classes and do not have a dedicated corporation for training, yes? |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
265
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:40:00 -
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- PVP training corps - there are some
- Get into lowsec and solo in frigates and cruisers, yes you will die more than you kill in the beginning. Failing and not making the same mistake twice is called 'learning'.
- Join a new(er) player friendly pirate corp (The Devil's Tattoo alliance comes to mind)
- There are many hissec corps that dabble in PVP/lowsec as well and do regular roams.
- research, research, research. Here is a good place to start: http://www.evealtruist.com/p/article-index.html |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
265
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:43:00 -
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How I did it: decided I wanted to get into PVP, so looked for a small corp of highseccers who wre looking into PVP.. We ended up bluing up with some surly german pirates who lived in a quiet lowsec pocket. Spent the next 8 months gatecamping like a noob and hiding from shadow cartel when they steamrolled through.. Learned a lot, and racked up a somewhat OK 8:1 k/d ratio. When they fell apart, I applied to shadow as I met their (at the time) requirements |
Clara Stewart
Stewart Collections
20
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:29:00 -
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Hixeppa wrote:He won't be able to join Brave Newbies, that's a TEST recruitment corp.
You're full of crap Hix |
Sidrat Flush
The Praxis Initiative
Gentlemen's Agreement
126
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Posted - 2013.02.28 02:27:00 -
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From the tone of your original post and your subsequent comments I doubt it's your lack of pvp experience that's holding you back but your hostile attitude.
I hope you use the material that has been linked you might want to try ssking civil questions to the victor if you are able to learn to listen.
I hope your a better boss thsn an Eve player as so far in two pages your attitude is very poor.
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http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/Sidrat/
Read about it http://eveindustrialorganiser.blogspot.co.uk/?m=0 |
Hannah Flex
laissez-faire economics
228
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Posted - 2013.02.28 02:30:00 -
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You should try a newbie friendly alliance like goons or test
I would do something about your posting first though  |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
Petition Blizzard
2898
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Posted - 2013.02.28 03:04:00 -
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I was recruited based solely on my enthusiasm for doing bad things.
Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:31:00 -
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Hannah Flex wrote:You should try a newbie friendly alliance like goons or test I would do something about your posting first though
Not joining anyone that censors people on forums sorry.
I'm not anyone's drones. I will come to forums and speak my mind and it's apparent that CFC/HBC doesn't like that, and I refuse to bow down and change just to be another zombie. |
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:35:00 -
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Sidrat Flush wrote:From the tone of your original post and your subsequent comments I doubt it's your lack of pvp experience that's holding you back but your hostile attitude.
I hope you use the material that has been linked you might want to try ssking civil questions to the victor if you are able to learn to listen.
I hope your a better boss than an Eve player as so far in two pages your attitude is very poor.
I don't give a f**k what you think about my attitude. You can f**k off for all care.
Sick and goddamned tired of you vets saying a noob has a "bad attitude"simply because he won't kiss your ass.
Don't like my posting don't come to my goddamned thread. Simple.
I see you vets flaming and insulting people left and right on these forums and you never say anything to each other, but as soon as a noob has a "bad attitude", you become "Mr. Morality". F**k out of here dude. I was made this way by how I was treated by vets. I was the nice guy, but I got sick and tired of being pushed around and insulted just so some bittervet could chest thump and boost his ego at my expense.
So now I'm just cutthroat. F**k it. |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
198
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:39:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:Sidrat Flush wrote:From the tone of your original post and your subsequent comments I doubt it's your lack of pvp experience that's holding you back but your hostile attitude.
I hope you use the material that has been linked you might want to try ssking civil questions to the victor if you are able to learn to listen.
I hope your a better boss than an Eve player as so far in two pages your attitude is very poor.
I don't give a **** what you think about my attitude. You can **** off for all care. Sick and goddamned tired of you vets saying a noob has a "bad attitude"simply because he won't kiss your ass. Don't like my posting don't come to my goddamned thread. Simple. I see you vets flaming and insulting people left and right on these forums and you never say anything to each other, but as soon as a noob has a "bad attitude", you become "Mr. Morality". **** out of here dude. I was made this way by how I was treated by vets. I was the nice guy, but I got sick and tired of being pushed around and insulted just so some bittervet could chest thump and boost his ego at my expense. So now I'm just cutthroat. **** it. As you vets say anyway, its You Vs. EVE right? So that's how I look at it. **** everybody.
its only game, why you heff to be mad
Not today spaghetti. |
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:45:00 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote:Max Doobie wrote:Sidrat Flush wrote:From the tone of your original post and your subsequent comments I doubt it's your lack of pvp experience that's holding you back but your hostile attitude.
I hope you use the material that has been linked you might want to try ssking civil questions to the victor if you are able to learn to listen.
I hope your a better boss than an Eve player as so far in two pages your attitude is very poor.
I don't give a **** what you think about my attitude. You can **** off for all care. Sick and goddamned tired of you vets saying a noob has a "bad attitude"simply because he won't kiss your ass. Don't like my posting don't come to my goddamned thread. Simple. I see you vets flaming and insulting people left and right on these forums and you never say anything to each other, but as soon as a noob has a "bad attitude", you become "Mr. Morality". **** out of here dude. I was made this way by how I was treated by vets. I was the nice guy, but I got sick and tired of being pushed around and insulted just so some bittervet could chest thump and boost his ego at my expense. So now I'm just cutthroat. **** it. As you vets say anyway, its You Vs. EVE right? So that's how I look at it. **** everybody. its only game, why you heff to be mad
Not angry at all. I'm just tired of the Ol' Boys Club BS in this game where vets get to say w/e they want but noobs had better be on ther best behavior. **** that.
**** this bs game as well. I'm pretty much just holding out for SIMCity and Rome 2 TW. Game that take skill and are fun and you don't have to deal with politics and egotistical vets who think a game is a job.
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Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
110
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:48:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:Not angry at all. I'm just tired of the Ol' Boys Club BS in this game where vets get to say w/e they want but noobs had better be on ther best behavior. **** that.
**** this bs game as well. I'm pretty much just holding out for SIMCity and Rome 2 TW. Game that take skill and are fun and you don't have to deal with politics and egotistical vets who think a game is a job.
Can one acquire your personal belongings, as you're in no doubt not in need of them any further.
Blessed are those that carry the Empress' Light; with it they destroy the shadows |
Skeln Thargensen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:50:00 -
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You don't actually need to be in an alliance. you don't even need to be in a player corp.
One of the teams in the New Eden Open was a bunch of vets from one of the starter schools. a lot of people feel that way about eve politics and just form their own communities whereever they find them instead.
I take back my previous statements and judgements of others. -áyou can mine in iteron if you want. |
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:51:00 -
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Arline Kley wrote:Max Doobie wrote:Not angry at all. I'm just tired of the Ol' Boys Club BS in this game where vets get to say w/e they want but noobs had better be on ther best behavior. **** that.
**** this bs game as well. I'm pretty much just holding out for SIMCity and Rome 2 TW. Game that take skill and are fun and you don't have to deal with politics and egotistical vets who think a game is a job.
Can one acquire your personal belongings, as you're in no doubt not in need of them any further.
I'm a Libertarian.
I don't give handouts now gtf away from me. |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
199
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:51:00 -
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As I stated in one of your other posts:
Its not other people its you.
I can tell you that with 100% certainty having never met or talked to you and only having read a few of your posts.
I will not go into why it is not other people its you because it would be a complete waste of my time.
Not today spaghetti. |
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:53:00 -
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Skeln Thargensen wrote:You don't actually need to be in an alliance. you don't even need to be in a player corp.
One of the teams in the New Eden Open was a bunch of vets from one of the starter schools. a lot of people feel that way about eve politics and just form their own communities whereever they find them instead.
ty for the advice, but Im just going to go elsewhere.
I deal with enough BS with running a business, I play video games to escape BS.
anti-social tendencies mixed with anonymity is simply a bad mix for someone of my limited patience.
unsubbing from thread |
Zimmy Zeta
RvB - RED Federation
9157
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:06:00 -
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Krazynikomo wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:OP, maybe you should try a null-sec alliance like TEST. He tried that, and got kicked out, for being too autistic for TEST. Too autistic, for TEST. Just, let that sink in for a while.
I let it sink in for a while.
That is..admirable...masterful...genius.
"Kicked from TEST: ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED"
Please don't feed me. |
monkfish2345
D'reg
The Methodical Alliance
18
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:11:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:
I was with them for 2 days and hated it. It's just clusterf**king, it's not organized worth a damn and you don't learn anything.
this is pretty much what you will find with fleets whereever you go. strangley you eventually learn to do as your told and be as organsied as you can be.
beyond that study the game and the mechanics that make pvp what it is.
and start smaller. there are plenty of less well established corps that will take on newer players, they often have high SP players amongst them you can learn from.
finally, don;t expect to be flying for someone like PL NC. or whoever else considers themselves 'elite' it takes time to build a Kilboard and a rep that will get you in with those people, then when you get there you'll find out it wasn't worth the hassle. |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
499
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:51:00 -
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Maybe this will help, maybe not.
My experience to get to where I am today, a video maker, a fairly well known PvPer, and leader of an alliance that is fairly "scary" as such.
1. Started off in 0.0, playing as mainly a Taranis pilot. I learned a lot by joining big fleets and listening to how FC's played the game and what the "linguo" was.
2. I saw my gangs get smashed to pieces by competant pvpers, in much smaller gangs, and learnt from my mistakes losing more and more taranis.
3. I contacted those people, and asked how they did it, and what am i missing etc, i then actively hunted them myself, solo, and killed their solo pvpers or tacklers.
4. I joined up with them and listened to their FCs
5. I got bored of not doing it myself, by this time i could fly hyperion, so I started flying it, making PvP videos etc.
6. People recognised who i was, I made a corp and pirated til my hearts content.
7. Found logistics started busting up big alliances gatecamps (note this is a circle)
8. Started FCing BS/Logi fleets and enjoyed the rush
9. Found capitals, started dropping them, lost capitals to bigger alliances
10. Got more capitals and BS', started killing capitals
^ one big viscious circle of EVE, yet by far the most interesting, fun and yet infuriating game i've ever played :)
-Buhhd |
Cannibal Kane
The African Terrorist
1468
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:13:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:Skeln Thargensen wrote:You don't actually need to be in an alliance. you don't even need to be in a player corp.
One of the teams in the New Eden Open was a bunch of vets from one of the starter schools. a lot of people feel that way about eve politics and just form their own communities whereever they find them instead. ty for the advice, but Im just going to go elsewhere. I deal with enough BS with running a business, I play video games to escape BS. anti-social tendencies mixed with anonymity is simply a bad mix for someone of my limited patience. unsubbing from thread
Another thing that seems to be a paradox. The best PVP'ers I have met in this game is also the calmest, collected, and never seem to get angry and have a world of patience.
I never get angry no matter how much people goat me. You need to relax and think about what you want to do and do it. Don't wait for somebody else to do it for you.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
336
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:15:00 -
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I have no idea what could have been the issue with your PVP skills.
DirectX 11, it's not rocket appliance! |
Cebraio
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
254
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:26:00 -
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Callic Veratar wrote:I have no idea what could have been the issue with your PVP skills.
You really don't? |
Rico Minali
The Straw Men
Dark Therapy
1243
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:03:00 -
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Look for better corps and stop trying to shortlist the corps YOU want to join. There are many MANY good corps out there who take low sp, inexperienced people.
Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2279
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:27:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:
Not joining anyone that censors people on forums sorry.
I'm not anyone's drones. I will come to forums and speak my mind and it's apparent that CFC/HBC everyone doesn't like that, and I refuse to bow down and change just to be another zombie. should biomass.
FYP,slightly. |
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